Unforecast ICING at Night, Flying in Europe

Fly from London to Germany, encounter unexpected icing at night in the mountains, navigate some of the world’s most complicated airspace, and discuss differences between flying in Europe and flying in the U.S.
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[@brodyponsness4044]

Makes me happy to see pilots still having a fun time in cockpit with direct to DIK 😂. Loving the videos!

[@anher2925]

It's BIKOK and ASOLE in this part of the world.

[@Chris11249]

14:15 :)

[@slimshady3374]

Yeah having lots of fun that's fine......but at 18.00 he says icing was the last thing on his mind.....Being that unaware,,,, It will someday, be the last thing on his mind.....ever.

[@hassan050428]

He says it all “I don’t even know where we are going”. Thats tells you the level of preparation!

[@tonym.9876]

My ex-gf's father passed away as the result of a plane crash caused by ice on the wings. He was flying with Tony Bettenhausen (Bettenhausen Racing) over Tennessee in a twin engine Cessna. Tony had just been multi-engine qualified and apparently didn't have the autovibrate for the ice. Needless to say they went into a flat spin. Four perished. Pay attention to ice!

[@williammickelson403]

The last time I watched this I was 15, and this series inspired me to start flying. Got my private last summer

[@MCJimboy10]

that's awesome, do you still fly / started building your hours?

[@carlymontasana4767]

Fascinating video, Matt! Thank you for all the time and effort you put into making these. You are the best!

[@310Pilot]

Another nice video Matt. I've enjoyed your flying adventures! Hopefully one day I'll get brave and cross the Atlantic in my 310! Watching these videos helps give me an expectation of how ATC works outside of the US.

[@timberwolf27]

I love coming back to this video, all the dudes flying as the night slowly looms in and the atmosphere gets close, then dealing with the ice, I dunno just something great about it. Top vid Matt

[@PaoloCalvi]

4 guys flying from DIK to KOK, not bad for a joke! :D

[@richhob9780]

I have flown a lot in the UK, and in particular actually learned to fly in a Tiger Moth at Shoreham, so am very familiar with the Seaford/Lydde routings. We had to land at Lydde and then fly over the channel on the Light aircraft corridor,and I agree with you that the GA systems in the US are one heck of a lot more user friendly than the UK, where light aircraft are most illegal in pretty well all controlled airspace., and by the way the infringement penalties ARE SEVERE! I really enjoyed this video, and applaud you for finding the time to make and edit it, well done.

[@Klaatu-ij9uz]

Boy!........you guys were really between a KOK and a DIK there for a while. Glad all came out well. We enjoy your videos VERY much.

[@sventistvan9442]

Great vlog guys, brings back memories of my flying around...Its all good fun..privileged as well...Keep filming Matt and get back to your Bonanza asap.

[@hatchettc182]

that was awesome ride along with you guys great footage as well matt!!!!!!

[@LordJasonKing]

I have to say, that dik thing did make me chuckle. Us lads are so silly sometimes. You missed the opportunity for Kok as well. Dik and kok in one day too much for anyone.

[@briand4000]

cleared direct DIK, standby for KOK. Better use the autopilot, else risk going blind if you hand fly.

[@mattjeffrey5886]

Continue DIK was absolutely hilarious 😂😂. Lovely these videos 👏🏻👏🏻

[@johnhalter445]

I think you are doing a great job. Wonderful experience, thanks for bringing us along.

[@JustinOhio]

Matt, I'm not sure if anyone has ever told you but you have a very calming effect about you. Normally I would feel very anxious and on the edge of panic in that small Cessna over the ocean but I think you would make it bearable. Great content!

[@kkiwi54]

I'd be wearing my life vest while crossing the channel

[@rickhyde4183]

Hi Matt just love your VLOG! As a frustrated pilot living in Plymouth UK, I am following your epic trip from the US to Europe. Love your coverage such as different camera angles, narration, GREAT music, drone footage & experiences (Haggis/Castles!!) Tell me, are you all from the USA as your friend in the back seat has an English accent? (I can't find his name anywhere). Glad you enjoyed Scotland & now look forward to watching your trip to Austria. I've been there many times & could I suggest a flight over the Salzkammergut (the Austrian Lake District). It is absolutely stunning. East of Salzburg, Wolfgangsee with the Lion shaped mountain & then south to Hallstadt, a town literally perched at the edge of a lake at the foot of a mountain! Keep them coming guys as I just love it all! Will you be covering your return?

