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Humans Don’t Need Magic & You wish to wage war on us?
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00:00 Intro
00:09 Humans Don’t Need Magic
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This Story is Classified as HFY or Humanity Feck, Yea , but what does the Mean?
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HFY is a story/series that takes a “human element” in either humanity or an “other” (race/species or object) that exists in a “setting” (future or other world/universe) with varying levels of culture, technology, society and history that help show in some shape or form the potential good or bad for humanity’s race/culture. In These stories Humans are often referred to as Human, Humanity, Deathworlder, Hellwolder in reference to the human planet of origin , Earth. This planet is seen by most of the universe as a place where only death and chaos can survive.
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Taken from the FAQ of the r/HFY subreddit.
Humans Are Space Orcs (HASO) or Humans Are (Fantasy Race) Are used as a guide when writing.
In these Stories we normally View humans like the other races view orcs in a Fantasy Novel. We (Humans) share the same characteristics and personalities as orcs. Humans are normally treated as the outsiders and barbarians. Humans tend to be underestimated as well in these stories. Unlike Humanity Feck Yea , these don't always put a positive spin on humans\humanity sometimes looking at the darker side of human and humanity from the perspective of aliens.
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[@AmbroseKTal]

I love the idea in so many of these stories, that magic is more of a hindrance than a help. That people start relying on it more than their own ingenuity.

[@robinchwan]

i mean, if you take a look at elder scrolls dwemer, they used sound mostly for their bigger tech and also blended their knowledge with magic. they were not satisfied with just magic.

[@Modhunter42]

Sounds just like Technological 'Progress'.

[@jasonbull6560]

Was that an MSM jibe . If so cool. 😂

[@davethompson3326]

If it stops you learning/broadening/refining other technologies, it's a dead end. Fine porcelain hamstrung Chinese progress, no glassware, optics, reading glasses. micro/telescopes, not even advanced lamps or mirrors for refraction/heliographs

[@alfredkugler3043]

If you think about it, it is logical. Technology is foremost created to make things easier, and cheaper. But if you have magic, then you already have a way to make things easier and cheaper. At least for those who otherwise would fund the research into technology. That is the thing. Research is expensive. You take essentially one, or more people out of your economy to try to figure something out. They need to eat, but while they research, they can not work. So either the research happens in the (sparse in a preindustrial society) free time, and is glacially slow, or the researchers have to have enough money to live on without doing any productive work. That means usually somebody rich is funding it just on the chance that it will make money later on. But in a world with widespread magic, the rich have access to magic, and won't use that newfangled technological contraption anyway. And the poor can't afford it.

[@Heidao623]

Second Story: Nothing tells us more on how badly your economy and society would shit itself, than to complain that we're out competing you. I love stories like this, where alien nations realize their own people would tear them apart from embargoes faster, than a hail of gunfire, should they piss us off

[@anathardayaldar]

This is why China and US can't have a shooting war. Both our economies would collapse.

[@nickdumas2495]

Also, if they're critically dependent on all those imports for basic things, then they're dependent on all those imports for their military too. If they don't even have their own FTL comms, did they somehow think pony express to their battleships was going to be useful?

[@Sanquinity]

I feel like a future like this is more likely than one where humans are basically space orcs. On our own planet we're already not even close to the top of the food chain without our modern weapons. And considering how harsh the universe can be compared to our little planet I expect that if there is other life out there, it's likely "stronger" than us in some way. Economics however? There's dozens if not hundreds of different jobs in economics, and we have people specialising in all of those jobs. I feel like we're pretty good when it comes to economics. :P

[@reclaimerbear6760]

The funny thing is, the cutting off of trade between them probably wouldn't destroy the alien culture. There is a good chance that after a bad adjustment period, they would innovate. After all, they do have ftl

[@Sanquinity]

@@reclaimerbear6760 Yea, but the issue is public unrest. Everyone suddenly being cut off from all the luxuries and ease of access to goods that they have gotten used to would, as stated, cause riots. The current government likely wouldn't be able to continue for long. And eventually humanity could swoop in with offers of aid, on the condition that they join under humanity as a sub-species of it's federation. The threat is that it's either that, or the species staying as they are now. Free and distinct from humanity, but sharing/freely trading culture and goods.

