The Siege and Battle of the Alamo: Day 13

[@robertolipani8163]

I am studying the history of Texas and began reading about the Alamo a few days ago. Thank you from heart for preserving this place and for sharing. Stay safe everyone. Hope to visit the Alamo someday. Greetings from Italy

[@StephenLuke]

Have you seen the 2004 film The Alamo?

[@robertolipani8163]

@@StephenLuke Hello, not yet, but I can't wait to see it. Have a great day and stay safe

[@mydaddy5393]

The Americans were Bullys who took advantage of Mexican generosity when Mexicans welcomed them to Mexican Territory. Imagine you welcome me to your home and I kick you out or kill you and now I own your home and property. That's essentially what they did to Mexico and many Native Indian tribes along the East Coast.

[@1089maul]

Roberto, ci sono due film di Alamo. I film del 1960 sono eccitanti da guardare ma non storicamente accurati. il film del 2004 è molto più accurato. Saluti dall'Inghilterra, Bob

[@gypsybooker9940]

Find a copy of the book titled the Raven it is book about Sam Houston what he wanted his battle before, and after the Alamo, his fight to preserve Texas and it will also show you a map of what Sam, Houston actually wanted Texas to look like

[@AssinnippiJack]

I've been fascinated with the entire Alamo story since I was just a little guy. The story is far better than any Hollywood production can undertake. Brave men both Texans & Mexican willing to follow their own beliefs & principles. Hopefully will finally visit such a sacred place of history.

[@sphinxrising1129]

Brave men "who wanted slavery as a way of life" (just one of the reasons Mexico attacked, as it was deemed against Mexican law), as you do not live in someone else's house, or in this case country & tell them how you are going to do as your please. So, the battle of the Alamo was about anything except freedom.

[@Vazcular]

@@sphinxrising1129 LMAO! Most Alamo fighters were too poor to even own slaves you dip shit!

[@historicalmistakes8732]

@@Vazcular While I don't think that slavery was a main cause for the defense in the Alamo, that argument is very flawed for a variety of reasons. Looking at the Civil War for instance, though most southerners did not own slaves, almost all fought to preserve slavery. This was for many reasons which included that it had become almost a way of life. They also knew southern economy ran off the 4 million slaves on the south keeping the south thriving. All but one Declaration of Secession from the 11 seceded states declared slavery the main reason for secession. So while people don't own slaves, it doesnt mean they wont want to keep or expand on slavery.

[@swampdonkey1567]

@@sphinxrising1129 except no its because they didn't learn spanish or convert to Catholicism and Santa Ann was a literally a dictator. Large reason for the name of napoleon of the west.

[@rodrigjose]

@@Vazcular the leaders own slaves, bowie, travis, and so on! the common fighters were fighting so they could get free land. read your history.

[@bernardflood8289]

Greetings from Ireland. I enjoyed the series, thanks.

[@vernongonzales3257]

They were losers and land grabbers not heroes!

[@therealC0SMYK]

Cheers from across the pond

[@AS-zk6hz]

The Texans stood alone for 9 years as a separate Republic. Bravo Texas.

[@bobapbob5812]

They didn't want to. They wanted the US to pay their debts which were substantial.

[@deafsmith1006]

And some think we should have kept it that way!

[@austinstratman1809]

Actually closer to ten years. And we weren't alone. We had allies such as France.

[@kmaher1424]

@@austinstratman1809 Sam Houston flirted with various countries but there were no formal allies.

[@marthagomez7335]

Had they not had the support of the United States Mexico would have retaken the territory that is theirs. Texas. Was never a republic, it’s always been Mexico. The Mexican flag 🇲🇽 will fly over Tejas again. God bless Mexico and pass judgment on greedy pirates.

[@raulgarcia8063]

I grew up in texas few miles from alamo..still live here.....this city was once in the hollywood highlights..movies .sitcoms..films..drag racing were once popular..not anymore..its become sort of a forgotten little gem..i love it.....there a u.s. state park just south of texas called espada...lots of history there..and i have found countless history items buried there....i now have 3 boys and they love that park..it spans about 2-3 miles long alobg san antonio river and cuddles 4 1700s spanish missions

[@panderson9561]

My dad is from San Antonio. He used to drag race at Alamo Heights Speedway...if I remember the name correctly. I've looked for it but can never find it. I'm either mistaken on the name or it doesn't exist anymore.

[@sascotttx5145]

@@panderson9561 Alamo Dragway, just West of Highway 16, on the South side of town. If you turn East, instead, you'll end up at the Toyota Plant. I'm not sure when they stopped racing there. I went to the Nationals there in '87 or '88. The track and the bleachers were still intact about 15 years ago, then slowly got overtaken by development to support Toyota and a campus for Texas A&M University built on that side of San Antonio. I know an Anderson that did some racing there. He also did some of the announcing over the PA system.

[@robm9460]

It is my belief after reading countless numbers of books on that battle that Crockett and 6 other defenders surrendered after the Alamo was overrun and they had no means left to fight. Then Santa Ana had them slaughtered in front of him. Someday, I hope they open that sealed box in that San Antonio church alleged to contain the remains of Crockett, Bowie and Travis and DNA the remains and give them a proper burial.

[@dztxtea]

@@panderson9561 That would be Alamo Dragway, which closed several years ago.

[@dztxtea]

Espada is part of the Missions National Historical Park, not a state park. And no, you're not digging up countless relics there. That's a federal offense.

[@praktikalnurse504]

After reading some of the comments, here is my thoughts: I live in Texas its home. I am an immigrant myself. I cannot think of anywhere else I would rather live, and have embraced ALL cultures here in the Lone Star state. Stop dwelling on the past, its history, and done with. We can learn from it, but it isn't changing anything today. If you reside in Texas, and are here LEGALLY, we are TEXANS!! We have our problems, ain't nothing perfect, let's work to resolve our issues and stop acting butt hurt about "who stole what from who". Get over it, it's in the past, and become a productive member of society.

[@SKY-jv9ue]

Nurse: Trouble is, the Anglos at the Alamo, over 90% of them were illegals, armed and dangerous, from the states! They deserved their fates-Remember the Alamo, a Mexican victory for all time!

[@basshuntet607]

@@SKY-jv9ue what about Santa Anna? What happened at San jacinto??!?

[@SKY-jv9ue]

At the Massacre at San Jacinto, the vanguard of the Mexican army was ambushed by Houston's men, and Santa Anna was captured, and held prisoner for seven months.

