The Serpent-Seed Theory

[@papajoefortner1817]

Thank you pastor Brian for answering my question. You gave such a full answer to my question. Again thank you and God bless you and church

[@ToYouFilthyDreamers-eu1xx]

Like you, this man is completely Biblically illiterate, remains spiritually dead, blind, lost, and deceived. Repent of your fake christianity, both of you!

[@DeletedShadowbanned-m5u]

Like you, this man is completely Biblically illiterate, remains spiritually dead, blind, lost, and deceived. Repent of your fake christianity, both of you!

[@jameslewis5098]

I don’t know what I think and don’t have a final answer or am convinced either way - but go read the parable of the tares where there is the seed planted by God and the seed planted by the devil. ALSO read Christ’s explanation of it to the disciples AND read it “plainly” as you suggest. Also “Don’t uproot the tares” is the instruction. A similar instruction is given concerning Cain, no? Again I don’t know for sure, but there is more to bring into this discussion.

[@MrWiseinheart]

Good thoughts.. 👍

[@privatepilot4064]

Thank you Pastor Brian! Eyes up! Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the GIFT of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Acts 16:31 "And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Colossians 1:14 "In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:" Salvation is obtained by simply believing in Jesus' death (Blood sacrifice), burial and resurrection with all your heart for payment of all your sins, past, present and future.

[@ToYouFilthyDreamers-eu1xx]

Sorry, you do not understand the gospel/salvation of the Bible. You only understand the false gospel, and fake salvation of the apostate church. Repent!

[@Buzz-rh4dz]

​@ToYouFilthyDreamers-eu1xx got some scripture to go with that, or are you just running your mouth?

[@privatepilot4064]

@ Repentance is simply a change of mind in believing the Gospel. Romans 3:20-26 “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the RIGHTOUSNESS WHICH IS BY FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST UNTO ALL AND UPON ALL THEM THAT BELIEVE: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; BEING JUSTIFIED FREELY BY HIS GRACE THROUGH THE REDEMPTION IS IN CHRIST JESUS: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD, to declare HIS RIGHTOUSNESS for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time HIS RIGHTOUSNESS: that he might be just, and the JUSTIFIER OF HIM WHICH BELIEVETH IN JESUS.”

[@ToYouFilthyDreamers-eu1xx]

@@privatepilot4064 ,...Yes, repentance is a change of mind, however, the Bibles repentance is a change from all the manmade unbiblical deceptions of the Godless world and 100% apostate church to the actual truth of the Bible. The spiritually dead (ALL the people of the world/church) cannot believe the gospel. They ALL being spiritually dead and blind can only be deceived by the antichrist gospel of the apostate church as you have been. Again, you do not understand the gospel of the Bible, you only understand the false gospel of the 100% apostate church. You have not repented to truth, but only to another false manmade lie and deception. The entire Godless world is filled with those who have repented and changed their beliefs from one thing to another. The problem is, as it is in your case, they only go from one false manmade unbiblical deception to another slightly different one. The only ones who correctly repent to the truth of the Bible are the very, very, very few who Jesus came to save. And they only repent AFTER Jesus has already saved them and made them spiritually alive. The spiritually dead (all the people of all the churches) have only gone from one manmade fraud to another one. No one who has repented correctly (been saved by Jesus) will ever be found in anything known as the church. Jesus's church is a spiritual church, NOT a physical church!

[@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe4284]

@@privatepilot4064 ,...Yes, repentance is a change of mind, however, the Bibles repentance is a change from all the manmade unbiblical deceptions of the Godless world and 100% apostate church to the actual truth of the Bible. The spiritually dead (ALL the people of the world/church) cannot believe the gospel. They ALL being spiritually dead and blind can only be deceived by the antichrist gospel of the apostate church as you have been. Again, you do not understand the gospel of the Bible, you only understand the false gospel of the 100% apostate church. You have not repented to truth, but only to another false manmade lie and deception. The entire Godless world is filled with those who have repented and changed their beliefs from one thing to another. The problem is, as it is in your case, they only go from one false manmade unbiblical deception to another slightly different one. The only ones who correctly repent to the truth of the Bible are the very, very, very few who Jesus came to save. And they only repent AFTER Jesus has already saved them and made them spiritually alive. The spiritually dead (all the people of all the churches) have only gone from one manmade fraud to another one. No one who has repented correctly (been saved by Jesus) will ever be found in anything known as the church. Jesus's church is a spiritual church, NOT a physical church!