[@rickhyde4183]

Cheers!

[@adrianflower3230]

14:15 My favourite ATC exchange ever! well done, very entertaining :-)

[@celestialfix]

Really like your videos Matt. These adventure flights are very interesting. Kind of a flying reality show, lol.

[@alpinepilot]

situational awareness: zero

[@AureliusR]

Seriously. He is always so distracted in the cockpit, and seems more focused on trying to make videos than fly the plane. Would never get in a plane with him. And complaining about how Europe actually follows procedures & rules over the unregulated airspace in the US... if you hate flying in Europe, head back over to the US -- nobody there will miss your arrogant American attitude.

[@wolfgangmikeleit4630]

Yes, in Europe we have more restrictions, than in the USA. I own the German PPL and the FAA-Licence and I know very well the difference. I love to fly in America! Many happy landings to all of you!

[@robertthrailkill1368]

Very well done. Enjoyed the comments, music and mix of views. Excellent!!

[@vgnnr38]

Welcome to the joys of flying in the UK! Great content as always 👍🏻

[@thejoyofflying182]

Karlsruhe / Baden-Baden Airpark EDSB - the airport ist right in my neighborhood. I am based at Speyer EDRY, a couple of miles further north of EDSB. Glad to see you stopped by! :) Love your videos!

[@sjam7867]

Gotta love boys being boys! Super serious IFR flying but they erupt in laughter at "continue DIK" - ;-)

[@GarrettThornburg]

Great video! Watching your videos has really inspired me to get my PPL. Just finished ground school and about to take my FAA written. See you in the sky!

[@dondoswell3113]

its been a long time nice to have you back good video

[@oddhominem]

''We'll be passing over Dunkirk...I *loved* that movie!'' FFS

[@sluxi]

Similar to how it sounded like he thought a castle in Scotland and its history was inspired by Game of Thrones in a previous video...

[@Galf506]

January over the mountains in Europe, during the night, 0 C° or below... UNEXPECTED ICING. How. Unexpected.

[@kamiltamiola2066]

[@skorpius752]

They were surprise about a clogged pitot tube north of the arctic circle, too!

[@Spudeaux]

They were flying during the summer - this video was uploaded months after flight.

[@yogaexe]

I can't believe so many people giving thumbs up on this retarded comment. They obviously didn't record this in January. Look at their clothings, they were wearing t-shirts and shorts.

[@Iclo420]

Where did you see "mountains" between UK and Germany ?

[@brandonspencer3840]

i realize I am a little late to the show but cant stop watching! As an aspiring pilot I find this absolutely incredible. Very impressed and entertained to say the least....

[@glassarthouse]

Well. Great flying. I am glad you all pulled out of your predicament.

[@jemand8462]

"you have passports, right?" "ehmmm no" :D

[@TheFinerPoints]

A lot of interesting stuff in this video. It is a legal requirement (not to mention polite and in the best interest of safety) to report icing encounters ... FYI

[@dtiydr]

Im not into flying at all but I actually thought that as well since icing had to be something others would really like to know.

[@alexdimartino4192]

Well said. That is very true. Irresponsible behaviour. But courageous and fascinating adventure.

[@beyond305]

they clearly dont give a fuck just like they dont care that they are flying and doing 50 other things besides flying. idiots like this are why planes have accidents. report this video and the rest of his videos to the FAA

[@angrygreek1985]

They clearly have an autopilot which reduces workload in an airplane like this to extremely minimal levels.

[@PumpUptheJam81]

So...these guys didn’t film their every radio call. And they have indeed reported pireps. Perhaps we can hold judgment unless we were actually with them on the flight. Thanks.

[@alphawolf5750]

Love it, thanks for posting

[@paultaylor9939]

Great flight guys keep up the good work all the best cheers

[@llaughridge]

'Making it up as you go' is NOT how professional pilots do it. You need to take the International Procedures Initial course from FlightSafety, and you are legally required to review the AIP for each country you operate through. There's no excuse for just bumbling around.

