The Secrets of Minecraft's Ancient Pyramids | Deep Dive

[@RetroGamingNow]

Thanks for watching! If you're interested, join the discord: discord.gg/3xbkSmFbYy Also, what would you like me to make the next video about? Let me know down below!

[@nickjayyoung7662]

Make certain you credit the KZbinrs whose video footage you used. I recognise a snippet - which started around 9:20 - as Grian's. (I'm still currently watching this video, however.) Edit: Just got close to the end and saw "Other Sources" in your credits. I know one of them is Grian's video, however I suggest you place the video's title and the KZbinr who made that video beside (in front of or after it) the link you provide. Otherwise, the video is rather nice.

[@RetroGamingNow]

@@Raytay286x Yes, all sources are credited. I can put it as it happens next time to make it clearer.

[@minedantaken1684]

@@RetroGamingNow when you pointed out the fact that ships are too small for endermen, you forgot that both jungle temples and pyramids don't have enough space too. The entrences are 1x2.

[@puffersaur6422]

@@RetroGamingNow I just wanted to ask you why did you choose endermen as candidats of the once advanced species? Is it because you didn't want to theorize about humans being the builders to not being in the shadow of matpat? I ask you because to be fair most of the structures you presented in your last videos are not built for endermen, the entrances are 2 blocks talll and the fact that endermen, the great powerful builders, couldn't defeat a dragon while a dude came out of nowhere can, is just ridiculous, plus the egg doesn't make the dragon respawn, the crystals do. Not only that but the fact that they can spawn in the overworld even tho you they were trapped in the end, as you said, disprooves the whole idea of them being defeated by a dragin tyrant I don't want to insult your theories, it's just it feels ... to not make much sense

[@yourwholemother]

@@puffersaur6422 yea

[@plm-fp6nu]

Id like to see the extinction theory tbh.

[@ZulaZapper]

Would be interesting

[@Xzanah]

Im sure it was the tusken raiders.

[@houselemuellan8756]

It's the Phantoms! They hunt Steves with insomnia! They are also undead!

[@mlmii1933]

I would as well, I love Minecraft lore.

[@poppaoof3059]

same bro

[@pixelfiend7292]

I’d like to point out that a nether portal is three blocks tall, perfect for an enderman

[@deansdrawings6844]

On the topic of nether portals, I don't believe he mentioned ruined portals or Piglins.

[@CarolinaCycloneJames]

Same for mineshafts

[@ojakaorangejohns]

Jit

[@Indigoloco664]

:0

[@aoki9440]

@@CarolinaCycloneJames the theory alrd mention that Enderman might or might not be had contact with them. And they don't need Minecart cuz the can teleport anyway.

[@NoodleOrgans]

i love how the guardians sound terrifying underwater but once on land you realize the water was just working as almost an amplifier.

[@shwingleman]

When your entire security system is counteracted by milk.

[@sboy2044]

And axolotls

[@reurez7942]

Bruh i though your joke was about people who are allergic to milk

[@corriblehunt4554]

@Egg Egg egg egg yep. 3 Tnt and a trident solves it all.lol

[@h3ftymouse]

Happy Dani noises

[@harikneek]

@@h3ftymouse i think dani cant be poisoned, at this point his blood is milk and orange juice

[@StickBugger]

Fun fact: there are disturbing noises of a possible sea monster when exploring deep underwater in Minecraft and that explains why there are so many shipwrecks in the oceans. That also explains why many of the shipwrecks are destroyed like broken in half and why guardians are so protective of their monuments. Edit: perhaps the sea monster looked similar to the common squid but much bigger as guardians are very hostile towards squids. The sea monster had to be at least as big as the biggest shipwrecks you can find as the monster had to be powerful enough to sink these ships. These squid titans could also have caused the demise of the ancient builders. My theory goes that as the ancient builders were carrying cargo across the ocean plenty of times and at any given moment, there are at least a few hundred ships sailing. Their economy was booming when the thing arrived. It was massive. Bigger than anything the ancient builders have ever seen before. It destroyed any ship that passed by, often ripping the ship into small bits. Not even the guns on board the ships did anything to the creatures. Sea travel became impossible as more and more of these creatures appeared. The ancient builders were stuck. As the creatures learned how to mutate squids in some way that is unknown, they turned squids into minions. The creatures even learned how to slightly mutate the squid minions and mutated the squids into ultra aggressive spider-like creatures. These can still be found today as spiders. Anyway, the mutated squids started to attack the ancient builders and spread a desease across the ancient builders. I would presume that the virus would then go on to kill all ancient builders, turning them into either undead versions of the ancient builders, or a live skeleton. Some ancient builders tried to flee to the nether, but the virus followed, turning the ancient builders into wither skeletons or killing them altogether, releasing their soul energy in the air and ground causing some sections of the soul sand Valleys to be created. Eventually, the creatures died out as their main food source died out or simply wasn't enough to sustain them. Anyway, the guardians kept on protecting the ocean monument and killed any squids nearby, fearing that these squids would kill their masters, elder guardians. This is where we are today. Thank you for all the replies. They encouraged me to make this theory. Anyway bye. Feel free to give your opinions on this theory in the replies.

[@nether322]

Yes i didnt heared that yet. And what could the cave sounds be? Maybe some myterious entity.

[@LetThereBeChaos]

@@nether322 The wardens cry?

[@nether322]

@@LetThereBeChaos That would be the most terrible crying I have ever heard.

[@Anestheticcritera]

@@LetThereBeChaos but... *the wardens haven't been in the game yet*

[@piotrdaniel3829]

There could have been actual sea monsters in the game, but people voted to add Phantoms instead

[@user-iq7mk3gb9w]

I wonder why nobody has done a theory about the end poem (the thing appears when you defeat the dragon and return home). That thing is so mysterious, it is even messing with real life you, not only your minecraft character.

[@redsky4016]

Game theory did it is called the ending of minecraft decoded

[@clairer2747]

....

