The shocking truth we are breaking the law and don't know it!!!

As we get closer to the summer lots of us will be breaking the law this year and may not even know about it. What law are we breaking and why as caravanners as the summer arrives?
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[@Sonya_Makepeace]

I don't know about caravans, but the law also changed with the ability to drive a 7 ton lorry on a car licence. I had to take a test for mine. But I sold it now. Never towed a caravan, but I have towed a horse trailer. Was I breaking the law?

[@RollingwithTheRobsons]

The law on caravans changed recently. Before that anyone who passed after 97 had to an extra licence. The lorry licence C1 hasn't changed yet and you still need to take a test.

[@guitarman256]

This is utter tosh. Show us one official piece of documentation which says the B+E isn't valid. It would be an effective ban on towing a decent sized caravan abroad as there is currently no way of sitting a test.

[@RollingwithTheRobsons]

David Whitehead technical director from ncc says this is the case and they would know.

[@guitarman256]

I emailed both David Whitehead and the Motorhome Matt podcast. The Motorhome Matt podcast has in a more recent episode changed there position, or at least they have had someone else on who believes that it is legal. I am awaiting a response from the original source but so far, I stand by my original statement - utter tosh.

[@wkdblue62]

How would they know between someone passing there test for BE and someone who hasn’t?

[@RollingwithTheRobsons]

@@wkdblue62 date you got it added to licence it says dates on it.

[@guitarman256]

@@wkdblue62 doesn't matter. There is no other source for this information which was basically retracted in the following episode of a podcast.

[@rossvjohnson]

I would say if you’ve been given the rights and haven’t applied for your new license (like me) so it isn’t printed on it, you could get done. But if you have a license with B+E on it, regardless of date, surely that means you have it. It says on your license you have it, they can’t say or prove you don’t. That’s my understanding anyway. It may be wrong, but as Rob says, surely the clubs, etc would have broadcast this if it was the case

[@robforrest12739]

If the licence you produce in France has BE category it has it - there is nothing on the licence that says you’ve done a test or not

[@RollingwithTheRobsons]

No but the dates let them know that you didn’t do the test. As you can’t now take it. Also advised to take pass cert now.

[@colinrimmer789]

I would suggest prosecution in EU is unlikely, you have a Driving Licence which entitles you to lawfully drive a vehicle or combination of vehicles in the UK. The Licence is issued by the Government Agency DVLA. This entitles you to drive as a visitor in other countries, you may need an International Driving Permit which essentially is a translation of your UK Licence. When people become Resident they in many instances are required to take a test. I would also suggest that providing you are licensed to drive your outfit in the UK then your Insurance Company will continue to provide you with cover abroad. I haven’t studied current legislation so please don’t accept my comments on face value if you intend to drive abroad. Can you provide a link to the relevant legislation you have studied Paul, I’d like to take a look, thanks.

[@daves1uk]

This isn't completely true. You need to have BE listed on your license (which will happen automatically if you renew it or change address etc) but if you don't have it listed, you are OK in the UK, but not abroad. You can send your license to DVLA for free to get BE added. Details here..... www.gov.uk/driving-abroad

[@RollingwithTheRobsons]

I can only tell you what the EU is saying as they don't recognise the new BE that is been given by the government. Ill have to look at the exact rules but if you renew and are in Europe you lose the BE straight away unless you have proof have taken the test.

[@adamsher86]

That's very interesting... But. Surely even if you passed your test after Jan 1997, like I did, and B+E was added when the govt changed, as long as your combined weight is under 3500kg as per previous rulings in the EU, you should be absolutely fine?

[@AC-SlaUkr]

Completely incorrect.

[@RollingwithTheRobsons]

David Whitehead technical director from ncc says this is the case and they would know.

[@paulrussell3951]

Sorry pal like your videos but this is nonsense. All new licences are being issued with the catergory and meantime you csn get an online print out showing your entitlement or alternatively call DVLA and pay £20 for a replacement licence which will show the categories. I know this as literally just off the phone to DVLA direct after reading your scaremongering post

[@stehume]

I would think that if you have B+E then you will be ok, I know what you are saying and all I can think is the pod cast you listened to is out of touch, I may be wrong. It's almost like saying well the uk might have passed that driver in the uk to drive a car but hey, we haven't in our countries so you can't drive here, I would also have thought that at least one of the two major clubs would have know about this

[@ashleyjohnson1908]

utter rubbish, otherwise "grandfather rights" as you put it, would also be breaking the law as they haven't taken a test either. If it's on your license as B+E you are within the law, they don't know if you took a test or not to gain that status!

[@RollingwithTheRobsons]

No but the difference that applied to whole of eu. The change happened to remove rights at same time. This has been a third country’s as we are classed as so doesn’t apply in eu. Same as otter third countries not part of eu is it’s not rubbish.

[@ashleyjohnson1908]

@@RollingwithTheRobsons where are you getting your info from? i've looked at the governments page regarding towing abroad and nothing stipulates that the B+E is illegal if no test is taken?

[@ashleyjohnson1908]

@@RollingwithTheRobsons and if B+E test is scrapped as you point out then how is anybody supposed to tow abroad? it all makes no sense.

[@seymourbums4300]

Haha as said before. Tosh. Good way to get more views for your video. But im out.

[@RollingwithTheRobsons]

They info came from the national caravan team not me. I guess they know more than I do unless the national caravan council is lying.