[@joebloggs8636]

@@basshuntet607 he was destroyed in about 30 seconds..tough guy

[@joebloggs8636]

The scum "santa Claus"executed about 350 men while the "bad" texicans let that scum live and walk away..i would have strung him up for all to see..death to tyrants!

[@michaelward9167]

What is lost in the wash is that the Mexican Army was a good well trained army. PROBLEM? They were poorly led.

[@SKY-jv9ue]

They were led by Santa Anna, that was their curse! The other leaders had sense, but they were over ruled by SA.

[@bobmcrae5751]

Santa Ana's assault on the Alamo was a piece of strategic genius but because he was a Mexican Americans will never give him the credit he deserves.

[@SKY-jv9ue]

Yes, that correct, and a lot of truth is in it!

[@mikeparmer7237]

@@bobmcrae5751 haha and san jacinto.real genius commander haha

[@bobmcrae5751]

The jokes on you for being ignorant of history. Santa Ana bombarded the Alamo day and night, not allowing the defenders any opportunity to sleep. The day of the early morning assault, Ana stopped the bombardment and the defenders slept for the first time in weeks. Ana's attack caught these men asleep and many were bayoneted in their beds. Ana's attack achieved total surprised and quickly overwhelmed the defenders. Meanwhile, Ana's cavalry swept up and killed all those who tried to flee, including Davy Crockett. It was a excellent plan that almost worked to perfection. The down side of the attack was that most of the heavy Mexican casualties were caused by friendly fire.

[@dannycrockett9878]

Cool little well put together piece

[@billkenny853]

A distant family cousin died at the Alamo. James Kenny nineteen years old,

[@howardkoontz4735]

I have been to the Alamo about 4 times for business or travel. Each time I learn something new. No, the cellar was dug about 5 or so years ago. It is a storage for the gift store. I have been to Mexico City and visited Chapultepec. There is a small room with a display case of 2 long guns, 1 pistol, the flag of the New Orleans Blues, and a lance pennant. The applets of Santa Anna and his dueling pistols. Beside the display case is a small cannon, probably a 2lb. on a wood, naval type carriage. At the end of the room is the original 1834 Mexican Constitution. Nothing else. The room has a sign in English and Spanish. It only said "Alamo"

[@t4texastomjohnnycat978]

Howard Koontz Is the green, white, & red Mexican flag with "1824" on it that was flown from the Alamo walls there in Chapultepec also? Thanks for your very interesting info.

[@mikefranklin1253]

Santa Anna ordered several citizens of Bexar to identify the bodies of Travis, Bowie and Crockett.

[@alexhayden2303]

Come on AMERICA! What is happening to you? Did they die for nothing; for you to give it ll away? Remember the ALAMO!

[@juantrujillo4866]

alex jervis then you should not have invaded

[@ronnietravis7972]

alex jervis That’s the way to tell em Alex!

[@tlacaelelcecelic6755]

Become a fool. The story that revolves around the events in the Alamo is nothing but a symbol of Yankee interference in Mexican territory. Americans are truly brazen. The good news is that his petulance is already beginning to overwhelm the world. And Davy Crockett gave up. An American journalist admitted it, and the furor it provoked was such that they even interviewed her from a radio station in Texas, without her knowing it.

[@ronnietravis7972]

Tlacaélel Cecelic I agree with you on some of that, except I’m no smart ass yankee, I’m from the south, and maybe your yankee word and mine is not the same, American TV has put things in our mine for years that’s not true.

[@SKY-jv9ue]

Remember the Alamo, a Mexican victory forever!

[@kevinfranck908]

The new battle is under way now but they want the whole country.

[@SKY-jv9ue]

Good, you loafers who voted for trump, can just go back to Ole Europe, where you all came from, sabe?

[@edmonddantes3640]

@@SKY-jv9ue you must really live a sad and useless life when all you do is troll to feel important, so smug, condescending and tough talking in your anonymity . You have commented here many times but have never shared one intelligent idea or opinion just snarky baiting..

[@SKY-jv9ue]

Then why did an idiot like you respond to me? Doesn't trump give you enough excitement?

[@SKY-jv9ue]

Sounds good to me-What was in the beginning, s/be in the end! Seems Santa Anna was not defeated at the San Jacinto Massacre!

[@Elitecommando501]

You take the southwest. Now we'll take your whole country. Its actually a genius plan without firing single shot. The future of america will be spanish descent.

[@williambornstein3664]

Remember the Alamo

[@SKY-jv9ue]

Yes, remember, it will always be a MEXICAN victory FOREVER! VIVA!

[@rogercortez2509]

.....and why William Borstein would you want to remember the Alamo after a sound ass-kickin'! Kinda have your priorties "bass ackwards" doncha?

[@hairydogstail]

@@rogercortez2509 When they routed the mex's and showed them the same mercy, that's why they remembered the Alamo...

[@rogercortez2509]

@@hairydogstail You are one dumb ass! Who routed the mex's? They remember the Alamo because they got an ass-kickin'. 1

[@jerrydonquixote5927]

Brave defenders White and Hispanic fought together against Mexican opposition of General Santa Anna...

[@emmanuelake421]

Hispanics were still white, for something everyone wanted to create a slave republic and Houston came to Texas with the only idea of ​​annexing Texas to the USA

[@marthagomez7335]

Before you can be considered a defender of a place, first it has to belong to you ! The Alamo was in Mexico! The Mexicans were the defenders, defending against invasion and terrorism. Viva mi general Santanna Cabrones gorrones!

[@jerrydonquixote5927]

@@marthagomez7335 keep taking your covid shots dummy lol

[@marthagomez7335]

@@jerrydonquixote5927 you don’t even need them, you’re already brain stripped. I don’t care if you don’t like hearing the truth. Big baby Huey! Oh what a big spoiled baby. Go get your pampers changed Dilbert!

[@jerrydonquixote5927]

@@marthagomez7335 let's talk about the great Apache Warrior Geronimo yeah his unarmed wife and kids and mother were killed by the Mexican Army

[@NEAmarillo79107]

Sunday March 6 1836 Day 13 4 AM Santa Anna gives the orders to attack the Alamo

[@praktikalnurse504]

@@tlacaelelcecelic6755 didnt go over well for Santa Anna when he met up with Sam Houston, did it?

[@dansnyder2003]

Tlacaélel Cecelic keep thinking that , ha-ha

[@tlacaelelcecelic6755]

@@praktikalnurse504 Houston did not do well in Europe when, through the Velasco Treaties signed by Santa Anna, he tried to recognize Texas as an independent nation, and instead laughed in his face. Santa Anna applied it to Houston. He would have tried to wake Santa Anna in San Jacinto first, maybe things would not have gone so well for the crow...

