The Shi | Fallout Lore

The Shi are perhaps one of if not the most well-known, but also most forgotten faction to rise from the old world ashes, they show such promise in terms of technology and scientific research, yet they have also seemingly vanished from the face of the earth.
But where did they come from, who’s in charge and what has happened to them?
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[@Synonymous101]

For those who have finished the video, what do you think happened to the Shi?

[@edamommy]

If history repeats itself, they covered themselves in 5 ft of concrete and teleported all over the place

[@sski]

Unless the NCR taxed them to death, they have infiltrated every major settlement with Chinese restaurants, dry cleaners, and for some strange reason, floral shops that sell only one specific type of vine. Great work with The Wanderer, by the way. Really enjoyed the collab.

[@letsberealdailynewsfromaro9863]

Anything is really possible at this point since none of the endings are canon.

[@ottofroehlich928]

The fact that Kellog had (has?) ties to the Shi may shine a light on their existence on the East coast. ArcJet's involvement in the Mar's project ties into their interest with space, and possibly gives us reason for the unexplained underwater pipes in fallout 4 if they did utilize similar technology to move fuel.

[@zacharylindsay6418]

I think they are with the raccoons

[@marrvynswillames4975]

Virgin Institute: lets Just do nothing besides replace people for decades Chad Shi: lets make plants to absorve radiation and make New types of fuel

[@argumentumadhominem3977]

and synth gorillas

[@Tommytakanawa]

Absorb.

[@119princesskida5]

Can't believe they actually named him Dr. Long Wang lmfao

[@voin3186]

That was the beauty of old school Fallout. Man I miss that darkness and sense of humor.

[@jerdasaurusrex557]

It can also mean Dragon King in Mandarin sooo

[@tacidian7573]

"I can show you a real dragon king, Amata."

[@moodyowlproductions4287]

Long Wang....poor bastard

[@ecw4life267]

That name will always be funny as fuck

[@Ollysstarwarsprops]

It would be interesting to see the Shi again, maybe now they live in a lush green city and control some of the settlements around them? It would be cool to see especially with the likes of the Brotherhood and NCR sniffing around.

[@Alex-pj8nz]

There is a large BOS base in F2 and there seems to be some kind of underworld figure controlling the crimes in the city looking at F4 which could be NCR intelligent.

[@justinmacdonald2102]

That whole part of coastal California would probably be pretty well off. As you said the brotherhood and NCR would bring stability and you've got 2 GECK built cities in the area, and a working nuclear power plant which would be huge to rebuilding a civilization.

[@jeambeam3173]

@@jakespacepiratee3740 sounds stupid and fuck Fallout 76

[@Clipper12345]

I think it would be cool if the shi were able to control the majority of the San Francisco surrounding area instead of just china town

[@MammalianCreature]

@@jeambeam3173 cope

[@ArroDime_]

The Shi deserve to be in a future fallout game. They’re such an interesting faction.

[@joshuagraham2843]

so there not communists?

[@averageforzaplayer1048]

@IDE let’s just hope Bethesda doesn’t butcher the Shi like they did with the Brotherhood of steel

[@mitchellmccallum9778]

Not really, it's basically just asian fetishization. A faction created by an Orientalist

[@guilhermebraga9773]

@@joshuagraham2843 their origin is that pf brainwashed commie soldiers serving a terrible dictatorship. However, their nation disappeared, no more dictator or state oppression while having to survive in a territory alien to them. Without the chains of their former masters and with the technology of their submarine, they became much different from a commie brainwashed zombie. They become more of a kind of technocratic society like the institute, but with certain Asian flavor to them, maybe a way to honor their ethnic origin, but not to honor their commie past

[@vetarlittorf1807]

@@averageforzaplayer1048 Bethesda did seem to learn from their mistake and depicted BoS more accurately in Fallout 4.

[@peterparker2389]

If I remember correctly, the fate of the Shi and the entirety of San Francisco would have been given in Van Buren. It would have involved SF being nuked by the Enclave survivors at the Navarro base, having believed the inhabitants were responsible for the destruction of the Oil Rig and the death of the President. Obsidian was also originally going to have some dialogue in New Vegas describing how San Francisco was destroyed after the events of Fallout 2, but it was requested to be cut by Bethesda as they wanted to leave it as a potential area for future installments.