[@85rockhound]

Thank you, Pastor. Timely teaching.

[@colleentimeisup]

Thank you Pastor. God bless you.

[@nanadeborah8717]

Thank you for your explanation. Hapy New Year!

[@rogerlindsey1973]

I want to touch on one point that was made that I disagree with (the whole theory of a sexual relationship between ANYONE in this story is just unfounded demonic deception), but the point that I want to touch on is that Adam and Eve actually DID die the moment they ate the fruit. You have to remember that man is a three-part being: body, soul, and spirit. The body is the outside part (the shell that contains the real you), the soul is who you are (the mind, will, and emotions), and the spirit is the portion of you that exists forever (either alive with God in heaven, or dead and separated from God in hell). The SPIRIT of Adam and Eve died when they ate the fruit, and that's why they were banished to earth from the garden. And that is why man, without Jesus' sacrifice for them and their repentance, goes to hell. The dead spirit is passed down through the seed of man and that is why Jesus had to be born of a virgin with God as His Father. That's the only way that He would be an acceptable sacrifice for us and be able to pay our sin debt. If you have realized reading this that you need to be made right with God, just tell Him. The words don't matter if you are truly repentant. And to repent doesn't mean that you stop sinning, it means that you have changed your mind, both about your sin (the fact that you ARE a sinner), and your need to be made into a new creature in Christ by Jesus Himself. Know that I am praying for you, both now and in the future. Be blessed, in Jesus' name.

[@blessed.2233]

In the day that you eat of it you shall surely die. A day to God is 1000 years so they didn't make it to that!

[@jerrymarshall2095]

Ur wrong

[@rogerlindsey1973]

​@@jerrymarshall2095How am I wrong?

[@MrWiseinheart]

There is an imply that thru eating and being deceived Eve did pass to Cain the evil of the deceiver. Maybe it wasn't a sexual act but the impact on Cains state of being was from that interaction Eve had with the deceiver.

[@jamesb2034]

Great teaching as always. Keeping to the 66 books of the Bible is absolutely the best approach, especially in mirky areas. I would add though, that there was a death that took place that day. The death was of the spirit of man. When Nicodemus asked Jesus what he must do to enter the kingdom of Heaven, Jesus said, "except a man be born again he shall not enter the kingdom of God". Then Nicodemus said "but I cannot enter my mother's womb again." And Jesus said "I tell you, that which is born of the flesh is of the flesh, and that which is born of the spirit is of the spirit". So, Jesus is saying to Nicodemus, I'm not expecting you to be born again in your flesh, but in your spirit.

[@byronumphress3805]

@2034 Born spiritual dead with Christ and buried with Him in baptism, however The Holy Spirit is not giving until God chooses to do so, Shalom

[@byronumphress3805]

John 3:3-5💧

[@byronumphress3805]

@2034 Also there is more than one level or strengths of The Spirit, As Elijah was asked to be given a double portion,

[@ToYouFilthyDreamers-eu1xx]

This in reality was not good teaching. This man does not understand the Bible.

[@PeteGarcia542]

Great response!

[@llhpark]

Seed of the woman.. Son of man.. "Your father the devil.. since the beginning.. " etc Perhaps Cain's sacrifice was doomed from the beginning.. yet, despite the murder of his brother, exiled with a seal of protection as opposed to taking his chances.. where under the circumstances, or for that matter, any circumstances, was spared from the idea he could ask for mercy. Chain reactions like entropy are indeed rather consequential .. the serpent sentenced to be a serpent thereafter .. Questions for those of us over thirty yet so many answers as though we were four.

[@bradpeterson9325]

Wisdom here well spoken.

[@ToYouFilthyDreamers-eu1xx]

Sorry, you are wrong and are deceived. Repent!

[@wilmabouma6090]

Great explanation.

[@ToYouFilthyDreamers-eu1xx]

This man does not understand the Bible and did not give a good explanation. Repent!