[@Novacrab]

@@redsky4016 but didn't they explain it with something like "they are gods so advanced that they know that they're inside a game" or something? I mean it would make perfect sense, I'd just like to have a more "in-universe" explanation

[@PS-vr1uv]

HOLY- I just searched it up on Google and that is DEEP. Mojang had NO RIGHT going there lmfaooo

[@thatonetrashkid5390]

Your right someone is talking to someone else to

[@scibanana3542]

"since villagers still exist in the world today wouldn't they still be sailing and exploring?" For anyone who has seen the movie Moana (I have, my sister spent a year watching it twice every three days), there is a logical explanation for that - dangers of the ocean. Perhaps they stopped sailing because their ships never returned... Just an alternative theory I don't really think so myself but I would like to put that out there.

[@spammal]

Maybe the ocean dangers explain the fossil bones which can be found. These could've been big creatures who broke the villagers ships, hence shipwrecks, and are the ancestors of current ocean mobs like guardians. However, some evolved to be peaceful and became squids, later finding glow ink sacks, consuming them and generating a glow effect on their skin, forming glow squids.

[@stephendelarosa584]

Sailing in MC means you run the risk of drowners and guardians beaming you so yeah agree

[@pussyslaya4543]

thats what i was thinking

[@grimmsoul3096]

then why don't the villagers have as advanced gear in the ships or at least some close thing?

[@GucciDaMochi]

BIGGG BRAIN

[@drakebloodknight7981]

Personal head canon: the Nether was used for resources (mainly potion related) but was evacuated after the spawning of the Wither (which is why the portals were broken). Those killed by the Wither became Wither skeletons, whose only motive is to protect their fortresses from the Piglins (the Nether’s native species). The Undead plague/curse spread into the Overworld anyway, leading to the extinction level event and explaining where everyone else is. The cells in the Strongholds might have been used for quarantine. I like the idea that the plan was to escape into the End, but since only one in 1 billion portals is ever actually open in-game this seems unlikely. Our character has to know what he’s doing, since the odds are low that you would happen to coincidentally open portals to other worlds. So here we go: Steve is a shipwrecked sailor during the Undead apocalypse who is trying to gather resources to survive and open an End portal in search of his friends while learning the truth about the Wither. Along the way he must descend into the deepest caverns, seek out the terrible Woodland Mansion, and venture into the fiery depths of the Nether. And all the while he is being watched by a nearly identical replica of himself who lacks eyes. Probably just described a better Minecraft movie than the one we’ll end up getting.

[@Scout800DR]

That's epic.

[@jaeda6th]

Imagine this animated into a ninety minute movie (In the plastic blocky style Mojang uses for their update trailers). Maybe incorporate Alex in there somewhere as well. A companion of Steve would be a wolf, as he recruits it early in his journey. Eventually his furry mate dies during his fight with the Ender Dragon or a village raid. Still lots of ways to go, as I am semi-concerned of how the Minecraft Movie will take place.

[@intensecatz4544]

Ok, I agree with your theory, but what about this: Herobrine is the last surviving Builder, and years of isolation have caused him to hate players. The Enderman are builders that evolved, but over time forgot their building techniques. They attack people who look at them because they consider themselves superior. A new race was born, but they are very simple, and therefore rely on the guardians that were created by the Builders. (Think about it. Iron Golems are covered in vines and are clearly ancient.) From them, another race is born (The Players). The Player is then spotted by Herobrine, who thinks they are one of the long lost Builders and is angry because he thinks he was alone. He attacks the Player using long-forgotten magic, and the two battle for years. The Illagers are servants of Herobrine who are a subspecies of Villagers and are far more evolved. They 'raid' villages hoping to find and kill the Player. During the battle, the Player discovers the temples and learns about the history of the world. Now the Player goes to the Nether and finds the fortress. All over the fortress are signs of life, but the only life forms here are Blazes and Wither Skeletons. The Blazes are spirits of war and are commanded by the Wither Skeletons, who (I agree with you on this) are Builders who were infected. The infections spread to the overworld, losing strength in the portal. After defeating the Wither, the Player finds another clue. An Enderman (Because in the new update Endermen are in the Nether) some of the Endermen found a way out of the End, but are still stuck in the Nether, and can only travel to the Overworld when the moon is up. The Player travels to the end, hoping to free the Endermen only to find that they are serving the last surviving Ender Dragon after they slew the rest of the species. Now, after destroying the last Dragon, the Player regains all the knowledge of the past (What if exp. is knowledge?) and attempts to subdue Herobrine, and now we're at the present...

[@drakebloodknight7981]

...Yes. Good. Very good. God I hope the movie is as good as this.

[@intensecatz4544]

@@drakebloodknight7981 me too

[@jayevans7854]

In the enderman video, you noted how there was a flaw in why there was certain loot in the chests that are located in end cities. But the theory at 6:50 would explain that. If they were learning about enchantments, the ancient people would most likely teach or show them with armor as to not look like they were going to attack, and not give them any weapons to attack them with. Also, trade is one of the first things developed by people, so I’m going to assume that went on in the over world. That would explain the unenchanted items in those chests.

[@gtbjay9495]

Who would've thought that a game where you literally just build stuff would have so much lore

[@theinternetofficer6594]

1, its all speculative, nothing is set in stone and 2, its a sandbox survival game, what do you mean youre surprised it has lore? Have u ever seen subnautica?

[@Vize_David0404]

In the end, even mojang said that it’s up to the player to create their own lore

[@Ashacarlosalbert]

​@@Vize_David0404yeah, it was confirmed

[@samueldimmock694]

It's a game where you literally just build stuff. The lore is one of the things that you build, and the game sensibly provides you with resources to build it from - just like it provides you with resources to help if you ever want to build your own video game (like command blocks).