[@nocx4592]

And that is why you don't want to be economically dependant on hostile foriegn powers.

[@elduquecaradura1468]

I warn you this is a controversial opinion: is hard to not being economically dependant on foreign powers even if you are or were a powerful country, I mean, tell that to Russia, doing things wrong for decades up to slightly over a century, mostly becomed a cultural thing makes them so dependant in foreign stuff that kinda hinders them in case that make their relations with western countries "uncanny"

[@nocx4592]

@@elduquecaradura1468 I'm not saying that autarky is preferable or possible. Personally, I think that autarky isn't even sustainable, just look at the economy of Germany in WW2 (which I'm not sure can even be considered as getting close to full autarky as they claimed since they kept importing resources from conquest). But there's a difference between being economically supported by foreign powers, and being dependant on friendly foreign powers, and being dependant on hostile foriegn powers.

[@anathardayaldar]

Like China and the US are today. Most americans would perish without their Walmart.

[@elduquecaradura1468]

@@nocx4592 well, considering the story, is mostly possible that at the beggining Earth wasn't hostile or any similar to that, in fact iirc it stated that humanity was incredibely friendly, so is understandable that the story didn't went 1 to 100 in a minute, but could be decades of starting in the galaxial economy, to turn in 2015's China

[@colincampbell767]

For story #2. I'm surprised that the aliens would consider war. If we were outperforming them in just about every category - what are the odds that we will outperform them in war?

[@ArronRatliff]

Yeah what good is a fireball spell when a hick with a hunting rife can take a mage out from a few hundred yards, That not counting what trained military snipers could do from even farther. Gotta love that spy mage he knew better than to F.A.F.O. That second story was pretty decent as well. Capitalism is truly humanities scariest weapon lol. Thanks for the video. Here's a like and a share along with the comment to feed the algorithm.

[@satibel]

Plus there's drones that can do that with way more precision, and with a war economy, we could have drones that can empty 100 rounds with like 80% hit rate reliably We could reasonably get more than 10M tonnes of copper and iron on a fairly short notice, that means ~1M 20kg drones within like a year, how fucked are the mages?

[@TheDurid1]

Wow... all people in the first story are actually really intelligent. Even the emperor, though how arrogance was nearly greater.

[@carminedesanto6746]

Damn ..economic warfare 😳

[@darwinskeeper421]

Thank you for both stories. The second one showed us what strength really looks like.

[@Sanquinity]

Not strength. Power.

[@snidecommenter7117]

Story #2 - Economic warfare CAN be devastating.

[@aaronkennedy7458]

Although I've been writing for a while now it's actually because of your channel I wrote and posted my first story for hfy not that long ago

[@MidnightSmoke]

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[@jalexwheeler7751]

Second Story sounds like the WEF plan.

[@madago4785]

The first story reminded me of the manga Gate, it is also an anime, where a modern army faces an army from one of those fantasy worlds, and planes fight dragons. They don't do very well against technology.

[@mynameismud1776]

Just finished First Contact. You are the best narrarator I've heard

[@garthrogers2269]

2nd story. That is pretty much how Britain got its empire and the influence that came with it. Trade and diplomacy. Oh, sure there were wars, but those tended to come as a result of their growing economic & political power within a nation or region.

[@davethompson3326]

Many of the wars were non-state actors, or local officials, rather than policy, as in S Africa, India. The places taken for strategic reasons were often the result of peace treaties (Gibraltar. Malta. Hong Kong)

[@Sanquinity]

Kinda same with the Netherlands. The east india trading company was a fucking beast back then. And staying a main hub for world trade is the main reason the country is still fairly wealthy to this day.

[@willyg8592]

My cell phone is magic

[@markuhler2664]

Sufficiently advanced technology

[@jamesappling1212]

Megaverse here We come!😂

[@RealArcalian]

Greetings, Mentlegent! For the Rhyhtm that is Algo Story 1: Yes, we learn quickly, and we've been fantasizing about magic for centuries if not millennia. Story 2: And that's a lesson why economic dependence is a terribly bad idea. Far too many human leaders have made the same mistake as this Council of Elders has done, becoming reliant on other economies.

