I'm an operations lead deicer here at DTW, and let me tell you, deicing in freezing rain poses the biggest complications. During that kind of precip, were no longer spraying to remove contaminants; we are spraying to heat up the metal of the aircraft to a temperature that will break the bond between the surface and the ice that's forming. It's really a race against the clock, and you can dump a huge amount of fluid on a single aircraft. Not only are we racing against the freezing rain, were also working in tandem with all the trucks spraying the other sections of the plane. One truck may be quicker then another, so you have to keep spraying before you're anti icing step can start. All trucks need to be ready to go to that second step at the same time, and the flight crew need to configure for the final fluid application with the quickness. Some points I wanted to add to this video. Not as a pilot, but as a seasoned deicer at a cold weather airport: There are 1 step procedures, which is type 1 only, and a 2 step procedure, which is type 1 and then usually an anti icing fluid like type 4. Depending on the weather, that 2nd step can be type 1 as well; type 1 is heated, and because it warms the metal, it does provide a small hold over time. So a 2 step procedure that uses type 1 for both steps. Theres also a staggered 2 step procedure, which is the predominant method we use. We deice the wings...then have the flight crew configure for anti ice, then we anti ice the wings...then we move to the tail section and switch back to deicing, and finish up with anti icing the tail control surfaces. Staggered deicing is quicker and more efficient then just deicing the whole aircraft first..then driving back around and getting into position for anti ice. Part of training to be a deicer, we learn our roll in the 5 step process. The deicing process consists of the de/anti icing..and then the post application checks. Which can be either a tactile or a visual check. Hard wing aircraft like CRJ200's require a tactile, whereas a 700 does not. Pre take off checks and pre take off contamination checks are performed by the flight crew both before and after their hold over time has expired. This is a point deicers need to know because if a plane comes back for a respray, it may not be because of missed contaminants. Type 1 fluid's chemical properties are what makes it work so well for deicing. It lowers the freezing point of water, causing it to melt. Type 4 fluid on the other hand, has physical properties that make it work the way it does. On a molecular level the polymers that make up type 4 are like long noodles, that settle into a net like structure on the surface of a wing. That net creates a physical barrier over the wing that prevent ice from forming on the wing. Because of how its designed, that net wont move unless acted upon, usually by the rate air travels over it at take off speeds. The fluid will shear off the back taking any contaminants with it. Deicing an aircraft isnt just putting fluid onto the plane. We have to deice a certain way; front to back, leading edge to trailing edge, top to bottom, wing tip to wing root, inboard and out board, as well as symmetrical. Anti icing applications will always start at that particular airlines representative surface. Usually the captains wing tip. This surface represents the oldest fluid on the plane, and pilots will observe that surface throughout their taxi to ensure the fluid hasnt failed. These are just a few points I thought about while watching this video. Great job putting things into perspective from a pilots point of view! You did forget to tell your viewers that you take selfies with the deicers when they are by the nose deicing, but I'll let it slide :)
@flybyairplane35285 жыл бұрын
Marcus Malone thanks for your service, quite ‘unknown’ by too many, but the FOOKER, 100,,,200 HAD WET WINGS, so as they landed, became SPONGES in high RH AREAS, driving was of much importance, as a few welt down after take off due to this problem., NO LONGER MADE. Cheers from NJ
@bk85415 жыл бұрын
whose responsibility is the determination of percentage of liquids (100, 75/25 etc)?
@yvad5415 жыл бұрын
@@bk8541 The mix is determined by the freeze point you want to set. The higher amount of water in the mixture the higher the freeze point. In the old truck, I use to deice in, we would have to set the freeze point the day before. The newer trucks can set the freeze point on demand and adjusts to the outside air temperature. So in short the de-icing crew is responsible to make sure the fluid is set to the correct freeze point.
@biffnarzilla46494 жыл бұрын
Great addendum to Petter's video! Thanks.
@johnmullins93794 жыл бұрын
I'm a de-icer at O'Hare Intl. Airport. Type 1 we heat between 185 to 200 F. and we use Type 4 not Type 2. I'm guessing the different for Type 2 would be for passenger planes.
