The Seven Traditional Planets in Astrology: Meanings Explained (TAP #64 - audio only)

[@TheAstrologyPodcast]

I'm posting the audio of this old episode because a lot of people here on KZbin have been asking about it after it was mentioned in the recent episode on the significations of the houses. Sadly this episode was recorded back in 2016 before we started doing video, so it is just audio, but it was a great episode that really complements the ones we've done now on the signs of the zodiac and the houses.

[@SusanHopkinson]

The Astrology Podcast thanks Chris. Always useful to review these things with you! 🙏🏻

[@alexwood7556]

Thanks for posting, Chris!

[@fortheloveofthewhippetnijm8125]

Thank you Chris

[@tee6atl]

Thank you for posting. I went looking for it as soon as you guys mentioned it.

[@VJ_7137]

Thank you 🙏🏆👍❤️👌

[@murilkaa]

"Saturn rules the kind of wisdom that comes from being alone and cold in a cell" - me having the last 1/3 of my saturn return in quarantine

[@Tanner0]

Time Stamps: Introduction and Distinction from Modern Planets 02:22 Defining The Seven Traditional Planets 09:10 Planetary Qualities: Benefic and Malefic Characteristics - 18:50 Planetary Qualities: Influences and Nature’s - 29:49 The Moon - 35:50 The Sun - 47:03 Mercury 53:47 Venus 01:01:48 Mars - 01:10:46 Jupiter - 01:22:00 Saturn - 01:34:31 Closing Comments and Further Learning - 01:51:05

[@CaitlynBaidas]

Damn, that Saturn poem!!! Gave me all the feels.

[@melindeer]

at first i read the title as Seven Additional Planets and i got really discouraged about having to learn the significations of another seven lol

[@brendalomax1879]

😂

[@translevence]

One of the first podcasts I heard from Chris Kelly and Austin. The combination of your knowledges is such a fertile ground. So nice to revisit this talk - thanks for posting w time signatures ….. and thanks for the combined decades of study between you all

[@lzol2456]

This is the best breakdown and explanation of Jupiter out there. It's truly unique and enlightening. Brought me a much deeper awareness and understanding of my Jup in Sag and it made perfect sense. When I listened to others how they explained Jup, I felt something important was missing, but Austin Coppock just filled that hole with the brilliant examples and explanations. It's a gem. Love his Jup in Cancer and Gemini Moon, and luve ya all too.

[@captainnolan5062]

In tarot card reading, you do pay attention to what is not included in the spread. For example if you have a spread with no cups, you would know that you are not dealing with a love or emotional situation/question. (contrary to the comment at appx 6:10).

[@pierrelunatarot808]

You were bothered by the tarot comment too! Yeah, and as a tarot reader, I have recently realized that the repetitive cards on daily energy checks are the ones representing the planet and house that is influencing us all planetarily at any given time. Which is why I am here on this channel learning all I can from Astrology. Each tarot card is a representation of planets in different zodiac signs. Learning the astrological correspondences and the energy of each planet and sign of the tarot cards, increases your skill as a tarot reader. And I go out on a limb to say the same goes for Astrologers, learning the correspondences of tarot cards and letting jumpers be the ones read, will increase their skills as astrologers.

[@HolismT]

Where is a good place to learn the correspondence between tarot and astrology?

[@kittylagrace1128]

Knowledge is power. Discernment is wisdom. Love this episode! Great combo.

[@sarahstokes3833]

Thank you for uploading this! I had been one of those who was searching for it. Going to dig in right away. I appreciate you!

[@jax8127]

austin’s points always blow me away!!! really insightful perspectives and unique examples

[@rogerbob5594]

Thank you for sharing this on KZbin and your houses and signs podcast with Kelly and Austin. Great information.

[@CleaSelene]

1min in: Chris: "we'll have a 1h discussion on..." Me: *double-checks podcast length* - yupp, this will be awesome 😆

[@tracy3677]

This 2 part series was amazing! I found it so interesting - the presenters were incredibly knowledgeable as well as very relatable & kept the material interesting with a depth & breadth of knowledge plus injections of humor that seemed perfectly timed. Thanks so much to Chris, Austin, & Kelley for investing the time & effort into this VALUABLE & Appreciated sharing of your knowledge & experience!!

[@dannyshephard6292]

Thank you for this ppl often mistake the meaning of Aquarius bc of Uranus. Aquarius is ruled by Saturn an air fixed sign a man pouring water symbolizing the loyal eclectic servant that benefits society for humanitarian purposes not a wacky rebellious weirdo like so many claim Aquarius to be like.

[@Meowewoi]

As an Aquarius Stellium, I have to thank you for writing this comment. Lmfao.

