The Ship Time Forgot

[@michelekerwin9611]

My grandfather was Andrew Kraft, the 1st mate. My mom never got over losing him. He had asked her if he should take a land job, but she was afraid there wouldn't be money for college and advocated he continue sailing. He went out, and the ship went down. Her guilt ate her up.

[@BeanieScooter]

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[@kennethlippertshauser3376]

I'm so sorry for your loss God bless you and your family 🙏

[@rottenroads1982]

All I have got to say is that the Henry Steinbrenner was rocking that very cool Pilothouse on a tower design. Also, yes, Lake Freighters are cool with the classic design.

[@MattyIce250]

The Steinbrenner has just recently been found (September 2023). They are now investigating further into the sinking.

[@markthomas4083]

Would love to see any and all updates on the Steinbrenner. This video was presented two years ago. Great narration, I appreciate the details as well as the photos.

[@rrmike90]

Fantastic presentation, I really enjoyed the story and history.

[@ClifffsVictory]

When I sailed in the ‘50s, one rumor had it that the Steinbrenner sank because she did have enough canvas hatch covers. This seems unlikely, because it would have come out in the Coast Guard investigation. Thanks for an excellent video! In ‘56 while working on the Cliffs Victory, we had considerable damage from a Lake Superior storm in late Nov. She rolled so bad that power and the gyro were out temporarily. The ‘old man’ thought we could outrun the storm. Many crew members put on life vests during that storm. In ‘66, I was working at the Port Huron Social Security office and had the sad task of coordinating with the FBI disaster squad in identifying the missing crew from the sinking of the Daniel J. Morrell, so that social security survivor benefits could be paid to the families with young children. The “recovered” appeared as if they were in a deep calming sleep. I can still see their faces today, resting in peace.

[@grahamgreene779]

Wow, thanks for the post - I always appreciate hearing from people who had firsthand experience with the subject being discussed. It helps to humanize events that sometimes seem to take place with nameless, faceless people - which obviously isn't the case.

[@justonsullivan3807]

Imagine that, the weather man was wrong, happens alot on the Lakes.

[@livinglikeananimal]

This is a lake freighter story I've never heard before and an amazing rescue story at that! Thank you for sharing this!

[@garypellerin5576]

I was an engineer on Sykes for may seasons between 1981 to 2000. I saw the plaque but didn't know the full story behind it. Thanks for posting. The Kinsman line had a bad reputation even while I sailed. Spare parts, tools and necessary materials were in short supply.

[@andynemes661]

Hi Gary, I was a Oiler/ firemen on the Sykes and worked with you! Andy Nemes

[@johnmarshall8112]

Great lecture! The history of lake freighters is a favorite subject of mine. Thanks for sharing a fascinating and little known story!

[@johnengland8619]

Thanks for the great story

[@lakeflutterbyart]

Thanks for making this video. The newspaper clippings and photos were interesting. My great grandfather was George Wiseman (3rd mate), and I’m from Superior.

[@paulh7589]

Living and boating on the Gulf Coast- yet growing up on the Great lakes is almost funny. Nobody seems to understand just how dangerous the Great Lakes are. In my experience most people don't have a f#cking clue. When my Wife saw Lake Michigan at Sleeping Bear for the first time I thought she was going to choke on her tongue. She is from the Gulf and had no idea. No idea. I am proud to be from Michigan, and was proud to show her where I'm from.

[@dabluesgarage]

The Henry Steinbrenner when lost in 1953 was a fleet mate of the E. C. Collins. Later the Collins became the J. B. Ford. They are breaking up the bow of the J. B. Ford this year in Duluth,MN. The Collins was not a sister ship, but did resemble the Steinbrenner in many ways. Jenks Shipbuilding also built some other famous wrecked boats like the John B. Cowle( sunk is collision on Lakes Superior 1909), and the SS Eastland that claimed 800 lives on the Chicago River when it rolled over in 1915. Some of the celebrations post launching of these vessels were held at the Harrington Hotel (now a historic landmark) in Port Huron, MI.

[@BillAlexander-cv6oj]

Another amazing Great Lakes Story, Jenks Ship Builders from Port Huron Built The Ill Fated Eastland, Called the Titanic of the Lakes , because of the Number of Lives Lost, I live blocks off the Black River By the 10th street Bridge, where it was launched. many more Great Stories to be told and wrecks to Be found......

[@g-man7883]

I would like to book a passage on a good freighter during a bad sea. Where could I get info, folks?

[@bigmonmagoomba9634]

Kudos to you. Good job.

[@ajbaumgart4774]

Wow that's incredible I never heard of this vessel or anything on it before all I can say is wow what a story it's a amazing peace of great lakes history

[@jamesnelson6980]

For further reading on the HENRY STEINBRENNER and the rest if the Kinsman fleet, pick up a copy of a book called THE KINSMAN LINES by authors Dick Wicklund and Skip Gillam. Its an excellent read, loaded with pictures and find out how many HENRY STEINBRENNER's followed the original that now rests on the bottom of Lake Superior. A very good and informative video. Thank you!!

[@stewyelite]

Great detail, subbed xxx

[@timothyjacob8714]

I believe a Steinbrenner survivor went on sail on the Morrell and was of course lost.

[@markgregoryrugman7136]

Hey wait a second if some of the crew said that some of the cargo hatches clamps were folty the the cost gaurd is at fault because they didn't do their job properly to make sure the ship was sea worthy

[@maggiespeaks8555]

“… once water gets into the cargo hold it is next to impossible to pump it out…” that is definitely not a true statement, pumps have to work very effectively because ships by their nature always leak a bit and have to be able to remove water that comes in. However, with the leaf type hatch covers back then, without having canvas on them, if you lose a few leaves, your pumps will be overwhelmed. You correctly mention that fact, but pumps on the great lakes ship under normal conditions, have no problem pumping water out. It’s when they start losing hatches, or getting large holes is when the pumps would get overwhelmed, but only then. Otherwise very good history lesson on a definitely forgotten shipwreck.

[@bigmonmagoomba9634]

The ship was named for the great grandfather of former NY Yankees owner George Steinbrenner.

[@michaelsnodgrass1808]

The Steinbrenners owned a lot of ship building yards. George owned American shipbuilding in Lorain Ohio.

[@jbsmith966]

Lakers tend to sink so fast that there is no time to launch lifeboats. That is why when there are survivors they are found on rafts

[@katharper655]

POOR LITTLE HENRY! POOR SAD, BAD-LUCK LITTLE HENRY. BUT SHE'S A SURVIVOR...SORTA. If a boat can have a HUMANIZED PERSONALITY...he would be a little man in droopy overalls and a hangdog look about him. POOR HENRY!

[@kensenzig5116]

And then there was the Sidney Smith which ended up in pieces in the Detroit river.

[@P42_foamer]

Ironic fact: a crew member of the Henry survived the sinking, would die onboard the sinking of the Daniel J Morrel during its sinking

[@HarryMarsee-fw9ot]

I don't think it was a "bad boat" it just had incompetent crews.

[@danzmitrovich6250]

There playing the demolition derby

[@JonKorpi-o9w]

Not the boat it's poor seamanship a boats only as good as it's crew

[@Miguel_and_The_Microbes]

The topic is called😂😂😂

[@graybeardproductions2597]

Who's driving this thing?!?