[@ShadoZP]

Ocean monuments could have been made with only such little gold to show how unadvanced the civilization was at the time of construction. The monument could have been built before there was ocean. Since there were eventually crashed ships and other temples above surface and nether fortresses, it seems like 8 gold blocks seems a bit too much to build a whole monument for them (as you said). It could represent how primitive the civilization was at the time of constructions, and the ocean monuments are older than everything else. Could even go as far to draw the connection that in nearly every culture in the real world, a great flood came and destroyed everything before it. Though ofc this doesnt explain guardians, shipwrecks, and such. Just a comparison I drew

[@CivicallyNotDan]

Lol

[@benismann]

Or... The biggest treasure in the monuments is SPONGE like really, u can't find it outside the monuments

[@ShadoZP]

@@benismann that's true I forgot sponges were in there

[@benismann]

@@ShadoZP everyone forgets about sponges

[@rylanfait9109]

it shows that the worth of gold could have been much greater because gold may have been very scarce.

[@am-180]

this has almost certainly been brought to you attention but in the minecraft bestiary art guardians are visibly mechanical

[@tiernan9353]

Here's an idea: the players inhabited the world, but factions of them grew greedy (especially for gold). Those who went after gold were cursed to look like pigs, and exiled to the nether.

[@geegoflex6762]

I would like to think gold was used as money because of how useless it is in actually crafting.

[@ShaileshKumar-nh7mh]

I think they were just some mammals who went to nether and evolved there but they were not nether inhabitants That's why they are not fire resistant, they evolved into two hoglins and piglins, piglins were intelligent and they know how to craft do they created armours, weopons and bastions when ancient civilizations meeted them they become friends and ancient civilizations gave them iron and diamond, which was helpful for piglins, thay can craft crossbow which was more powerful than golden swords(it wasn't crafted ancient civilizations because skeletons don't know how to use crossbows) and diamond gear can be used in emergency but some people starts destroying bastions and stealing stuff, some Piglins and hoglins even went to overworld and they become zombies, no one wants that there species become zombies and zoglins were hostile to everything so our species was a problem for them but piglins were blinded by greed so some strong and brave piglins became piglin brute and that's why they are always hostile to player and

[@PyroFTB]

It's like I'm watching a Game Theory video except you don't make unfunny jokes every few minutes

[@RetroGamingNow]

MatPat is ok, but tbh it really does feel designed for humor. I'm not bashing it, but I prefer the slower-paced, thoughtful approach

[@Joe_Potts]

@@RetroGamingNow i like both styles tbh. Though i think the gametheory style of animation / description does a little bit more to make people understand the "idea" MP is talking about by showing it and describing it, instead of just describing your ideas and putting up background footage like most people would. Not to say that i think your style is crappy, not at all! You do a better job with your theory crafting than a lot of other channels do, and i love it. I just think gametheory has had more time to figure out more powerful ways of getting viewers to understand what's being said. /shrug

[@actic555]

Yes, I have really had a problem with his 'jokes' and whatnot. The jokes are quite cringeworthy, even when he's self-aware about it. I don't think MatPat is a terrible person, he's a good man. I think he's... well, a kinda good-but-can-do-bad-person (Coronavideo virus as evidence). I still really like his videos on Minecraft, and other games.

[@myozx2112]

it’s like I’m watching game theory but it’s not shit

[@shroomer8294]

It does have some of the same problems as GT in my opinion. Just because two things share qualities doesn’t mean they necessarily are connected. For example: A. end cities have been built by someone. B. endermen can move blocks. Therefore endermen must have made the end cities despite there being nothing in the actual game that supports this. Endermen are never seen to built these cities, collect the resources used to built these cities or even have any type of interaction with the end cities. It’s just endermen live in the end, end cities are in the end therefore end cities must have been built by endermen. It’s kinda like how he said in his previous theory that shulkers make enderpearls. Nothing in the game supports this, he just made a connection to serve the theory. If there isn’t anything in the actual source that supports the theory the theory doesn’t hold up.

[@Merkuse]

I have a theory that underwater monument is actually a gigantic mobile submarine, and those gold blocks in its heart is actually its core, used to operate it. Underwater monument is their peak in technology. That also explains why they could so easily create robot guardians

[@dava8058]

I miss the day where people claimed herobrine is the reason of every structure exist

[@chillfactory9000]

Honestly, he could become apart of lore

[@imafin9439]

@@chillfactory9000 he may

[@ritsh_]

Herobrine has existed but is deleted in the 1.15.3 update or something

[@MakerManX]

@@ritsh_ Correction: Every update

[@bean40]

Can you please do a theory about the ancient bones and fossils found underground? What kind of creatures lived before the player spawns?

[@ayan8136]

Giant

[@MarcoMa210]

It may be giant zombies fossils

[@phoenixgaming-plakadrakes6235]

It's likely that it's the Giant Zombie, which is a secret hidden mob with no AI on the Java Edition

[@bean40]

@@phoenixgaming-plakadrakes6235 that’s a good thought, maybe it is

[@josephcrews6423]

Maybe nether dinos?

[@superseahawk4296]

Bro the freakin Ancient Minecraft would be more fun than the one we spawn in.

[@doges_6864]

I would pay someone to make a mod about that

[@australium7374]

Actually if your being honest if we went backwards by like 10,000 years we would spawn in a world of empires and domination. With builders and netherite being easier to mine. Think about how connected the world would be

[@Markoski_]

truuuuee bro that actually sounds sick

[@dwoopy_cwybb_bunny]

@@doges_6864 that would be freaking awesome!!