@zucalignacio6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Captain. I am an rusty PPL (64 years old) but I am filling flying again watching your videos. And learning more and more....love your channel.
@michaelwatson1136 жыл бұрын
I live in Canada, where deicing is regular from perhaps as early as September through to March or April or even later each year. So, I admire the deicing Crews, and the way they get the job done so quickly and efficiently and safely..
@Julia-nl3gq2 жыл бұрын
Same. I live in Saskatoon. I always watch the de-icers, I find it fascinating.
@ztoob88986 жыл бұрын
Love your videos in general, Mentour, but two highlights: 1. Your opening greeting always brightens my day. Very nice. 2. Your various pets are so fun to watch. 3. Excellent audio quality. Wait, that's three highlights. I can't count. Better take a course from Brilliant!
@MentourPilot6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Great, that makes me really happy to hear!
@TheSprtrooper4 жыл бұрын
Me too, today I laughed when I noticed the devil's trident in the background.
@Julia-nl3gq2 жыл бұрын
I do love the parts with the dogs! I just saw one where Patchy was kind of getting stuck there inbetween the couch cushions, it was hilarious.
@f3xpmartian6 жыл бұрын
few years ago I was a De-Icer at Kilm. Gosh what a blast. A diesel power super-soaker. We had modern "enclosed buckets", then the older "open buckets", funny most of us preferred the open buckets over the enclosed. Watching your video, thought I was back in class again, please keep up the great vid's.
@Pashwintime6 жыл бұрын
Flew out of Ukraine in winter last year and saw all of these things done. Great to hear it from the pilot's perspective.
@titanlizzard6 жыл бұрын
Mycket intressant och givande genomgång av avisningens procedurer och olika aspekter. Tack!!
@cellogirl11rw556 жыл бұрын
I never realized how complex this procedure was. Thanks for sharing!
@petruzzovichi6 жыл бұрын
Dear Captain,I find your videos wonderful making me wish I was young enough to begin Pilot Training. This is too late for me but I still thoroughly enjoy your videos. You are a professional whether flying or video taping and editing.Thank you from North Idaho, USA
@ichigouzumaki3245 жыл бұрын
How nice, my flight in Dec 2019 had to be de-iced because it was snowing. It was the type 2 de-icing and the pilot kept us inform on what was going on out there. Since I was on a window seat with the view of the left wing I watched the de-icing crew do their thing. Thank you for all the hard work you do to make these videos, they're very informative.
@stevenlarratt36386 жыл бұрын
Captain joe and mentour pilot colaboration... hit 👍to show our love!!!
@aristotle19936 жыл бұрын
I fully support this dream collaboration; just one video is enough for a start! What do y'all think?
@tabaks6 жыл бұрын
Nice idea but it seems you're whipping the dead horse.
@worldtravel1016 жыл бұрын
👍
@annnonymous97916 жыл бұрын
Petter is more than man enough to stand alone. Alpha male. Drop it...
@stevenlarratt36386 жыл бұрын
@@annnonymous9791 glad you know an alpha when you see one 👍
@larseriksvendsen74126 жыл бұрын
Thank's for great videos. Just love the feeling of takeoff in winter with 70% thurst. You get a great feeling of the power in those engines!
@devonmoors6 жыл бұрын
Excellent informative video.I’m flying out of Sweden and although I have seen the deicing process many times I can’t ever recall seeing different colours! Regarding the MD 80 crash at Gottröra SAS fitted a thin wire just above wing surfaces to facilitate checking for ice.
@martinmatola6886 жыл бұрын
GOLDBAND45rpm Thats possible. The non-colored fluids are harder to work with because you have hard time confirming correct application because the fluid is light straw color. The colored are better, you can "spray until it's green"
@OAleathaO6 жыл бұрын
I have to say this guy has such a great voice and very calming way of explaining any topic he covers in his videos. I wish I had someone like him when I was training for my private pilot's certificate (aka _Private Pilot's License_ outside the States.)
