The Show with PJ Thum - Ep. 9 - How the use of POFMA against Ep. 8 proves I was right about POFMA

[@shinlucard]

Hi PJ! We as the younger generation appreciate your wisdom and courage to create these videos to explain what they have done over these years. With all the points that you have pointed out, clearly shows that they are unable to match your level of wisdom, not to even say in the event of debate. Jia you! Never give up hope! We will back you up!

[@kengtan1421]

Is is a statement of facts that Whiter than white is a satanic doctrines as I could find only whiter than snow in the Bible.?

[@BYang.Youtube]

Awesome work and refuting with facts rather than attacking the character. Salute and RESPECT!!!

[@MansMan42069]

What an excellent time to watch videos like this. The PAP dig themselves a deeper and deeper hole.

[@yong79]

Being educated and smart is one thing. being smart, educated and having the courage to speak up is another. I’m proud of you PJ, you represent the best of us. Your work has pulled back the wool from our eyes and allowed us to question the status quo. Thank you for making a difference. I wish you good health and happiness

[@coshinc5941]

Is he educated? Haha. He is not loyal to his country.

[@hairudind.1460]

Love you, PJ Thum. Your sharp and critical thinking is such an admiration and inspiration.

[@NewNaratif]

Thank you! - PJ

[@friktogurg9242]

@@NewNaratif Have you ever discussed why External Law Degree holders are not allowed to be admitted to the Singapore Bar? In the past UOL was allowed to take it if i am not wrong

[@iam1nerd]

Please don't join politics... Your knowledge and wisdom are way more valuable than playing those games

[@TheGreenPastures]

Tell it to all to the career politicians

[@iam1nerd]

@@TheGreenPastures not to devalue the role of politicians who has a genuine interest and ideology, I just feel that PJ's skill is perfect for a pundit

[@my2cents505]

Plse continue PJ. Just keep going at it. Chipping away bit by bit... One day, all ur good work n others like online citizen etc....free us

[@lifedouble2461]

You’re my kind of gung Ho and humorous but ‘truth hurts’ advocate. I really like your ‘tongue in cheek’ humour. A remedy and sore thumb to serious politician who thinks they’re always right and not to questioned. Your intellect is flatteringly comprehensible and thoughtful. Bold and broad and yet precise. It reveals your enemies’ arrogance and authoritarian style. Start a party and invite me to join, please.

[@TheJT505]

Great job in providing high quality contents as always. We Singaporeans have the right to know more

[@singaporeghostclub]

God of SG Law Mr. Shammugam isn’t as smart as he like us to think that he is, I see.

[@suhualeow1136]

Mr Shammugam may well be smart. But, he is not terribly "reasonable" :)

[@Emsyaz]

@@suhualeow1136 Smart in an oppressive manner

[@timothy7351]

Very coherent and well-detailed explanation about this law. Nicely done!

[@edwardgoeij]

Dr Thum, by saying "Please like the video for the KZbin algorithm", it can indirectly help to put your videos as recommended for more people to see.

[@theobserver7044]

Well said Dr Thum..Factual Facts..Keep up the good work,for Truth,Justice,Fairness,Accountability andTransparency.

[@kirankaur2823]

It has saddened me over the years to watch Singapore grow smaller in mind as laws that curtail the right to critical thinking have been passed with not a whisper of protest from citizens. I always hoped money was not the only basic commodity Singaporeans value. I only truly understood what Singapore was after I looked at it from the exterior. You are doing a great service to Singaporeans everywhere and I will provide full support to your site. May things change over time as people open their eyes.

[@LittleMissRollerCoaster]

Sidetrack: The Show with PJ Thum has the best opening than all the shows by Mediacorp! LOL!

[@KevGoesRiding]

Well done PJ!! My promise still stands, I'll make another donation to newnaratif each and every time they decide to POFMA you. Wish you all the best! LOL!! Those poor POFMA office guys and shanmugan must be crying right now going through the comments section again trying to dig up whatever dirt they can find on you (hi guys, thanks for wasting my taxpayer dollars!)

[@NewNaratif]

Thanks Kevin, we really appreciate your support! - PJ

[@choonguann]

Thank you so much for this video!!!

[@Vertosimagination]

Very enlightening to have watched this episode. Thank you for the clear and detailed investigations and the divide. Pofma should Pofma itself.

[@TrishhYoungg]

Keyboard POFMA minister warriors is like a black mirror episode that needs to happen 🤣

[@lilacfunk]

This was such a cheeky comeback. I love it! Dr Thum, you’re my new political Bae!

[@scentenniall]

Brilliant video as usual! I can only hope and pray more Singaporeans are tuned in into our political landscape as you.

