The "Kanon" (Keith Baker canon) rebuttal: Shifters aren't watered-down lycanthropes in the lore of Eberron. Some lycanthropes are ascended shifters, others are a mutation caused by the daelkyr (eldritch aberrations) or by the fiendish Wild Heart, neither of which needs shifters to function. The Eldeen Reaches has its own kind of artificer ("primal" rather than "arcane" in styling but mechanically identical), and shifters would certainly be that kind of artificer. Also worth noting that the pictured shifter holding a scroll is Eberron's "iconic character" for wizards, a shifter wizard named Baristi. The shifting traits are not hereditary in lore but represent the animal totem the shifter is closest to. So two longtooth shifters could have a razorclaw child if said child connected more to the "razorclaw" totem The Lycanthropic Inquisition's main issue was that it was a WAR against a much larger, more virulent group of lycanthropes which were attacking BOTH the shifters (whose own lycanthropes were turning evil and violent) and the the common folk of the region. The Church of the Silver Flame came from Thrane to fight the lycanthropes, allied with the shifters who were lycanthrope fighting experts and it was the eventual discovery of the first killed lycanthropes reverting to shifters after death which drove a wedge between the initial alliance between the three groups (and yes, the templar, the commoners and the shifters are three distinct groups here). Once the lycanthrope threat was contained and the curse stopped being spread by afflicted lycanthropes and only by natural again, the templar left . . . and THEN the commoners started exterminating shifters. Types of Lycanthropes and how they relate to Shifters, as well as Keith Baker's description of the conflicts : keith-baker.com/ifaq-lycanthropes/ The sections which detail death camps and a need for the the Keeper to clarify that shifters were people are written by people who are not Keith Baker. And when those people write stuff, it tends to conflict with the themes of Eberron, usually to give a clear bad guy or return to tired old tropes from other settings. The Silver Flame doesn't need to be an analogue for the Catholic Church, organized religion can be the bad guy without a single "lawful good in name only, corruption and witch burnings" group. Even ignoring the Kanon timeline that the shifters helped first and then paranoia caused a souring of relations which only boiled over after the Silver Flame left, the key part of the Inquisition was that there was a VERY REAL material threat to living beings in western Aundair at that time, and fighting supernatural evil is the Silver Flame's duty. How much bleed into killing people who didn't deserve it you want to put in is up to the DM at the end of the day, but far too many people are reading real world parallels as a matter of course.
@Nemo124173 жыл бұрын
I'd also add that 5th Edition lore, both canon and Exploring Eberron, implies that rather than being descended by lycanthropes, it is the other way around. That the natural gifts of the shifters were corrupted into the curse of lycanthropy, either by an overlord or by the daelkyr known as Drynn the Corrupter. Keith Baker also has a blog about the events that led to the lycanthropic purge.
@atlascove18102 жыл бұрын
link?
@DaDunge Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was under the impression that lycantropes was corrupted versionsnof shifters not the other way around.
@DaDunge Жыл бұрын
@@atlascove1810 I think this is stated in exploring Eberron.
@CONTINGENCY_sys3 жыл бұрын
Cool. I like that subscriber frame. Eberron lore. Love Eberron, ran it since it first came out. The lycanthropic purge of The Silverflame was a hefty weight on our 15yr campaign. We had characters with lycanthropy that helped locate and protect those shifters from the holy regime. Loved the whole storyline. I played a silverblood from 3.5. Fun times. Great vid as usual 👍
@decomposingbrains3 жыл бұрын
Shifter barbarian, played one in theros using the bestial soul subclass, one of my favourite characters yet
@terramartin11413 жыл бұрын
Good video, love seeing more Eberron! Just for a little clarification on some stuff, it's ambiguous if shifters or lycanthropes came first, and many shifters claim lycanthropes were created when the wild heart (overlord representing the fear of nature) corrupted some shifters into being lycanthropes. Also, the Silver Flame as a whole didn't purge out shifters, but there were some zealots (especially the pure flame in Aundair) were heavily against shifters and murdered many of them. I only say this because the silver flame as a whole gets a bad wrap for the actions of some of its smaller and more zealous splinter sects.
@antonioiglesias4273 жыл бұрын
Sorry but it doesn't matter what we say or think anymore, all that stuff pre-2014 doesn't exist in the minds of WOTC. It's not realized canon regardless of what I hold in my heart.
@MicaiahBaron3 жыл бұрын
@@antonioiglesias427 Wrong video maybe? Would have been more useful on the last one, rather than just replying to a comment here being depressing out of nowhere.
@MyWoWAccount1003 жыл бұрын
YAY MORE EBERRON!
@Fedes473 жыл бұрын
Woooaaaahh!! Eberron lore? Very nice Jordan!