@flybyairplane35285 жыл бұрын
Aleatha Vogel back in the day,,my ATP license was a British issued one as I had lived in aCrown Colony, but was scratched by a medical, so changed my profession., cheers from NJ USA
@StanWatt.6 жыл бұрын
Love the videos. I'm sure they are a comfort to people who are nervous flyers.
@MentourPilot6 жыл бұрын
I hope so.
@adamkowalczyk34746 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an absolutely fantastic video Mentour!!!
@ShamirMuhammad6 жыл бұрын
Always learning something to new from you. So matter of fact yet so captivatingly interesting. Keep it up! Happy to continue supporting you even though I'm never gonna get into the aviation industry...
@craigrockwell13 жыл бұрын
As usual amigo, you hit the nail on the head. Excellent delivery of information concerning De-Icing. This is a big deal and one that is rarely accounted for and incorporated into our departure flight times. Your clear and concise description of the deicing process, especially from the flight deck perspective, will hopefully get shared with the holiday travelers this year. It would be nice if more winter travelers understood the de-icing process, and its effects. Ice build-up on control surfaces is one of the top causes of private plot "GA" general aviation crashes. It is due to a lack of planning, which is so obvious to armchair pilots, yea right. These deadly crashes are the subsequent result of a lot of little errors that set the stage for a big failure. Being able to accurately assess the weather, with all contingencies planned upfront, and not to exceed your standards and personal minimums is the go, no go, talk with yourself. Do not let being behind schedule, overconfidence, and ignorance determine your fate as a passenger or crew. Those who live in colder climates, that frequently get hit with blizzards, freezing rain, and ice, have no excuse to get pissed at anyone other than who is staring back at you in the mirror. The airport professionals will do their best, but for the most part, these 5 conditions or steps of action are not negotiable, especially when life is at stake. A good mantra is: Fail to plan, is a plan to fail.
@chrome32726 жыл бұрын
Great video! I work in the aviation industry and love finding out about many of the different aspects of the business. Thank you for creating this very interesting and informative channel.
@MentourPilot6 жыл бұрын
You are more than welcome! See you inside the app!
@usernamehere16 жыл бұрын
As a de-icer. You know your stuff.
@MentourPilot6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kirilmihaylov19346 жыл бұрын
This guy knows everything about flying...he is on of the best....
@MqKosmos5 жыл бұрын
@@kirilmihaylov1934 Chris?
@octaviahollywood6354 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@Airbus320lover Жыл бұрын
Hi! I've watched some past episodes and today about deicing, etc. Spot on!!!!!!!! What an incredible video it is. Yes, I've done deicing before on Embraer Legacys and Embraer Lineage. I truly enjoyed this type of information and cold weather ops. Yes, I agree it is such a time-consuming process for the passengers, but safety comes first. I always say,"If I'm safe, everyone else is." Dearest public passengers, I urge you all to understand the science behind icing conditions and aviation. NASA has a lovely short course anyone can do. Wishing ya'll a wonderful evening. Best wishes Cordell Hadeed
@angeldelapena44006 жыл бұрын
Wow, every week you upload an even more interesting video. Gracias !
@Longfordmuse3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are truly fascinating. Show your videos to passengers on the IFE.
@ralfoide6 жыл бұрын
Lots of content and it was interesting from start to finish. Thanks for the video!
@vaqarkhan83066 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. Very clear about the whole process of de-icing now!
@johnclarke10456 жыл бұрын
Interesting and nicely detailed. Just enough for an ATPL student...nicely delivered information. Cheers
@Aleksandar6ix5 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing on this video! I just finished studying this material in my CPL online groundschool, and your video helped instill the practical experience into it. Very nice!