[@Mr1087shotwell]

I read the same thing, I hope they do something with it ! Like Fallout: Bay Area

[@Demicleas]

@@Mr1087shotwell eh I still want fallout new Orleans first ya don't have alot of post apocalypses set in Louisiana witch I find weird beacuse Louisianas culture and traditions and architecture is alot more diffrent than you'll see anywhere else I mean that VR walking dead game is a good example. But I guess we'll have to wait a while for a game like that beacuse the brotherhood won't be anywhere near that place and if the brotherhood ain't there than no fallout games are ganna be there.

[@l-makthedestroyer7142]

Bethesda be like "hey can you cut out this content? We want to leave the lore open to possibilities" Then retcons the shit out of everything in Fo4

[@A_Moustached_Sock]

Thank you for this comment. The entire time I had that nawing at the back of my mind but couldnt exactly remember what it was.

[@aminurrahmanmajumder4643]

@@Demicleas indeed the deep south is criminally unexplored

[@battlesheep2552]

I remember it was stated somewhere in New Vegas that Kimball's Vertibird, Bear Force One, was built by the Shi and gifted to the NCR

[@enclavesoldier769]

Could be but more than likely a captured enclave one

[@DracoSafarius]

@@enclavesoldier769 Almost certainly a captured one. It's the more advanced attack-oriented second generation design. Even the Brotherhood post 3 don't make those, and they've got full manufacturing capabilities out the ass. So unlikely they happened upon perfect blueprints for that type of Vertibird, and also as unlikely they reverse engineered the Fallout 2 style one and happened to modify it into the advanced one. 99.99% chance it's captured.

[@Obiwankenobi6287]

I had no idea that Kellog was involved with the Shi, but I definitely think they they would have thrived all things considered.

[@majorknight1971]

That makes me hate Kellogg more

[@requiemagent3014]

Fallout 4 is not canon. Thank God.

[@majorknight1971]

@@requiemagent3014 😔

[@imnotaracistokay]

@@requiemagent3014 is that sarcasm?

[@requiemagent3014]

@@Vaultboy-ke2jj It absolutely isn't. Everyhting that was made by Todd is not canon. Do I even need to start on the massive retcons of Fallout 4 that doesn't make any sense. Like the Ghoul in a fridge thar apparently DOESN'T NEED WATER to survive. Yeah that is by far not the only braindead writing but by far the worst one because it directly contradicts the entirety of the original fallout. Or Jet that is on a pre war shipping list to a sealed vault. Jet. A drug that was invented post war. The list goes on and on and on. Fallout 4 is not canon. It's an insult.

[@DalTak]

In my opinion, it's not unlikely that the Shi we're eventually absorbed by the NCR.

[@victorkane1154]

I think if it happened we would’ve seen NCR boys in working power armour in NV, although it’s not unlikely that some sort of agreement or at least arrangement was made as could be suggested by that NCR guy in Lonesome Road with the Sierra power armour

[@FuzzyLittleBastard]

I think it's more likely that they act as an independent state within the NCR. similar to how the brotherhood end up if they're not killed.

[@Spongebrain97]

@@FuzzyLittleBastard perhaps it's something to where they allow the NCR use of some technology and in return the NCR leaves them alone since the Shi are not hostile. But I do wonder if some Shi inhabitants left San Francisco and became part of the NCR. Like it could be a backstory for Colonel Hsu

[@killgriffinnow]

There are NCR members in power armour, they just strip out the servos so that they don’t need to teach them to use it.

[@Idontwannaplayanymore]

Ncr vs shi better then the legion vs ncr or legion vs shi i should stop

[@elic1356]

The Shi is definitely one of the more interesting (yet still relatively forgettable) factions in the Fallout series. I'd love to see more factions like the Shi in the future. That is if Bethesda decides to continue the Fallout series, considering their handfull of other projects.

[@elgoblino9918]

East coast's fallout lore sucks tbh. I prefer the western/mad max vibe from the western coast.

[@nut8907]

i heard tod howard is going to retire in the following years and he was the main one that pushed for the purchase of the fallout id and such so i doubt we getting another fallout any time soon

[@JRYYD]

If this faction did return in another game as I believe Bethesda asked FNV to remove a line about their destruction what do you think the Shi would be doing with the NCR around them & the West BoS in decline and with Mr house in control of New Vegas? With what has been explored with the Rad absorbing plant maybe they start trading it with others for safety from the NCR as the sole creators of a plant to remove Rads in the form of small pot plants, with a crises with the Empire backing down from old age and lack of repair.