[@dwoopy_cwybb_bunny]

@@australium7374 so cool

[@audrey2658]

It literally all just clicked in my head. Eyes of ender are canonically (in dungeons) on the HEART of endersents (even if theyre really an eye). The heart of the sea is actually an EYE. Both of these eyes come from different species, with the eyes of ender most likely coming from the warden's original creature (before being revived with 3 souls, its eyes removed to make them more alert for sound of the wither approaching) and the eye of the sea coming from an ancient underwater creature thats now extinct. Most likely the hostile squid monster from the last mob vote

[@lilianagarces6200]

These theories: smart good interesting What I though minecraft was: *A square dude killing weird monsters that want to kill him and he somehow punched wood because of yes and got to be a pro at surviving*

[@nether322]

me too...^^

[@thebigtomato0597]

the story of S Q U A R E B O I who decided to break his knuckes on a tree and go up the food chain to fight an interdimentional dragon

[@myth4663]

I've compiled a bunch of theories and questions about this series so I'm just going to repost them in one on all these videos to increase the odds of them getting answered or maybe even made into videos 1. Do you think somewhere in the minecraft world there's a lost disk called disk 12? 2. something I want to know is what a respawn anchor is supposed to be because respawning is not something that actually happens in universe but with the bed its obvious that the actual in universe use is just for sleeping but the respawn anchor only sets a spawn point so what's it actually doing in the context of the world? 3. What are the differences between different forms of undeath? We see Zombies, husks, Zombie villagers, zombie horses, zoglins, zombie pigmen, and drowned who all just have decaying skin. Skeletons, wither skeletons, strays, and skeleton horses who just keep their bones then we see Phantoms who have a more ghost like appearance. Also as an addon to that what is a ghast because I always thought it was a ghost but it isn't so maybe it conveniently evolved like squids or something. 4. Something that I find interesting is that other creatures when inflicted by the zombie virus seem to become mindlessly violent but when horses and piglins become zombified they act mostly normal, with piglins specifically the only differences are they seem to not have the full intelligence of normal piglins because A they don't still trade and B they only spawn with Swords and don't use cross bows. Another weird detail is that zombified piglins are immune to fire which is a huge red flag for a couple of reasons because one normal piglins aren't fire immune but most other undead creatures are particularly weak to fire. Another undead mob that has weird contradictions to most undead mobs are the zombie and skeleton horses which also keep their normal friendliness and seem to be the least far gone of these undead mobs not only being still domesticatable but being even easier to domesticate. I originally assumed that the undead virus only makes humans violent but that is simply not true because Phantoms and the wither are also not friendly. The biggest weird detail in all of this is that other undead mobs seem to still see these creatures as natural allies with skeletons riding skeleton horses and withers never attacking anything that is already undead. 5. I think that the fox is most likely the most intelligent and possibly important mob that's completely a wild animal (meaning it has no building ability, doesn't exist in its own structure, can't trade, and doesn't have the ability to create a full society) I think that because they are one of 6 mobs that sleep (you, villagers, foxes, 3 illigers) which as you established in the Phantoms video is already important they also have the ability to do several other things that very few can do including using totems of undying, enchantments on weapons, and chorus Fruit, and also can sometimes be seen holding emeralds that weren't given to them and seem to care about them a bit more than other non food items which may have even inspired the villagers to hold a similar appreciation for emeralds although that and the rest of this is just speculation I think two possible explanations for this are that they could be some sort of ancestor to either villagers or ancient builders although it's kinda hard to place because they have the emerald connection to villagers but can do other things like defend themselves although it could be a common ancestor for both and then my second idea take a trip even further through speculation town and a bit into the early stages of creepy pasta Avenue with the possibility that they once were villagers or ancient builders (again it's kinda hard to place) who were turned by a magic enemy with the most likely culprit being the illigers but another possibility is that the illigers themselves might have accidentally turned some of there kind into foxes although that's unlikely because foxes are only hostile when something attacks it first and even then tend to prefer running away. Anyway foxes have a ton of weird and specific properties that I'd love to see your interpretations on. So those are all my pitches.

[@AdditionalAndrew5916]

I am impressed! I never thought of Minecraft as a world with its own traditions, history, and lore. I was under the impression that Minecraft was only for building and other things were only there for visual appeal. But after watching two videos, you have changed my entire opinion of the world, and it makes me want to learn more. Outstanding job, and I look forward to watching more.

[@petrus9067]

Well it's all especulation tho. Officially they are meant to serve as a mystery, but it does have consistencies

[@orbismworldbuilding8428]

I thought I'd mention: The heart of the sea texture looks like an enderpearl that was cut and put back together

[@Azarilh]

I mean it's just a sphere.

[@orbismworldbuilding8428]

@@Azarilh true, they do have that as the main feature XD But look at it, it kinda does. Though a problem is it's a bit brighter color than an enderpearl, so maybe enderpearls are filled with a darkness or the end gateway stuff normally, but when removed it's brighter? idk but something worth wondering

[@Azarilh]

@@orbismworldbuilding8428 No. We know that the heart is actually an eye, as we can see the pupil when it's open. Thus it can't be a cut sphere as the line is just the eyelids. And when it's open there is no cut sign.

[@orbismworldbuilding8428]

@@Azarilh It was a hypothetical, atleast as to how it's made. Think of eye of ender, it's made from an enderpearl and is an eye, the heart might be constructed from an enderpearl and opens/looks like an eye after, like the eye of ender does. There isn't a crafting recipe for the heart, but it might have a similar way of crafting it in the first place by the civilization that made it

[@drewwassel3367]

One possible reason the ocean monument is really big for the amount of loot is that the monument had some sort of religious importance to the builders, and the extra space could have been a place where they worshiped some kind of sea god. This could explain the gold in the center of the monument, which could be an offering to this god. I have heard other theories that the monument was on the surface and sunk underwater, but I don’t think that is true because the guardians are specifically designed to work underwater, and the conduit works only underwater, which is the key to the monument.

[@justinontop3071]

i luv the part where u put a coronavirus image over the underwater bomb. lol. I want more of these vids pls :D

[@bigogaming6003]

12:00 bro corona virus lol

[@nwefe]

“there are only two places tnt can naturally generate, shipwrecks and dessert temples” what about woodland mansions?