@iPelaaja15 жыл бұрын
Very good video. I have a DIL20 licence but never actually de-iced a plane yet
@morbidlyobese29446 жыл бұрын
Class as always petter 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@froggybangbang2 жыл бұрын
Really liked this. Puts into perspective our coming back to canada from london about 10 years ago. We were put in queue in toronto for de-icing, which was about 1h30 because litterally every olane leaving needed it, and as we were going to the taciway our pilot said like "every single airport around Quebec City had closed due ti the ice storm and so if Qc closed while we were in the air we wouldn't have any place to land, sucks to be you, good night" and brought us back to wait 15 hours at the airport for the new departure. Did get pics of the de-icing, but didn't see any colour on it.
@turboprop77746 жыл бұрын
Excellent Explanation and Procedures on Airline Deicing, Cheers !
@Nilguiri6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Petter. That cleared up some doubts that I've had for years!
@TheUkuku6 жыл бұрын
Excellent information Captain, as usual. How about a video about airplane performance on takeoff and landing on airports at sea level vs airports at high altitude (11K ft)? what aspects needed to be considered when taking off in one and landing in another? payload, fuel, speed, wind? emergency landing?
@blewyd6 жыл бұрын
My grandmother was at the Galapagos and her fought from Ecuador - JFK was delayed 3 hours due to the winter weather. It started out as snow then it rained and sleeted.
@flybyairplane35285 жыл бұрын
blewyd 3 hours is much better than 14 hours late,, SNOW, in Frankfurt De, into IDELWIDE, NOW, JFK, flying to KIN , cheers from NJ.
@vicrobinson13666 жыл бұрын
Great informative video thanks
@Greggory19876 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!! I have never ever thought about this topic, though I know the importance of de-icing a plane. But still great video and thought provoking.
@jozsip6 жыл бұрын
Hi! You explain thing so well, this was really interesting subject. Thank you for your videos.
@garethevans97896 жыл бұрын
PG is one of the main ingredients of the liquid in vaporisers (and asthma inhalers).
@kicikici56 жыл бұрын
Very,very interesting video,many thanks 😊😎
@MentourPilot6 жыл бұрын
Great! Happy you liked it!
@Valantir5 жыл бұрын
As a former de-icer we had to watch out specifically for the A330. the engine pylons have grills in them and if we got fluid on those then you'd get the smoke in the cabin.
@ad-ir3wk6 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thanks 👍🏽
@AshleyWincer6 жыл бұрын
When it is possible, I would recommend having the aircraft face into wind after pushback for deicing. When an aircraft faces into the wind during deicing, it is easier to deice the aircraft and can be achieved quicker. Both Type 1 and especially Type 4 is vulnerable to wind..
@MentourPilot6 жыл бұрын
Great point.
@cnordegren6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Mentour Pilot always put out great content. Great content made better with puppy!
@ObsidianParis6 жыл бұрын
2:57 LOL ! :-) No longer need flaps with this !
@airfoxtrot20066 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Mentour i enjoyed it, hope you have a great weekend my friend.
@doktorjonsson38606 жыл бұрын
In aviation it's of course "better safe than sorry" but has there been any accidents because of that mentality? Interesting and enjoyable as always! You're really good at explaining stuff so that I (a total aviation noob with 0 flight hours and maybe 5 hours of Steam Flight sim) and many others understand.
@rolandalfonso69545 жыл бұрын
This. Was. Great. For me, your best. Start to finish. May you and your family have an awesome day as well! ( As an aside, Air Florida Flight 90. I watched it live...and never forgot,)
@TonyP92796 жыл бұрын
I actually flew out of South Dakota last week, early in the morning with a temperature of -20ºC. Soon after the "Line up and wait", the pilots increased engine power to take-off thrust but held the brakes for about 20-30 seconds. Now I know why.
@marykopp21173 жыл бұрын
It’s Mary. Age 79 from Florida, I watch many of your shows, I ,love. Airplanes and try to learn as much as I can😇
@Brunek7746 жыл бұрын
Very valuable video! Specially during atpl training ✈️ it's not a wasted time!
@earlystrings16 жыл бұрын
Huge delay in Baltimore once due to blizzard conditions, de-iced twice, finally made it onto the taxiway when the FAA mandated crew shift expired and we taxied back to the gate for the night. Wonder who loves winter ops more, crew or passengers...