[@andreheri4546]

@@nut8907 This would likely to be happen. He's at mid-fifties now.

[@Michael-bn1oi]

@@nut8907 except the games print money and I doubt whoever replaces him hates money. We will see it on whatever time frame it's currently on. Which will be a long time, but that's got nothing to do with Tod

[@ricolange4978]

Dr long Wang sounds like a nice charming fella

[@koraegi]

I wonder if he's related to Biggus Dickus

[@potato9539]

Maybe his grandma is yega da drip

[@hoathanatos6179]

It means Dragon King in Mandarin.

[@BlueBD]

using the AI to make rules BUT altered because an AI is usually cold and inhumane in it decisions is like... The sanest way of progress. Many places tend to either be tyants or soulless idiots but they way they use AI is literally the best possible way too

[@brosephbroman7564]

Not the sanest. You're just removing guilt from the decision making. And if its inhumane, there would be another human doing that inhumane thing that was decided by the AI

[@BlueBD]

@@brosephbroman7564 i mean they dont follow it to the letter. They results are guidelines not laws. They alter it to better fit a humane situation. Thats logical imo

[@Umbra_Ursus]

(Eden disliked that)

[@gringottssteakhouse5893]

@@BlueBD A

[@raffiadhitama5212]

i think we need to atleast make a paper or experiment on this, AI doesn't bend itself to emotions and animal instincts covered behind sugar coated words and considering the usage of programs nowadays for helping in decision making while still respecting both qualitative and quantitative aspect of choices, i'd say it's a very interesting idea imo. AI would make a non-compromising lists of long term decisions and we the humans just chose which one the best, heck maybe even we can suggest something and let the AI calculate wether it's reasonable enough or not

[@countersphere2924]

I honestly hope that Ending 3 is the cannon one, I'd love to see a new faction rise up and play a more important role in the Fallout series, beats the constant re-use of the Brotherood. I also really like the idea that the Shi are a faction build on a foreign (Chinese) way of life within post-war America.

[@altus2447]

You already know future Fallout games (at least lead by Bethesda) the Brotherhood are gonna keep being the reused faction.

[@koraegi]

I'd hope the future fallout can finally move on from the brotherhood and the enclave

[@countersphere2924]

@@koraegi Agreed, I'm honestly just done with BoS and Enclave at this point. And I'm saying this as a BoS fan btw. It's real boring to see BoS be a huge presence in every Bethesda made Fallout

[@monsutaman1]

Feel the Akaviri and Shi wil play a role in the next mainstream beth titles.

[@Jiub_SN]

The shi shouldn't come back unless the games on the west coast, but I also don't want Bethesda to touch the west coast at all. It'd be better if they just made original interesting factions like the shi. They have 0 originality tho so expect more BoS and enclave.

[@The_Alt_Vault]

I think the Shi thrived and exist in a 3 way cold war between the NCR and the Brotherhood. Their choice to play tall has made them hard to deal with but unable to expand much in the face of the NCR's numbers and the Brotherhood who they would likely see as the only thing stopping the NCR from throwing everything at them. So with my head cannon of Mr House winning in Vegas its interesting to think that House would find the Shi in space with both having the Zatans to deal with.

[@JRgsy]

I had to skip the video back a few times to check I heard the name correctly, Dr Long Wang is just the best character name I’ve seen for ages in Fallout.

[@rcpf3]

My chiropractors name is Dong wang and I get a picture of his name plate every time I see him. It’s great!

[@RandomPengu]

I have never heard of the Shi till now, with how amazing this faction is. I'm glad they haven't been touched honestly I don't think justice could be done to them in the newer ones

[@hippy282]

I like the idea of the Shi becoming another power house in the wastes that could either help or hinder the progress of country depending on your influence as a player

[@ironwolf2244]

I've seen some people propose that they were annexed by the NCR. I find this to be ridiculous given the technological level of the Shi, and the fact that they had good relations with almost everyone, including the BoS (with the noted exception of the Hubologists). I think that the Shi formed a proper City-state, and that they were left alone by the other factions. The Shi never espoused Expansionist goals, so that would explain why they aren't a larger entity. And if they remain isolationist, then that would avoid much of the conflict they could get into. Also, if they were destroyed, wether by war or some experiment gone wrong.. you'd think something like that would be worth mentioning in later games. Yet we have heard nothing of the sort.