[@theKingsAmbassadors]

@@ToYouFilthyDreamers-eu1xx The Bible says the Garden of Eden had 2 trees already in existence. 2 trees at the same time. BEFORE the conversation between satan and Eve, thus it was not an act or a person but a literal tree

[@DeletedShadowbanned-m5u]

@@theKingsAmbassadors ,..No, The Bible does NOT say that the Garden already had two trees in existence. Here is what the Bible actually says,... Genesis Ch. 2, 9, "And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. 16, And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17, But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Where have I stated that the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil were not real trees? Additionally, if you think that there was some kind of non human spirit being that was the serpent/the devil/satan in the garden, then again, you lack Biblical understanding. The serpent in the garden was eve! The devil/satan was/is eve! There is no such thing as the serpent, the devil, or satan. All these words (serpent/devil/satan) represent eve and the EVEilness that hid in the evil heart of eve. Eve imparted her evilness into all mankind and now the words devil/satan apply to all mankind that all came from eve.

[@saraphena]

The word “tree” certainly can be metaphorical and is used in other places in the Bible to refer to family tree or bloodline. Considering that the people throughout the OT mixed with others, with devastating consequences, to the point that God divorced and banished Israel, I don’t think it’s beyond the realm of possibility at all that this was also the original sin - how sin entered the world and how humans now entered the world via sexual reproduction rather than the breath of God. I also think it explains the origin of homosexuality. Idk, every time I read about Dual Seedline I just know it’s true. AndI think it’s responsible for much of the drama on the world stage today.

[@Thesmokymountainman]

One point- if Eve added “ not to touch” she would have lied. So I believe they were not to touch it. I also do not believe Cain is Satans child. I’ve looked into this decades ago.

[@ToYouFilthyDreamers-eu1xx]

This guy does not understand the Bible. The truth is, there is no such thing as satan. Those who think there is a non human spirit being that is the devil/satan, do not understand the Bible and are not Christians.

[@Tastaliciousful]

I think she asked Adam about it and he explained it, and added “don’t even touch it.”

[@AVoiceCryingintheDesert-tq4vw]

@@Tastaliciousful ,....Both of you repent of your fake christianity. What is wrong with you?

[@Thesmokymountainman]

@ We may never now exactly how it went down, but I believe not touching it was implied by God somehow or she wouldn’t have said it. It’s good to ponder on the word of God.

[@MrWiseinheart]

​@@AVoiceCryingintheDesert-tq4vwthey are talking about the fruit of knowledge... What are you thinking they are talking about?

[@tchby1031]

Really sounded like a great place to be before they messed it all up right. It really sounded like it was an enjoyable life before it all got flushed down the toilet

[@williamkostka3244]

great info. The bible often leaves one with asking more questions because much of the story line is left out…why was esau so quick to sell his birth right to jacob for some stew? because he just killed nimrod and thought he would surely die that same day. Same with Cain’s first wife, where did she come from?? mark 8:24, Jesus spits in the blind man’s eyes and the man replies he sees trees walking around….

[@nathanaelswayne8024]

Hi! Thanks for this video...neat fun discussion. Can you show where the name Lucifer is found? I think the KJV has the name in Isaiah 14, but that doesn't seem to be anywhere else, English or Hebrew. Are there other places where this name is found?

[@lowlyman4christ998]