[@c32amgftw]

Len Laughridge yeah the guy is an a hole complains about the plane, complains about other countries' rules, I wouldn't be able to stand him in a plane next to me.

[@airaction2257]

You are so right this guy complains about everything, if the US is so great then go back there Matt we won't miss you !

[@DrBBedir]

Len Laughridge you are right ... and also he speaks too much.. its better to enjoy the video with no audio😁😁

[@semaex]

I agree with you. I did my VFR in the US and my IFR in Europe. I understand that in the US everything about aviation is taken less serious. Telecomms are sloppy, procedures are guidelines. So that's where this guy gets his attitude from. Once you start flying in a really crowded airspace like Europe, you start realizing that preparation is half the work involved in flying. So I did watch this feeling cringy most of the time. Not a video I would recommend to anybody.

[@bugnut82]

I like this comment. I fly professionally as well, when I have friends or family ask me to fly them for fun on a weekend, I won't go until I check and review everything.

[@macedk]

I like the last 5 seconds muhahah :)

[@VINCENTOCONNOR]

Hi Matt, great video very entertaining. Thank you

[@GamerDragonflyLP]

I love how when some (definately not all) americans try to pronounce german words and fail, they make a big deal about it and shitting on the language instead of just accepting that they just suck pronouncing it :) props to the people that actually try to accept and respect different cultures

[@hogwild72024]

I am laughing my head off watching you confirm DIK with ATC!

[@greenicerebbel]

"Continue DIK " i laughed so hard !! I was expecting him to say delta india kilo, but nope, he said dik !

[@RWBHere]

What's funny about it? Are you implying an insult to everyone whose name happens to be Richard - often shortened to Dick, as in Dick van Dyke, Dick Strawbridge, Dick Emery and others? Seriously, it means nothing in Europe, and not even schoolchildren think that it's funny. You'll be saying that the Irish politician, Willy Stroker, has a funny name next, or that the late Korean statesman, Lee Bum Sook should have changed his name! ;-)

[@ytucharliesierra]

@@RWBHere It seems like some people, even if they can call themselves mature by age and actually fly planes spiritually do not manage to evolve beyond Beavis and Butthead mentality. Sadly enough, this actually can also be diagnosed with certain corporate leaders and politicians these days.

[@MrPeterthepilot]

That’s because he’s a dik...

[@scottkiel810]

I'm personally surprised there was no comment on their current routing from KOK to DIK. Missed opportunity.

[@antigen4]

funny if you are 8 years old i guess

[@CristianSantiagoAV]

Nice video like always!

[@amerigodenuzzo6281]

You passed over my house. 😂DIK is a vor standing for dikirsh :d. I loved you faces when you had to talk to Brussels control. Belgian accent hahaha

[@DoubleE_Aviation]

DIK, was right under KOK....

[@easyJetAirbus]

Matt, I generally love your videos but please please please take the time to review the local ATC when you next fly in Europe as it varies vastly depending on which country you are in and helps to avoid a frosty reception. Regarding the high landing fees at Shoreham, not all UK GA airfields cost as much - some just ask for a donation or cost £5, others mirror Shoreham. Hopefully you will fly around the UK again as most airfields are pretty friendly. The Skyway Code produced by the CAA in the UK will give you a quick overview of R/T in the UK without having to read through the 400 or so pages of CAP413!

[@twyatt5]

Matt also needs to learn how to talk to ATC and be more appreciative of how controllers assist him and not take everything for granted.

[@tafan321]

UK pilots continually forget about ICAO standards of radio phraseology.

[@skorpius752]

Most Americans think we're the reason English is the international standard for aviation communication...

[@shroomiestshroom3655]

@@Malc478 if this is to complicated for you, you shouldnt be flying a plane, simple as that. These are simple laws and rules that thousands of pilots cope with every year. And every rule and law is there for a reason, usually at the cost of human life, it makes it safer, there is a reason there is controlled airspace, but i guess your to stupid to understand that, JUST TYPE IN CAPITAL LETTERS MORE, REALLY SHOWS YOUR INTELLIGENCE, a typical american i'm guessing.....

