The SHOCKING Truth About The Turkish Get Up

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If you're new to kettlebell training, you're in for a revelation! In this video, we explore the surprising reality of Turkish Get Ups, a kettlebell exercise that has been celebrated for its complexity. However, after years of working with beginners, it's clear that there are more effective exercises to kickstart your fitness journey.
Charles Batta introduced the Turkish Get Up as a showcase of strength and entertainment. Over time, it evolved into a "fitness phenomenon" thanks to Steve Maxwell, who integrated it into the RKC curriculum.
Now, the shocking truth is out: while the Turkish Get Up is cool, exercises like Squats, Presses, Deadlifts, and Swings provide quicker and more rewarding results for newcomers.
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@tommyj1811
@tommyj1811 5 ай бұрын
Love the TGU. It is a disciplined approach to lifting where you have to get a lot of things right. I'm 58 and I know many my age who can't get off of the ground at all. I won't ever be like that. It works for me.
@Frennemydistinction
@Frennemydistinction 4 ай бұрын
Same here, and similar age. The TGU takes a lot of work to learn, tho it is not really technical like the dynamic lifts. Just gotta sequence the steps right. Learned it years ago from an old Mike Boyle video. But yeah I love it, farmer walks too.
@Cannulae
@Cannulae 29 күн бұрын
Once again I'm mid-fifties and find the TGU invaluable for all the reasons discussed. I enjoy the complexity of the TGU as a way to help maintain brain health. I also acknowledge the point Gregory's has made regarding general business/fitness bang for your buck decisions.
@jordantheokay3168
@jordantheokay3168 8 ай бұрын
I'll put it this way I'm the only person at my gym that even knows how to do the get-up, lol. But I do it most every day.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
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@jordantheokay3168
@jordantheokay3168 8 ай бұрын
@lebestark-official one day, man, and thanks a ton, but I'm broke
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Apologize; this wasn't meant for you! KZbin Studio is sometimes glitchy; lol! Appreciate your feedback!@@jordantheokay3168
@a.lame.username.
@a.lame.username. 4 ай бұрын
I've loved TGU since the day we first meet. She is always in the program somewhere. If you're well trained, she'll let you move better.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 4 ай бұрын
I recently divorced her and never looked back.
@albrecht-sebastianwitte-re4280
@albrecht-sebastianwitte-re4280 8 ай бұрын
Currently, the TGU is my staple exercise and has been for some months now. About 5 to 8 rounds (L+R=1round, always alternating) with the 16kg are my regular warmup, and recently I managed to do 20 rounds almost in a row as a complete workout. My goal is to be able to do about 7 to 10 rounds with the 24kg one day, but there's no rush. What I love about the TGU is that it is basically "loaded yoga", teaching you a lot of your body's biomechanics in the process. And it is like a piece of music, in which you would also encounter many different challenges to your technique, which in the end combine into something beautiful - which is why it requires a fair amount of practise over an extended period of time to achieve the desired flow and movement coordination. Interestingly, when you broke up the TGU into different basic exercises, you omitted the part which is the hardest for me: on the way up, lifting the torso off the ground and shifting the weight on the supporting side from the shoulder onto the elbow (and later, the hand - or fist, for those with wrist issues). Any tutorial for this particular step would be greatly appreciated!
@Frennemydistinction
@Frennemydistinction 4 ай бұрын
Great, spot on description of the lift. Impressive sets too. I did singles per side with a 28 kg but no more. As Dan John says, kb is right above your face. You don't want to fail.
@user-if6mq6qr6x
@user-if6mq6qr6x 4 ай бұрын
I like the TGU because it has many exercises in one. Maybe it would be a better workout to do all the moves separately, but I like not having to think about doing a set of floor presses, a set of windmills, a set of split squats and lunges, etc. With the TGU, I get all of these in what feels like one set of one exercise.
@rogernorton6583
@rogernorton6583 8 ай бұрын
For me tgu is kind of a nice milestone for every weight. If i can do tgu with a 14,16,20 24 for 10 minutes and it’s no longer challenging it may be time to go up in weight. At a certain weight it stops being worthwhile.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Appreciate the insights, brother!