[@abizarreyoutuber6317]

Dessert temples.. Yum

[@tenthbasilisk88]

Woodland mansions aren’t part of this theory because we already know that they were built by the illagers not the ancient builders

[@bland287]

@@tenthbasilisk88 correct

[@bland287]

@@tenthbasilisk88 Im excited to see...how did the illagers even learn? They dont seem like they can talk

[@charanyarajan4303]

"It's an orb" And no matter what perspective you look at it from, that's strange

[@Oooze3424]

something I notice is just how recent the sunken ships are, all the damage is from impacts, battle, or something along those lines. the food isn't always rotten, books, clothes, and paper are still perfectly intact. these wrecks haven't been sunk for long.

[@familyp4516]

"These aren't little boats made up of 5 wood" Mobile players: no there not made up of five wood. There made up of five wood and one wooden shovel.

[@amvymavy]

Not mobile players, but bugrock players

[@drev9728]

Bedrock you mean?

[@amvymavy]

@@drev9728 I call them bugrock

[@redrealite]

@@amvymavy Minecraft pocket edition and bedrock edition are the edition with different name tho

[@amvymavy]

@@redrealite They were pocket edition but now its replaced by Bedrock Edition. The edition that is pretty much in every single platform. Maybe not Linux, and I don't know about MacOS either

[@davidsousapinto8318]

Something else to support this theory: During the event where the players could vote for a mob to be added, where the Phantom won, there was an actual Sea Monster, much like some kind of giant squid, that would most likely work as a Miniboss or even a full fledged boss. Again, SEA MONSTER

[@KingtonyXCIV]

RetroGaming: you can't force your way into the monument because of mining fatigue. Luke TheNotable: I don't have such weakness.

[@armaniherrera6584]

Retro: in this video we will figure out who built those buildings Notch: well first i had to type some numbers into a computer

[@WillmacLMCD]

The 8 gold blocks were meant for a notch apple, maybe the builders tried to achieve magical power by making notch apples, as the illagers do with totems

[@gnk-seriespowerdroid4405]

Ah that old recipe

[@piotrdaniel3829]

Kinda looks like a ocean monument but bigger

[@toucan6109]

@@gnk-seriespowerdroid4405 dunno why they removed it

[@gnk-seriespowerdroid4405]

@@toucan6109 well with gold farms these days they could probably have hundreds of enchanted gapples without having to put much effort

[@toucan6109]

@@gnk-seriespowerdroid4405 same with regular golden apples, beacon pyramids, piglin trading and cleric trading. So I don't see why not

[@alexmonster6594]

It's also interesting that the top level of the dessert pyramids is perfect for a full beacon that can give similar effects to a conduit

[@harrietyes]

Zombies have the same clothes Steve wore, so that's even more reason to believe that they used to be builders. Then, miraculously, the player spawns, and the undead mobs think that this is a builder who could have saved them. REVENGE.

[@vpm69]

If the zombies thought the player was their saviour, why would they attack them?

[@lyrikage5468]

Imagine the zombies are past spawns of Steve

[@jennifercallens9872]

What if the zombie sickness afected the builders to so that killed all of them off builders. so the builders are now zombies or/and Skellitons

[@jennifercallens9872]

@astronomicalindie you got a like

[@jennifercallens9872]

@@vpm69 you got a like

[@rubiitoxic]

I am interested in that theory, video please.

[@matiasbosques3002]

I second this

[@CivicallyNotDan]

@@matiasbosques3002 i third this

[@black_lake3382]

@@CivicallyNotDan I fourth this

[@PhantomOfficial07]

@Egg Egg egg egg I eighty-eighth this

[@Dergy]

2:44 can we talk about that one tall grass on the sandstone

[@nosrac1234]

Thought: the monuments used to be on land but ocean levels went up absorbing them In water

[@drsharkboy6568]

Hopefully, Mojang adds some large sea monster boss that drops a heart of the sea and a bunch of prismarine to confirm this. I mean, where the heck did these builders get prismarine in the first place? It’s not a known material irl, and it kinda looks like scales to me, so maybe the ocean monuments are literally built from the remains of giant sea monsters, who are probably still out there, albeit rarer, evidenced by their terrifying calls. Perhaps this boss will naturally spawn every now and then in any ocean biome, after a certain number of days. It can’t destroy blocks, so no worries about your builds, but it would be a mighty foe. It could have almost as much health as the ender dragon, and it may inflict mining fatigue, in addition to dropping something that could be brewed into a potion of mining fatigue, to explain how the elder guardians are engineered to inflict that effect. It may also shoot powerful beams, more powerful than even the elder guardian. Perhaps it looks similar to the guardians except less mechanical and more fish like. What do you think of that idea?

[@jupiter6593]

It’s a great idea

[@AShatteredDragonsSpirit]

I love this idea. We have a boss for the End, a boss for the Nether, we're soon getting a boss for the caves deep underground... So we need a deep ocean boss.

[@dr.ramilo84]

13:02 That's because they ARE mechanical! The mobestiary (a official cononical book) shows them as actual mechanical beings

[@NickAndriadze]

Yes, Conduit and drounds. Do you sometimes notice them holding nautilus shells, one of the most important components of the conduit recipe? And yes, in my opinion, Ocean monuments are the most important structures, but only for them, because it's their temples, their ritualic buildings. it's just part of their diverse religion and culture, that's why they guard and defend it the most. But that's just my theory, A GaMe tHeOrY!!!!! lololololol :D !

[@Meatgrinder945]

Me: sees a dutch ship from 1700 Dutch me: G E K O L O N I S E E R D

[@eligibbard1439]

There was once a human mob that existed in the game. It was the first mob ever added but it didn't spawn naturally it had to be summoned by the player. All they did was run around though. The human mob was the Steve modle. The zombie is a human so its cannon that the humans died out.

[@Azarilh]

Considering that zombies ( except husks ) all have the same clothes, i'd say that they are failed attempts to create Steve from Illagers. Zombies continuously spawn because illagers still make experiments.

[@Azarilh]

This actually reminds me of Attack On Titan and titans sent to the isle. xD

[@pepearown4968]

@@Azarilh Husk clothes likely changed colors from sandstorms or something like that, that ruined the coloration of their clothes.