[@EricHaskins71]

48 years old and yes I LMAO when ATC responded with Direct DIK ...... Thx Matt you got me to go back and restart my Part 61 here in the Brooksville/Zephyrhills area in Florida. I love yours and Stevos vids

[@Ridejumpfly]

That was the BEST ending line to the video. Well done!

[@Twiny41]

Hey Matt, great video! I'm a French private pilot and subscriber based in Chicago, your first comment about French ATC made me cringe. Then 2 min later I must admit that the French controller on the radio was the most confusing :D He even seemed to get mad at you guys because you didn't get his accent ;) Anyway, great vid, but after spending 5 years in the US, I'd advise you to adopt slightly more open mindedness towards other cultures, you can only benefit from it :)

[@holdenm1400]

I agree, as a Private Pilot in the US, we can only learn from different cultures. And props for not making your comment toxic like 90% of the other commenters from Europe!

[@AureliusR]

@@holdenm1400 I mean, they have a pretty good reason to react negatively. All Matt did was complain about how awful it is over there. Arrogant American syndrome -- and people wonder why Americans are so reviled around the world.

[@holdenm1400]

@@AureliusR bro, i posted that comment 3 years ago thanks for the time capsule :)

[@bobvonbuelow9983]

Wunderbar!

[@davidberry6046]

Karlrsruhe; I love that city: I spent three years in high school there between 1962-1965! I suppose it has changed a lot since then, but it's still a great city!

[@thorsten_7059]

What a great trip. I saw all legs from Boston to Wien in a row. I hope the Corona lockdown is over soon and we can all fly GA again.

[@DTRB56]

Plenty of small GA airports with reasonable landing fees here in the UK. Shoreham is one of the largest, and situated in a very wealthy part of the UK. Agreed the way UK controlled airspace is set up is a bit crazy

[@andyengle]

"We are so immature!" lolzz

[@robertwebb8564]

Great Video. I travel to Karlsruhe often for work. Nice city to visit in Germany!

[@call911forcookies2]

Awesome! Just passed my private checkride, so this video was just the right thing to watch now :D

[@d.wayneotto1094]

Personally, I really enjoy Matt’s sense of humour. Like the ongoing Bonanza vs Cessna jabs. It's a shtick, and it’s great. Just like the whole UK ATC thing. Matt and JP would look at each other and smile each time Matt would launch into it, because they knew it would evoke reaction. And that it did. Sure enough, reaction poured in from the grumpy old pilot peanut gallery - as it always does. I sure hope when I’m a grumpy old pilot I will find enjoyment in videos like these - instead of hurtling criticism and insults at them.

[@ct8583]

Yep. Both the 210 and the Bonanza are wonderful airplanes and I would happily fly either.

[@MichaelLloyd]

Bingo!

[@briand4000]

These guys have more aviation knowledge under their belts than I have at twice their age. I struggle to understand even American ATC at times, much less with accents and unfamiliar phraseology inherent with other ATC systems. Crossing the pond in a single engine piston is not something I would ever consider, either. After building an airplane and pulling engines apart and knowing how just one small part can crater an engine...well..such a trip is just beyond my comfort level. These videos are so well done, I get the thrill without the risk.

[@theJellyjoker]

The art of the troll.

[@charlesaanonson3954]

@@briand4000 Engine failures are pretty rare. I have flown single-engine airplanes for more than 2,000 hours without a single engine failure. Driving to the airport is usually more dangerous than flying halfway across the US is a single engine 206 Cessna. Once you get up to altitude in a single engine airplane, about the only thing or person that you have to worry about is yourself. Do everything right and the trip will always turn out OK.

[@larrytaylor7753]

Matt, I could not agree with you more about flying in the UK. I’m a recently retired 777 captain. I flew that thing to Australia, Asia, South America, and Europe. London Control was the biggest pain a__ I ever dealt with.

[@spoonforthought3534]

LARRY TAYLOR xplane guy right here

[@anher2925]

So you prefer Australian ATC more? 😁

[@jimcarnicom9417]

Xclnt camera work, and informative videos. Great adventure!