@matthewvandevort91363 жыл бұрын
Eberron? Hallelujah!!
@ralanr73 жыл бұрын
I could have sworn there was a sizable shifter population in the underbelly of Sharn. Maybe I imagined it.
@Ragemod143 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like that can happen a lot. I imagined Drow and Planetouched had more of a presence on Khorvaire. Not the case.
@FrostWolfPack3 жыл бұрын
Ye Sharn has quite large population of shifter compared to other cities, I think its cause how huge Sharn is and its melting pot nature.
@macoppy65712 жыл бұрын
Naturally. Sharn is Steampunk version of Shadowrun/Cyberpunk. They make great Longshoremen at the Skydocks of Precarious. There are a few that work as Inquisitives, merchants, and professionals.
@DaDunge Жыл бұрын
I mean you'll find all sorts in Khyber's gate.
@williambryan83413 жыл бұрын
Wow!! I love this Eberron series. Even when you mess up a bit 'cause we're all learning. As far as I'm concerned, nailing it!!
@antonioiglesias4273 жыл бұрын
I always had an interest in Shifter Tracker Bennin Silverclaw joining the Silver Crusade to hunt lycanthropes.
@charchuk74563 жыл бұрын
4e has Minotaurs in PHB3, another good choice for Huge Yakman.
@GunnGuardian3 жыл бұрын
Perfect I have a Shifter player in my group! Always good to have more lore on them.
@filimonpoptudor7993 жыл бұрын
Well you just got another subscriber Love the content Thank you for helping me broaden my dnd games and lore
@tomjack10000003 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah more Eberron content
@jordanbarber63763 жыл бұрын
I love shifters and I love Eberron!
@nicholaspaul70003 жыл бұрын
Yay! More Eberron contacts! ! !
@ToasteBlade3 жыл бұрын
I watched the whole playlist of Eberron and I want to say thank you for doing all this! It really helped me prepare for my new campaign and fall in love with Eberron's lore!
@Jorphdan3 жыл бұрын
Oh nice! I've been listening to an Eberron podcast called the manifest zone. Really ignited my interest in Eberron. I should make more videos on it.
@garryame40083 жыл бұрын
Yay, new lore video! I always enjoy learning more about Eberron
@-POISON-3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Eberron love! Currently in the Oracle of War campaign and looking forward to more Eberron videos.
@CloudCobra223 жыл бұрын
Love Eberron Lore, please, more
@Kugo3 жыл бұрын
darrow is gonna love thisssss
@brightglory57343 жыл бұрын
Thank both you and the ever silent PH. Shifters are my favorite
@lelandwhitehead563 жыл бұрын
Made your sign go up by +1! Great video!
@Jorphdan3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@meikahidenori3 жыл бұрын
Omg thank you for this. It's something that gets glossed over in the setting but when you have players who want to play shifters you really need this information to help flesh your own interpretation of it out for the game. Thank you again, even if it's like shifter light information any information is welcome. (Would love more stuff on them but wizards don't seem to want to touch Eberron unless its to gloss over bits or remove Eberron specific stuff from books - Tasha's cauldron of everything felt as if it did a dirty on removing the only good shifter picture from the artificer class from the original book and then making the beast barbarian pages later look like a shifter but explicitly saying they where human. It's like wizards want the race gone and if that's the case, just be honest with players.) I have a alchemist shifter npc who's an Archeologist.... he's actually very fun. Might do a full PC build of one when I get to play and not DM.
@takeru31593 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of shifters or any other race for that matter being able to possess aberrant dragonmarks. It can help mark that individual as something special and lead to numerous story opportunities. Just off the top of my hand, you can have a sect of the church that still sees the Silver Purge as a good thing put out a bit on the shifter because they see his dragonmark as a threat.
@Jorphdan3 жыл бұрын
For sure, them not having dragonmarks like ever and all of a sudden one (your player) has one. That would be a cool story. I was referring them on mass having them.
@NoNamesLeft01023 жыл бұрын
Jack Hughman. Clearly, he's not a shifter. What shifter would be named hughman?
@Kakkarot2113 жыл бұрын
love eberron stuff man, thanks for this...shifters remind me of sabertooth from marvel
@UnlimitedBlakeWorks3 жыл бұрын
More eberron!
@billberndtson3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, J
@leem43863 жыл бұрын
hell yeah, leaving a like for Eberron!
@luffysh3 жыл бұрын
Eberron, baby!
@JohnThurner3 жыл бұрын
My next character is a Shifter, so this is just in time for me. 👍👍
@clarkside44933 жыл бұрын
Oh, sweet, Eberron lore! YEAH! I mean, they threw out the Forgotten Realms lore, so it makes sense. But, yeah! Eberron!
