The Shocking Tale of Nelson Lee in Comanche Captivity, Escape 1858 - Full History Documentary

[@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul]

Wait a minute. Didn't the Comanches battle Apaches, Spaniards and Mexicans before taking on the Americans?

[@peterpim6260]

In a sense one could say the Americans took on the Comanches.

[@SimonMcGrath-x2x]

Wait a minute didn't Americans wipe out most Indians thru murder, starvation, giving them thousands of blankets in winter dosed with the small pox virus, killing a million buffalo for no other reason than to wipe out the Indians who had lived in virtual peace for many many centuries. Wait a minute, please don't just throw crappy comments out there do just a little reading first. Who knows more this guy or u whose only info is what ur mate said or I saw it on de telly

[@danielshy9176]

What movies ? Hollywood hit it right on with some. But not all were Savage, but who cared to look into this? Money had to be made on this they needed stories And heros.

[@lyngreen2217]

I've been led to believe that the Commanches were very much at war with the Apaches who were originally at war with the Mexicans. As the Apaches were all but decimated by fighting the Commanches, they joined forces with their former foes, the Mexicans in the hope of defeating them. As for their fierce and cruel ways, as the narrator says, the Commanches were largely disregarded by the other tribes and were described as a "short, stocky people, unattractive, with an unkempt appearance." How true this is, I'm not sure. If it is, it sounds very much like "short person syndrome!

[@captain54526]

Warfare you say, if these Indian tribes lived in such harmony why was this warfare so honed to perfection on a horse. Indian tribes were in constant war with each other and all written about!

[@ScottRagland]

warring one tribe/clan/group/whatever w another, tryna get closest to white traders. realsies. not so much for land, nor for resources thereon, but for trade opportunities galore, as well as wealth earned thereby also earning many their ticket to civilized paradises myriad. as w every single current day 'protected' 'indigenous' stone agers but for the Sentinalese, lol, they allllll want the hell outta their jungle/desert/island hells, and into the land of home A/C, and clean running water, and tik tok, aaaaand: realsies...

[@marisamartin3664]

Reversion history

[@paradoxstudios6639]

The white man gifted the horse to the Comanches and all native tribes at the time of early explorations.

[@SimonMcGrath-x2x]

Being proficient on a horse was a right of passage as a teenager it doesn't mean ur doin it for war and of course there were skirmishes look at ur civil war shit happens but mostly they got on and remember there was a lot less people then and a whole lot of space. People have always fought. My country England bloody hell that's all we ever did

[@hithere_1967]

@@paradoxstudios6639so, before that, they all lived in Shangri-la, holding hands and singing We are the World?

[@GusShredny]

Indian called “ spotted leopard “? No Leopards in the Americas . Did the Comanche subscribe to National Geographic?

[@thebaronofbelco2615]

It’s AI, you can always tell with stuff like this, but it’s getting harder and harder to spot some of the real advanced videos, it’s scary

[@dirkvanerp7332]

I know a chief called "Cigar Store Indian"

[@frankmash7472]

American Jaguar are spotted.

[@matydrum]

​@@thebaronofbelco2615 it's not AI, can you Google things? I did. The book did come out in 1858. But it's been regarded as a hoax for a very long time as many descriptions don't match reality.

[@matydrum]

​@@thebaronofbelco2615 it's not AI, can you Google things? I did. The book did come out in 1858. But it's been regarded as a hoax for a very long time as many descriptions don't match reality.

[@otfinoskiotfinoski8856]

The Comanche were savages but notice how the narrator excuses away their cruelty.What a fool.

[@peterpim6260]

Well, the savages would have said YOU were the civilized fool, and perhaps they were dead right. Those people had to laugh away physical pain of all kind, while You would probably not survive the extraction of a foul tooth without soothing medicine.

[@DanHater]

He dreams of one day scalping a white man apparently

[@dirkvanerp7332]

@@peterpim6260 I knew a medicine man once, called himself "Organic Rhubarb", but then the city closed down the homeless encampment, he went away?