[@mariano98ify]

not "conquered" but they vote to be annexed to the NCR, let see if they have high autonomy as a city-state, maybe the computer knew that it would be better to avoid fighting against the NCR because they outmatched them in manpower. Also keep in mind that even Mr. House knew that the NCR WANT new vegas even if the NCR control and own the Hoover Dam, so the same they would had crave to own San Francisco even if the Shi were peaceful, so I dont see like that would stop the NCR to conquer the city. Keep in mind the Shi while by far more tech advanced than the NCR, the NCR beat the BOS and both Shi as BOS lacked the manpower that the NCR owned.

[@alextricity7493]

Most people agree that it’s likely they’ve joined the NCR and act in a similar way as Puerto Rico with the US

[@concept5631]

Thus, the Shi have achieved a state of being most in the Mojave can only wish for. Being boring.

[@Jiub_SN]

The shi definitely joined the ncr later, there isn't really a way around it. They're high tech and the NCR are pretty shitty and expansionist usually, so it's likely the emperor chose to join them peacefully to avoid conflict, and doubly likely they have special rights within the ncr to maintain their own government but still vote and pay taxes to the federal givernment

[@concept5631]

@@Jiub_SN Yeah that's how I'm thinking it went as well.

[@Pats0c]

It's weird that there was still a Chinatown despite there being such severe Sinophobia for about 10 years in pre-war America EDIT: I'm noticing a lot of people drawing parallels to the Irish and stuff but like the level of xenophobia Chinese-Americans were experiencing were a direct copy of the way we treated Japanese-Americans and Japanese culture in general during WW2. Yeah sure it's all dandy now but we've had time to heal those wounds, the Great War brought an abrupt end to that. Also they're being treated way worse than the way we even treated the Japanese. Chinese folks getting experimented on and being forced to wear slave collars yo

[@richyhu2042]

Its also weird that the naval crew would turn to traditional Chinese monarchy as a form of government when they were previously a part of a Communist military with all its propaganda. I like the Shi but it kinda feels like a plot hole.

[@maxxor-overworldhero6730]

@@richyhu2042 I think that an easy way to fix the plot hole is to create a new psuedo-faction within the Fallout Chinese, one that preferred the older culture of China that was wiped out by the Communists, and thus had to hide their reverence for the non-Communist past. The sub's crew could have been a part of this faction, and once it was clear that they weren't ever going to get orders from the Communist military again, they became more open about it. As to Chinatown, Pre-War America could've turned it into a political ghetto.

[@richyhu2042]

@@maxxor-overworldhero6730 I really can't see that happening since that would create a potentially larger plot hole. Being accused of being "anti-proletariat/anti-communist" is the most common accusation in communist countries during purges and irl China has had a fair few of them not including the big ones like the Cultural Revolution. Any evidence of a pro-monarchy view is enough to get you gulag'd or "reeducated" if you are lucky or just straight up shot as a traitor to the revolution. Even if we were to assuming that instead of monarchy it was spun as dictatorial authoritarian rule, I don't see again why the naval crew would turn to Imperial Chinese aesthetics instead of keeping with their Communist China aesthetics. There's already plenty of examples of communist countries who effectively had one man at the top with all the power and some sort of cult of personality but it was always spun as a "man of the people" and not "rule by divine right". I love that the Shi are in Fallout and that they aren't just some random Chinese communist fanatics living in a grass hut, but their backstory just smells of someone who came up with an idea and then made up an explanation without thinking too hard about it. Source: Second gen Chinese American with parents who grew up during the Mao era of China and were part of the movements in their youth.

[@altus2447]

The Sinophobia came into the lore after Fallout 2 if I recall.

[@sethwinters3556]

@@richyhu2042 because the world ended, they don't have to fear being executed for traitor thoughts. Also, its post nuclear war and they found a giant, abandoned, and somewhat familiar neighborhood. They would take advantage of that. And being limited to just a sub full of people maybe they might not be as educated on building a communist society or like previous maybe didn't prefer that kind of society.

[@TheWanderer2287]

I’ve been waiting on this video for a while now, I voted on it a long time ago! The Shi are one faction I have never really took the time to look into, so thank you for this ❤️

[@lucadunstan3220]

Henceforth all of my characters in Fallout games shall be named Dr Long Wang

[@handleyoassbiatch]

This is why I liked Fallout New California mod. It touches other factions from the previous games. During the game, there is a Shi Bank in Union City as well as some rogue Shi raiders. Makes me think the Shi flourished and became one successful factions in the wasteland. Too bad, most people are focused on the FNV factions while the Bethesda continues to milk the BOS and Enclave that these other Factions (Shi, Followers, Vault City, etc.) are not usually touched.