I don't know brother I have challenges with some things you say. Doing a good Bible study you say is to look at the scripture and such and of course amen. But the scripture does talk about sea to the serpent in context to seed of the woman. So we are talking about actual lineages so I think we would agree it's not symbolic or figurative or spiritualized like there are Offspring there are children there are Generations that we know come through the Virgin Birth by Jesus will be the beginning of firstfruits and have many unto his name and therefore we can not draw extracurricular parallels with the seat of the serpent and understand that to mean there will be generations of it would seem a tainted type of genetics or dna. So it seems that there would have to be a certain kind of understanding that there had to be some kind of reproductive tinkering done to create this seed as the scripture plainly tells us, of the serpent. Another question I would have would be where certain text and scripture talk about as it is written in different books I believe it mentions The Book of Enoch and I believe Joshua as well. So if scripture is mentioned that as a quoted source we could probably consider that source to be proper at least I would actually think that at this point. And there was genetic tampering during the days of Noah and King Jesus himself said the same would happen right before his return and we know that the transhuman movement is trying to live forever trying to gain those promises a different way. And if one takes the mark of the beast in Daniel 70th week salvation is off the table so it would seem there is a change to one's basic structure in terms of being made in God's image and likeness in one's Humanity as they would say. So if genetic tampering was going on in the days of Noah and so it shall be here at the end which I think those good evidence there is that genetic tampering currently we could understand that there is something real and actual and literal to this seat of the serpent described in Genesis 6. You are right we do have to be careful about these things but I do think the question has Merit and is not necessarily reaching in terms of especially the angle of perhaps could cane be of that serpent and able being of Adam and eve. There could be something there but I definitely think there are those who Walk Among Us Who present as human as they say or man, but they are different I believe they are falling they are this seat of the serpent just like John the Baptist and Jesus said you brood of vipers. We know they weren't name-calling especially Jesus because he never sinned. So when he said you brewed a vipers that's something real there and when he said your father is the devil that is something very real there. Let me know what you think and watch one of my KZbin video I try to bless the Brethren daily with encouraging words from God's word with an angle towards Bible prophecy. Jesus bless you brother

[@phearlesspharaoh3697]

The question isn’t so much Bizarre as it is “creepy” 😂 Why is he even thinking about that? “Touching a beautiful creature if you know what i mean” 🤮

[@jamesguiton3969]

If the woman said she was told not to touch jt and she wasn’t told that would that not be a lie? I suppose if this is true you would have to believe that lying wasn’t a sin here? Just a thought because eating of the tree was the first sin for mankind

[@romaricogalvez1024]

Genesis 4:1 already blasts this theory to smithereens. Cain’s real parents were Adam and Eve,but their sin nature was passed down to him. Abel was born next but his sacrifices were pleasing unto the Lord.

[@Ieffmacloud]

I'm sure the reason they hid from God was do to the fact they died spiritually with God. They essentially gave their authority to Satan as he became the god of this world. The curses God laid down are revealing if you look into them. It also set the pace for the coming ages in which the Messiah would take the authority back through the cross and reconcile man back to God through the blood of Jesus. That theory is pretty out there... 😳. Scripture contains the answers to the questions it invokes. 😁

[@With-one-wing]

So you said what you think the serpent seed is not, but never said who/what it was. Is it Judas? Is it the antichrist or beast? Is it Satan himself? Who is the seed or offspring?

[@commentsmatter]

😂man rewatch the video he absolutely does it’s Cain Ables older brother he says it in the beginning

[@v1e1r1g1e1]

There is one old teaching on God, Angels, Humanity, the Fall, etc: God originally created the Angels, in all their various orders and degrees (Ophanim, Seraphim, Cherubim, etc). They were (and still are) immortal and have free will. Lucifer rebelled, taking one third of the Host with him. Those who outright rebelled are not forgiven. They have been judged and are damned. God expelled Lucifer, but Lucifer protested: arguing that God was only more powerful, not morally superior. To prove His justice, and replace the one third who had rebelled, God made this planet to be a kind of testing laboratory, wherein would be the 'soul making' location. Having made Earth (in six literal days) God made Mankind. All human individuals ever born will need to prove their loyalty before admission to Heaven. The human entity is a congruence of physical matter and spiritual 'consciousness' power. But let it be clear: We are not 'spirits'. We are not incarnated pre-existing spirits; we are beings that develop souls over time, via the congruence of spirit power operating in physical flesh. For that restriction to be effective, God made it so that the 'souls' he intended to replace the angels as individual beings would emerge from operation of physical matter... with all the limitations inherent therein. Given that we are beings of flesh and blood, immortality for Mankind was not assured. Lucifer was accorded the freedom to tempt Mankind as severely as he wished. Most of those angels who fell with him are bound to the air of this Earth; still loyal to their Master, Lucifer. As a consequence of the Fall, all humans ever born will die. Worse, all humans ever born will be prone to yield to Evil. Our flesh and blood, once pure and good, is now genetically depraved. Some angels who were loyal to God in the Luciferic Rebellion were appointed to oversee and protect Mankind. These ''Watchers'', left that task and instead chose to breed with Human women. These angels sought to overthrow/thwart God's plan for Mankind and seize the Earth for themselves. Their criminal treachery saw them condemned to the lowest chambers of Hell - 'Torments' in the Greek language. Thereafter, the Flood was brought about, to cleanse Humanity of the hybrid Angel-Humans (the Nephilim). Only those on the Ark were pure bloodline remaining humans. Meanwhile, Mankind's continuing depraved state after the Fall, necessitated God's intervention as Jesus Christ to pay the bloodprice for every fallen human. Those humans who accept Christ's sacrifice, and effectively ''sign on'' to loyalty to God, will receive an immortal glorified body for eternity. In Heaven, the Saved Faithful will replace the Fallen angels.