@locohomicida3348
@locohomicida3348 8 ай бұрын
I dont want to doubt your experience and knowledge about kettlebelltraining but I think the tgu is one of the best exercises ever especially for bjj practicioners(like me) for various reasons. Its a complex full body exercise which is very god for the central nervesystem and the cardiovasculaire system. You need balance, shoulder stability and a stiff arm throughout the whole exercise(which is a basic concept in bjj). you do a technical standup very similar as in bjj(basic concept). In the basic version you do kind of a single leg hip thrust(similar to a hip bump which is a basic concept in bjj). I get your point when you talk about older or untrained people and I agree its not a basic movement and there is better things to do for those but for experienced lifters or martial artists it is a very powerful exercise imho. I follow your content for a while and I highly respect your technique and knowledge but on this one I disagree. I really think its one of the best exercises.
@turkishgetup3924
@turkishgetup3924 8 ай бұрын
My main sport is rock climbing and I've found that the TGU is good for training full body tension in a way that its individual components don't. The whole is greater than the sum of parts for my application. That said, I only program it every few weeks, but i do swings every workout.
@user-fj3fq4qn6j
@user-fj3fq4qn6j 4 ай бұрын
Wow. Thank you. Great content and I can actually hear your voice. Normally the videos I watch have very loud background music. I'm definitely subscribing :)
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 4 ай бұрын
Great to have you onboard!
@MegaXowen
@MegaXowen 3 ай бұрын
This was an incredibly useful video, thanks.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@peteuthai
@peteuthai 8 ай бұрын
Great breakdown for the Turkish get-ups! I had some idea to break it down. Now, thanks to you, it has been lay out perfectly.😊😊
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@scraps4019
@scraps4019 8 ай бұрын
The mobility aspect is one of several reasons that I'll never stop doing the tgu.
@madhusudan
@madhusudan 8 ай бұрын
The TGU is highly technical, so there's a barrier to entry for the untrained. I spent the time to break it down into its parts and it became one of my go-to exercises for years. I definitely feel I benefitted from that focus - both in appearance and functional strength - however, your recent video inspired me to make a change in my programming into double KB work. Now doing Dan John's ABC. So, thanks for helping me keep an open mind and enter a new level in my training.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Appreciate the response, brother! 💙
@Frennemydistinction
@Frennemydistinction 4 ай бұрын
TGU is technical, but not in the same way as dynamic lifts. A lot of it is proper set up and sequencing of the many steps. And unlike dynamic lifts, you can start learning with no weight at all, and slowly progress from there. A really great lift imo, but yeah, maybe not for everybody. I learned it years ago from a Mike Boyle video that broke it down real well.
@madhusudan
@madhusudan 4 ай бұрын
@@Frennemydistinction Good point on the option of starting off with no weight. Yeah, as a beginner I broke down the segments and worked those individually before putting it all together. I've since moved on to more dynamic stuff - focusing on the snatch these days - but still have a fondness for the TGU and may get back to it some day.
@jimcosklo701
@jimcosklo701 5 ай бұрын
The TGU is one of my favorite overall exercises, but I believe that it should be done lightly and for reps. I've come to this opinion the hard way: A few years ago, I went down the rabbit hole of watching people on youtube doing really heavy barbell TGUs and I wanted to work up to at least 135 lbs. I got to the point where I could comfortably do 2 full reps (up and back down) on each side with a barbell loaded to 75lbs. I was at the point where I was comfortable enough to add more weight. Then one day, I was at the point of the sideways plank, and about to slide my leg under my butt, when my arm holding the barbell just stopped working. The weight didn't feel heavier than usual or anything. My arm just came down. Fast. I luckily dropped myself to the floor fast enough that the barbell just missed my head/neck and crashed onto my shoulder which didn't feel great. Some things look cool, but if you want to lift for strength, there are safer exercises out there. 🤷‍♂️
@Frennemydistinction
@Frennemydistinction 4 ай бұрын
Insane. Because of the leverage the BB has, the risk of torsion the wrist is too high anyway imo. Dan John warns about heavy KB TGUs for safety reasons. KB is right above your face.
@sweepease1290
@sweepease1290 8 ай бұрын
You might be leaving out a key reason to do TGU - proprioception. Because TGU is extremely technical you need to understand how the parts make the whole and this is an excellent exercise for learning how muscles and mind work together plus it builds strength and coordination. TGU is not a "cool" looking exercise, it is an exercise that has tremendous value for anyone wanting to maintain mobility, flexibility and strength.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Agreed! I’d also argue, that the benefits you’ve mentioned can be achieved with high ROI exercises like Snatch, Press, Squat, Swing. 🔥
@sweepease1290
@sweepease1290 8 ай бұрын
Definitely the exercises you mention have a good ROI for those who do them correctly. The TGU also allows for more movement planes. Bottom line is how good an exercise is for you depends on what it is you are trying to do (strength, hypertrophy, combo etc) and how well you do it@@lebe-stark
@guyblew1733
@guyblew1733 8 ай бұрын
Another good video. With lots of good individual work outs.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
💪💙
@lonew2657
@lonew2657 8 ай бұрын
It's not for everybody to be sure. Ryan and Khabib do take-downs, entries, and sprawls . When Khabib does use a kb, he does uses it differently. Learning how to get - up off the ground make you stronger period. The next question to ask is this: Is the TGU safer then a overhead squat?