[@NEAmarillo79107]

@@praktikalnurse504 No It didn't because Santa Anna had already made his mistake just like his idol did at Waterloo

[@t4texastomjohnnycat978]

God bless our American A N D Texan heroes who fought and died at the Alamo.🇺🇸

[@emmanuelake421]

Pure white supremacist slaver faithful to the USA

[@emmanuelake421]

Even Houston always wanted to annex Texas to the USA, he never wanted a Republic, he believed in manifest destiny

[@rogercortez2509]

Damn you're ignorant!

[@rogercortez2509]

@@emmanuelake421 Manifest Destiny was started by President Polk some time after the Alamo. It wasn't a concept during Houston's time.

[@hairydogstail]

@@emmanuelake421 Unlike your pure brown racist faithful taking the land from the Spanish and Natives who owned the land first...

[@bhartley868]

What gets me I bet anything the Alamo defenders thought no one would remember this little battle and their sacrifices were of little matter. We cannot seem to forget it, it is played out over and over again, it is like a curse in a way...

[@tinsote7176]

Santa Anna was not the Napoleon of the West. He was the Mussolini of the West.

[@mattpagel2328]

Fact

[@deafsmith1006]

No... he was a Hitler style dictator. All he wanted was power, absolute power and fame... as some kind of military genius.

[@kevind8752]

I remember listening to the song Ballad of the Alamo by Marty Robbins back in the ‘60’s.

[@robertnegron9706]

“ Uncommon valor was a common virtue “ “ Remember the Alamo!”

[@rogercortez2509]

Orale Robert....can you be a little more creative in your quote. If I'm not mistaken Winston Churchill said this not you.

what is the position of alamo 2004 ? at austin ?

[@cryptozoomauler5505]

It was a ranch near Austin where they built the sets.

@@cryptozoomauler5505 the exact position

[@matthewstavrowsky9998]

@ The set is located near a natural water feature called "Hamilton Pool", If you look for Hamilton Pool on a map search it is right next to it.

[@dannyramirez8094]

@ dripping springs, milton raimers ranch near Austin.

[@ToryBoy55]

If all of the defenders of the Alamo were killed, how can such a detailed account be given?

[@joebloggs8636]

Are you high

[@disastrousfake]

@@joebloggs8636 lol

[@treystewart731]

Survivors who were non-combatants (as they were spared), and Mexican soldiers.

[@rogercortez2509]

De la Pena papers and if all the defenders were killed there would be that many bodies laying around...approximately 240.....on the other hand "detailed accounts" are made up by all white folks and other white folks believe it! The detailed accounts are inundated with lies of the gringo kind. If those lies of the detailed accounts were told often enough you illiterate folks believe them.

[@jameskennedy1295]

People don't understand that Texas beat Santa Ana, they kicked his ass. Not the U.S. army. That needs to be explained more. Before Texas was a state or republic. American's and Mexican Texans won that war for independence which lead to statehood later. That's an incredible story.

[@newvibes789]

This video is about the Alamo so the Mexicans are the ones who kicked ass!!

[@robertboney4493]

The Alamo defenders were true heroes; they knew they would die but fought against discrimination in property rights, voting and religion imposed by Santa Anna etc.

[@Chief2Moon]

The conditions to Americans coming into Texas&getting free land, was to accept the Catholic faith& obey Mexican law. The problems started when Americans started flooding in,didn't fulfill those rules,& decided to TAKE Texas. Plain old historical truth.

[@Chief2Moon]

+Lenny Murphy Americans were given land grants by the Mexican government under 2 conditions...1- obey the Mexican constitution, 2- become Catholic. It was the Texan's decision to renege on the agreement that caused General Cos to attempt removing the cannons from the Alamo,& it was the failure of the Alamo defenders to adhere to the requirements pertaining to the land grants&a refusal to give up the cannons to General Cos (Santa Anna's brother in law) that precipitated the battle at the Alamo.

[@robertboney4493]

Bull...mexico denied the religious and property rights of settlers.

[@Chief2Moon]

+Robert Boney Didn't do so well in history class,eh?

[@whiteknightcat]

@@Chief2Moon "Americans were given land grants by the Mexican government under 2 conditions...1- obey the Mexican constitution, 2- become Catholic. It was the Texan's decision to renege on the agreement" Santa Anna became president in 1833 but let his extremely liberal vice-president, Dr. Valentín Gómez Farías, to be the de facto administrator of Mexico. After a number of very unpopular reforms were enacted (which undermined the power of the ruling elite), Santa Anna took over direct control in 1834, abolished their Congress, and formed a new Catholic, conservative, centralist government. In 1835 the existing Constitution was replaced with a new one (Los Siete Leyes) and assumed a military backed dictatorship of the country. It can be argued that the Texian rebels, who were only one faction in Mexico who resented the new dictatorship, were no longer bound to the conditions of their grants as the government with which they'd made the agreements no longer existed.

[@adriangarcia543]

I wonder is true Mexican soldiers take Crockett stuff? I remember in 2004 movie the Alamo 3 Mexican soldiers holding his stuff

[@tlacaelelcecelic6755]

Many of the Mexican soldiers who fought at the Alamo were cam volunteers. They did not know Crockett. Santa Anna did not know him either, he only gave authorization to the Mexican army to start the looting.

[@vincethepince6247]

anyway you see it of course they still took what ever shit they found

[@praktikalnurse504]

Yes. When I was in the military, and throughout history, "to the victor goes the spoils". It not uncommon to pick up "trinkets", but in light of modern trip wires and explosives, I would advise against it these days. I was military Intel, and we often took items to learn about the enemy. It was often out of respect, to let the opposing side to know the fate of their soldiers. Personal effects are sometimes returned to the family, but not often. Depends on who you are fighting.

[@SKY-jv9ue]

It was sold at auction after the battle as well as other effects of the defenders. This was written about by Mr. Cara, Santa Anna's personal secretary. The army got about 2,200 dollars for the personal effects of those illegal aliens from the states.

[@rodrigjose]

spoils of war as always.

[@historydude4547]

Most who aren't from Texas misconstrued the Alamo's story.

[@RobertJones-ux6nc]

I am from Texas and I love anything about the Alamo!