[@sykey8266]

good stuff! I am both entertained and educated.

[@john80546]

You are trying to tame this lion and it’s pride in its own den! Kudos to you! Wonder how you are faring and if you are slowly being eaten alive? Pick your fight when the circumstances arises not fight when you think you are ready! Personally I think patience is the key to the success to taming the lion and it’s pride in its own den! With your highly skill set is not enough! However I wish you all the best in your endeavour!

[@futuredesignpodcast6905]

Dr Thum, it's time you were on the Joe Rogan podcast. That way you will get more publicity that could lead to more funding for the cause. This show is simply the most hard-hitting, candid and provocative piece of political commentary to have come our of Singapore. We've needed that for years. And we need more. Much more.

[@jkumar88]

This is how the PAP ministers in Singapore would very narrowly and superficially answers questions if cornered. No riots? When the public felt that the Minister of Manpower of Singapore should take the responsibility of her failure to contain the spread of coronavirus among the foreign workers at the dormitory and that she should apologise, she said no foreign workers asked for an apology. Therefore, in future if a minister provides a stupid answer to a smart question, then it means they accept the failure.

[@vincentowyong]

The BEST CANDIDATE for the MINISTER for EDUCATION in Singapore is DR PJ THUM.....period......and he should also be nominated for recognition by Pulitzer.Org.............

[@peterseah5587]

You should run for election, Singaporeans will vote a brave heart and a smart person like you, not a bootlicking paper scholar or general.

[@onlinevoice195]

Very clearly argued. Thank you.

[@7852378523Z]

Well done PJ. I suspect the minister is going to get MORE creative and POFMA all your implications of facts across all subtext and suggestive statements you have made. The actions of the PAP are desperate and only serve to expose their vulnerability with time. Oppression and tyranny are unsustainable forms of rule and will always backfire in the end.

[@All-By-Myself]

Don’t fake news need to be proven as fake news? otherwise Straits times and CNA will be in trouble 😂😂

[@DC-ti3ci]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 critical thinking for an excellent rebuttal!

[@NewNaratif]

Thank you! - PJ

[@hafa2011]

PJ thum I'm your fan. I wonder why your channel haven't hit 1 million subscribers as you critised government with hard core evidences and facts and Contradict statements by government itself. To all Singaporeans we need to support this kind channel to give awareness to the public of our government errors.

[@reignlife195]

I really did not notice Mona Lisa don't have eyebrows 😐

[@happykidbilal]

Hi PJ! Thanks for the eye-opening opinion. Isn’t the reason why your conclusions weren’t POFMA’ed, was due to it being opinions instead of ‘misleading facts’?

[@malcolmsoh5648]

Yup! ZERO harm.

[@leongsam5197]

Prof Thum, continue your enlightening sermons against Lucifer n his minions. Good will never triumph over evil. Karma is working against them

[@yong79]

I think what you really mean is evil will never triumph over good? Lol 🤣

[@lifemoveson8772]

Tk u Dr Thum , For explaining n clarifying facts in a fair manner for everyone to understand better. I salute yr honesty n purity n boldness. Many will complain behind but not bring fore front. This is a cowardice that most of us behaves. Cheers to yr drama n humour. - s l

[@TheLawrencesoh89]

the day when i went for reservist, and they tell me i have to cut away my long hair i kept all for a "1 day low key". i know that singapore is not a country of freedom. u just have to suck it up to what the government give you or take from you and so i dont really care about what the government do then. until this pofma where they say minister will decide on what is true and what is false. literally just make me think of the famous internet qoute : "man who though he'd lost all hope in humanity loses the last additional bit of hope he didn't even know he still had."

[@MansMan42069]

"Boleh!"

[@vistory]

POFMA and the use of it by the government is the reason why I am voting against the PAP.

[@03Phenex]

Thanks for telling me about what pofma truly stands for (Hi poor pofma agent scrolling through the comments)

[@NeptuneTargaryen]

are u serious. what r u trying to show people ?

[@vulcankeave9292]

Why is criticism of PAP leadership and government ILLEGAL and CRIMINAL ? This demonstrate lack of maturity and wisdom of the leadership to handle critic and dissent. Old man Lee have lead the way to sue for "false speech" as a benchmark to challenge falsehood. So why is POFMA relevant. Humans as the people of Singapore cannot be suppressed like a slave and it's not healthy to allow people to ventilate in social media either as form of pressure valve to release ONLY frustration not intended to instigate adverse revolt and it's unwise fir government to listen to underlying dissent against policies or complaints against abuse of power by certain officials. PAP must lead with a magnanimous and political maturity in democracy respecting the rights of the people. The old authoritarian method of governance is not sustainable and relevant in this digital age of technology.