[@petergouvignon8048]

Your Protology is not correct The text says Gen 2:17 ISV but you are not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, because you will certainly die during the day that you eat from it.” Adam died that day ! your committing eisegesis it does not say he is on a process of dying and would die 900 years later And the Genesis account is not God creating man out of nothing! Gen 2:7 ISV So the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground, breathed life into his lungs, and the man became a living being. He formed the man , the spirt of God was breathed into him and he became a living being, so when Adam ate from the fruit that part of him died ! The spiritual part of him died it was never a physical death

[@byronumphress3805]

And speaking of seeds, Luke 1:35, God’s seed ? Sweet Mother Mary’s egg 🥚 Or The Holy Spirit’s 🥚

[@theespjames4114]

Eve is simply quoting what Adam said to her, certainly God expects Adam to be the head of the women.

[@michaelseay9783]

Except Eve didn’t quote exactly what Adam said. Her info was a bit off.

[@theespjames4114]

@ God never talked to Eve before the fall. God told Adam and Adam told Eve. Adam told Eve not to eat of the fruit then like you would a small child he added another layer of warning “ Don’t even touch it ! Least ye die”.

[@theKingsAmbassadors]

But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 2 Corinthians 11 Paul makes it so clear that the whole things was a trickery of the mind and worldview.🤗

[@DeletedShadowbanned-m5u]

What Paul makes clear here is that there is no such thing as the devil/satan. He tells us here just as the rest of the Bible tells us, the devil/satan is mankind and the evil minds and hearts of mankind. All the evilness and ungodliness of the world has come from nowhere but the evil, corrupt, Godless minds/hearts of mankind.

[@theKingsAmbassadors]

​@@DeletedShadowbanned-m5u Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan 👹came also among them to present himself before the LORD. And the LORD said unto Satan, From where come you? Job 2:1-10 This is obviously not a human being. Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. [2] And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, Matthew 4 There are many more verses that show that satan is a different being to humans and is also not GOD. Be careful of the stuff you randomly read on dodgy websites.

[@ChrisMusante]

Here come the complaints about 'what books are right'. The text DOES mention 'touching'... you missed it. Just like is missed that you have dominion over all the earth and BEFORE it even was... the boogeyman that crawls on the ground. In the Book of Job - which you mentioned - SATAN (ha satan) has a 'job' of 'considering' what it is that someone fears. To fear anything else, including false god's is a SIN. Nothing on the red man's list of reasons were anything to be feared. The point being... what you FEAR will come upon you. This happens because your 'son of man' is corrupted by a woman (lady wisdom, or the Torah) and thus this person will share in the cup of her indignations. Divide the word by the works. There are (2) fathers that vie for kinship of YOU a 'son of man'. This is why the son of man has to repent (Numbers 23:19). The 'relationship' of this 'son of man' is as a door, or gate - accessible to one who is a sheep obedient or in rebellion the door is locked. David did BOTH and thus the KEYS of DAVID merely means to have BOTH KEYS. And ANY hypocrite can pull that off. ALL of these writings have stumbling blocks of pride EVERYWHERE I would suggest that you call me as soon as possible. I have much much more. (S1N) 2CY-1DIE

[@derrickpurdy7011]

One does not need to possess great intelligence to realize that the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was not a literal fruit tree in the Garden that God had made. Thus, there was no literal fruit that Adam or Eve could have eaten. This part of the creation story is metaphorical. Sadly, 99.9% of people do not possess the necessary intelligence to be able to draw this conclusion, much less consider it.