@proverbs11vs30
@proverbs11vs30 8 ай бұрын
awesome video, thank you brother, what you say makes sense!
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@JosephAlanOliveros
@JosephAlanOliveros 8 ай бұрын
hey, hey, hey! just in time. today was TGU day for me (together with KB Hunter Squats, Floor Presses and Pullovers) and I've been thinking of other exercises (that are not that long to execute) to replace it. I'll definitely give a look into these alternatives. Cheers Gregory, you're a lifesaver! I'll still do TGU from time to time, but not twice a week of 3 sets of progressing reps anymore probably. I still love this exercise! just realised that I've already deconstructed TGU with the Hunter Squats and Floor Presses. all I need to add is the windmill!
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Glad to be of service!
@user-ge5zv7wg6g
@user-ge5zv7wg6g 5 ай бұрын
Sorry about my english, I can do some mistakes. May be turkish get up with lite kettlebell can be very useful for beginners, because this exercise can give you good balance in moving with kettlebell. But some instructors tell about TGU like about something magical, like about the only exercise you need. And it can be problem if they talk about martial arts. I remember one think, that told Artur Beterbiev, when he was asked about best exercise for power punch, and he told, that he doesn’t know this best exercise, and he has 100% knock outs in his professional carrier. May be there is no best kettlebell exercise for martial arts, but there are many good and useful different exercises.
@DominusFeles
@DominusFeles 8 ай бұрын
I instruct a mixed group of 10-15 persons once a week, and I have never ever showed them the Turkish getup. On purpose. If they stick around for a couple of weeks (and most of them do) they start to have a nice Clean. But that’s more or less peak technique, I have new people on the regular in the group and don’t see much gain in throwing too many and too advanced exercises at them.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
That’s the experience of a seasoned coach speaking! Appreciate the feedback! 🔥
@user-dl5nj3cp1f
@user-dl5nj3cp1f 7 ай бұрын
I like the TGU. Of course there will be more efficient exercises. But I like the TGU because it's a good opportunity to train coordination, stability and concentration with heavy weights. Just today I did the TGU with a 20 kg kettlebell for more then 10 minutes.
@Horkthane
@Horkthane 8 ай бұрын
This is really challenging for me, because the TGU is more or less my single favorite exercise. I do five sets of five with 88 lbs as my main workout, and I'm 40 years old. Been doing this a long time. I have noticed focusing so much on TGUs my explosive power is down. I think I want to focus on snatches more this year to compensate. Even so, when I'm doing that many TGUs that heavy, I feel it from the tips of my fingers to the tips of my toes, and everywhere in between. There may be an array of individual exercises I could do achieve the same results. But I appreciate the simplicity of just sticking with a single killer exercise that does it all, and pushing the limits of endurance and strength with it.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Keep doing it, if you like it. 💪🔥
@Frennemydistinction
@Frennemydistinction 4 ай бұрын
Impressive set. You could start with a lighter kb, standing, snatch kb up to overhead, lunge back, and go down into your TGU from there. If you want to snatch more, just do two snatches or more before going into your TGU.
@bhughes9518
@bhughes9518 7 ай бұрын
I don’t disagree with your facts, but I was left feeling like you proved that the TGU is actually very important in that it is a movement that encompasses multiple exercise movements.
@johncreet1254
@johncreet1254 Ай бұрын
The difficulty I have as an old(er) person who does occasionally do TGUs is that I can't hold my arm vertically above my shoulder and lock out my elbow - there is always a slight angle to the vertical. Since you have to hold the bell in that position for most of the exercise, there can be quite a strain on the arm and shoulder even with a light bell.