[@lasercraft32]

The official "mobeastiary" book also implies that Guardians are mechanical, just for the record (though its not confirmed canon).

[@VendPrekmurec]

Villagers are descendants of these pirates who have ended up on different isles and built simple villages. Monuments were created by different species, besides of humans.

[@Strdyaftrnoon]

Nah villagers are too soft to be pirates😂 I'd say illagers could be pirates like Vikings

[@ruffruggednraw]

Fun fact: sometimes when I play Minecraft in survival mode, I would find and live in a desert temple and transform it into a house instead of just making my own house

[@catharinebrooks3396]

He talks so sophisticated! I agree with what he’s saying, though there may be more on Endermen.

[@billybobjoejacksonjr2006]

I'd love for RGN to make an April fools video diving 8nto the lore of something like "your mom gay" and coming up with something completely ridiculous as a conclusion

[@princepepe4049]

Above water guardians look like a clockwork toy which adds on to your theory that they are mechanical

[@amanemisaki4046]

a small modification to the theory that would make both this theory and the turned-to-endermen theory possible is that the extinction event was slow, slow enough that some of the people made it to the end, but most died before they could get there

[@Ditidos]

Interesting, I kind of agree. However, there is great evidence for the villagers being the builders of the desert piramids. After all, these use the same blocks as desert villages and, unlike the other temples, these aren't complicated traps at all, they don't even require knowledge of redstone to do. Villagers already know about gunpower (since they trade them), it could be for potions, sure, but I wouldn't rule out completely that they know about TNT, after all, creepers do explode and they are the only way to get gunpower (other than trade) plus is the only thing they drop. There is also the pillagers, witches and the evokers who are the same species as the villagers and clearly have the capacity for bigger constructions as well as knowledge of more dangerous weapons. This also explain why there are wells in the desert, since they are more modern and used by villagers who wander around the desert. After all, if the wells were so ancient they would have eroded by now. This also makes sense as we don't have evidence of these seafarers having long term habitation of the most extreme biomes, particularly the snow ones as well as the savannas and badlands. Of course, all biomes do have mineshafts but these could have been build by an advanced illager civilization, they may be reworked in the cave update for more diferenciation and the subterranean areas aren't that more dificult to inhabit in deserted areas than in regular areas, al least definetly not in minecraft. Also, the iglu is definetly of villager origin, it has a zombie-villager there and all the ingredients to cure him. Plus, we only know of the illagers having knowledge about potions, well that and the Nether and End civilizations (which I would argue those are due to piglins and endermen respectively).

[@ethanmoon3925]

Yeah, I agree the villagers could have made the temples. I think that in the thriving past, villagers and illagers weren't separate. I think they're both descendants of a much greater civilization, who long ago looked less derpy. The builder civilization had port cities and global trade, religion, and built large structures. The debris from this civilization is so pervasive that literally tredging random parts of the ocean, rivers, and lakes with a fishhook will give you artifacts. I think it's very obvious there was some kind of apocalypse that filled the world with monsters, including turning the humans into zombies. I believe the villagers are scattered remnants, who have become inbred and weird looking due to their small numbers (having a very small gene pool is bad for you). Illagers are just villagers who decided to go Mad Max, blending in with the monsters and embracing the evil that swept over the land. The greatest artifact of that civilisation though, is you. Players look more similar to ancient builders, and have the same intrepid spirit that the demoralized villagers have given up. Players have the strength, intellect, and more importantly the drive to create fresh civilization and reconquer land from the evil.

[@Ditidos]

@@ethanmoon3925 So, you are saying that the player is some sort of backup golem to rebuild civilization or something of the sort?

[@lexark]

I think it’s very likely Illagers built the pirate ships. They have woodland mansions which generate natural TNT, and have outposts that can spawn almost everywhere, affording them the ability to gain the resources go construct them. Additionally, they’re a warrior civilization that travels and attacks villages, having ships to travel go further lands and conquer them makes sense. Plus, woodland mansions are far more complex than villages, indicating a greater capacity for building.

[@warhistoryproductions2039]

You make minecraft some much scarier lol. Instead now when I open a treasor chest and see the heart of the sea. I think EYE OF A BEAST. Or something like that.

[@priyankahazarika2858]

I used to think the heart of the sea was some sort of Pearl with magical powers but now that you pointed it out that it looks like a closed eye I can’t unsee it

[@CrazyBrosCael]

Did you think that it was villagers who built them, but they experienced a dark age, which saw the knowledge being lost? Ya know, LIKE HOW WE HAD A DARK AGE.

[@Gh0stb0yjasppp]

When you take more notes on this than school

[@theslumpis2363]

This feels very close to hinting to 1.17 archeology, glow squids telescope..

[@BlinkyBopsB137]

I find your reasoning to be much more accurate and easier to understand then matpat's. You often take details from the game, explain your thinking, and then tell us what you are thinking, also directly admitting when you are wrong, confused, or forgetting/disregarding something. Matpat's theory's tend to seem far fetched and some things are forgotten or never brought up and rather implyed. He will also make assumptions based on character design or the size of certain objects on such designs which are sometimes superficial or have a direct inspiration or are obviously based on certain other things. Endermen are based off of Slenderman. I've said enough, anyway, I prefer your content.

[@EmorettOfficial]

If you mix the fact that gold is in the center of the ocean monument, and the speculation that gold has magic properties (as pointed out by both MatPat and MCAbnormals), you could definitely be onto something there.

[@fumbleweeddumblecock2360]

I like how all these things were most probably designed by Mojang on the fly just to look cool, but somehow, almost everything you said actually sounds plausible, by some coincidence.

[@levicarpenter5509]

They designed this stuff to give us the tools to build our own lore of story, the lore or story is up to us just like it is up to us to decide what our world becomes

[@Twojstaryszpieg]

Mojang: * Adding wrecked ships to make ocean more cool * Retro: ThEr iS A LOOoRe

[@chrisiscool]

Why is noone saying stuff about mineshafts? Like who builded them?