[@tommm350]

Defend? Wasn’t San Antonio part of Mexico at that time? 🤔🤨

[@letsgobrandon987]

Technically yes it was part of Mexico, but it was a rebellious province that wanted independence from Mexico so Santa Ana sent in the army to put it down by all means necessary. Similar to the 13 American colonies versus the English 40 years earlier. Many Americans from the North and East had emigrated to Texas so the general public in the United States leaned heavily to support Texan independence even if the US Government wasn’t officially involved. That’s why so many US volunteers came to support Texas. 9 years later the fledgling Republic of Texas joined the US family and the rest is history.

[@conorolaf1762]

They fought and gave their lives for Texas to be a sovereign nation and not to simply be a state within The USA.

[@rickyrichards7596]

Even the south part of Wyoming was in the Republic of Texas...it was Huge!!! Once the USA told Texas, when it tried to borrow 2 mil., that all of Texas was NOT worth 2 mil.! Now,... look at the gold found in the Rocky Mountains of (Now) Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico and the Black Gold in the Texas oil fields. LOL! We are the only state that reserved the right to leave the union if we deem it necessary.

[@keithdunn8835]

189 brave men held the Alamo for 13 days I have a cancer the one place wanted to visit was the Alamo because of my cancer they normally send me a yearly medal but no t 4 the last 2 years .mr KEITH Dunn 7 alder grove Boston lincs England pe210db

[@christopherboone9802]

Oh so wrong....Sam Houston knew Texas who eventually have to join the US...Texas as a republic had no industry, etc to sustain it. The new country went broke fairly quickly and Houston knew that would happen. BTW, I AM a native Texan....and know the history of my state...

[@christopherboone9802]

@@rickyrichards7596 nope...Texas has NO legal way to leave the US....that's an urban legend. If it wanted to, IT CAN be split into 5 states...but leaving the union?? Nope sorry dude.. that's FALSE

[@petersrightbut8297]

What battle cry??

[@Shotbya3]

Peters Right but, Remeber the Alamo

[@rickyrichards7596]

Remember Goliad 3 times as many Texians died there and the 2 battles in Refugio where all the Texians died and just like in Goliad, the ones who surrendered were lined up and shot! Gonzales, was a small battle, and San Jacinto, where the Mexicans were caught napping, were the only two battles the Texians won.

[@mikeparmer7237]

and killed many more mexs.all over after san jac.haha

[@rickyrichards7596]

@@mikeparmer7237 That's right. The battle of San Jacinto only lasted about 18 minutes, but the killings of Mexican troops went on for about 4 hours. (that was their revenge, then later Americans that had lost loved ones came to Texas to kill any Mexican they saw!)

[@nicosogrecos]

You mean the one that really counted. caught napping, poor excuse..

[@rickyrichards7596]

@@nicosogrecosSanta Anna had no respect for Sam Houston's army, split his forces 3 ways, (just like Col. Custer did). Santa Anna did not think Houston would attack him so, he did not worry about sentries posted. It was about 600 men against 600 men. The Texians were hell bent for revenge. When the killing began...Houston was not about to try and stop them from taking it.

[@nicosogrecos]

@@rickyrichards7596 So it was Santa Anna's lack of respect and the fatal flaw of underestimation of Houston that led to his defeat,of course revenge was on the menu, except Houston did not play the deguelo and put everyone to death .

[@TheJESUSCHRISTRULES]

George Soros, Remember the Alamo!!!

[@tlacaelelcecelic6755]

Mexicans, and many historians around the world, remember the Alamo well as the symbol of US interference in the affairs of Mexico

[@SKY-jv9ue]

God ordered the Alamo, a MEXICAN victory for all time!

[@tinsote7176]

@@tlacaelelcecelic6755 No Santa Anna, himself was an interference to the affairs of his country. He was a traitor to his own people.

[@markd5625]

@@SKY-jv9ue For all time? You realize they lost Texas just over two months later.

[@SKY-jv9ue]

@@markd5625 Yes for all time. Did the Mexicans really lose Texas? Go to Texas, and see the millions of Mexicans there, and in all positions - oh well!

[@007WATERDOG]

We should save the movie set of the Alamo out in brackettville Texas

[@robertgutierrez1864]

In his last letter Travis refer 2 his country it wasn't his country yet that says everything they were interested in

[@edmonddantes3640]

The revolution began to regain the rights guaranteed as a province by the Mexican Constitution of 1824 that Santa Anna abolished when he proclaimed himself dictator. The provinces of Zacatacas and Yucatan also revolted for the same reason. Later Texians declared for republic. In his letter Travis said he would die like an American, meaning he would die for liberty. Texians in the Alamo were unaware that Texas had declared itself a republic since they were under siege at the time and very little mail got through , so they were still fighting to get back their rights under Mexican law. Nice try.

[@readsmith4223]

If we were that interested in it, how come we didn't keep Mexico after we conquered it and kicked the crap right out of Mexico and it was ours? No we gave it back so it could become the shit pile it is that makes it's citizens run in hordes illegally to this GREAT COUNTRY ALL DAY LONG...

[@mikeparmer7237]

AND got

[@t4texastom587]

God bless A L L of our Texas Independence heroes.🇨🇱

[@drakadog7405]

Good thing the Mexican forces did not think to put snipers in that hotel to the left .

[@jameshorton7496]

They did, but they got caught up ordering room service and watching tv.

[@drakadog7405]

@@jameshorton7496 Makes sense.

[@tonynewburey8900]

When I retired from the Army before every mission to my boys Alamo

[@jaywatts333]

why don't you remember my cuz dr john purdy reynolds who did here

[@lnm7276]

During the siege 20# of the Texan soldiers had succumbed to a bacterial wonderland. The battle starting out well organized on both sides, it eventually turned into a mob action with wild horrible fighting at the base of the walls, particularly at Alamo's north wall which assumed the look of a slaughter house according to the participant fightin' Mexican soldiers N civilian eyewitness accounts after the battle of the Alamo.

[@AS-zk6hz]

Travis was a. Lawyer

[@rogercortez2509]

no, he was a Liar!

[@donaldkoelper5807]

The Alamo was one of the most foolish and avoidable battles in history. Col. Travis disobeyed his orders to vacate the position, effectively signing the death warrant of all 250 men under his command. Gen. Santa Anna should've bypassed the position, leaving 500 men to hold Travis in place. Instead, he conducted formal siege operations, and then foolishly ordered a full-scale assault on a heavily fortified outpost. The Alamo is a monument to the vainglorious egos of both commanders.

[@michaelward9167]

You are right. If Santa Ana had surrounded the Alamo with troops and led the others after Sam Houston, well he might have caught up with Houston before he had time to form and train an army. San Jacinto was no accident. Houston said, "We fight here." He, not Santa Ana chose the ground.