[@shaybert]

Thank God for different time zones. I was about to have to binge from the beginning of the lore episodes.

[@kevting4512]

Current head canon is the Shi is less of an independent faction and a major political party within the NCR. Their influence can be through bio and techno resources for the Bay Area of the NCR.

[@Mrkabrat]

So we can consider that the hubologists are...big trouble in Little China?

[@friedrichwulfgang3655]

I’d like to see a fallout Canada, not just because it is my home country. But simply because the lore we are given about the country has so much opportunity. I’d like to see how Canada adapted to this alternate timeline and how its citizens were outraged by the countries annexation. As well as how it held up post-war.

[@countersphere2924]

Yes I'd LOVE that! Honestly I'd love a Fallout Canada, Mexico or even Fallout China would be great and something I've always wanted 😁

[@dummy_vicc2976]

Personally I like to think that it's just that America is just Like That™ and everywhere else is normal. It's not lore-friendly, or reasonable, but it is pretty funny

[@TNOFanZacharie]

@@dummy_vicc2976 We know that GB was nuked, but I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Australia is normal.

[@friedrichwulfgang3655]

@@TNOFanZacharie could you imagine tarantulas the size of cars in a fallout Australia? 👀

[@TNOFanZacharie]

@@friedrichwulfgang3655 OH SHIT, YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'D BE SO COOL!

[@Yutyrant95]

I remember playing the Western Brotherhood in HOi4 OwB. There's a focus option to make friends with the Shi and as a result the Brotherhood gains the ability to manufacture old-world Chinese jet fighters. It's probably changed since I last played, but I always thought that was really cool

[@equimanthorn6185]

The Shi are probably just vibing as of now.

[@dinoluka11]

I lost it when I heard the head researcher's name was Long Wang XD

[@Limbopiod]

In Chinese, it translates to Dragon King.

[@thegeneralpopulace8513]

Right on time for my insomnia, I was waiting for this lore! Great video ,Synonymous .

[@zion470]

Love what ya do! So concise and informative 🤘

[@georgecostanza7990]

I like to think of the Shi as currently being akin to Hong Kong or Taiwan in the middle of NCR territory where it's disputed whether the land belongs to the NCR with etc factional influences and regional power imbalances (possibly due to the Shi being far more technologically advanced) keeping them as an independent city state as San Francisco. Even considering the fact that the NCR is likewise fairly tech advanced even just by the time of Fallout 2, the Shi's Emperor / Advanced computer is exponentially increasing their ability far beyond the NCR's ability. By the time of New Vegas the Shi are probably more advanced than the height of any nation during the Pre War era , but still a relatively small society. If they do make another fallout set in the West Coast then they absolutely need to include the Shi in some way

[@Jiub_SN]

That's unironically a part of the reason why the new Vegas devs wanted to nuke San Francisco in between 2 and new Vegas lmao. I'd also like to add that it's more likely they just collapsed, as 2/3 endings involve their collapse

[@jojishigesso]

Been binge listening to your videos during work and I must say they are really, really cool! Keep up the good work! They’re making me want to play Fallout games again haha

[@robkemp598]

It is possible the NCR simply expanded faster than them and the Shi had no option but to join up or be embargoed (ie starved out). I can imagine the "Emperor" just changing it's name to Senator Cheung or something and getting a job advising the NCR on the cabinet

[@DracoSafarius]

Very likely. NCR exploded in total territory gains, and should have most, if not all, California by the point of Vegas. They branched out into bits of Mexico and nearby states as well. Shi could exist as a separate state relegated to the San Francisco region, but it's more likely the Van Buren explanation of the Enclave nuking them or the NCR absorbing them happened.

[@KickapooNinja]

I love your videos man, they're like little documentaries about one of my favorite things - Fallout!

[@MrPoogly]

The Shi are too reasonable and logical for a Fallout faction.

[@yourdadsotherfamily3530]

Especially when born out of the worst ideological ashes lol

[@jacksonquinn8744]

@@yourdadsotherfamily3530 well think about it: the great war came about for a few reasons, one major reason is ideological differences. The Shi took note that the destruction of the world as they knew it was in part because of those clashes of ideology. I think they were simply were burnt out, no pun intended. They wanted a different option/approach to governing and societal growth.