[@vitoremanuel4374]

The ancient builders

[@ExplodingWaffleZ829]

I think the ones who built the ships are the illagers. Vindicators a responsible for building the ships because the cut down trees with their axe (my theory) and built them. They also are allies with the witch. What foes the witch do? Brew potions, meaning she gave the vindicators water breathing to build ocean monuments. I mean think about it. The possibilities are endless

[@suraulevemec9140]

A thing to consider is that the underwater builders and the sea explorers may not be the same people. Because while it makes sense for stone monuments to survive for a long time, it doesn't for wooden ships. And before you say it's because they are under water, remember that you can also find them on land.

[@KingOfTheRoost]

I’d like to point out that a creature with potential to be added into Minecraft for the Ocean Update, (wasn’t chosen) and it was a squid-like beast that would drag boats underneath the waves with a long tongue and deal loads of damage and drown them. This could be why they had to build larger boats, in addition to hunting them, this could be used for defense during travel. On top of that, these beasts had large eye(s). I am not sure if they had one eye, or two. Either way, they were similarly colored to Heart of The Seas, which could mean that the Heart of The Seas are eyes of these powerful beasts. Also, Guardians are robots. There’s an official Minecraft creature guide which shows their insides which are robotic looking, with wires. I hope this helps with future theories, if you see this, that is.

[@Timeguy]

I feel like the eye particle of the conduit looks a bit like an endereye, the endereye, which looks green has the ability to teleport and the sculk fungus seems to have some kind of wireless capabilities(teleportation) and also has the color green. Is there are possibility for the heart of the sea, to have been infected by the sculk just like the warden?

[@Jessie_Helms]

4:30 Imma pull out my tactical feather next time someone comes after my diamonds

[@iixleii]

I love it when your like the guardians looks similar to them noble thingys, then Corona ✋

[@carrotisalie]

Some of the people who made the monuments could have gone to the nether and become pigmen through evolution, even though this is quite far fetched.

[@CookieandChoco]

other player: temples! I will take the loot RGN: this temples are made by someone, but who? Let's explore it

[@elliotevans7203]

I really like this theory, however I do think that the only thing that would need to be added is where does Prismarine come from?

[@David-fi3oo]

This felt like a acient aliens episode

[@misterminutes4504]

History Channel?

[@Tivali572]

7:36 You forgot the TNT in the fake end portal room in the woodland mansion. But that was definitely built WAY later after that time, because the end portal wasn’t even a thing yet.

[@berryklemmer8717]

the reason these monuments were so big filled with treasures and gold could be because of a religious belief, and the treasures were sacrifices and gifts to some kind of god, or the shipwrecks were some kind of graves like the Vikings did, and they put everything the dead person owned, which can explain the leather armour or gold and iron but not much the treasure maps.

[@Razeacc]

I feel like the ancient builders didnt build the monuments. Instead, a more ancient form of ancient builders built the monuments. This is just a mini theory I thought up while watching, ehe: So, I feel like aside from the Ancient builders, there we Archaic builders who fell long before the Ancient Builders arose. These Archaic builders were similar, but highly different to the Ancient ones. They were the ones who originally found the hearts of the sea and conduits, hiding them away in secret locations while marking them on maps. Using these hearts, they constructed their capital city: the monument. This massive structure would be used to not only act as a massive sleeping den for Archaic builders, but also to protect Gold. Unlike the Ancient builders, the Archaics never discovered the magical properties hidden inside gold (they get better enchants lul), but they were aware of something holy within it. So they worshiped the gold blocks by protecting them in these monuments. Later on, the guardians and elder guardians were made to further protect the Monument. And just like your theory, Retro, the conduits were keys to entering the Monument and nulling out the elder guardian's mining fatigue. Cut to the Ancient builders: The Archaics have already died and are gone. Their structures are far more devastated than the Ancient builder's ruins. The Ancients' only showed decay via moss or cracks, while the Archaics' literally had missing blocks on their ruins. The only exception being the Monument. This might be a stretch, but I think the Elder Guardian's Mining Fatigue effected the land around the monument itself, basically giving Nature mining fatigue when eroding the monument. This lead to it never being damaged at all. Anyways, the Ancients were now exploring the Archaic builder's ruins for treasure maps in hopes of finding treasure (duh). The cannons were meant to fight other rival ancient builders who were also in search for treasure. Since it seems like not a single builder found a heart, they never unlocked the monument, therefor never finding out more about the guardians and whatever lied within. TLDR; there were boomers and millenial builders. Boomers made monument, boomers died. Millenials find maps to enter monument, but never entered monument, millenials died. You are born, the gen z, and you'll probably die too if you're a game journalist lol

[@princepepe4049]

What if players are the only survivors of the ancient builders but are so advanced their consciousness can leave the game environment and change what they look like?

[@mymyrrah]

Loving the videos. You are very good at what you do!

[@RetroGamingNow]

Thank you!!

[@Cooom]

I like the internet historian nod at around 5:19 perfect gentleman pirate Retro

[@samismid3311]

This is how the player's species evolve: Spawn in world, die and they turn into zombies, later years their flesh decay and turn into skeletons. Zombies learned that when they drown, sea kelp evolves them into a different undead mob: Drowned. Anything else, I don't know.

[@weeber2812]

The theory I’ve held for a little while is that the Ancient Builders (now endermen) constructed most structures, but after they summoned the wither & had to retreat to the End, they couldn’t defend the rest of their race, resulting in a zombie apocalypse. Trying to save their species, the remaining Builders constructed test labs (igloos) as remote places to try to discover a remedy, but their remedy only worked on the simple minds of villagers. Then, they retreated to the islands with ships, but when corrupted Builders infected others, they sunk. The Builders then built ocean ruins as Drowneds, & the few that survived attempted to make themselves stronger & more powerful by implementing lapis lazulite & diamonds into their own brains, creating the Illager race. The very few surviving Builders finally retreated to the Deep Dark, but, because of the experiments done on Blazes (endermen/wither origin story), villagers (zombie apocalypse theory), and themselves (illagers), their souls could not rest & so were transformed into Skulk, but not before they created a final guardian should any apocalyptic event happen again - sacrificing their souls, they created the Wardens.