[@ericakiki]

WE NEED SEASON 2!!! 😊

[@kevinyaucheekin1319]

Not me i am unreasonably reasonable. So reasonable i was subjected to punitive psycharity.

[@SBS2824Cc]

Oh yes another episode

[@IM-sk4wj]

POFMA only covers facts HDB flats are subsidised CPF is for retirement .....please add to the list.

[@MrEric5452]

Hi PJ, if you join politics or this coming GE, PAP will have another headache....statements again statements.

[@cvhawkeye6255]

Dr Thum why you don't want to run in the GR2020 v KS. You know you want to? POFMA vs Anti POFMA! The ultimate fight!

[@brickproduction1815]

Actually, because of the fear that I am having living in Singapore in getting my books suppressed or banned (I am an author), I feel that it is best to simply migrate elsewhere so that I don't be the next victim like those people in the 1987 and the early one, Coldstore. Because seriously, I do want to write without restrictions. I am actually working on a historical fiction revolving around Coldstore and the 1987 conspiracy but I don't know if it is publishable or it would be like another Animal Farm.

[@kwintin]

Ouch, poor Mona Lisa. Is there any way to buy your book without using Pay Pal?

[@krisnanstravelvlogscomings3893]

You should make more videos in KZbin dr thum it be more viral I love your Sarcasm

[@t.c9081]

Please marry me Dr. Thum!!

[@mindtwister1984]

21:45 Burden of proof lies with the defendant, not the prosecution. Hahahaha....imagine that reverses everything we know about the rule of law.

[@DarkPa1adin]

yes, this is sad. like this anyone in power can anyhow accuse others and it will stand true until proven false.

[@durisqwertyuiop]

From Wikipedia: A kangaroo court could also develop when the structure and operation of the forum result in an inferior brand of adjudication. A common example of this is when institutional disputants ("repeat players") have excessive and unfair structural advantages over individual disputants ("one-shot players"), which is precisely what is happening in the cases against Jolovan Wham, Terry Xu et al. I am interested in principles of law and justice, do you have any reading material to recommend?

[@ongchangheng]

Cool specs. Why the hook upside down.

[@seyan1991]

Yo Dawg, I heard you like POMFA, so we POFMA your POMFA video while you explain POFMA.

[@typetype]

Hmmm... I agree that POFMA is a poorly-worded law that is so messy that even Judges cannot agree on it. For this reason, it is also pliable to more severe abuses by the government. That being said, the points raised from 16:24 min to 18:50 min are opinions. This is why the government could not POFMA these points. It doesn't mean that the points are factual and legitimate. ----------------------------------------- "Problematic ways which goalposts are shifted... " - opinion "It should be administered by an independent watchdog, not politicians." - opinion "... makes it seemed like they are more concerned about what Singapore critics are saying ..." - opinion "... this isn't protecting democracy- it's promoting passive reliance on authority..." - opinion "...quibble over relatively minor issues." - opinion "... who would even dare to speak up to PAP or the government?" - opinion ----------------------------------------- Personally, I don't like POFMA. I also agree with some of the opinions above, especially the part about how POFMA promotes passive reliance on authority rather than empowering citizens to think and interpret facts for themselves. However, I think we need to be fair and balanced in our conclusions, and we shouldn't present our opinions as facts to endow it with an aura of legitimacy.

[@lenakohmaltesen1603]

Always thought your shows educate and entertain

[@NewNaratif]

Thank you! - PJ

[@xinneee]

For the 5 statements that did not get POFMA-ed, I thought that they actually sounded more like opinions/interpretations and hence were (rightfully) not POFMA-ed.

[@keefzcobra4616]

Again brilliant !

[@creatifimage3]

I like the videos you make. Very informational! Only 1 comment/suggestion. Avoid using the hand gesture of "Quote and unquote" too much each time you mention "Fake News". Distracting, looks like Donald Trump and after awhile, the effect is lost. As you talk use the term "Fake News" quite often in all your episodes, the "Quote & Unquote" hand gesture becomes distracting (I started counting the number of times you did it) and "looking forward" to your next "Quote & Unquote" hand gesture. Other that, really good stuff! Keep it up!