[@dannyshephard6292]

Violet Energy Aquarius what? Sun moon rising? What? How many planets in Aquarius? Consider aspects, conjunctions and other planets & what houses & signs there in. Two friends out of billions of ppl behaving this way doesnt prove anything.

[@HH-wk6zg]

Thank You. I have SN in aquarius in the 5th, and have been pondering NN leo in 11th(squared by Uranus), so nice to have neat short aquarius picture in my mind 💖🧡💛💚💙💜🖤 Happy New Year!

[@kaylee7518]

Wow - currently going through my Saturn return, and I’ve really started to grow a deep appreciation for it. This talk solidified it even more.

[@djrg7921]

would be interesting to explore Mars' function as an aspect of the immune system, immunity aggression, auto-immunity dynamics

[@nataliezaf]

I've never heard this idea before. Interesting.

[@madisonarnett4194]

Also interesting how Saturn could have associations with sickness, stuffed noses, clotting, etc. Mars is the cause while Saturn is the symptoms.

[@rachelwyatt9529]

Mercury is fascinating

[@VJ_7137]

Thank you 🙏 loved the historic analysis.... importance of visibility of planets and house rulerships....

[@christinerobertsonnugamyaw9101]

Thank you for the poetry... so fitting for my 2nd Saturn return.

[@teatime009]

This is so important.

[@myezecky7422]

Chris, as a fellow Scorp, I, too, resisted giving up Pluto as my king, but am exploring the eminence of Mars. 🤣

[@LoLTgreene]

I'm working on a chemistry analogy conceptualization of the planets and in that I have Mars ruling redox reactions. Combustion is probably one of the most recognizable redox reactions (rusting and cellular respiration being others). So I conceptualize mars as ruling the heat from combustion (fire)/cellular respiration (fever) which require oxygen and the Sun ruling heat from fusion (heat in vacuum of space/ no oxygen).

[@jennyd1111]

Love this.

[@HauntedCerebralAstrology]

Really enjoying this flashback to early episodes, I'm curious to see which ones get posted next!

[@AROCODED]

The planetary association of Saturn with death actually has a neat tie-in with his mythological counterpart because Saturn had a sickle or scythe, being a god of agriculture, so he's sometimes linked to the image of the Grim Reaper. His association with time also coincides with that because of course death is an inevitable matter of time for living beings.

[@georgevasquez4087]

Great study on the planets. When comparing the knowledge of Jupiter and Mercury's knowledge a good reference is Plato's "analogy of the divided line" in the Republic (Republic 6) in which he speaks of Dianoia and Nous. To generalize, Dianoia is more like a mathematical intelligence, and Nous is like "gnosis", a intuitive wisdom, or knowledge of things as they really are. There are Wikipedia pages on Dianoia, Nous an Plato's "analogy of the divided line" to explain further.

[@VJ_7137]

Love this video...🔥🎉🙏 please do a series on planets 🙏

[@galacticrosepriestess]

Amazing! Thank you so much! So helpful

[@lobaetoile8157]

Thank you for your time and for your work! 🙏🖤

[@faithfulone6347]

Still trying to figure out what sag and cap did to be left off the Mic. 🤔 lol

[@tonyoconnell6012]

Jupiters first return is 12yrs...onset of puberty..classic Thanks you 3 ..another informative podcast...

[@YouNolf]

And the human brain stops growing at 25 years, one year after the second return of Jupiter 😃

[@SandyEaster]

0 ji

[@highD3E]

Yessss!!!✨I've been looking for this😍

[@anatoth9209]

Good idea , Thank y Chris 32.00 : bravo Kelly’ la belge 😉 Hopefully y had thé opportunity to meet Michael Mandl in Belgium

[@pedrosoares219]

Excellent! Thank you.

[@DarkMoonDroid]

This is so helpful. I can't even express how helpful this is... ...esp. since Merc is currently retro... 🤐

[@DarkMoonDroid]

23:30 Aaaaaaand, Mercury? 53:47 Ah. 57:46 I need to see the Source on this. He can't live that close to the Sun and deny its existence. Methinks "a-theism" may have meant something different then than what we think it means now. 28:41

[@DarkMoonDroid]

1:31:55 "Conception" Which may partly be what's behind the Greek-god archetype of Zeus - always raping everything around Him. The Will to Gnosis. Which is distinct from The Will to Power. You forgot to inquire about what might be "negative about the "Benefics". Esp. since they do go retro sometimes. Too much of a good thing, maybe? Esp. if you're not gonna work with the Transcendentals. ✔️So "Spiritual" that one is of no Earthly use. ✔️Spoiled, privileged. ✔️Egg-head. ✔️Being plagued by flatterers, having to pander to one's alies. ✔️Dissatisfaction with things simply as they are or with one's circumstances. There are nuanced plagues associated with living a well-resourced life where one has access to everything one could possibly want. Neuroses of all kinds. 😩

[@DarkMoonDroid]

1:35:21 I *_need_* that Saturn poem! 🙁 Going to type it out and frame it!!! 1:48:26 Favorite quote from "Star Trek DS9": "I am Ometiclan, and I am dead. I go into battle to reclaim my life."