[@mediumtouch1650]

@@peterpim6260; Nope just savages, nothing more.

[@001Anga]

Savagen... Who were the savagen? The comanches protected and fought for their land Commancheria from the relentless pressure of land thiefs. From 1840 to 1870 the white intruders had killed of 20 millioner of their life stock and decimated the commanches by 98%. From 20 thousand to 400 herded in to Ft.Sill. Thats the definition of savagen and greed for other peoples land. That is genocide.

[@Mickyfrench65]

They weren't called savages for nothing ....

[@BigFists2024]

Savages!!! Cool we lived one with nature!! 💪🏼 our fighting spirit is savage ❤ Hellyea we lived together with brother bear brother bison 🦬 o and we had Giants!! Yall had a king 🤴🏼 who took all your harvest lol didn’t bathe the bubonic plague was terrible damm just wash your hands and azz

[@rgg7260]

This is a fantastical story about Nelson Lee, buying a pocket watch prior to his journey saved his life, indians thought he was a medicine man when his watch would chime in the afternoon .Out of over 10 books on the untamed wild west ive read this stands out as the most brutal and adventurous ,he was traded like a horse 2 times and he escaped after his hung over by rum chief was caught off guard while drinking muddy water. Lee hammered his last captor with his own tomahawk on the head. Then escaped into the southwest texas more less. Half dead after some 30 days in the desert he made into Mexico and was saved by a vaqueros hunting party ...i wish Nelson Lee would have left a map of his escape so i could one day try and duplicate it...of course big dream of mine ...thanks for the upload

[@carywest9256]

Why would you want to go into Mexico? Nowadays, it's the cartels that would get ya. I'm from Texas, so l know what l'm talking about. You have no money for ransom, it's Deguello for you. Keep ya butt on this side of the Rio Grande, there's more meanness down there than you can shake a stick at. Don't know your age, me l'm 62. I used to cross quite a bit back in the '80s. Still kept on my toes, and ever vigil. If yer a youngin', ask some folks about what l'm saying that are older than you!

[@Twobears49]

Really ?

[@Vaquero4382]

Let's be honest; The Comanche were just as busy pushing the Apache off of their ancestral lands.

[@jedjones7661]

Oh but wait a minute The Comanches claimed they own the land did they purchase it from others or did they take it by conquest I'm so sick of the double standards double standards for everything

[@AliensAnonymous]

Lighten up, Francis.

[@________o6474]

​@@AliensAnonymousExactly.

[@jedjones7661]

@@AliensAnonymous BS lighten up You can't handle the truth Go back in the closet

[@j.p8259]

Lol ​@@AliensAnonymous

[@kai-stefanlanca1255]

The double double standards double standards?

[@geofffelsing1283]

The Comanche; what a nice bunch of folks.

[@dirkvanerp7332]

@@geofffelsing1283 kinda "Homie" and down to earth, one with sadism?

[@JayWegter]

As an illustrator, I was amazed at the beauty, and lighting quality of many of the images. Are they movie still shots plugged int A.I app?

[@michaelredd4881]

Amazing story, especially his escape.😮

[@ScottRagland]

*ahem* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Lee_(raconteur) ;-)

[@fredgandolfi2356]

The natives were abusing natives long before the Europeans came, across the entire American continent. The Europeans took over because they had higher tech. It is as simple as that. Nobody was kind, wise, civilized, noble. Iron age predators bested stone age predators. Stay in school kids. Learn. Then learn some more.

[@mockatu]

The Europeans had better viruses. Had it been the other way around like in most of Africa. Malaria, tse tse fly etc. a tenuous hold on the land by the Europeans would have been most likely.

[@patrickmahony8641]

This is crazy justifying the cruilty as something to be explained and dismissed as indian intelligence

[@garybalasa3158]

Just as well they were nearly exterminated

[@mtwiner9981]

Exactly, imagine America doing the same at the end of WWII. Yes, there was violence against member of the SS but I'd call that justice. This is pure cruelty.