@omkarpathawe1406 жыл бұрын
I really loved this video!!!
@member21266 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, very informative !!!
@stever48996 жыл бұрын
Shout out to KSLC which has the best de-icing setup ever! Long pads at the end of each runway, aircraft pull in side by side, multiple trucks hose off the aircraft and then off you go!
@sce2aux4646 жыл бұрын
Videos like this remind me of why I love living in Florida (Great place for flight training as well)
@andrewjames33615 жыл бұрын
You have gave me a much better understanding of de iceing a job I recently have started and I train next week great to no the basics thank you feel much better knowing a bit about it
@helenafranzen98283 жыл бұрын
Hi Petter! Cred to you for all your informative videos. I immediatly thought about Gottröra when I decided to watch this one. Clear ice on the wings was the culprit in that case so I wonder if the procedures of de-icing stems from that crash? Fortunatly everyone survived, but there was more things that had gone wrong than de-icing even though that caused the malfunction of the engines. Please do a video about that incident.
@jfdesignsinc.innovationsid15836 жыл бұрын
wow what an excellent video... thanx
@wannijohn87045 жыл бұрын
I am an iceman and deicer and I really enjoyed your video.
@living4christ6 жыл бұрын
I used to be a ramp agent for Comair, I remember deicing in the freezing cold, getting glycol in my face and mouth. It has a sweet taste by the way. The type II is green like snot and looks kinda cool when you spray it on the wings. I miss those days.
@Julia-nl3gq2 жыл бұрын
So we use a gylcol solution here in our apartment building - we put it in the heating system, so the heat pipes don't freeze when it's -40 out. You don't have to have this solution, and it is expensive to put in, but a burst pipe and no heat when it's -45 out are even more expensive, so our landlord had it put in. But... ...but the guy he hired to do it, the guy got a better job offer that day, so he went and did that, and left his 16 year old son in charge of putting the glycol into our heating system (not a straight-forward task, since it involves the boiler, etc., you gotta know what you're doing). Well this kid didn't know. So I was standing in my living room, when this hot sticky mess fell all over me! It was the heating pipe of the apartment above ours. The pipe burst, the water/glycol mix went through the ceiling, and fell onto me. It wasn't winter, it was late summer, cause ya gotta do this procedure in summer, when the boiler is off, etc. Thank god because if it had been winter boiling hot stuff would have fallen all over me. But it wasn't hot. I wasn't burnt. Just very sticky.
@ScottyTeddy6 жыл бұрын
Informative video, thanks. What about corrosion issues from different types of anti-ice fluids?
@wendyalonzo88025 жыл бұрын
Type 1 and type 4 really don't cause corrosion as it does shear off almost entirely from the aircraft. Sometimes type 4 can get into the quiet areas but it doesn't cause corrosion as much as a sticky situation.
@silfernandez30485 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this amazing video
@sirtarns6 жыл бұрын
I learn and enjoy your video mentor.
@tadeasloucka31816 жыл бұрын
Good job Mr. Captain and I'm really looking forward to using a upgraded app.
@imthesquareroot61256 жыл бұрын
And when a customer starts complaining about delays just say "Well would you rather be dead?" Yeah didn't think so.
@faridlarkem82256 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video and for all videos, if it's possible for your next video to talk about ISA deviation , and utility for the FMC programming Thank you very much
@mtech19616 жыл бұрын
Your Airline should be proud of you and pay you more as you are incredibly knowlegeable and inspire potential passengers to want to fly with someone so confident and professional. I was stuck in New York for 2 Days watching the JFK teams de-icing a 747 in Jan 1996.
@MentourPilot6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words!
@DaveSweetS6 жыл бұрын
Saw de-icing procedure last Tuesday in Moscow, snow fall at 5AM, my departure was at 10AM with -16°C, wings contaminated with a thin brilliant ice-snow cover just like sugar on sweets, on the taxiway the aircraft was deiced with white viscous fluid, 5 minutes later we were running on the runway, really powerful thrust and quite early rotation! Airbus A321 of Aeroflot!