[@tomasrolter6729]

As for the second story, I don't know if human companies would back off that easily. (Unless that empire provided only a few percent of the profits)

[@germanasem2426]

It's a bluff and a good one imo

[@yomogami4561]

i rather enjoyed both stories both advocating peace to war thanks for the narration

[@qqqqqwwwww55]

headcannon, this takes place in AU robert asprin Mythadventures

[@yomogami4561]

thanks for the stories and narration

[@victortahlor4038]

Thank you for the reading

[@RWorley3sl]

Your voice is magic: take care of it

[@TechnoMageB5]

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke

[@calvingreene90]

If the government is not too involved in the economy a multi-planet country should survive embargo just fine.

[@gmradio2436]

There will be a crash as established markets are cut off and internal markets reorganize and settle.

[@calvingreene90]

​@@gmradio2436 A brief but painful transition unless the government intervention screws things up even worse.

[@gmradio2436]

@@calvingreene90 Could be a recession, could be the bronze age collapse. Depends how integrated their economy is to the human market.

[@karlhamoy3919]

👍

[@verilyheld]

The second story- Russia's finding that out.

[@genericuser984]

neat

[@oskargiza7251]

Druga historia bardzo dobra

[@smaragdwolf1]

magic does sounds interesting... but i would give us 2 years max until a nation experiments with magically improved thermonuclear warheads.... or even stronger weapons. Just the thought of what kinds of magic the anime-culture invented, i wouldnt be surprised if we exterminate ourself within 5 years XD

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for the algorithm

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Algorithm

[@merlinwizard1000]

23rd, 30 May 2023

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For the Algorithm, for the Author(s), for the Holographic Voice!

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Comment

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For the Algorithm11!

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[@kurtismiller9544]

Magic .... Too slow, can't be bothered to waste our time....

[@willyg8592]

Why do all of these stories depict humans as being superior?

[@markuhler2664]

Because that's the point of "Humans F-ck Yeah!!!" stories. The common trope of a lot of science fiction and fantasy is that Vulcans/Elves are smarter & Klingons/Orcs are stronger, that every species is better at something than humans, that we're just average. So on Reddit someone tired of this came up with an interesting proposition. What if we're the badasses of the galaxy? More specifically, what if Earth was to the galaxy as Australia is to Earth? What if Earth was what became known as a death planet? We shouldn't be the top predator on Earth, we have no claws, no size, no strength, etc. Earth has hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, and volcanoes. How many species could survive that, much less make it to space flight. Some authors have looked at how flammable oxygen is and wondered if our atmosphere with that would freak aliens out, or if the range of temperatures on Earth would do the same? Remember, it isn't that there aren't planets like or even worse than ours, but on how many this bad could a species prosper? There's some quote that goes like, "You want to wage war with us? We stick needles repeatedly into our skin to make decorations on our bodies, we pierce parts of our body for jewelry, our jaws are too small for our teeth and so we have to rip some of them out. We poison our air and water, we destroy whole ecosystems and hunt animals to extinction! We hung our God on a tree!!! And you want to wage war with us?! "

[@JeremyMarcum1]

...it's a cornerstone for the genre?

[@gmradio2436]

The sub genre is HFY. Humanity, Fuck Yeah. It is focused on the conflicts of humanity to become strong. It is a response to fiction that depicts humans as the weakest spices in a setting such as when humans are considered ignorant children. Commonly seen with elves, dwarves, and the ancient or great races.

[@Sanquinity]

@@gmradio2436 Now that you mention it...there ARE a lot of stories in media where humanity is weak or average at best. Glad HFY exists. :P I think the genre really started with a bunch of "humans are space orcs" texts, where it was basically just a bunch of humourous "conversations" between a human and an alien, and how aliens might see human activity/mannerisms as weird. (P.M. Seymour did videos on it back then) But it slowly turned into the HFY and HASP genre we have today, where people started writing actual short stories and sometimes entire light novels.

[@klappstock943]

For the Algorithm the story and the voice