[@mathewsawyer4811]

It’s more of an understanding. What would you do if someone invaded here? Just because the population wasn’t technologically sophisticated doesn’t mean they didn’t deserve to be left alone. Let’s say China invaded and says it’s divine destiny to take out land and change the government? Would you stand by? I think most Americans would become “savages” to keep the Chinese away, don’t you? It’s the same shit. The colonies continuously took more and more land. How is that justifiable? Not only that, but they killed millions of buffalo that were self sustainable food for the natives in the plains for fur and other shit- there’s photos of stacks of thousands just rotting.

[@buckskin64]

In the movies they only want peace and love🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂

[@dirkvanerp7332]

@@buckskin64 and "Firewater"

[@HistStory-ns]

An extraordinary tale of survival! Nelson Lee truly embodies resilience and determination. Who wants to learn more about the mighty Comanche tribe?

[@nelsoncorponelson]

Tribo Chayenne Cacique Takaiak .pele .vermelha .viveu. Na.maior parte na California.nao sabe ano hohe vive em espirito. Protegendo seu filho amado Nelson. .no Brasil.

[@ScottRagland]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Lee_(raconteur)

[@vincentdevitt7685]

Amazing how he still had his cowboy hat after thres years of captivity !

[@MikeS-um1nm]

They don't make hats like they used to!

[@danielprout3837]

Amazing story

[@ScottRagland]

'story', surley; 'amazing', not so much, fren: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Lee_(raconteur)

[@scottkelly7051]

The states that make up the Great Plains are Texas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, North and South Dakota Wyoming and Montana.

[@JerryJoyce-j9e]

The history of human nature is unchanging: every group names themselves the human beings ergo one outside the group is not a human being and fair game for every indignity.

[@LorneHillman]

How many times can you repeat yourself

[@Longdongsilver-oy6nj]

No one forcing you to watch it

[@SMC01ful]

Erm, this was good, but why did you repeat all of the stuff about being fed burning horse meat, falling off horses and being tied up? Why not just skip to Lee's own word? We already know the Comanches are exerting psychological dominance. No need to talk about the Comanches persecution of enemies repeatedly either. It undoes a clever use of graphics and good narration. The story is widely considered bullshit.

[@g.sheppard5270]

Comanche gone. White man still here !

[@vincentdevitt7685]

Comanche still here !

[@vincentdevitt7685]

Comanche still here !

[@AmericanRefugee212]

Im not white but glad i live in a white mans world lol. Thanks to God.

[@jedjones7661]

They claimed it was their land how did they get it did they purchase it hell no they killed the people that possessed it but now they claim we stole their land to the victors go to spoils

[@BigFists2024]

@@AmericanRefugee212what world is that? Where. Is it!! Weird then go to Europe

[@davidescozzi9885]

Very Nice and interesting

[@altonparr747]

i could have told that story in five minutes

[@Twobears49]

i could have some it up in two words

[@carywest9256]

@@Twobears49 And what's that? There's three words, spottin'ya one!

[@MarkSlabiejko]

Haha haha

[@Jake-ky9ed]

Wonder how the Comanche knew what a leapord was? One was named “spotted leapord”??

[@ricf9592]

7:37 Amazing! The Comanche on the right is wearing a Rolex. Must have a good swing. One hundred years in the future he'd get one playing golf.

[@seanoisin4642]

My gran mother in law lived amarillo. As a young girl she exited her house to see decorations on the gate posts of their neighbors opposite. As she approached joyfully to investigate she found they were the heads of their neighbors. America was made in blood, quite recently, which affects it till today.

[@germaineprien7691]

Sounds worse than horrific, can't imagine surviving something like this...😮

[@LanceIngram-cg3ej]

Great vid! Is it possible the Comanche were an ancient vestige of Mongol tribes that came through Siberia? Their mastery of horses seems genetic in its evolution.

[@GeoCalifornian]

Comanches, the Indian Lords of the Southern Plains.

[@azdrifter3968]

So, one of the guys who set up the whole trip that got everyone unalived, was the only survivor of the trip?