[@Chief2Moon]

+Bass Huntet you're an ignorant man sir.

[@basshuntet1455]

Dallas DautermanDallas wrong again......one riot. One ranger! BUILD the wall

[@Chief2Moon]

+Bass Huntet the wall we need is one between Trump supporters& the rest of the country. Hahaha

[@phyteaux]

Travis was ordered to leave El Alamo. He did not want to leave the canons because he did not have the means to take them with them. They did no have oxen to do this task.

[@Loser177]

Texas: I’m free lol Mexico: *spanish no* US: he’s free lmao Mexico: *more Spanish no* US: ***s l a p p*** Mexico: *ded lol*

[@disastrousfake]

wut

[@hobertlee7598]

God Bless Texas

[@JohnnyRebWasATexan]

They were called TEXIAN'S. Why are we neglecting important information about our Texas history?

[@t4texastomjohnnycat978]

TexasJohnny Obviously, "Texan" is the short way to say "Texian". Texian... Texan, whatever.😅👍 By the way, great username, TexasJohnny!👍

[@petrstanovsky7648]

One must the defenders did their best despite of odds and fight with amazing bravery.

[@tomek1867]

Hmm, I like Dallas serial.

[@innerdinosaur2757]

Happy 4th of July 🇬🇧🦖🇲🇽

[@abrahamdavidrodriguezsilve4173]

Feliz 16 y 27 de septiembre 🇪🇦🇲🇽🦅

[@ChineseChicken1]

The Mexican Army was defeated by a bunch of settlers. Did Santa Anna really think they had a chance when the American Army invaded years later? The Napoleon of the West had multiple Waterloo’s. Lol

[@SKY-jv9ue]

No, the Mexican was NOT defeated by those illegal alien invaders from the north, read your history China boy. as for the war 10 years later, 20,000 American died there short round. Gen. Lee had his Waterloo too, as did many generals of history! LMAO at YOU Shout Round!

[@ChineseChicken1]

Roger Borroel The American flag flew over Mexico City. That’s all I need to know.

[@SKY-jv9ue]

And Mexicans are all over America, that's all we need to know!

[@ChineseChicken1]

Roger Borroel Too bad Santa Anna wasn’t anything close to being the Napoleon of the West. Then maybe you wouldn’t be so bitter.

[@SKY-jv9ue]

Bitter? I'm not bitter- whose bitter is all Texas when they celebrate their loss to the Mexican Federal Army...that's why they always say, Remember the Alamo! Hey Alfred, you bitter?

[@Skipper.17]

Davey crockett was captured an executed. He didn’t die in battle.

[@Legohander]

How we got texas was when we captured santa anne and we said either leave to Mexico or die that os hpw we had teaxs but he said I'll go back to Mexico

[@texanfan2627]

How do you defend something that doesn't belong to you??

[@constantine7382]

When you lose a war, you lose what you lose. It all belongs to America because we won it.

[@hairydogstail]

The same way the Mexicans took it from the Spanish and the native Indians, thats how LOL...

[@constantine7382]

@@hairydogstail Funny how they always fail to mention that!

[@mickg8306]

I thought it has been proven Crocket and a number of others surrendered after the battle but was executed on the orders of Santa Anna.......

[@rebelwalzt]

It's a he said/she said deal. Santa Anna and some of his officers said Crocket was captured and killed. but other officers some Mexican enlisted veterans after the war and the civilian survivors said only those too seriously wounded were taking prisoners' and killed.

[@tinsote7176]

No claim of how he died has been 100% proven.

[@vincentbugalia3858]

YEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAA.....REMEMBER THE ALAMO !!!

[@geofuego1]

I guess Texas still mad about the Alamo

[@Mr.56Goldtop]

Santa Ana didn't give the order to attack, some over exuberant Mexican troops are the north wall jumped the gun.

[@jfk1792]

Your thinking tries to erase historically documented wrongs against humanity. " Well yeaaah , they brought slavery , but hey , we eventually got Mc Donalds & cheezy fries ? "

[@3lullabies]

How many females were inside? If Dickinson was one of the women that survived.

[@leobelmonte856]

TEJAS (con j), fue de Mejico. Los gringos se lo arrebataron.

[@chrisbeecraft]

Typical human attitude, why should they remember something more practical, productive or positive when they can remember war and loss of life and cover up all the treaties they broke. Ghandi, Mother Teresa, Berlin Airlift, Live Aid are just a few instances where humanity has shone without the death of others.

[@hairydogstail]

Remember the Alamo

[@antoniocarrizales5812]

San Jacinto..., it's pronounced San -HA cinto

[@mikesalmon7865]

YOU MUST NOT BE A TEXAN BECAUSE THATS THE WAY "WE " SAY IT WHEN YOUR IN ROME DO AS THE ROMANS DO ALSO EVEN MORE WHEN YOU ARE FROM TEXAS SAY IT LIKE WE SAY IT THANKS FROM A NATIVE TEXAN. A NATIVE TEXAN IF YOU PRONOUNCED SAN HA CINTO WOULD LOOK AT YOU AND SAY WHERE THE HELL IS HE FROM ANOTHER WOULD SAY SOUNDS LIKE NEW YORK GET A ROPE. LOL JUST A JOKE DONT GET ALL BENT AND JOCKED UP.

[@oa6671]

Same thing happens with Texas pronounced "Te -Has" that is the right way

[@Vazcular]

@@oa6671 It would be spelled Tejas then! This is American English, not Spanish.

[@tinsote7176]

@@Vazcular Texas can still be spelled this way and pronounced TE-HAS. Just like Mexico still has an x in it in Spanish.

[@rogercortez2509]

@@tinsote7176 Vazcular O A, Mike Salmon, Antonio Carrizales.....no H sound in the word Jacinto....the J does not sound like an H therefore the J is silent. Jacinto=acinto.....guys for keeripes sake go to school!

[@bobgall6764]

REMEMBER THE RAISIN! 1813

[@joeduda6330]

And I'm comment 366

[@matthewstavrowsky9998]

Well done!

[@luisthekingjaime94]

Today

[@Skyhors3]

Most of the Texans only stayed because stubborn Travis was not going to leave, even if he was the only one. Then he got killed right away, after it was too late to leave.

[@markbelmares7138]

The Siege story is stirring and idealistic, but no more than that, forgotten are the sons of Tejano families like Gregorio Esparza who died alongside Crockett and Travis but we're never given recognition.