[@amberspicks547]

I did a summer internship with SETI and NASA Ames where I studied aeolian features on mars… one thing I did, was document craters (and lack of them) which can be used to date the surface… the dunes showed a lack of craters meaning that they are “young”… still forming or recently formed… not ancient and stagnant… this feels right… and like it could possibly be used to expand the archetype… I like the idea of using modern technology to further develop the archetypes

[@Alusnovalotus]

1:48:20 I always thought Saturn was the high priest. He’s exclusive to whom he allows entry into things (like the popes and heaven) that are walled off and separate from the many and has to do with endings and as an antithesis per se to kings (sun). One rules the temporal, the other spiritual.

[@HH-wk6zg]

Thank You💛 Great ones around ac... Saturn in 1st and Jupiter in 12th. 🖤🧡

[@LeaPustetto]

Hi chris watched your basic starting video. How to read a chart. Very well done thanks. Could you do one on how to take the chart and predict whats happening in your life today. I always wondered that. Thanks

[@walkergoff3127]

Regarding good and evil vs benefic malefic, a good philosophical text to consult for anyone interested is Nietzsche’s genealogy of morals. In the first chapter, he sets out to demonstrate that the concept of evil is a Christian invention entirely absent from the worldview of the pre-Christian pagans, who viewed reality more in terms of fortune-hence Nietzsche’s amor fati, love of fate. When doing something, you hope to achieve a particular outcome. Benefic and malefic simply convey the tendency of a planet to either help or hinder those actions. One caveat: we must read action in the broadest sense the term possibly conveys. We thus must include inaction as a subspecies of action, as must we include particular states of being which are action’s derivatives.

[@aboodymahdy]

Thank you guys

[@melov7165]

Love the addition of Saturns children poem 😂

[@paigeu23]

Sure

[@victorleon2483]

This has been extremely educational, but as someone who came here to see what planets meant in the chart and natal, I felt like it went over every single thing BUT that lol.

[@k.t.hesterley7171]

Good information. Thank you.

[@TayPal1]

Late to the game here but what about Pluto?

[@lobaetoile8157]

I have a question... In case anyone can help me: I've been wondering, I have a few close conjunctions in my natal chart and I'm not sure which planet has more influence... For example, I have my Moon conjuct to my Jupiter in Virgo and I'm a Sagittarius Rising so... Does that mean my chart ruler (Jupiter) is influenced by my moon or not? Does that mean my Moon is a mix of Virgo and Jupiter nature or that, on contrary, my Jupiter is exacerbating Virgo so it makes me even more earthy and so it makes me less-like my rising sign? This is just one small example, but looking at my families charts, these type of questions are arising... And I'm not sure what's the best interpretation. Should I just follow my intuition or is there a reasonement a should consider? I have mix feelings when I try to be objective about my self, even though I'm quite introspective. Thank you in advance for any input! :D

[@s3sarahscheuererstudios384]

💚You ask from my heart! I have wondered the same and have no answer, but i join the row of questionmarks! I have a stellium in the 12th house and really no clue where to interpret and where to follow my intuition, aka fantasise...😂✌🦇🌲

[@dldudley61]

Why is mars exalted in capricorn whice seem like building then breaking up things can you explain

[@Prudenthermit]

The earthy feminine pragmatic sign of Capricorn tempers the hot impulsive nature of mars :) helps the planet to be active & functional without being too extreme.

[@tonyoconnell6012]

Think Juicy Jupiter is also involved with desire..trying to make sense of it all... trying to make it black & white with my moon in virgo ..

[@Alusnovalotus]

1:20:30 I thought Saturn, the moon and Venus were for night and sun, Mars and Jupiter were for day…. Which is which?

[@tiktik7608]

Saturn is malefic for night chart

[@SamriddhiBanerjee]

what if you have Venus in the first House and also your First house is Aires, which is associated with the planet Mars? As you said Venus and Mars have contrasting traits, so what's the significance of it?

[@tonyoconnell6012]

Venus represents the anima...the feminine archetype within the psyche..it is pure desire Mars represents the animus...the masculine archetype within the psyche..it is pure action

[@evanmcarthur478]

Yes Mercury, Banking and Money glad I heard some professionals mention that!