[@niharjoshi8135]

Bro video was unexpected .❤️❤️

[@andysmith3087]

You'd be insane to fly in cloud without an aircraft approved for icing. Forecasts mean shit. If you're in cloud below zero, expect ice.

[@txtoolfan]

I'm glad im not the only one who doesn't understand a thing those ATC were saying

[@michaeljohn8905]

Great video. Thank you for posting this informative video.

[@grahamball364]

Hi Matt just found your channel,some great video work and adventures look forward to the next time.

[@jooproukens800]

i am doing my thesis on de-icing procedures.

[@MrGoldman9]

You lucky guys not crashed.....I was shocked and surprise that you don’t checked the icing conditions specially when you’re flying over Europe before your flight plan has been submitted.?? Please consider this as it serious lessons for your future and for all other pilots how watching your channel !! I always wish for you saves flight .... this is captain Raf from Jordan .

[@Walterwaltraud]

They decided to sink a bit, end of story. That's flying here at this time of the year. With no mountains below them, not a real concern in that aircraft.

[@paulbergman8228]

The plane has de-icing boots on the wings and tailfeathers, so I think they were not too worried about minor icing. Not sure about the prop, but usually they have heat strips on it if the rest of the plane has de-icing or TKS.

[@patriotsfan1236]

not really. they have de ice boots. maybe not the best decision to fly in it but it would take a substantial amount of ice to make it crash

[@Damianthelovetour2024]

This was an amazing flight all perspectives. Thanks for sharing u should re share again. When is the documentary coming out. Any word ?

[@-Loki--]

Well I think I will keep an eye on this channel in anticipation of a day when we watch a replay of a classic (for aircraft type) gear up landing.

[@Karl-cg9cv]

Matt: *Filing the no camera sign*

[@JamieWardHD]

DIK jokes are always funny no matter how old you are.

[@JohnAdams-lw5wh]

I just randomly stumbled on your videos and I am hooked

[@michaelhiggins7365]

Very interesting video. Thanks !

[@skydive1424]

Did you ever had someone have a look at that autopilot? The gain is too high and it’s constantly overcorrecting in roll

[@charliecrosslan]

Not reading back the majority of the mandatory read back instructions! Cleared to enter controlled airspace, service type etc should all be read back!

[@patrickleonhardt9840]

great video :) I live in karlsruhe.. nice to see you flying there :)

[@KumidazAviator]

Great video, thanks!

[@thorstenklattvaneupen8456]

...from KOK to DIK...😂

[@mxdgogo]

This guy is a statistic waiting to happen! He flies crazy hours, spends more time watching screens than looking at the airplane, and is continuously distracted. He's got ADD and that's going to get him and his passengers killed. "Fly the plane kid, stop recording your imminent demise!"

[@seagullsbtn]

Coming back to watch this, the first airfield I flew GA from G-AYOL was the call sign. Long since deregistered.

[@ThePigimoltedo]

Hi Matt! I love your video, thank you from Pigi, Milan, Italy 😁👍🏻

[@cjd3879]

That pilot looks totally lost. Would never fly with him.

[@Bhatt_Hole]

That music tho. Know how some people are color blind? KZbin has clearly shown that some people are cheesy-music-blind. Or, would that be: Chessy-music-deaf?

[@andrewmgoss]

It’s Tropical House music which has plagued KZbin for a few years now, I’m assuming since there is a lot of royalty free versions. It’s seriously one of my biggest pet peeves

[@brianrobertson1211]

You made me miss flying. I am thoroughly enjoying your videos.

[@traceydeakin6055]

Brilliant!

[@geddon436]

Where do you find the money to do this type of flying?

[@fordog]

Just Google his name and you can easily find out . Matt Guthmiller

[@thekobaz]

I tend to find most of my money under the couch.

[@sluxi]

@@fordog He's just tagging along for this though, it's the other KZbinrs footing the bill mostly here... Also I don't think googling him fully answers the question.

[@maxdenhaag1]

Unexpected icing!!!! I’d better say unaware and unexpected pilot! Ps check your freezing level weather charts next time you plan a flight!

[@MrRem7600]

agreed. this wreaks of amateur hour to the point of negligence. Specially when you hear them asking control what the LSALT is for the area they are descending in.