@nicholasb2218
@nicholasb2218 8 ай бұрын
Being able to change your mind, especially with something as dogmatic as fitness and strength training, is truly admirable.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
💪💙
@kamel-eon
@kamel-eon 3 ай бұрын
Hey, sehr schön erklärt. Ich habe inzwischen meine 45 Jahre erreicht und fange gerade erst mit Kettlebell-Training an. Ich bin sonst kein unerfahrener Sportler, sei es Kampfsport, Hanteltraining oder Bodyweight-Training. Aber für mich ist das Wichtigste die Abwechslung im Training. Daher werde ich irgendwann auch den TGU ausprobieren. Und wenn er Spaß macht und von mir korrekt ausgeführt wird, ist er eben ein neues Element im Training.
@drbencomo6597
@drbencomo6597 3 ай бұрын
I injured my shoulder in during a martial art training and my physio told me to do this. Should I keep doing it form a should stability aspect or should I focus on different exercise that would give me more benefits?
@pachacutec9999
@pachacutec9999 4 ай бұрын
Gregori, I always appreciate your common sense and open mindedness!
@atomicmonk
@atomicmonk 8 ай бұрын
Hi Gregory, it seems a bit obvious that you wouldn’t start a beginner on the Turkish getup. Even the kettlebell swing needs a primer on how to properly hip-hinge. But the getup is such a perfect flow of combined movements that it’s truly hard to beat once you’ve practiced those individual movements. I train with Pavel’s Simple & Sinister routine twice a week for a couple years now and the wtf effect is undeniable. I do some HIIT training, rucking, hiking, running, cycling, swimming on my other days, but my gym consists of 3 kettlebells and it keeps me prepared for whatever I might encounter during the day. Don’t give up on the Turkish getups just yet! 💪🤪🤙
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Appreciate your response, brother! Here's the thing: The time it takes to master the choreography of the Get Up, is better spent with high ROI exercises like Squat, Press etc. These exercises suffice and I doubt, that the Get Up adds any particular benefit in comparison. That being said, the Get Up is: a) still cool b) fun to do c) can give you results, and d) I won't give up on it. lol
@baum6721
@baum6721 3 ай бұрын
This is an awesome perspective. I just started in kettlebells and it's cool hear differing opinions on, as you correctly put it, the dogma surrounding fitness.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@makidiaz3894
@makidiaz3894 8 ай бұрын
It’s too difficult to teach an overweight or elderly client this exercise technique, they can get injured and dislocate an arm or worse, slip and fall with the kettlebell crushing them.
@rashedusman9717
@rashedusman9717 8 ай бұрын
I guess it's pretty obvious that the turkish get up isn't for people that have little to no experience with weights. It's like expecting a child that just learned to read and write, to read novels with 400 pages. I do a couple of tgu's on each side in my warm up, but nothing wild. It makes my shoulders feel great.
@Liam1991
@Liam1991 8 ай бұрын
You make a great point with the TGU. Of course with your experience working as a coach, you understand far better what your customers needs are, than those of us are not gym trainers. Same with everything in life, you have people are specialists in the hobbies they do, and you have people who just want to try it out. This reminds me of my Krav Maga training. I've done it for many years, as well as other martial arts in the past. We've got people in class who've been there for a few years, first time doing a martial art, and yet, still struggle with the basics. I do try and help them when I'm partnered up with them, but they seem to struggle with either remembering part of the techniques, or their lack of coordination.
@ianfoster1171
@ianfoster1171 8 ай бұрын
Squat swings press clean snatch. Don’t need much more 55 years old work fine. Be training in some kind sport since 5 years old. Would not swap kettlebells for anything
@KettlebellMaxxin
@KettlebellMaxxin 4 ай бұрын
I love the content Greg! I like the TGU, but I don't rep them out. I program it with a Deconstructed circuit where I will start with a TGU and the isolate the movements. OH lunges, 1/2 windmills, then floor press. I do those for reps and then switch sides. Great routine for strength.
@sethfarrell9605
@sethfarrell9605 8 ай бұрын
I agree it's a difficult move to learn correctly, but so is the clean, so is the clean and jerk, and in alot of cases even the swing takes a while for people to feel out. Ideally, your right. I love KBs, but best bang for your buck ultimately is a barbell, and your body weight. The less people have to actually learn the easier it is for them to stay engaged. It took me a long time to do a proper getup. It took a long time to figure out cleans (especially doubles). I wouldn't teach anyone that stuff if they were just starting out. Non ballistic hinges, proper squats, and learning to pull with your back instead of your arms is way more bang than taking the time to figure out how to use a KB safely and effectively. As always, I appreciate you being fair in your commentary, and not just being contrarian.