@thespaceagent39916 жыл бұрын
Could you please do a video on the procedures of ILS and autopilot landing and explain more abt wats the aux really for?
@deaf28195 жыл бұрын
I’d rather be delayed than dead 😂. Easy choice for me.
@tonytrilex25554 жыл бұрын
finally a smart person
@jonahsgang88304 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too
@vedranb874 жыл бұрын
Oh no, I'd rather be dead than face social cosequences of being late. :D Just kidding, I don't want to die in a plane. If I'm in a plane, it means I have a plan, and I want that plan to succeed. Please do take your time to help me do this even though in the grand scheme of things you don't need to know my plans.
@sonnymoon64655 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! This is much more enjoyable than flight school ! that's my thinking anyway since I never went to flight school.
@treffnix44276 жыл бұрын
Well explained sir. Of course:) Greets from MUC deicing!
@TheDeanooo33 жыл бұрын
Love the “RIGHT!” Every now and again to make sure we are still listening🤣. I do the same as a driving instructor
@anassorbestiak4 жыл бұрын
this makes so much sense, you are a great teacher!
@sparkplug10186 жыл бұрын
Video suggestion, how does extreme temperature (hot or cold) effect engine performance?
@Gurer_Hizel5 жыл бұрын
Thats was a fantastic video. Thanks
@floydbradley95383 жыл бұрын
Articulate delivery of a fantastic presentation. I had a reservation on the Linjeflyg plane from Växjo to Bromma in January 1977 but changed my itinerary the night before. Everyone was killed on approach to Stockholm because of an icing situation on the wings. Very sad for them & their families but lucky for me.
@kathy13volpe6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Captain🌻👍
@siinc.m6 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Definitely something you don’t think about when living in a hotter climate. Q: The pitchfork in the background? Feedback: Your Bose headset is hard to see. Black on black. Keep up the great work. Fly safe.
@18snitram6 жыл бұрын
do a video about how to calculate and set flight parameters, like V speeds, TOGA, fuel, etc
@antifugazi6 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Martins please
@JustDesignzzz6 жыл бұрын
well the app on the ipad does everything... we just enter weather and aircraft information like air pressure, temperature, wind and take-off weight (this applies for the v-speeds)
@18snitram6 жыл бұрын
@@JustDesignzzz and how is the TOGA set in the 738? i have Xplane11 with the zibomod 738 but can't seem to find how it can be set also, what's the used passenger average weight in your company? thank you
@victornjoroge76716 жыл бұрын
Check out his app he got video's setting up the FMC
@ro4ers6 жыл бұрын
You do that on the FMC, the Take Off page. You input all the required data and the V1,Vr and V2. @@18snitram
@franksommer81516 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thank you. I have two questions: 1) Who desides to close an airport because of weather conditions? The airport itself or some higher authority? 2) Can a captain cancel/reject a flight, when he feels, thats not safe enought? Or will he get some penalty from his company? Thanks again.
@Valantir5 жыл бұрын
1) The airport authority decides based on (Faa, TC, EASA) regulations 2) Airlines have higher weather minima, than private pilots (also known as approach bans) basically we cannot START an approach if the weather is below a predefined limit. Where as a private pilot can give it a try and hope he sees the runway. With that in mind, the captain (at large airlines) doesn't really NEED to decide as the decision has likely been made for him by the company long before his comfort comes into question.
@jamesmueller98195 жыл бұрын
The airport also uses runway breaking condition reports they solicit from pilots just after landing.
@teecar98685 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmueller9819 BRAKING....
@teecar98685 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmueller9819 BRAKING
@rmanthefishkiller14086 жыл бұрын
hello Mentour Pilot, i was wondering if you could do a video about the demand? Demand of what type airplanes need the most pilots. As well as what my be needed in the future.
@greenpogo6 жыл бұрын
Please explain the TOGA button. I understand what it is, but seems pretty dangerous to use. Great video as always :)
@sethvalentine82406 жыл бұрын
I landed at KYIP, just west of Detroit Metro last Tuesday evening. Freezing rain had just started. Runway braking action was nil and it was a slow taxi in! They closed both YIP and DTW an hour later. Quite a mess for that night and well into the next day. Great explanation of deice procedures!
