The Secularisation of Western Freedom | Mark Sneddon & Dr. Sarah Irving-Stonebraker |

In this short, Mark Sneddon and Sarah Irving-Stonebraker discuss the foundational principles of western freedom, particularly in relation to the religious history of indigenous spiritualism. However, as the transcendent narrative of Christianity has eroded, it has been replaced by a will to power concerned primarily with systems of oppression.
You can view the full conversation here - • On Religious Freedom |...
Mark Sneddon is a lawyer and academic with experience in commercial, not-for-profit and government sectors. Mark was formerly Associate Professor of Law at the University of Melbourne Law School, and a senior lecturer at Monash University Law School in constitutional law, banking and financial services, e-business, and communications law.
He was a partner at the law firm Clayton Utz for nearly 12 years, and served as Crown Counsel to the Victorian Attorney-General and Office of the Premier for four and half years. These days Mark practices in Melbourne and is the Executive Director of a leading think tank, the Institute for Civil Society.
Dr. Sarah Irving-Stonebraker is Senior Lecturer in Modern European History, and teaches in the History and Political Thought major at Western Sydney University. She was awarded her PhD in History from Cambridge University and her first book was awarded The Royal Society of Literature and Jerwood Foundation Award for Non-fiction. Recently her research has revolved around the history of religious liberty in the West, and also in Australia.
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[@IK-wc4od]

Secular meant any denomination of Christian, that was the intention of the letter of the law in schools and everywhere else. Our ancestors never conceived that we'd import wholesale foreign cultures and give them equal status.

[@nzr4699]

" as the transcendent narrative of Christianity has eroded, it has been replaced by a will to power" - John, you nailed it in this sentence. I've always thought that the German film 'Triumph of the Will' was a statement of a post-Christian morality, rather than just the title of a doco about the Berlin Olympics.

[@nyleadamson1834]

If God puts on your heart to do something and your government says no who are you going to listen to

[@davidhawley1132]

Considering that you might be wrong. There obviously is a balance between religious freedom and the norms the state will enforce. A certain humility on both sides is certainly called for.

[@richardmagee9928]

Give to what is Caesar's Caesar, to what is God's God.

[@ArnoWalter]

It's actually pretty simple. The way you act in foreign politics, will sooner or later come back home. Because you normalized that behavior. The way you treated your poorer neighbors (like Timor) and the way you handled the migrants, is basically the blueprint for how you now treat your own population. Your actions reflect your true ideology.

[@mayormccheese6171]

Dedicated atheism is a religion unto itself. It takes true philosophical fortitude to believe there is nothing out there in the infinite cosmos more existentially powerful than oneself.

[@stephenw2992]

There are lots of things more powerful than oneself, but they are physical, not supernatural. Its takes zero dedication to not make up stories about how you are a special creation of some fanciful creature

[@mayormccheese6171]

@@stephenw2992 you're 100% sure then in this cosmos and the infinity of others besides there are no realities or planes of existence greater than your little corner of the universe? Wow, that takes real conviction.

[@stephenw2992]

@@mayormccheese6171 You talk a lot of science for someone that believes the universe was created 6 thousand years ago on the whim of some creator, that then got upset with his creation and banished us all to a life of misery because he is a loving god

[@mayormccheese6171]

@@stephenw2992 you clearly need more religious education if you think all religious people believe the creation myth to be a scientific fact.

[@stephenw2992]

@@mayormccheese6171 If you are going to concede some of your beliefs to science, then why not all of them. There is no evidence for the supernatural at all. Why would you claim otherwise other than due to faults in your own psychology?

[@mattdugas]

Reality check...if Mother’s Earth 🌏, who’s your Daddy!?

[@nyleadamson1834]

Especially to see my own comments

[@nyleadamson1834]

I can’t read sign language but I’ll bet it’s not good

[@nyleadamson1834]

You also have to account for the entire written story of all of your thoughts

[@MrMattias87]

religion isn't the only factor, enlightenment is the main one that steered western freedom and democracy

[@KeithCindyPanama]

When a country forget that they are under God then they fall down under- Ronald Reagan

[@nyleadamson1834]

Do United States allows Christians to thrive

[@CSUnger]

Yes, but within a clearly secular environment. Christianity in America still does enjoy an easy going tolerance as a religious pursuit but in no other sphere of the society is it allowed influence on its own merits.

[@nyleadamson1834]

Oh mighty God said that we were the flavor of the earth

[@1969cmp]

....and those that loose their flavour will be trodden into the ground. As our age gets darker, let His light burn brighter.

[@AlejandroRamos-im4to]

It was said by Jesus. He described the JEWS as "salt of the earth". Salt is a PRESERVATIVE. What Jesus meant is that the JEWISH people was chosen by God so humankind could afford salvation through them by the blood of the Messiah Yeshua.

[@1969cmp]

@@AlejandroRamos-im4to ....He was talking to His followers specifically.

[@arminius504]

@@AlejandroRamos-im4to nonsense

[@AlejandroRamos-im4to]

@@1969cmp your ignorance about the matter is obvious.

[@benaiahwright937]

Sooo this means a hot war is coming. 🤔

[@hemlock527]

Insofar as all transcendent narratives are born out of the human relationship with mortality, and we see that we truly are responsible for the narratives, and that its our relationship with time, nothing, being, that is the basis of human freedom, the basis of the individual and of the community, we will continue to miss how mortal freedom is, and thus how its mortality is the basis of all spirituality and all moral systems. Not Plato's immortal soul and all the traditions born of it. Wonder and existential curiosity begins on earth when humans started burial practices. We have all the rich potential of the most unifying spirituality in the fact that we die. Instead we do everything in our power to ignore that most common and unifying of all things. The Public Square is the most Sacred of all realms and gods. We don't need to ground our freedom in a transcendent realm, but in the dirt of our mortality. We all share in that "tradition", all of us.

[@nyleadamson1834]

Put your hands down you creepy Jedi

[@larkascending]

I lost a lot of interest at "Judeo-Christian".

[@alternativeavenues7664]

Why?

[@nicohill-eh4lx]

Richez

[@CKD3332]

STOP SAYING JUDEAO-CHRISTIAN, IT'S CHRISTIAN BELIEF. Christianity is NOT a religion like the others who have rules and superstition. "Love they neighbour" has nothing to do with religion, it's about a spiritual rebirth to understanding that everyone has a soul. We are not merely flesh. Christianity sits in its own category of whether it's Thee Supreme Truth or it is not.

[@CSUnger]

I prefer the term “Biblical”. The term “Christian” has become loaded with misconceptions due to the plethora of diverse and more often than not, incorrect examples of it to be of any use in designating anything the average listener can relate to.

[@scout2469]

It's quite ridiculous to give credit to the New Testament for the concept of love thy neighbor, it comes from the Torah, Lev:19:18. More then 1,200 years before the plagiarism of the NT.

[@brendanscully5787]

you're cooked......