[@jamesfriesen4203]

13:59 the shi should make in appearance in season 2 of Fallout

[@The_Obsessed]

Finally, been waiting for this one! Best thing I could've got off work too.

[@ErokLobotomist]

Ahhhhhhh excellent. I've been waiting for this and it was well worth it. Cheers!

[@noahschneider400]

I quite like this channel. I'm starting to enjoy finding there's a new video. You seem to pick topics that go mostly unexamined by other fallout lore channels

[@mwellnow5016]

Secret leader is actually an AI How many times does fallout do this?

[@Synonymous101]

Too many!

[@neasper]

I think the Shi got conquerd by the NCR the Shi had powerful tech what the NCR whould want to have and with the Ncr being so imperialistic it whould only be mather of time.

[@gentledarkness9276]

I think that's the case to on the Fallout wiki it says that San Francisco is part of New California

[@gentledarkness9276]

Also in Fallout New Vegas the existence of Colonel Hsu May indicate that the shi integrated with the NCR but still have some level of autonomy like Vault City and New Reno the Shi would probably trade some of their technology and resources if they're allowed to keep the emperor maybe to use it as a cultural thing

[@currahee1782]

@@gentledarkness9276 Also I'd like to think Col. Hsu came from the Shi due to him having a Chinese surname.

[@gentledarkness9276]

@@currahee1782 yeah I was thinking the same thing

[@DracoSafarius]

Would also make sense that the NCR's vehicles (troop transports, cars, tanks, some aircraft, sparse vertibirds like the President's etc) would need parts made for continued use over time. No real better way than to conquer or absorb the nearby state that has strong manufacturing capabilities and researched energy production.

[@Luke_H98]

Been waiting for this one! As for what happened to the Shi? Probably any number of things, despite their vicinity to the NCR we have no reports of them being annexed. They're a highly scientific society with what seems to be great plans for the wasteland, so perhaps they continue to pursue their goals and stay isolated in their bay. Maybe they branch out south towards the great Glow to help the Ghoul population further south. I know I'd love to see their return to find out what has happened over the past few decades since Fallout 2.

[@FernandoRodarte]

Your videos are amazing and well detailed!

[@plasticupboi1032]

Late night synonymous vids are the ones that smack the most👍🏻👍🏻

[@TheGateShallStand]

All I know is that if they ever come back, they should come back in some type of force, like the Legion in terms of power and ability, guns and vertibirds like the NCR and BOS, along with Enclave levels of secrecy and strange workings. Because, let's face it, The Shi are just really fucking cool, I want them surrounded by greenery and stocks of mutated cows and other animals, the Empire of the chinese standing strong within enemy territory. It would just be really cool set piece to have around

[@JRYYD]

This has been a great video and showed me a new faction of Fallout I did not know about, nice topic to chose Synoymous, what will be next?

[@Kaiju-Driver]

Solid, informative content. Thank you.

[@Lokeacola]

Thank you for making a video on the shi!

[@cjtheevilghost5711]

This video reminds me of the Chinese Sub Yangtze from Fallout 4. That quest was pretty fun and interesting as you got to see that some Chinese Commies regretted their actions during the great war.

[@DavidStewart-zy9zw]

Would’ve been cool to see a faction come from the Yangtze though or at least small settlements with communist ideologies.

[@TheLoverOfYourMother1]

I'd love it if the Shi make an reappearance in future games. Great video as always

[@keanunotReeves8127]

I have a question Synonymous, could you do a video on the massive moving vehicles like the enclaves mobile Air Force base and the Valdez cargo ship? Did you have future plans on doing singular major location like stated above?

[@keanunotReeves8127]

The reason is I’ve only ever figured out that things the enclave do the destruction of it was too great a waste. I get purging the enclave but to have destroyed a compound able to assist during a uprising of super mutants or other lore monsters. The Brotherhood didn’t think to preserve the massive tech construction or was destroying it and the masters lair one in the same. the fear of leaving it to be used was worse then the loss of it

[@GunRunner106]

nice timing with the logo appearing just as keloggs shoots the lawyer. :D

[@luissantiago5163]

Ah! Love the vids. Cheers!!

[@HappyFunTimeMedia]

I hope FO2 gets a version that's updated to a contemporary style and re-released. Same for 1 also.