@DavidHerrera-gw5iv6 жыл бұрын
Why 6 people dislike this good Nd interesting video?, this info has been given by a professional pilot I really don't understand people sometimes. Said that, very good video, explains how is done and for safety why it must be done like that!
@ace_trace_22376 жыл бұрын
Hey my home airport is DTW😂yea I missed seeing the planes fly over for the time it was closed, a lot of Delta heavies fly over my house and I get some pretty cool pictures of them
@kdawg34846 жыл бұрын
14:26 Welcome to Vape Airlines. (Seriously. Propylene glycol is used for vaping solvent.)
@aritakalo80116 жыл бұрын
also welcome to the disco. propylene glycol is one if the commonly used fog agents in generators ( aka smoke machine). So welcome to rave airlines, we shall turn on the lasers soon.
@amazedatingnorance6 жыл бұрын
Seriously! Propylene is a plastic made from CORN! This particular formulation and the one used in vaping are used as a binder to keep materials that don't want to be mixed stay mixed. Glycol is actually a word for product made of two different liquid materials. Glycerin and Alcohol. Basically Anti-Freeze! And they don't like to mix period. Propylene keeps them that way. Propylene seems to be from my readings and observations, pretty much indestructible once it's made. It can be recycled MANY times! My airport catches the deice fluids and recycles them into coolant used for air conditioning units in large office buildings and hospitals. By the way. Propylene is also in Mountain Dew and many other soft drinks. It does the same job there that it does in Glycol.
@jamesmueller98195 жыл бұрын
It's also in a lot of other things including soft drinks.
@washx2k7556 жыл бұрын
That’s what I am asking for 20 min video
@MentourPilot6 жыл бұрын
I hope you liked it!
@watershed446 жыл бұрын
@Mentour Pilot Highest quality training video. I feel like I'm actually in a high level training class! Thank you for all your work.
@cheriachenthoppil9166 жыл бұрын
informative video. thanks
@harendrasingh71736 жыл бұрын
Really knowledgeable
@EleanorPeterson5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure a lot of regular car drivers will be ASTONISHED at the meticulous nature of aviation security and decision making. Endless checklists to go through - one for every conceivable situation - all with the express intention of removing the guesswork, hunches and (deadly) overconfidence that accounts for the difference in accident figures between cars journeys and those in commercial aviation. Car drivers have lots to deal with - most notably high-speed traffic within touching distance - so it's remarkable that there aren't MORE accidents than there are. For a commercial pilot, the use of guesswork and discretion is almost a last resort, whereas most car drivers are operating in a very high-risk zone as soon as they leave their garage. I wonder if ALL drivers had to operate with a professional pilot's mind-set, whether accident rates would fall? Would we just see fewer but bigger accidents?
@flybyairplane35285 жыл бұрын
Elli P one of the things instilled by my instructor, was NEVER EXERSIZE YOUR RIGHT OF WAY,,AS YOU COULD BE RIGHT, DEAD RIGHT, and I have applied that to road driving, I am now 77, and 1.35 million miles. 1 fatality , not proud of but life goes on , BTW, all those single car accidents PARKING are allhave their LEFT FOOT ONN BRAKES, RT FOOT on the gas !, Cheers from NJ
@luissol3964 Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated for atpl students!😊
@tentingaroundflorida6 жыл бұрын
Ice is a mess. Thanks your teaching us about it
@volvo096 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. It was 50f and rainy yesterday and it immediately dropped to 15f and froze up HARD. A few days before that it rained while it was about 20f (very little snow somehow) and shot down to 6f at night!!! Everything was covered in a layer of clear ice, and the rain froze right when it hit something. I thought of the craziness that would cause for pilots and airlines / airports.
@HelloKittyFanMan.6 жыл бұрын
Kyler, his what(s) is/are teaching you? Are your missing words for the possession(s) "videos are..."?