[@positiveecho326]

They’re not forgotten. They’re are listed among the fallen at the Alamo. I do agree, however, Tejanos should get more recognition for their involvement beyond De Zavala and Seguin. It makes me angry how the Tejanos are overlooked or dismissed completely because of negligence or agenda.

[@mikeweber9766]

Brave men no doubt. A group of American leaders in Texas wanted freedom from Mexico so they could use slaves for agriculture. Mostly cotton and slavery was not permissible in Mexico. Again, brave men and not all necessarily opinionated one way or the other about slavery or even knew what it was about. Like most wars I suppose.

[@RD-pj9el]

very romanticized, that region was already full of anglos who wouldn't abide by the no slavery rules as Mexico had already banned it. They saw an opportunity of annexation to the U.S and so the battles and disagreements began.

[@michaelzann9589]

Almost half of the defenders were Hispanic. Also Santa Anna was putting down Rebellions in at least 2 other states. Slavery???

[@thecensoredmuscle563]

1) most Texans didn't have slaves, almost all of them couldn't afford slaves. 2) Santa Anna was a dictator who was acting as a dictator. He was specifically over taxing, he would change laws without telling anglos so that when the law were broken they can arrest them. He would make agreements then break them. The angles purpose of joining Texas in mexico was to help Mexico. Stephen f Austin like his dad Moses Austin, spent their life trying to help Mexico succeed and become a great nation. Santa Anna arrested Stephen f Austin who was going to meet with him, and that was pretty much the last straw. Also Texas was not the only part of Mexico that revolted during Santa Annas time. They were just the only ones who succeeded and gained their independence. Just an fyi, alot of Hispanics fought for Texas.

[@msjoanofthearc]

LIBERTY Forever...REMEMBER THE ALAMO!

[@robertdiaz927]

Where's the basement

[@rictherealtor]

Texicanos.., Texicans.., Tejanos..,

[@kevinfernandez4531]

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[@rogerborroel4707]

It was exactly 186 years ago that the rebel fortress Alamo fell to federalist Mexican troops. Most of the Alamo defenders were armed illegal aliens from the States. It was a GREAT Mexican victory, and it's nice to see all Texas celebrate a Mexican victory for all time!

[@jimsolmer1292]

Then a month later the Mexicans got absolutely whipped by the Texans in just 18 minutes. Santa Ana representing the entire Mexican country bent the knee to Texas and gave up. He also didnt pick up or bury his dead soldiers. He left them there to rot. Mexico is absolutely a great military force lol

[@rogerborroel4707]

@@jimsolmer1292 The Mexican Army NEVER go whipped by Houston's gang of illegal aliens from the States. What was defeated was the Mexican vanguard of the army. Over three thousand Mexican troops were STILL in Texas at Old Fort, 40 miles away! The Mexican Army NEVER bend the knee, for it was ordered back to Matamoros by General Filisola, a lacky of Santa Anna. The Mexicans still won the war, for there are 40 MILLION in the US! Duh!

[@milannovak8372]

U bonehead.

[@rogerborroel4707]

@@milannovak8372 You DOUBLE bonehead & JERK too.

[@davidsconnelly2613]

"Remember the Alamo!" 1836 "Let's go Brandon!" 2021

[@milannovak8372]

Support tRump the traitor.

[@davidsconnelly2613]

@@milannovak8372 wow... You put a capital R in his name! How fucking original!

[@milannovak8372]

@@davidsconnelly2613 THANK YOU

[@TexasTrails]

Davy Crockett did not die in the Alamo. He surrendered along w his men. The battle lasted 40 minutes. What these brave Mexican soldiers accomplished by attacking in the open, making their way to the walls of the Alamo under heavy rifle and cannon fire and defeating the cowards that hid behind towering walls was nothing less than heroic. May God bless all soldiers that fought and died for their country.

[@janefelix3821]

Why are they so brave, it is more foolishness by Santa Anna ordering them to attack against fixed positions. The Texans were cowards for hiding behind walls, that had been military strategy for over 3,000 years. The Mexicans also attacked at night, thus taking away the firepower of the Texans as they can't shoot what they can't see, it was dark and night vision did not exist for another century.

[@targfu]

brave mexes surrendered like cowards at san jacinto.got cut down anyway remembered alama

[@constantine7382]

@@janefelix3821 You are CLEARLY are an idiot when it comes to war.

[@constantine7382]

That is only one version. A Mexican soldier reported that he found Crockett's body with no less than 16 Mexicans in very close proximity, one with Crockett's knife buried in his chest. The soldier was in the battle. So it depends on which version you prefer.

[@robm9460]

Cowards? Are you nuts?

[@truthspeaker1074]

Factoid: When news of the fall of the Alamo reached the northern states, the response was largely, "they had it coming, as they would have created another slave state. Basically, no sympathy.

[@edmonddantes3640]

Your factoid is pure PC Bravo Sierra, many Americans supported the Texas cause, the City of Cinncinati sent a pair of cannons, that were called the Twin Sisters, they were used at the battle of San Jacinto. Slavery had very little to do with why Texians revolted but that's all that virtue signaling revisionists like you know.

[@truthspeaker1074]

​The Americans that migrated to the Mexican territory were only allowed to be there and own land, only if they swore loyalty to Mexico, not own slaves AND were Catholic, of which, many just lied to get land and many that moved there were on the side of America and people like Samuel Houston, were in agreement with Andrew Jackson, that Americans needed to spread west. When news of the death of the Alamo defenders, Northerners weren't sympathetic, as many knew that it would just eventually become another slave state. In 1845, the government policy was "Manifest Destiny," that God chose the white man to spread Christianity throughout the continent. In so acclaiming the government claimed that Mexico reneged on its debts and invaded, with the true intent of capturing all territory north of the Rio Grande. It's an old book, but if you can find the "Duel of Eagles," it is what I consider the most in depth examination of the issues leading up to the conflict.

[@UkonJohnNord]

Its hilarious that this bozo 's user name is "Truth Speaker" and he keeps making up false history.

[@jerzybala8339]

Am being sarcastic

[@marthagomez7335]

My father owned some fenced off land in California, there was nothing on it but an old wooden shack. A homeless man approached my dad and convinced him that it would be a good idea to let him live there and he would take care of his land for him. My dad being a good guy agreed. My dad unlocked the gate for him.He took care of his land alright! Three months later when my father returned to his land he discovered that the homeless man had established a community there and had all of his friends living there now. He told my father that it was their place now and he was not wanted there just before they physically attacked him. My father was able to kick them off his property, thank God! It occurred to me that this is exactly how the Texans who weren’t even from Tejas took Tejas. Exactly the same thing! I hated those homeless people for what they did and I hate Texas for the same reason.