@smoothassmooth
@smoothassmooth 4 ай бұрын
I tore my rotator cuff doing the Turkish getup. The only exercise I got injured with. There is a Russian kettlebell champion Valery federenko who tried it and said the Turkish getup is like riding a motorcycle you can get away with it for years but eventually you will get hurt. It was something along those lines.
@ytp9457
@ytp9457 3 ай бұрын
People say the same thing about the Squat, deadlift, bench press, overhead press, pull up, KB swing etc. You can get hurt doing anything with bad technique or using too much weight.
@smoothassmooth
@smoothassmooth 3 ай бұрын
ya but the turkish getup is uneccessary and heavy turkish getups are not too smart.you have a kettlebell right over your head. you are putting your shoulder in weird positions. those other exercises are more simple and have less risk.@@ytp9457
@jupitereye4322
@jupitereye4322 11 күн бұрын
The best paradox about Turkish get-ups is that the more correctly you do it the easier it is. I am not saying its easy to perform with heavier weights especially, but every mistake will cost you.
@manningermani
@manningermani 8 ай бұрын
How do you define “bang for your buck” that combining a press, weighted situp, windmill and split squat in one exercise does not fit in there? 😅 doing S&S in 15 minutes can be hardly beaten in terms of “bang for your buck” when you look at all the muscles that are being trained. It has strength, cardio and mobility combined. Makes you more explosive, makes you stronger and more stable. I agree that it’s not the first thing you should teach for your 50-60-year-old clients but those people shouldn’t be learning from KZbin videos either, they are doing the smart thing by turning to you for PT. You convinced me with your snatch and long cycle videos but I am not yet convinced by your tgu videos ;)
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Appreciate your perspective brother! ->RE: "Makes you more explosive, makes you stronger and more stable". The same can be said of Swing, Squat and Press - taught in a fraction of the time it takes to teach a Get Up.
@timharmoni1846
@timharmoni1846 8 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree with you more, Lebe. Never felt I was getting much from it when compared to double clean and presses or front squats….
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Appreciate your feedback!
@Zephyr1968
@Zephyr1968 2 ай бұрын
I have to say, I had a rotator cuff injury from overhead sports for a decade and the TGU was the cure. Forces your stabilizers to work in about every range possible in a way they are not utilized in other exercises.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 2 ай бұрын
I'm assuming that regular pressing would have done the same.
@Zephyr1968
@Zephyr1968 2 ай бұрын
@@lebe-stark the position you are in for the video intro clip never happens in a pressing exercise, unless someone comes up with a punching sideways drill. Really like your tips.
@swoosh2835
@swoosh2835 8 ай бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly about the absurdity of TGUs being framed as some sort of holy grail exercise for martial artists, and very specifically grapplers. If you play American football at any level, be it high school, college (D1 D2 D3 whatever), or pros, the barbell back squat WILL be a staple of your training. I don’t know any football player who doesn’t squat regularly. THAT’S an example of an exercise that is paramount to a sport, it’s training, and ultimately performance. Anyone saying that TGUs are as analogous to grapplers in that they are as indispensable to their training as barbell back squats are to football players is kidding themselves. Over half the guys in a typical BJJ room on a weeknight or lunch break aren’t doing TGUs. High level competitors like Gordon Ryan aren’t focusing on it (if he’s doing it at all). I personally love the TGU and do it often, but thank you for putting it in its place, especially when it comes to some sort of staple exercise for grapplers.
@j.k.5008
@j.k.5008 8 ай бұрын
Putting stuff overhead feels always great and so does the tgu😃👍.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Agreed! lol
@peterglaser6480
@peterglaser6480 8 ай бұрын
Very open minded and balanced statement. For the already well rounded athletes the TGU is a very useful exercise which allows to combine strength, strength endurance, mobility and balance. Especially balance is rarely trained this way, balancing an heavy object overhead. Prove of which one can find in the comment section: weights like 20 or 24 kg only feel heavy as long as you haven’t mastered the art of balancing heavy objects overhead which you can’t strict press or even push press. That’s the beauty - and the danger - of the thing, I can’t think of a better way to overload lockout (also referred to as fixation in snatch), besides of course the bent press, but the bent press requires a lot ore upper body mobility than the TGU.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Good point about the overhead lockout and how it’s improved in the Get Up! I didn’t think about this. 💪
@potheim
@potheim 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Thank you! I've never been a fan of the TGU since encountering it almost 20 years ago. You are one of the few people I've heard with the perspective you offered in this video. I'm on the same page, but couldn't have articulated it as well as you have.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 3 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@BlondeDavey
@BlondeDavey 8 ай бұрын
Turkish Get up is a staple for me and has been for the last 3 years or so. The reason is that when I’m in my 60’s 70’s and beyond I want to have the strength to get up off the floor. I’m 46 at the moment, so a way off. I just think it’s a valuable exercise even though it’s a real grind which I’d be lying if I said I enjoy it. A bit like barbell squat it sucks while you’re doing it but benefits you greatly. I get what you’re saying though. I tried to teach my Mother to do it. Very complicated for a beginner.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I would argue, if you include Squats, Deadlifts, Swing and Press in your workout routine, you'll always be able to get up; even in old age.
