The SHOCKING Truth About the SSL UF8 vs Softube Console 1 Fader MkIII

[@ITBProEng]

Thanks for popping this up. Reminds me of how shockingly primative my own workflow is. Still waiting for the slim controller with great faders, real jog knob, transport controls, and programmable buttons with tight intergration to Nuendo 13/upcoming 14.

[@Howdoyoudaw]

Thanks ! Yes SSL UF8 is not slim, but does work with Nuendo/Cubase. Combined with UF1 you would get jog knob as well.

[@klownaround5464]

⁠yea i couldn’t wait for that so i got the MKIII CONSOLE AND 2 MKIII FADERS and the PRESONUS FADER PORT V2 for my TRANSPORT everything arrived yesterday so EARLY XMAS FOR ME ❤🎉😅

[@MoonhareStudio]

Lots of food for thought there. I have been looking for something that integrates well into Cubase and funnily enough I use loads of similar shortcuts to you, currently programmed into a very cheap Korg NanoKontrol 2. My main console is the Qcon Pro X which works well, has a superb transport section, but does not have anywhere near the programmability of the SSL. I've seen the Softube vids too and that it follows the channels if you click on the mixer (like my CC121), but perhaps the lack of other features is just not enough to make up for this one advantage. If only we could get true integration with Cubase onto a major Midi Controller! Anyway thanks for posting. Subscribed.

[@Howdoyoudaw]

Hey, Thanks ! Indeed the only workflow related thing is the "follows the channels if you click on the mixer" however when selecting track from SSL UF8 it will focus to that in Cubase Mixer. However not the other way around. All other functionality is better with SSL UF8 IMO.

[@gertkeunen2720]

I used to have both (both SSL system and Softube). But working in Nuendo and loading a SSL 360 plugin and a Softube console plugin on each channel made Nuendo instable, with lots of loading problems and crashed. Nuendo crash report always mentions SSL 360 as cause of the crash. So I sold my SSL and work with the two Softubes and a Nektar CS21 (and some streamdecks).

[@Howdoyoudaw]

I still have both and use the Softube Console 1 Channel with SSL UF8. However after last firmware update the Console 1 Channel is resetting frequently. They introduced this MIDI capability and most likely due that it is crashing. (Not sure, they still investigate). I am thinking of having MP MIDI to control Plugins and use the SSL UF8 to control rest.

[@Maax_555]

Hi nice video. I am trying to decide detention SSL and Softube. Would you mind telling me what the touchscreen is? Looks like you are using MetaGrid on iPad, does this also work well?

[@Howdoyoudaw]

Hey, Thanks ! I have a lot of problems with Softube Console (Channel rebooting itself and fader not working for my workflow eventually) Touchscreen is this one webshop.asus.com/fi-fi/90LM04S0-B02170/ASUS-ZenScreen-Touch-MB16AMTR Needs a www.touch-base.com/ to work with Mac. MetaGrid is awesome, works extremely well and it is intregral part of my setup. Will plan to do dedicated videos on it.

[@samireivinen]

what your touch monitor is? looks convinient!

[@Howdoyoudaw]

Hey, Thanks ! It is this one webshop.asus.com/fi-fi/90LM04S0-B02170/ASUS-ZenScreen-Touch-MB16AMTR Needs a www.touch-base.com/ to work with Mac.

[@murraywebster1228]

Have you looked at MPMidi, fast and functional, for cubase too now

[@Howdoyoudaw]

Hey, I have indeed. Few times been on a fence to order it. You have experience on it ?

[@murraywebster1228]

@ I‘m considering buying another 2, then I have one for Cubase control and one for plugin control, the third machine would be for integration with my Allen & Heath Avantis for live shows using it in conjunction with Gig Performer, the Cubase Integration is amazing workflow acceleration, only thing missing are faders under the screen

[@Howdoyoudaw]

@@murraywebster1228 Awesome !

[@doodoogtube]

Yep!👍🏾 Exactly.

[@Howdoyoudaw]

Thanks !

[@thomasbroker69]

I get it has a lot it can control on the screen but it’s still no quicker than a mouse..

[@Howdoyoudaw]

Hi, depends on the preference. I like to control this in more analog way with buttons and knobs. This make things faster for me and I do not need to use the mouse or keyboard so much. All is about personal preference and the workflow should be like whay is best for you.

[@G_handle]

So the SHOCKING part is that the SSL UF8 pairs better with Softube Console 1 Channel than does Softube Console 1 Fader....for your workflow. A bit dramatic, but I actually really appreciate what you are showing in this video. (And it IS KZbin. ) Q: Was there anything about C1F that you felt WAS actually better? I don't feel like you really compared the two so much as declared one better. And briefly said why but didn't really Show us both. Again though, I really like the video and agree that the focus should be on Workflow rather than name brand or hype. However, the bells & whistles that each bring to the table will resonate differently with different people. I hope you have more coming.

[@Howdoyoudaw]

In all I feel that C1F from mechanics is pretty good and the haptic feedback is nice feature, however the integration with many DAWs still lack features compared to SSL UF8. Like in many DAWs it does not reflect to mix view so you see all the channels despite mix view shows only few. SSL UF8 is the opposite. Also C1F is only a fader when the SSL UF8 is a MIDI controller, and very versatile to program hot keys to make your workflow better. Those are the main diffs. IMO. As said we all are different and for some C1F might just do it. IMO best integration is with Logic Pro.

[@CaptainProton1]

Informative but not shocking in any way. Click bait title really.

[@Howdoyoudaw]

Thanks , Well a bit heavy title yes, but a lot of buss has been on Console 1 fader, but not revealing th big difference of two.

[@psysword]

Is it shit?

[@Howdoyoudaw]

Like said in the video Console 1 Fader is a great fader unit, but it is only that. SSL UF8 has more features that support making your workflow faster.

[@klownaround5464]

@@Howdoyoudaw​​⁠yea i couldn’t wait for that so i got the MKIII CONSOLE AND 2 MKIII FADERS and the PRESONUS FADER PORT V2 for my TRANSPORT everything arrived yesterday so EARLY XMAS FOR ME ❤🎉😅

[@CaptainProton1]

The 'SHOCKING!!!!!!!!' Truth.....Hyperbole much?

[@Howdoyoudaw]

A bit :)

[@MojaveMark]

Hey, you clicked.