@plasmaburndeath6 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about that United Airlines flight a few days ago that was headed to Hong Kong wound up stuck in Canada after medical emergency, and the nightmare it turned into? Guess it had a broken door, and no customs agent - so people were stuck on it for 14 or 18 hours in -20 Temps. (not sure which figure is correct as news has it both ways)
@GamingRailfanner4 жыл бұрын
Topical Average day in Canada
@jguth66 жыл бұрын
@mentour Pilot Propolyene Glycol is what vape liquid is made from. So if it got into the APU bleed then its basically the worlds biggest vape haha!!
@s125ish6 жыл бұрын
Guth are u from Scotland pal
@jguth66 жыл бұрын
@@s125ish sure am. U?
@s125ish6 жыл бұрын
@@jguth6 aye ,ek ursel
@bobbypaluga43465 жыл бұрын
Living in the US Rocky Mountains, I’ve never seen freezing rain. But one trip to Dallas was delayed by three days due to freezing rain, then once we arrived and he.d our meeting were were two days late leaving. The meeting was held at the west hotel at DFW of the two matching hotels on both sides of the road that divides the airport east-west. There is northing worse that being stuck in an empty hotel at an airport that has been closed due to the freezing rain. We had to walk over to A to rebook our American tickets which meant we had to cover about 1000 yards of parking lot, no shuttles or trams were working, nobody could stay standing for more than 20 strides before you would drop like a load of bricks. I’ve been in Denver and Salt Lake when 2 inches of snow were falling per hour, while crews kept a single runway open. Likewise torrential rain closed Sky Harbor in Phoenix forcing our aircraft to land in Tucson, but there is nothing nastier that all those 1-3” ice forms you’re risking your life to walk on. I’ve never heard of the condition on either east or west coast, nor the northern section of the Midwest
@mauriciomarianocarneiro6 жыл бұрын
Congrats Captain. Very good video. Question, how to check if there is ice on the engine blades in an airplane where the engine is very high? Does the airports provide equipment?
@westsideratmarshall6 жыл бұрын
You didn’t discuss wing boots and leading edge heat in coming in on landing and decentd
@martinmatola6886 жыл бұрын
Vincent Shen Because that's technically anti-icing not de-icing.
@garyjeffrey50266 жыл бұрын
Hi Petter. Hypothetical question but do you think given a few hours training you would be able to fly a military jet?
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn5 жыл бұрын
Couple of points to add: No amount of cold (below freezing) Type I fluid will remove contamination from a cold wing. It must be heated. Type I fluid is never applied as a deicing fluid until it is diluted with water. The mixture has a lower freezing point than pure glycol, reduces contamination of the environment by glycol, and saves money for the operator. The amount of water added is adjusted to maintain a safe margin between the current temperature of the air, or of the wing surface if it contains colder fuel, and the freezing point of the mixture. The actual freezing point of the mixture taken from the deicing application nozzle is tested and recorded before each deicing operation, and also after mixed fluids are replenished in the tanks. In cold weather, one unfortunate icing scenario can cause an engine problem while the aircraft is on the ground. After the engines are shut down, snow blowing into the inlet of a still-warm engine can be melted into water that pools in the bottom of the fan or compressor section. As the engine cools further, the water can freeze and physically lock the fan and compressor blades to the engine case. If an engine start is attempted before the ice is removed, the N1 (fan) section of the engine will not rotate when the N2 (or N3) section of the engine is spun up by the starter. If the cockpit crew does not follow procedure and confirm N1 rotation on instruments before adding fuel, the hot combustion gases impinging stationary turbine buckets will immediately overheat and damage them. Time for an engine change. Theoretically, this scenario never happens because, one, engine fans are always physically checked for free rotation as part of the preflight or pre-start walkaround, and, two, no pilot or mechanic will ever add fuel before verifying N1 rotation during engine start. Theory aside, it has happened.
@VikasKalwani6 жыл бұрын
I have one request - please make both of your dogs to sit with you during the videos. Give them airplane stuff toy each to play with. That'd be so cool.