[@mischake]

I'd lovd to see an update that brings villagers up to player level: crafting, building, traveling, like you're just one of millions of people in this place, ehat makes you special is your achievements, eventually, but not your abilities.

[@thatalbinofurry6855]

I feel as if the Guardians are bio-mechanical rather than completely mechanical, perhaps a modified pufferfish that they sealed in a prismarine skin for defense, and that they engineered to have the eye laser. Would explain why they sometimes drop raw fish. That wasn't just some random thing they had on them, that was recent prey that wasn't digested yet.

[@samchassar-hesketh3511]

I have to say, my theory for ancient builders is more similar to that of Game theory. The builders became the endermen (by something I’ll call a virus), but it wasn’t instant, the builders noticed it and set out to discover a cure. They built massive woodland mansions and outposts to defend their research from others, and looked at how to counteract the virus, they tested it on other mobs and so on and so fourth… eventually they found out how to make totems of undying, the virus continued to spread and wreak havoc on the world, portals where closed and destroyed, trying to limit the spread. Then at the very brink of extinction, the builders got it. Not to save themselves, but to create new life, sentient life that mimics the builders in almost every way, spare a complete immunity to the virus. Unfortunately they were unable to ever summon new life, the virus took over and the endermen were all that remained. Over many years, new societies formed, including the villagers. A once powerful and bristling society, turned fragmented when individuals seeking great power found the ancient mansions, the evil power there still held some of the virus within it, the villagers however, where effected in a different way, getting greying skin and the ability to use some magic. In one mansion, they find totems of undying, and these are given to the highest ranking of illager. (Hence why they can only be found by evokers). In another mansion, they find the work of the builders and how to create life, they see this as an opportunity to create the ultimate form of power. They set to work and then the player spawns. The theory kinda jumbles at the end but if love it if you checked it out RGN

[@hinatanaki9120]

him: a giant squid me: what about a glowing squid?

[@raiders5980]

RGN - Only if u have heart of the sea then u can raid a monument. Speedrunner - *hold my render distance*

[@JavaSteel]

4:19 I visited that exact same building and saw that ship in the harbor only two weeks ago while visiting Amsterdam! I was like, hold on for 1 second... I know that ship! I even took a picture of it. What are the chances of coming across this picture in a random minecraft video? I feel like I live in the matrix now lmao. The building is called the NEMO Science Museum, for anyone wondering.

[@raveneight3189]

I really like how your introduction sounds like the intro to The Twilight Zone

[@the-banana-0verlord]

I like to think that the ancient builders build the monuments outside water for a god of some sort they worshipped. During a cataclysm, they would have been submerged underwater( the same cataclysm that would have potentially made the ancient builders flee or go extinct) and the guardians, a native predatorial specie would have established themselves in there because it was simply convenient. it doesn’t really explain the conduit tho

[@makatadaito1351]

They keep asking who exactly those zombie Steve. Then just remember that there's an old minecraft ver where this many weird Steve duplications start to appear and remove instantly so that's probably the case

[@Eldagusto]

I think the end might be a space time situation, and life naturally interacts with space time different there, like a higher dimensions. I think the builders used the armor in the end and I think the endermen dwell in communities far deeper in the end and we only see the outskirts .

[@Teatur_]

I know I’m really late to the party here but I just wanted to point out that endermen seem to be able to shift between the nether, the over world, and the end at will. If they popped into the nether moved a couple blocks and popped out, it would appear is if they were teleporting. I think they created the nether portals to allow the “ancient builders” or whoever came before us to travel there as well. Another thing is that the nether portals are black and purple which happens to be the same color as an enderman and it’s eyes.

[@nicolasvergara6003]

I wouldn't say the guardians are mechanical but rather synthetic, since this hypothesis fits very well with the magic behind the summoning we can already see in Minecraft (emphasis on the vexes). Guardians seem to have more similarities with vexes than golems, assuming they where made by other entities, because golems are rather souls who possessed objects (an iron statue, a bunch of snow) but vexes are *whole* entities including their anatomical bodies summoned for a sole purpose (attacking and defending respectively for both). Another reason why the idea of guardians being mechanical doesn't fit in my head is because they don't have an inorganic nor machine-like body, they have animal/human eyes and a tail. Sure, their skin being similar to primarine, a building block, and the fact that they drop it when killed can contradict this idea, except would it? it makes sense once you consider the idea of prismarine being organic, grown from the guardians themselves, this explains why elder guardians present ageing symptoms with the desaturation of their skin and could potentially be an explanation on why do prismarine blocks slowly change colour over time and that prismarine blocks can activate conduits.

[@scibanana3542]

You know what else shipwrecks resemble? End City ships!

[@JTPineapple]

what if endermen live in the end but send explorers out into the overworld and nether to gather supplies. kind of like maze runner at the beggining where they all live inside but send brave explorers out to find a way out

[@joelhoon1707]

17:00 More importantly, why is the only good teasure sponges? Also, I'd like to say that the name of the Heart of the Sea suggests that it brings life to the ocean. The Conduit activates this power, and I feel like Guardians are just interested in the Conduit and weren't actually programmed by their builders to be attracted to Conduits. Conduits then sense the destruction that Guardians cause to innocent animals like fish and beam them to death. Remember, Hearts of the Sea supposedly bring life. Also sometimes Drowned hold the hearts so I guess the Drowned are what happened to the builders. And remember, zombies are zombies. They seem to be infected by a plague.

[@breznknedl]

a big squid being a moster explain the guardians unconditional hate for squids

[@Sleeping_possum]

Been watching your minecraft teories for more than a hour feeling curious

[@cybertiger6009]

Great video, I just wish that you would've tried to anwser the "what were their purpose" question about them, they all have religious connotations to them so a theory would be nice.