@ThePeasentMonarch3 жыл бұрын
Woah we are at 99,000! Holy hell I remember when you started your forgotten realms anthology series 😳
@Jorphdan3 жыл бұрын
It's been a fun four years! Excited for the big 100k!
@xaviermantha633 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@paradoxical9983 жыл бұрын
A short wolf Shifter barbarian using punch daggers is basically Wolverine.
@danielgoldberg53573 жыл бұрын
Would love to see videos on the more noir, pulp, or steampunk-ish aspects of Eberron. Perhaps starting with a video on artificers and the technology of Eberron?
@KidK323 жыл бұрын
lol There is actually a "Shifter Artificer" Miniature in the Eberron Set.
@meikahidenori3 жыл бұрын
Yes and it looks terribly painted. 😔
@dantemitchell72223 жыл бұрын
Question how do you get to ravenloft from eberron
@Jorphdan3 жыл бұрын
the Mournland, here's a supplement! www.dmsguild.com/product/364000/Dread-Metrol-Into-the-Mists--An-Eberron---Ravenloft-Crossover?affiliate_id=728035
@dantemitchell72223 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@47thStreet2 жыл бұрын
I played a Shifter Path of the Beast Barbarian for a while and it was FANTASTIC. Sadly he got killed by a Sahuagin leader..
@michaelhockman34203 жыл бұрын
Karmos Render is such a cool name, ngl. I’ve noticed there are a lot of named npcs in eberron but it’s hard to find info on them, which is disappointing because it would be cool to explore the world through their eyes. Is this something you’d consider in the future?
@aceundead47503 жыл бұрын
Did you say raspberry pie? Because that's what it sounded like, and now i want some raspberry pie
@Jorphdan3 жыл бұрын
I did! It's a small single board hackable pc. raspberry pi
@jaymaxwell86453 жыл бұрын
Can not save this video to any playlist for some reason.
@miquando50332 жыл бұрын
What is the standing of Silver Flame regarding Warforged?
@Jorphdan2 жыл бұрын
A warforged silver flame cleric sounds like a character searching for it's place in Eberron
@frostdragonking53363 жыл бұрын
Hey Jorphdan, can you at some point consider making lore videos about ebberon?
@jhund810013 жыл бұрын
Jorphdan, do you know if Eberron will have its lore retconned like forgotton realms?
@Jorphdan3 жыл бұрын
I doubt it, I think it was always edition specific. Everything in Dungeons & Dragons belongs in Eberron (that's the official statement), which means certain races or classes are never restricted from Eberron. You just need to figure out how they fit in. A Tiefling might be from the demon wastes, or a dragonborn a product of the mournland. Since every official game starts two years after the last war, there isn't much to retcon.
@jhund810013 жыл бұрын
@@Jorphdan Awesome thank you! Hey, I wanted to ask, could you do a video covering the Golden Skins of the World Serpent? I love the lore about those scrolls.
@boldbearings3 жыл бұрын
New sub here. Continue to be excellent 🙂
@Jorphdan3 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@joluoto3 жыл бұрын
So in my setting there is Norse- like culture that had a lycantropy problem a millennia ago. Now it's not a problem anymore, turns out a couple of generations in and you can control yourself. So now there are vikings raiding everywhere that are a mix of humans, shifters and full lycantropes.
@mywaminecraft73743 жыл бұрын
5e reset does that mean the weave was never damaged and the limits never applied on 10+ level spells?
@tobbexxxxx3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is the audio kinda weird? I get some slight eerie echoes...
@Jorphdan3 жыл бұрын
hmm? not sure? I didn't hear anything with editing... Can you give me a time stamp?
@tobbexxxxx3 жыл бұрын
@@Jorphdan I experience during the whole video. First I thought it was just my speaker but I tried headphones and it is still there.
@Jorphdan3 жыл бұрын
Ok I think I know what you're talking about. I'll go over my microphone and it's settings. Thanks for the heads up!
@tobbexxxxx3 жыл бұрын
@@Jorphdan you are welcome. Thank you for all the awesome content!
@saiyanape60153 жыл бұрын
Brad Moonape.. Beasthide Shifther (Gorilla) Figther and Druid Sheperd Inheritor , a piece of land and need to protect it ...
@JRussellDay3 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for any raspberry pi projects lol
@josephmarrow55983 жыл бұрын
I wish I count subscribe multiple times to see how the counter moves
@josephmarrow55983 жыл бұрын
Any chance for krynn lore?
@Jorphdan3 жыл бұрын
Most likely! I'm just a busy person. But I imagine next year they'll announce a dragonlance setting and by that time I'll hopefully had made a few videos on Krynn.