[@MrBezigebij]

Thinking about Jupiter I am now singing along with Lizzo’: Blame it on the Juice...”

[@martinlivesley1069]

Saturn not just physical boundaries..those mentally self imposed too..the fear

[@abdul-rahman-mahdi]

Interesting

[@eagillum]

Are there enneagrammer listeners who are like "mmm, I dunno.... "? We see the outer planets as crucial, integral parts of our egoic structures and defence mechanisms. Although, yeah, I don't know about the house rulerships. I'll have to contemplate that one.

[@siobhanroberson5575]

The Capricorn poem: BOO! 😡😅

[@Queenie-the-genie]

Jupiter is female. We increase children with our bodies for one thing, with our willingness to expand. Neptune should also be considered feminine in my opinion - we are creative, nebulous, dreamy. What's with this overwhelming male stuff - (like everything else I guess). We are leaving that reality soon I hope. Perhaps even Pluto which is transformative is feminine - Women are the queens of transformation. Of course Uranus is definitely both with the sudden unexpected changes he/she provides so often, according to fickle whimsy. They will all need name changes.

[@lobaetoile8157]

I agree that Jupiter, Neptune and Pluto seem feminine... However, maybe a way to look at this is that all planets have both feminine and masculine energy/manifestations, just like people have a certain duality. :)

[@kardaisyy]

idk uranus getting its 🥜 cut, definitely feels uranusy lol

[@kardaisyy]

but my natal uranus is in aqua 11H so idk i may be biased lmao

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

Thank God re: Uranus, as I was worried I’d get castrated with it in my second house for not paying my water bill on time.

[@popuchick]

Great video!! I see Saturn being like the disciplinarian that pulls up his sleeves and does the dirty work that nobody else is capable of doing, but that needs to be done. He establishes limits, and is the one that screams ENOUGH! and has the last word. Logan Roy vibes. At the same time, there are times when Saturn brings huge benefits: like an American president finally imposing limits and saying ENOUGH! NO MORE! to Israel in order to bring peace and stability. On the other side of the coin, I see Jupiter as the architype of the fat jolly generous indulgent patriarch that has no problem lending money/extending blessings with no strings attached. Sometimes too much of a good thing can be your downfall, think Robert Baratheon, or, again, America's enabling of Israel's bad behavior. That's why I kind of reject the nomenclature of 'benefic' and 'malefic' planets, and would prefer if they were referred to as something like 'attritional' and 'tranquil'. I'm a beginner in astrology at best, so I'm wondering what more experienced astrologers think of my assessment?

[@Kristmaz808]

Scorpios age like vampires because of Pluto lol

[@TheonlyLarsNelson]

wow... You really have to do some reading. At least Ovid's Metamorphoses and Homers' Odyssey. There is everything about Neptune and Neptune's world in these books.

[@TheSunship777]

i disagree . One does not have to know anything about astrology to feel a Moon or Sun aspect and be able to differentiate . Those however are not planets but there are those who can delve into Cosmic Memory . To say otherwise is to reduce Astrology to a lower plane.

[@XeniaRabe]

After reading when god was a woman, and having describes their how the sun used to be associated with the goddess and women on earth acting as priestesses of the sun goddess, and the sun goddess being the primary ruler of heaven and earth and that the moon was the secondary god which later came to even be considered a god( which was only through the sun goddess and her priestesses) and so the moon was considered as representative for man and the masculine. With all that historical and archaeological evidence behind it and how the indo Europeans/ Aryans male warlike invaders( colonialism in Europe) took over and assigned the sun to themselves and taking over that narrative. Which had huge racist propaganda with the man being g the source of light and good, vs associating dark skinned people and darkness in general to something bad and evil. And Christianity took from there those metaphors and made satan snake darkness evil while the snake was a sacred symbol for the sun goddess and the whole suppression and killing of all that didn’t believe in the snake satanic darkness and trying to wipe out all evidence for that(which they couldn’t luckily) But then it’s annoying for me to listen to those patriarchal stuff of women being so emotional and apparently moving and changing so much while the man/ sun represent patriachally the Intellekt and that which doesn’t change, being steady etc etc That whole idea came way later. Used to be the woman as lifegiver of all humankind, the steadyness, that which connects everything, and holds community together vs Emotional man being g driven to war and aggression and domination through violence and the concept of fatherhood was not even understood back then. At all. It was matrilineal passing down of property and decision making was all devoted to the divine ruler of heaven and earth the goddess which created peace and life and the sky as a metaphor for being safe in your mothers belly growing into yourself while we lived outside Vs the whole fear based masculine mindset of needing to slay all beings of darkness cause they lacked trust when they started to go overboard with pride and making decisions not devoted to the goddess.