[@koraegi]

They could just skip 1 and just go ahead and remake 2

[@c.harley_17]

U know what would be a awesome fallout game is one that is based on either new Orleans or the great plains imagine a radioactive tornado or a radioactive hurricane lol and then have canada be part of a dlc

[@jakekaywell5972]

It would be awesome, except I believe the U.S. actually annexed Canada shortly before the Great War.

[@brokenbiscuit3609]

bro the Shi sound fucking dope, i hope they come back in a future game, but in a side quest or a main quest, not just a throwaway note in a sewer somewhere

[@davidr1037]

Love these videos

[@amir-zz7lz]

“Your ticktock video had earned you +100 social credit” “You are now idolised by the shi!”

[@heehokuzunoha7757]

Their emperor was actually Super Idol the whole time 🤔

[@nicswag7207]

In the future the shi are probably already a major faction in the wasteland. With vertiberds and the ability to create fuel they would quickly gain power. Assuming the ncr didn't tax them to death.

[@Gruntman1234]

Figures the one failed scientific endeavor that the Shi tried involved the FEV. Seriously, that damn thing has done as much damage as the nuclear bombs, maybe more. You'd think that at some point, would-be scientists in the Fallout universe would stop messing with that thing.

[@2445elijah]

Oh you know scientists, all ways thinking “yeah but what if I did this instead”

[@DracoSafarius]

Has too much potential to just give up. It's more that everyone as a whole has way less ability to safely test and manufacture stuff, so it gets wildly out of hand constantly. Institute would have been perfectly safe with it, but instead of disposing of their mutants they just tagged them and dropped them on the surface for rare study.

[@CohenBaklund]

This got me through a toe procedure, thank you

[@sbh_tx]

I would love to see a return to the west coast in a new fallout game but I also fear what Bethesda would do to it

[@xenobio7402]

I always forget about the Shi! thanks for the video

[@killaben85]

I think the 3rd ending will probably be Canon. Since if they ever make a Fallout San Francisco a conflict between the Shi and the NCR would be a good story. Then having minor factions like the Hubologists, the Brotherhood of Steel, and maybe a new faction would be good.

[@worldofdoom995]

would love a future DLC to revisit them.

[@theclownicon]

Shi-sh, a late lore video? A great way to end the night, I say.

[@numberminecraftfan]

I love this joke lol

[@AwakenedBelngs]

Also a great way to start the morning for me lol

[@doughboywhine]

That sentient "radiation reducing vine" sounds oddly similar to the Strangler vine they have in 76, also makes me wonder why the institute is just getting to radiation-reducing plant life now

[@DracoSafarius]

Possible they didn't think they'd be able to develop something strong enough to pacify the Glowing Sea. If that's the case, then it makes sense to divert that research effort into other stuff. Hold it off until they can spare resources with little impact and/or make use of the FEV research to aid in increasing the plant size and vitality.

[@aidanbob2048]

‘thank you for watching, and I’ll shi you in the next one’ :D

[@donkeyboi9863]

What do you do when you meet a Chinese emperor? You Bao! If I was a Chinese emperor, I would be Qing of puns! Keep up the great work, I love the vids about fallout 1&2 because I haven't played them yet.

[@Limbopiod]

Get this topvoted

[@Anagi.]

its likely the got annexed by the ncr but if if they were thriving well enough they could have retained some power i could see there being a senator of shi

[@KashOutJay210]

Thank you I was just about to go sleep. The goat🐐

[@saiyansogordo1483]

Vaults a complete lore and listing of the ones we know or can at least speculate on, and their experiments also. 😁

[@ShadeMeadows]

Wow... i had forgotten 'bout 'em!

[@Clunkers707]

really cool faction i didnt even know existed i wish i could make myself play through the first fallout games

[@drill_fiend1097]

Shi faction with Triad-inspired bodyguards would be pretty cool ngl.

[@mybutthasteeth1347]

-Having bad day -Sees Synonymous has posted a video -Day significantly improved

[@colemclean1676]

The last time the Shi were mentioned was in Kellogg's memory in fallout 4

[@Synonymous101]

Not chronologically it wasn't

[@stormhawkdude]

So Kellogg was a Shi Enforcer 75~ish years ago?(I guess 75 because 60 years with Shawn, the cartoonish villainy of the Institute wouldn't trust their brand new recruit, who held *them* at gun point to join, with what was supposed to be a delegate extraction mission) There's only a 46 year time difference between 2 and 4, shoot Mama Murphy would have been old enough to likely have memories of that time depending on the Chem damage. Between Ending 3(and the possible subnote that the Enclave Survivors tagged SF with another payload if VB/NV development records are to be considered canon) and the Great Khans best possible ending in New Vegas, I think it would be cool to see a combined coalition of Eastern Influence in the Fallout Wastelands: Follower History, Shi Engineering, Khan tactics. A new Empire between Idaho/Wyoming/Montana. Maybe a modified Radaway Flora concoction rebuilding the eastern Rockies.