@Chiburi
@Chiburi 8 ай бұрын
Some thoughts by someone who has done a variety of martial arts and really likes kettlebells, but who really doesn’t have a dog in this fight… Has the Turkish getup really been touted as ’the one exercise martial artists do?’ Hmm, I don’t really think so. Do people who never touched a weight in their lives have much in common with martial artists or combat athletes? I don’t think so either. I don’t disagree with your trainer intuition, but you are making this argument switching between two very different approaches. Getups are advanced and also not the best muscle builder, so most people can get more from the fundamentals, which are, after all, fundamentals! And ’martial arts’ is a very broad and vague term, including everything from professional MMA to Tai Chi, Tae Kwon Do and Historical European Martial Arts. It’s about as specific as saying ’sports’. About Tyson, Ryan and Khabib. It sounds to me like a reverse argument from authority, where if these stars didn’t train getups then the argument for the getup as a martial artists exercise is wrong. I don’t really think that follows. And we need to be specific - ’martial arts’ is a very broad, unspecific categorization where most people wouldn’t even place the sport of boxing. I also don’t think practically anyone would advocate for any benefits of getups for boxers. It’s a slow grinding lift, not part of the physical culture of boxing (like the jumprope and the heavy bag) and boxers don’t make contact when one of them is on the floor. It has no relevance for boxers. Furthermore, Mike Tysons peak career was in the late 1980s, long before the kettlebell and the getup were reintroduced to American culture, so that’s a kind of silly argument too. Where the kettlebell and the getup actually come into the context of martial arts training, is better understood from these two angles; First, take a look at where and how people train combat sports and martial arts. It is group training, usually on an open mat or on hard floor surrounding a boxing ring. In this environment, you don’t want equipment taking up space or injuring people if they bump into it. They already do a lot of bodyweight training, like pushups, squats, vertical jumps and ab exercises - in other words, a lot of anterior chain exercises! The kettlebell is great for balancing this out because you can hinge, swing, row, curl, carry, and pressing overhead counteracts the rounding of the back and shoulders that is so common for practitioners of so many styles, whether it be Wrestling, BJJ, Boxing, Muay Thai, Combatives, etc. Kettlebells are popular with *some* martial arts gyms because they take up little of that precious space, they work strength endurance and power endurance which is useful to them, and you can add them to a group setting easily. Barbells don’t work as well, sandbags may be better a lot of the time but you would have to wash them after every training session, and so they don’t work very well in this setting. These are some of the reasons why kettlebells are useful and popular among martial artists. For the specifics of the Turkish getup, I recommend watching the video titled ”Why the Turkish Get-up is so important for Jiu Jitsu players” by the Jiu Jitsu Brotherhood channel. It’s a 9 min video from five years ago. I think for any non-martial artists, non-grapplers, this video is a great breakdown of WHY it is a useful exercise specifically for BJJ players. Not for martial arts, but for BJJ! And even then, a lot of BJJ players never do getups or kettlebells at all, so there’s that too. I personally don’t really care what others do, but I like doing getups from time to time because it lets me check in with my body, do some weighted mobility and it takes me out of the sagittal plane where I do most of my resistance training. I also think this applies to most people, and you can get these benefits from curtsy lunges and windmills too. No need for a religion of Turkish getups, or a counter-movement to it. Thank you for listening to my TED Talk!