[@ToYouFilthyDreamers-eu1xx]

Sadly, it is you who lacks intelligence! We are clearly told that all these trees in the garden including the tree of life, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil were real trees that grew out of the ground, and produced a fruit. Genesis Ch. 2, 9, "And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. 16, And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17, But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Additionally, if you think that there was some kind of non human spirit being that was the serpent/the devil/satan in the garden, then again, you lack intelligence and Biblical understanding. The serpent in the garden was eve! The devil/satan was/is eve! There is no such thing as the serpent, the devil, or satan. All these words represent eve and the EVEilness that hid in the evil heart of eve.

[@flatlander6928]

@@derrickpurdy7011 it’s not intelligence, it’s revelation by the Grace of God.

[@derrickpurdy7011]

@flatlander6928 One still needs a level of intelligence to understand said revelation. I am not surprised you missed this point.

[@flatlander6928]

@@derrickpurdy7011 so, you will run with the educated and trained pharasees and saducees, rather than the simple fisherman. Of which Jesus chose, the poor and uneducated, simple man. Of which Jesus told Peter, AN UNEDUCATED FISHERMAN, 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock (REVELATION) I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. A fisherman was given the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven. Jesus said to the highly educated and trained scholars 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Want me to go on?

[@flatlander6928]

@@derrickpurdy7011 missed which point, that I’m uneducated and can’t receive a revealing from God. Or that the tree you are referring to is satan, which was in the Garden with Christ Jesus the tree of life. Jesus said 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter (a called and chosen fisherman), and upon this rock (REVELATION OF WHO JESUS WAS) I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Actually Jesus said to the intelligent and educated of that day 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

[@awethinic8379]

Genesis 3 tells us of a seed war which leans support to the beguile of Eve. While the main point is that she sinned and not so much of the type of sin, this type of theology may or may not be correct and isn’t the message God wants us to learn. Other scripture that support this narrative is that we wrestle with dark powers and overlook the person of sin. The Bible is a story of redemption and not about how we spilled the milk. Once spilled, it’s all about the clean up. Wisdom is knowing when scripture is metaphoric or absolute. I know Christian’s that think the second coming is thousands of years away because God promised Abraham that his offspring would be as numerous as the stars and sand. If literal it’s more like millions of years away. Flat earthers read about the 4 pillars that support the earth. So it’s flat. 🙄 we must not get so deep into understanding that we lose our direct message of salvation and life changing relationship with Jesus. The greatest of gifts is love and love covers a multitude of sin. Bible battles are not prosperous .

[@michaelseay9783]

“As the stars and sand” means infinite people. Are we all not the seed of Abraham?

[@awethinic8379]

@ I’m just making the point that much of the Bible is metaphoric and ppl should not confuse the message of the gospel with non sequential arguments. As Christian’s, we should strive to keep the main thing- the main thing. But to answer your question, no not everyone is descendants of Abraham, one can make the case that we all are descendants of Noah tho. Again is it helpful to preach a seed war when Christ died for all? For me the redemption story of Christ is the message we should promote.

[@Rafael_1965]

There's also this pre-Adamic age (book of adam and eve)? ...so many views to distract from the Gospel of Christ. The Holy Scripture mostly point to Messiah. It's all one testament.

[@DJ-il8iv]

Literal vs metaphorical rendering argument. I’ll side with literal unless it’s a self-explanatory parable.

[@KangKadmus]

Serpent actually told the truth tho lol

[@MrWiseinheart]

Twisted truth that is used to deceive isn't truth in the end.

[@stormhawk31]

That is the dumbest theory I've ever heard

[@jamesmoore2143]

Fact if your a scholar of the bible

[@AmandainChrist88]

@@jamesmoore2143scholars can really mess it up . We should let the Lord show us. All education is not good education.

[@flatlander6928]

A descendant of Cain or Nimrod or the saducees and Pharisees would say the same thing.

[@stormhawk31]

@flatlander6928 That it was the dumbest theory they've ever heard? Of course. Because it is.

[@flatlander6928]

@@stormhawk31 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. We are there, don’t miss the boat!