[@positiveecho326]

That’s a bull shit revisionist history if I ever heard it. 1. Mexico wanted the Americans and Europeans to come in so they could essentially act as a meat wall between themselves and the Native Americans. You know the people who the Spanish and Mexicans took the land from in the first place. 2. The Texians and Tejanos weren’t squatters they were immigrants and settlers invited and encouraged by being given special incentives by the Mexican Govt. to settle the area. 3. Texians weren’t the only ones rebelling against Santa Anna who scrapped the Mexican Constitution and set himself up as dictator. Tejanos and Mexicans from other states were also rebelling against Santa Anna and getting slaughtered as well. 4. The Texians and Tejanos didn’t originally want to separate from Mexico. The Texians and Tejanos drafted resolutions in the Convention of 1833 and elected Juan Seguin and Stephen F. Austin to present them to Santa Anna. They wanted to be a separate state from Coahuila. 5. Many of the Tejanos who fought for Texas against Mexico were not only Mexican citizens but also former Mexican politicians and military. Lorenzo de Zavala even helped draft the Mexican Constitution of 1824. NOT SQUATTERS!!! 6. Some of the Native Americans either helped the Texians or agreed not to side with Mexico. You know the people who helped Spain steal their land and then imported a bunch of immigrants to not only hold it but to keep them from feeling the repercussions. 7. Most Texians actually supported Santa Anna’s presidency initially seeing as how he promised to uphold the 1824 constitution. 8. Most immigrants, who were there legally had every intention of becoming good law abiding Mexican citizens and were. If Santa Anna hadn’t been a notorious opportunistic flip flopper, set himself up as dictator, scrapped the 1824 constitution, and started slaughtering his own citizens maybe he wouldn’t have lost Texas. Maybe Mexicans wouldn’t have dug up his severed leg that he buried in damn crystal coffin, drug it through the streets yelling “death to the cripple.” Maybe you should actually read a book, like I did, a Texas history book written by a Tejano.

[@marthagomez7335]

The Tejanos were not squatters, the texians who weren’t even from Tejas were squatters!. The Tejanos who had to help the invader texians fight against Mexico were under threat of execution if they didn’t. Fight or get killed.

[@marthagomez7335]

Ask a Tejano how much of land was stolen from their family by force and deception by the greedy texians. Mexican Tejanos were land owners who became pions to foreigners who stole all they could! Same thing happened in Alta California. Why would Mexican Californios and Tejanos support land thieves of their lands and slave owners??? Karma is finally coming tho. Look what they did to Hawaii. They lowered the Hawaiian flag and put their’s up and flat out stole it. The same pattern. Every thing they see , they want. Maybe the native Americans should have just let the first ones starve and freeze.

[@marthagomez7335]

I won’t read a book written by some pendejo and believe him. My great, great grandfather was there, he had land taken from him, he’s all the book I will ever need. His life experience passed down through the generations.. They left Tejas in disgust.

[@positiveecho326]

@@marthagomez7335 Lol. The shear idea that a person who proudly engages in willful ignorance, creates fallacious arguments, compares immigrants to squatters, and pretends that there’s some good guy bad guy dichotomy while siding with the government who used said immigrants to protect themselves from the indigenous people they stole land from has any room to call anybody else stupid and contemptful is inane. Lol. “I don’t need to read” is not the slam dunk argument you think it is.

[@markbaker1913]

Wrong facts

[@majcorbin]

SANTA ANNA SHOULD HAVE HAD A MEXICAN BAYONET DRIVEN up HIS BACKSIDE

[@eking120]

ESTA USA frontier new horizon pour Les Gazaettes

[@SeanRios-f6b]

sigma

[@despann7644]

¡Viva Mexico!

[@hairydogstail]

Getting their asses handed to them and never being able to run a nation without it being a sh@t hole that their own people try to escape from by going north into the best land created by gringos LOL...

[@Horologist-zu5vq]

VIVA MEXICO!🇲🇽.......Oh wait wrong vid...🤣

[@armandrodriguez8501]

May be getting close to the time when it will be necessary to reinstitute your independence.

[@ellicenciadonacoquesecomel3381]

Pirates and filibusters just... They had dog life and died as such

[@constantine7382]

And Santa anna surrendered and died, years later, a cowards death.

[@milannovak8372]

U bonehead

[@marthagomez7335]

@@constantine7382 bullshit and you know it! Santanna was much braver than Houston the falling down drunk coward!

[@constantine7382]

@@marthagomez7335 Factually and historically accurate. If you can't handle it, not my problem.

[@marthagomez7335]

@@constantine7382 Texas is being invaded now

[@WORRO]

Another reason to remember The 2nd Amendment.

[@tinsote7176]

WORRO01 I’m a Second Amendment backer, but this was a battle to simply split from Mexico because of Santa Anna disregarding the 1824 Mexican Constitution that made federal and state governments share power. Santa Anna was a Centralist and wanted to take away state rights.

[@rogercortez2509]

@@tinsote7176 Hey Tinsote go to school man!

[@tinsote7176]

@@rogercortez2509 What did I say was incorrect?

[@robertbutler1957]

Don't forget to remind everyone that the Battle of the Alamo was fought over slavery because Texas which was Mexico at that time was a free country.

[@darenkelly1386]

The Alamo colonial defenders were also defending their desire to bring more slaves ( beyond the number the colonials brought with them) into the Mexican province of Tejas. Santa Ana forbade it...Lest we forget.

[@duncanidaho2097]

Forget what? Mejico has made a hash out of their country and lives under command of the drug cartels.

[@lnm7276]

@@duncanidaho2097Escutche boilla (White bread) Duncan Idaho. If Santa Anna had won texas San Antonio would be a a real shit hole like Reynosa.

[@tinsote7176]

Most defenders didn’t have any slaves at all.

[@lnm7276]

Darren Kelly. No they were not defending their desire to bring in more slaves. Their desire was to have a home, land, raise a family, farm the soil. Just like you would do when given an opportunity to better your life.

[@rogercortez2509]

@@lnm7276 NOW, this is the truth! The defenders were poor conscripts who were sold a bill of goods by promising them land...none of them were trained in any type of warfare....they had dreams and desires to cash in. Not to be! They were duped. Poor 'stards!