[@playinragz8183]

This narrator telling us the sick torture of the captives by Comanche was somehow ok? What? 14:00

[@paulbirks6440]

The cruelty was part of their culture ,they also were trying to protect their way of life ,why should settlers be classed as any better ,with their invasion of the native American homelands ,and murder of its tribes

[@vincentdevitt7685]

Amazing show his cowboy hat survived after three years of captivating !

[@kai-stefanlanca1255]

How come a plains native is named Spotted Leopard. There are no leopards round that region.

[@matydrum]

Just looked it up: the book this is taken from is widely regarded as a hoax fir the many inaccuracies in it.

[@kanonierable]

KZbin is flooded with these AI made videos. I don't think this is by accident but to systematically dumb down the masses. Just look at the comments and how people lap up the bs that so well meets their crude ideas about "survival of the fittest" mixed with pseudoscientific kitchen table psychology and pushing manipulative "historical justice".

[@kravin74]

These stories would be so much more powerful and entertaining if the narrator didn't inject the excuses and guilt trips

[@dirkvanerp7332]

There was an Indian called "wooden leg", does this prove a pirate connection?

[@thatguyjoe007]

Comanche history began with the White settlers. Before that time, nothing is known about them. That's because they never kept any record of their history, and that's because the White settlers hadn't taught them how to read and write yet.

[@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul]

No, we knew about them. They were Shoshones who were pushed out of the Northern Rockies, arriving in Texas sometime after the Spaniards got there. They fought both the Spanish and the Apaches, defeating both.

[@thatguyjoe007]

@@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul So they stole the land from the Spaniards and the Apaches? I thought only White settlers did that.

[@tonynordlander9626]

did he escape or they let him free?

[@JohnLara-ir8cl]

What brand pocket watch ?

[@margyeoman3564]

Disgusting cruelity that 2 century later explanations do nothing to actually explain in any believable or forgiving way.

[@DMiller-h8l]

And the Indians claim they were mistreated?!

[@nelsoncorponelson]

Gostaria. Que fale. Da Tribo Chayennes. EDo Cacique.Takaiak. pele vermelha .viveu. Na CALIFORNIA. na quele tempo. Nao havia. como.ter escritura. Ou .fotocrafia.

[@Sam-kn2mm]

They should have fought harder!!!! But what is very interesting, we stole their land, killed them, lied to them but they don’t demand reparations??

[@blaiseplaise]

A few people being mistreated compared to an entire civilization being decimated... Yeah, I'd say they were

[@knrst9061]

⁠@@blaiseplaiseIt wasn't just a few people. Tribes had been doing this to eachother for thousands of years.

[@blaiseplaise]

@knrst9061 yes, but again, compare the number of Europeans killed by indigenous people to the numbers of indigenous people who's lives were ruined by Europeans. Not saying one is fine and one isn't, but the Europeans definitely win the "who was shittier?" competition

[@deanodog3667]

Commanche were monsters fs make apache look like hippies!

[@Brian2221-s8l]

Their culture is overrated

[@buckskin64]

I agree with you!!

[@kevinhiggins-b7m]

All savages Foringer s being the worst

[@AndrewLeigh-v1l]

The great band GENESIS check out the track,,, THE BALLARD OF BIG,,,,, off the album and then there were three 😂

[@franklin7387]

a lot of repetitive ai melodrama bs

[@coinscout7872]

Its an A.I. app reading this hahaha

[@burtriley9557]

Pits and pew pews a slave shall not possess!

[@jackvoss5841]

ugly - did be still have that watch when he returned to the East? Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

[@TimSoden-p6w]

The victors always write history.

[@steveb6093]

Crappy AI

[@peterpim6260]

Return to "freedom" ? Without any money he was in to forced labour for the benefit of some shark., so he was. Still, slightly more easy than his captivity, I presume.

[@kanonierable]

The horrors of AI !

[@Eadbhard]

This video sucks.

[@ScottRagland]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Lee_(raconteur) * * 'raconteur' meant back then 'storyteller', 'tall tale spinner', as well as 'con man', 'huckster', etc ;-)