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Love it! Thanks for sharing your extensive insights and experience! 💪
@Chiburi
@Chiburi 8 ай бұрын
@@lebe-stark Well thank you for producing super content! 🫡
@johng.k.6027
@johng.k.6027 8 ай бұрын
yeap, I cannot agree more. even as a kettlebell fan who has 6 bells at home and do twice exercise/week, I have to argue that I prefer to do split squat/press/windmill/deadlift etc. much more often than Turkish Get Up. Not only because the reasons you mentioned, but also when I don't feel so well to support weight directly from ground with my knee, when I want to use heavier weight for windmill/squat ... but it is too heavy for TGU etc. etc. To train efficiently, should be always the key point for our training.
@patrickokeeffe4787
@patrickokeeffe4787 8 ай бұрын
Ive been feeling the same way myself. I only learned the TGU because I felt that you were not a true kettlebellman if you couldnt do that move. But I find it rather boring now and I prefer doing some of the elements of the TGU on their own. I do lunges on their own now and I somtimes do the get up to elbow or palm for a nice few reps as a good core exercise. Im only kettlebelling for about 4 years but im competant in all the main exercises like snatches, swings, squats, cleans, presses, lunges, TGU and ive only ever been injured twice and both came from the same exercise....TGU. Its not worth the risk to reward or bang for your buck. To do 5 TGUs per side would take me about 10 mins or more. I could melt myself and get a hell of a lot more work done and bang for my buck doing a lunge to press combo for a solid 10 mins.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Appreciate the feedback, brother! 💪🔥
@dragonortiz8741
@dragonortiz8741 2 ай бұрын
Great point of view Sir, giving what the people needs, is better than imposed exercises by the beliefs of the trainer. Keep the good work!
@jonklein7130
@jonklein7130 8 ай бұрын
TGU is great to mix in with other lifts. Probably not the best for a beginner’s.
@edwhlam
@edwhlam 8 ай бұрын
Excellent post. I am a martial artist. I don't have the upper body mobility to safely do full TGU with any significant weight. I am working up to it, but doing TGU isn't critical.
@caseystengel3120
@caseystengel3120 8 ай бұрын
I like it and will keep doing it. But I’m not your typical newbie.
@caseystengel3120
@caseystengel3120 8 ай бұрын
I’m fighting boredom.
@unixbadger
@unixbadger 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
You’re welcome!
@HeroicCoachingwithDan
@HeroicCoachingwithDan 4 ай бұрын
The TGU incorporattes more athletic skill and many people don't need that kind of carry over skill for how they live their lives. So breaking out the movements required to do the TGU is a nice way to get people back into the basic movement patterns of squating , lunging, twisting, pushing, pulling, bending/hinging, and on to improved crawling, gait, running etc....
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 3 ай бұрын
Athletic skills are highly specialized and have nothing to do with the Get Up.
@GazeboPelt
@GazeboPelt 8 ай бұрын
Do you think that a better way to think about the TGU is to treat it like a complex or a type of cycle then?
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
The Get Up in its very nature is a "flow" - and you can use it however you want. From experience of working with regular people, Swings, Squats, Press, Deadlift etc. probably give you more benefits for less effort.
@DominicZaidan
@DominicZaidan 4 ай бұрын
Makes sense.
@eamonob84
@eamonob84 7 ай бұрын
You mention windmills being a good alternative. What would you say the benefits of that movement would be over doing the get up?
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 7 ай бұрын
Similar to the Get Up, the Windmill is an exercise I don't teach often. But it's easier to learn and I would argue, with a little less injury risk.
@mahurchakvolodymyr8310
@mahurchakvolodymyr8310 8 ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@lotharklein8242
@lotharklein8242 8 ай бұрын
Ich glaub man muss mehr differenzieren: wenn ich bereits ein Meister der Martial Arts bin, muss ich die Skills des TGU nicht mehr lernen. Stehe ich am Anfang, ist der TGU eine gute Möglichkeit, wesentliche Skills der MAs zu lernen. Es kommt also darauf an, wo ich mich gerade im sportlichen Entwicklungsprozess befinde...
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Danke für dein Feedback! Ich bezweifle, dass die Jungs, die ich im Video genannt habe einen Get Up als Start für ihre Boxer/BJJ/MMA Karriere genutzt haben. Trotzdem verstehe ich woher du kommst!
@pilar6697
@pilar6697 8 ай бұрын
Completely agree. I was never a fan of TGU. This exercise is quiet boring, difficult to remember all movements (when lerning), hard to chose correct weight (easy to hurt your self when kb is too heavy) and there is no impact when weight is too light. For me is hard to focus on correct activation muscle grups... yes I know is all about stabilty, but to be onest.. there is so many different exercises for stabilty whcich are less complicated and give you much more fun and feel of progressing.. I really appreciate Pavel but not for TGU.. for me traning must be simple fast and efective. Anyway great work Gregory!