[@Gagarin737]

He asked for the minium altitude (IFR), not the lowest safe

[@s4aviator804]

Checking the freezing levels along your route before you fly is great, but the current outside air temperature will never lie to you. It was unexpected because at that OAT, airframe icing is extremely unlikely. I don't think this looks like amateur hour at all. What looks like amateur hour are two random guys on the internet dropping comments about an experienced pilot who has flown around the world in a NON known ice certified airplane. I've been flying professionally for quite a while, and from time to time, you get some ice when you didn't think you would.

[@s4aviator804]

I don't agree at all. Asking what the minimum altitude was, I personally think that was a great decision. In the US we call it the minimum vectoring altitude. If I started rapidly picking up ice in a piston single, where my only option to escape it was to go down and not up, I'd really like to know what the lowest altitude I can stay on my clearance is. Did you realize that they were navigating off airway? It's not as simple as just checking an MEA.

[@maxdenhaag1]

S4 Aviator here is another smart ass pilot who has a couple hours on Cessna calls him self I’ve been flying professionally for quite a while!

[@guygfm4243]

Amazing that you do this with the problems of language well done and subscribed will look at you old ones now.

[@coffeebeantravels]

Really enjoyed this video. Focusing on the aviation side and technical aspects is to my liking. Being from the UK, it's always a headache to fly down in the southeast of the UK. Glad to be based up at EGCC/MAN.

[@redlightcivic]

Holy Smokes guys! I hate to be negative, but in shot after shot I was screaming, "Who is flying the damn plane". Significant periods of time passing with not a glance of the panel. Flying in an unfamiliar area, at night, not only in weather but icing conditions, and a lot of distraction in the cockpit. Again, it isn't my intention to bash. But, if an emergency occurs, seconds can count and not having your head in the game can be disastrous. Thanks for the video and fly safe.

[@Walterwaltraud]

It's an edit of a long video. What do you think we do when we are at cruise level on autopilot? The normal thing - fuel, instruments, atc, all blend into "no surprises, smooth sailing". That simple.

[@nicholmesza]

Dude... holy crap was that ATC difficult to understand! It's stressful enough flying into unfamiliar airspace without not being able to desypher the ATC commands. You guys have some balls!

[@donjohnston3776]

I am with Matt all the way. The communication confusion is disturbing.

[@visarma9673]

nicholmesza - interestingly, (my experience through/into Germany from USA) is that most of the European Air Traffic Controllers enjoy speaking with American "English" speaking pilots... because I've noticed they pep/chirp up a bit when they realize they have a yankee conversing with them... just saying I've noticed it...

[@murto45]

Yes the french accent of the ATC controller was so horrible (I'm french also but I have a better accent than him ahah) and even me I had some difficulties to understand what the ATC wanted to say

[@mwalker1975]

I have really enjoyed these videos. A dream of mine is to get my license, this just inspires me that much more!

[@laurenzhagemann7483]

A bit late but greetings here from Karlsruhe :) Love your videos!

[@swamprat69er]

Matt, the radio drowned out most of your dialog and I am using headphones.

[@JamesAH1]

Yeah we love red tape in the UK, not always a bad thing to be honest.

[@fips7764]

So nice to see u guys landing at my hometown airport

[@TheWindigomonster]

Loved the ending

[@rAvensBBr]

Louis owns the plane?!? Um, let him ride up front every now and then???

[@leighehrmann1285]

Matt, next time for IFR filing in Europe, just go to the website Eurofpl.com. Makes it easy! Not as easy as in Canada/US, but easier than filling out a paper ICAO plan

[@TheEmcol]

eurofpl.eu :)

[@leighehrmann1285]

Yes you’re right! It has been a few months since I’ve used their service

[@TheEmcol]

Don’t worry :) i actually saw your comment and I was interested so thank you for sharing :)

[@soufianebef_91]

C Farrugia can someone tell me how much this cessna Cost??

[@TheEmcol]

Soufiane Bouatlaoui controller.com should have enough information about pricing ;)

[@simplyroger2763]

LoL. Cool to see you flew thru my area. Greetings from EHBK.

[@ADVMotoLiving]

Love the opening with Shoreham EGKA, my home base.