[@aprilsim7604]

It is quite unfortunate that the laws of the land are enacted to use against our own citizens in a frivolous manner. Elected MPs & ministers are given mandate to serve country & its people w/integrity, forethought, pride, accountability, & care. How does using POFMA to gab a fellow citizen doing what is deemed his duty /call to educate & inform be a threat to a legitimate govt or officials? Are we, the people, not entitled or permitted to listen to what others think or have to say about what is or has developed in our society, to come to our own conclusion as to the reality presented or not? So that we can hold those in govt accountable after all it is our votes that give them the mandate to high office? Or affirm & commend them when we understand that they have done good indeed? Was there instigation to arms, subversion, or revolt? Criticism of & truth telling to those in govt are necessary to keep them on the right track for the sake of country & people's wellbeing. Is govt perfect, can do no wrong, cannot go astray, cannot go rogue, or judge their own actions honestly all the time? Seriously, this move using POFMA against Thum may just backfire in a bigger way than allowing healthy political discussions, opinions, & criticisms. Whoever is in govt needs the people behind them. Such a move would alienate even more the increasingly disenfranchised, unhappy citizenry affected by bad policies, ever higher costs of living, and good jobs getting scarcer... What a let down

[@allisterw5371]

👍x100

[@NewNaratif]

Thank you! - PJ

[@wuwuyang]

Very nice

[@burhan999]

PAP FOREVER 💕💕💕💕

[@sakyahsamad8310]

I like to hear Mr PJ Thum give lexcher,in You Tiub thanks

[@binyoung7297]

You secretly like being called Daddy, don't you.

[@akidv3]

At the end of the day.... It still belong to pure Singaporean..... To chose.... Sadly we all don't have the same thinking.... Coz most of Singaporean are pro P. A. P....

[@side_B_fanatic]

Maybe it's not a civil servant but the minister himself who's combs the KZbin comment...?

[@weehow75]

Very smart guy. How they pofma you, it show how stupid they are

[@NewNaratif]

Thank you! - PJ

[@muhdhafiz123]

I wouldn't mind if you wanted to put ads in your video if it helps with revenue. Wish I found this channel way before elections, and bought your book before that

[@ahming123]

Can you run for MP??

[@minghowlogic6223]

The ugly character assassination campaigns unleashed in the later part of GE 2020 really re-affirm New Naratif on this episode.

[@evans5831]

Perhaps what wasn't POFMAed was interpreted as a false OPINION (not FACT) and as such couldn't be POFMAed? So your conclusion, that omitting those conclusions in the POFMA further validates them, seems to be contingent on the government's interpretation of your conclusions; whether it was false opinions or true facts. The governments interpretation of the line between fact and opinion seems to be the bigger problem here

[@yeoyeoking]

If we donate, will the government know? Asking for a friend😶 p.s legit asking for a friend, I have no interest in power or politics in Singapore, please don’t arrest me thanks

[@democrazy9546]

sth not false does not mean its true...

[@baniabdullah4473]

If correct why not, we can debate, truth matter bro.

[@decentraleo8958]

At least they still remember its the 99% who are holding them up in their seats.

[@Tommashelbyeee]

61%

[@kissCharles]

u da legend!

[@rameshhansaravendra]

Are you sponsored by the open society foundation?

[@ignatiusewe4370]

Saul Goodman of Singapore 👍🏻

[@TimothyChan]

Can you teach me how to swim from oxford to Singapore ....

[@baniabdullah4473]

It's a good word, Chilled Out, hahaheeee

[@jacobaeden]

shantay you stay

[@ahming123]

Please run for MP. Please

[@coshinc5941]

You are exploiting people here. What narrative are you talking about? Asking Dr M to get involved in our politics? Shame on you.

[@HarwinderSingh-yl2yp]

Wah Lau the interpretations had one Rojak!!!!!

[@DarkPa1adin]

hall of fame

[@baniabdullah4473]

One more word from minister affordable in anything, kelaka lahh

[@delonlee7546]

Why can't we donate in SGD?

[@teo88888able]

iNTEPRETATION IS REASONABLE

[@hztjtao]

Majority of minions in Singapore will not care about these because they feel it doesn’t take $$ out of their pocket, well, they have no opinion on many things either. Try suggest an increasing GST, u will have many views and comments.

[@RonLarhz]

Hahahaha... That same one that day no lgbt discrimination( in school)...

[@Ace-cv1xd]

DISCREEETTIONNNNNNNNNNNN HAHAHAHA

[@baniabdullah4473]

Really s'porean panic food market closed, u telling me spore got 1 food market, there r so many food market & others to get food

[@exs1803]

What a clown Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahhaa

[@MrLEECHINSOON]

PJ Thun video format is like watching Mr Bean comedy.

[@Gl3nnLim]

Thats a W 🤣🤣

[@malcolmsoh5648]

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[@decentraleo8958]

i would give you 0.01 btc if you accept though

[@ahwongwk]

no shit... the gov waste time to check your u tube and try to zip you.. thats really wasting of time and manpower to go after a reasonable person..

[@horologyenthusiast8523]

Ure the BAUSS