[@SkyFly19853]

Another interesting video from the lore...

[@Born2DoubleUp]

I'm here! 😎 Great video, just posting a comment to show some support! Keep up the good work. 🤙

[@JadenWhite]

they sound like they would rival the institute

[@CrudeSaint]

Interesting faction with a super computer being its strength, damn the railroad wish.

[@a.monach7602]

Late reply, but what makes P.A.M. a liability? From how Emperor is described in the vid, they're used in pretty much the same way.

[@DracoSafarius]

@@a.monach7602 Much, much smaller operation. PAM helps predict stuff for them to track or avoid things, but since they're essentially small guerilla outfits it's very limited in scope. On the Shi side you have a powerful state with essentially prewar production capability and research. Having a hyper intelligent analysis and prediction system for that is incomparably better than PAM, even if their performance and potential function is similar.

[@daemianmatthews2062]

The Shi would make a good main faction similar to Caesar's Legion

[@unnamedshadow1866]

Considering the decline of the NCR i think the Shi succeeded. Would explain why the NCR is in such a weak State. The Shi are expanding on the North, there is the Legion on the East. The return of the Brotherhood just made things even worse. And the Enclave is slowly also returning. The NCR is surrounded by too many enemies

[@robertwilliams373]

I've never got to play either of the original fallouts games but they are soooooo rich in lore its crazy and the factions are more interesting in my opinion

[@Kevinopn]

America: "Don't worry citizens! we have the G.E.C.K for rebuild our society!" China: "Nuclear Submarine will do the trick."

[@snakebait245]

Considering the NCR has control over all California, it wouldn't be too extreme to consider that they were integrated with the NCR. Perhaps they even helped the NCR and such, considering the republics manufacturing capabilities

[@daltongarrett7117]

damn I guess getting off at midnight has its perks

[@jacemckinley6696]

To a point, the Shi remind me of the institute.

[@tonyanthony5105]

Dr. Dr. Dr. “That’s not my hand Dr.”

[@lordmoldybutt6361]

Well done 👏

[@jaredlucev2705]

Bethesda needs everyone to forget about the Shi, or risk the player base noticing how many times they have recycled the whole "advanced faction secretly controlled by a computer" plot.

[@erispapps9929]

A war between the shi empire and the brotherhood would be a great plot for a new fallout game. Maybe the shi gather up some enclave and/or institute survivors to beef up their technical prowess and in doing so piss off the brotherhood.

[@Horesmi]

One of the few cities to refuse to pay taxes to the NCR and survive. I think their state is similar to New Vegas, but much more secure. NCR would love to annex them, but can't because Shi has a bad case of pewpewtitus. So the two nations say they are "friends" while in reality the Shi is getting the better deal - they get access to NCR markets while enjoying their security. Perhaps Shi even has some military bases around NCR to make sure it doesn't get overrun by some raider army.

[@alrecks619]

i'm guessing that's why NCR enjoyed some of the high tech stuff.

[@trailerparkwerewolf910]

They probably already took some heavy hits and Kellogg finished off the remnants

[@mahamann7734]

Yeah always wondered what the shi is also the shi paint in fo4 is cool :)

[@ns0557212]

Thank you for this! They are very forgettable yet are some of the most powerful... I wonder where they went? 🤔

[@randomguyblank1616]

I really like the idea that the Shi become another wasteland powerhouse, the Van Buren stuff about San Fransisco blowing up kinda lines up with Chris Avelone's imagined canon ending for lonesome road, that both the legion and NCR are nuked. From what I hear Chris didn't like how fallout was moving away from the desolate wasteland, and more towards warring states. So he basically wanted every scrap of hope for civilization rising again erased from Fallout. I personally disagree with this, if Chris even had this sentiment, because I think there's simply way more interesting stories to be told with warring nations rather than small bands of survivors scraping to survive.

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

The Shi build a society with the former Great Khans from Fallout: New Vegas, after you convince the Khans to make their own destiny.