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
💙💪
@ahmadelshbasy3222
@ahmadelshbasy3222 8 ай бұрын
Clean and press the like button :O
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Origin: Jason aka utubepunk (moderator on this channel) lol
@7777srd
@7777srd 3 ай бұрын
Very ethical practice.
@olafwilkens4159
@olafwilkens4159 7 ай бұрын
The Get-Up exercise makes the difference later in the retirement home whether we push other people's wheelchairs or sit in them ourselves…😉💪
@GauravMahajanAvaron
@GauravMahajanAvaron 8 ай бұрын
So, I gotta change the Everest workout ladder a bit.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Congrats on tackling this workout!
@moirajevtic5527
@moirajevtic5527 8 ай бұрын
Awesome I find it difficult so am very happy to give it up I do all the rest anyway ….
@yosefco3
@yosefco3 8 ай бұрын
every word!
@DrRonaldSIpock
@DrRonaldSIpock 8 ай бұрын
for me TGU is like a pogo stick. It is undeniably taxing exercise but I just don't have a place for it in my routine. Plus, I don't want to go supine for one exercise whereas I am bipedal for everything else.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Interesting perspective!
@DrRonaldSIpock
@DrRonaldSIpock 8 ай бұрын
@@lebe-stark I forgot to mention that my courage corner is in a basement where the coal was stored before the house converted to gas and electricity. So the floor is encrusted with coal. It would be quite a filthy endeavor to TGU
@thejuansshow6410
@thejuansshow6410 8 ай бұрын
I myself just do the Bent press instead more practical for everyday people.
@d3grap
@d3grap 8 ай бұрын
It does not help that you call it the WORST exercise in your reels, which it is not.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
It helps the algorithm, brother. At the end, I always serve a nuanced perspective. ;)
@d3grap
@d3grap 8 ай бұрын
@@lebe-stark that is true, and I find your perspective valuable. I think my problem is not with you, but with the obsession over effectiveness (mostly in work environments, tho.)
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
@@d3grapYou're raising a valuable point! Just as much as we can be obsessed with a particular exercise, we can also be consumed by "effectiveness". I have to keep this in mind in the future!
@esteban8183
@esteban8183 8 ай бұрын
Gregory, there’s a lot of dogma in the kettlebell community (maybe in the general fitness community overall) but I appreciate your open-minded approach to everything! Keep doing your thing brother!
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
Agree 100%! Appreciate the love! 🙏
@ru8775
@ru8775 8 ай бұрын
Gregory hates the get up I knew it 😂 After so many years he's fed up of it 😄
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
You got me brother! LOL
@ru8775
@ru8775 8 ай бұрын
@@lebe-stark 😂👍
@ktom5262
@ktom5262 3 ай бұрын
"Fancy stuff"?😂 Right there I knew he's very wrong about it. There's nothing fancy about the TGU.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 2 ай бұрын
Get Up is the most fancy kettlebell exercise ever.
@Pooh0Bear8
@Pooh0Bear8 8 ай бұрын
I workout as Powerlifting gym, and the majority of the gym members are not coordinated enough to do get-ups. They have to strength to do it, but it is not their jam. Just like I find Powerlifting boring.
@JEKYLLHYDE123
@JEKYLLHYDE123 7 ай бұрын
I have a problem with all those over 40 50 and so on workouts. Ability should be the consideration not age. I am 50 and still do the same shit as when I was 30.
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 7 ай бұрын
Major aspect about getting older is having less time available for physical activity. That's where kettlebells come in handy.
@jprice_
@jprice_ 7 ай бұрын
I always thought something is off about this "exercise", it makes sense that it belongs in a circus.
@starmsjc
@starmsjc 7 ай бұрын
I don’t like Turkish get ups only like a part of it that is a kneeling windmill.
@ytflix776
@ytflix776 8 ай бұрын
down with these stupid "clickbait" titles and thumbnails
@lebe-stark
@lebe-stark 8 ай бұрын
I'll forward you complaint to the Algorithm, brother! 💙
@idx1941
@idx1941 8 ай бұрын
It's all hype regarding the exercise. There truly is no carry over to any sport or activity....all you get better at is doing....A Turkish Get Up!
@maurituomisto8007
@maurituomisto8007 3 ай бұрын
I can't agree more. I always knew TGU is BS.
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