[@rogercortez2509]

What a bunch of nonsense! Willliam Travis was a young officer who didn't know much about his command. He committed suicide when he was overwhelmed by the Mexican Army. David Crockett along with approximately 65 men were making an attempt at escape when Crockett was captured and brought before Santa Ana and executed. Crockett told an Arkansas reporter that he would deliver Santa Ana's head to Washington soon. (karma's a bitch). Crockett owned 6 slaves although he was somewhat against slavery. It was for that reason he was voted out of congress by slave owners. He then had ulterior motives, in that,should Texas become a stand alone Republic he wanted to become its president. Travis had eyes for the same reason. As far as Houston ("The Big Drunk" as the Cherokees called him) was concerned instead of reinforcing the Alamo he did nothing simply because of his disdain for Travis who had political notions. He loved opium and was big on alcohol hence, The Big Drunk! In San Jacinto, he was flat drunk and high that a Lieutenant of him army took over to defeat Santa Ana. Approximately 300 Mexican soldiers were lost in the battle of the Alamo not because of the defenders but mostly because they were shot by friendly fire. Note that the defenders of the Alamo were not trained soldiers. They were untrained conscripts and settlers looking for land to plant their roots. They were easily accommodated by being promised acreage and money to fight, that is of course, if they survived. What is concerning are the myths behind the Alamo composed by white historians to soothe the conscience of the "Texians" of sort. Why would any self-respecting white man want to "Remember the Alamo" when the true history of the Alamo is hidden from them. What is amazing is the propaganda spewed today and still absorbed by racists as fact. The Alamo being of no strategic value and the ensuing mistakes made by the powers that were was the cause of its demise. There is more to this story that should be considered in discussing, debating and arguing it. Those who are dead set in their beliefs of the myths surrounding the Alamo are encouraged to do their research to set the record straight for themselves with this historical event.

[@danielblackburn1241]

You have alot to say for yourself ! You must of been living in 1836 and witnessed so many events in the history of this time

[@jeffadams9807]

They Took The Alamo & We Took: Texas, Arizona, New Mexico & California...

[@simonsimon8572]

Mexico just defending Their Country

[@targfu]

haha how did that work out 4 them.lost texas

[@hairydogstail]

They took from the Indians and the Spanish lol..

[@steveoliver5251]

Why I love Texas #386542

[@jacklincoln7786]

ILLINOIS MEXICANS FOR TRUMP 2020

[@milannovak8372]

Illinois Nazis supported him also.

[@frankpesco7723]

All about expanding slavery.

[@javiercr5671]

Relax friends, we are recovering what by ancestral right is ours. Everything always returns to its owner.

[@hairydogstail]

So the first nation people will end up with it LOL???

[@SKY-jv9ue]

The first big lie is that Travis drew a line in the sand, no proof of that, it's all myth. There were 253 Alamo defenders, over 100 of them tried to escape the battle by running out of the east side of the Alamo compound. They were killed in moments by Gen. Sesma's lancers. Travis committed suicide at the north wall, Crockett surrendered to the Mexicans, and was executed moments later, and Bowie died in his bed under his bed covers- some heroes! There needs to be a Monument in Alamo plaza for the 60 Mexican soldiers who died for their country, resisting illegal alien invaders from the states. they were just doing their duty!

[@martymarine1608]

You are one ignorant uneducated POS.

[@SKY-jv9ue]

IF you believe all those unfounded Alamo stories, lies and legends, your one ignorant uneducated POS!

[@SKY-jv9ue]

I'm stating facts not fantasy like you all love to do about the battle. Sabe? Texian propaganda started the mement the battle was over with lies and fables, that you love so much; so cry me a river: the truth hurts don't it?

[@SKY-jv9ue]

Right.

[@SKY-jv9ue]

You are correct, you have deep thinking son!

[@SKY-jv9ue]

The Mexican army was NEVER defeated by that armed grou of illegal aliens from the states. Only the army's vanguard was defeated, a force of 1200 men. They were ambush, hence, Houston's gang had the upper hand! That event is now called by everyone, the San Jacinto Massacre.

[@readsmith4223]

And a few years later Mexico City didn't fall to America either right. America owned Mexico and gave it back to you idiots so it could become one of the worst lead and corrupt piece of shit country's in the world. And Mexicans have been running away from their home to America ever since. We should have kept Mexica and made it GREAT instead of the JOKE it is today...

[@mikeparmer7237]

lost texas haha

[@mikeparmer7237]

@@readsmith4223 at san jac mexs ran like rabbits thru swamp

[@Elitecommando501]

@@readsmith4223 Mexicans aren't moving to America anymore you need to update yourself LOL. It's the most powerful country in Latin America buddy. 11th in the world. Anglo ignorance at its finest.

[@SKY-jv9ue]

@@readsmith4223 Sounds like your taking about today's America...nice going chap!

[@SKY-jv9ue]

Crockett surrendered to the Mexican soldiery, only to be executed moments later. Travis committed suicide at the north wall, when he saw all was lost. Bowie was hiding under his bed covers, and died there. Some heroic trinity! It's nice to see all Texas celebrate a MEXICAN victory at the Alamo every year, makes me proud!

[@ronnietravis7972]

Roger Borroel Hello Roger. Never heard it explained that way before, and I don’t think they would have stayed there behind those walls that long just to hide under covers and kill themselves, plus Travis was to ornery to do that. They knew they were out numbered big time.What I don’t understand is that in 1835- 1836 America was still very young, why they wanted to go west like from Tennessee and Kentucky blows my mind,they had what they needed right there. I’m 33 miles from David Crockett’s 2nd home place and have been there 4 times. Still beautiful with rolling hills and lots of undeveloped land, but I guess they had to go.

[@SKY-jv9ue]

They were NOT out numbered big time: 1,400 Mexican troops against 253 well protected defenders, behind FIVE foot walls. And they still lost! Ronnie, they left Tn. & Ky., because the land there was not cheap, and Mexican land was!

[@ronnietravis7972]

Roger Borroel Hello again. Over the years I’ve heard so many different accounts of how many were in the Mexican Army. Just saying. I’m 57 and heard things that was up to 4000 troops even going back to The school days. I keep a open mind on things like this, and I’m interested in your thoughts on this. Some years ago I seen on a History Channel about how fast the Mexican Army covered lots of ground in the winter time, the Archaeologist found uniform buttons, bullets ,etc. It’s been about 10 years since I seen that.Where do you get all your info from? Keep talking to me, I want to here what you know.

[@SKY-jv9ue]

At the time of the battle, there were only 2,300 troops in the town, and only 1,400 were used in the attack. The rest of the army came AFTER the battle!

[@ronnietravis7972]

Roger Borroel How And where are you getting your info from?