The Sims Biggest Villains

The Alto family deserved a makeover and revival in The Sims 4, they were too iconic! I also brought their lore back with the Langraab's and other townies in my full vid

[@uwuCaleism]

Yall she mentioned that holly exists in the pack 😂

[@alexandrarusu1312]

They could of made a lot more lore with the Alto family . They should've made them enemies because maybe Johnny Zest ( the disowned and hated son) had a relationship with Holly Alto and none of their families approved thus disowning them

[@MilkTeaMayhem]

Johnny Zest actually got together with Holly Alto in my save from neighborhood stories it was so cute

[@KTB-cm05]

In my game, Johnny is Nancy and Nick's secret love child. Geoffrey thinks he is his.

[@MilkTeaMayhem]

@@KTB-cm05 🫢 Now THAT’S tea

[@Boblin-And-Sushi]

ROMEO AND JULIETTE

[@xx44661]

Actually this would not add up considering the timeline. In the sims 3 Bella and Morthimer are children and Holly is a teen which would mean that in the Sims 4 Holly would either be an adult or elder.

[@Slothian-ry3hf]

Ah! So THIS is why there are Alto apartments in San Myschuno 😮 I knew about the Landgraab ones but this is so cool

[@user-bp4ve5io9p]

i was gonna say thee was some alto thing in ims

[@ShiggyNiggy]

In my Sims 3 game, Nick and Nancy had an affair and had a baby. It was a whole scandal. 😭😭

[@Gummikin]

Say what?! Who's the baby? 😮

[@MYVOICESHALLBEHEARD]

@@Gummikin Johnny Zest maybe?

[@Gummikin]

@@MYVOICESHALLBEHEARD Oh snap! Maybe that's the secret that got him kicked off to the trailer?! 🤔🫣

[@Greenballoffire]

​@@MYVOICESHALLBEHEARD woah, Johnny Zest!?!?! How come??

[@krwrie]

Get Famous brought other iconic sims from previous games like Dustin Broke, as celebrities. Although, like you said, I don't consider them to be the cannon ones. They're more like "actors" who'll play as them, as fitting for the expansion pack's theme💀

[@Jaz_Sims]

Definitely! I remade Dustin and Dirk in my Pleasant family makeover bc they did them so dirty

[@hfjireh]

this just further proves how behind the sims 4 is in terms of being filled with lore as compared to the other sims games

[@leejay-zd8zj]

it’s not canon to the lore, it’s an alternate timeline

[@RJWorrell]

The name Alto always reminded me of the “Sopranos”. I never looked up the reasoning of putting the Alto family in Sims 3. But I know the sims like play on words.

[@marmaduke5207]

I think I’ve read about this somewhere. Holly is supposedly a rip on Meadow Soprano.

[@gabriellaberman]

I was going to say that they reminded me of Tony, Carmela and Meadow!

[@uramakisalmone]

the sims 3 is the best sims game, and nobody can change my mind

[@ZekeBittersweet]

I rarely see this take (because TheSims2 is also so good and very lore dense) but Sims 3 will always be my favourite game ❤

[@-VoDkAsVengeance-]

Their daughter being the complete opposite of them is actually pretty realistic. A majority of people will have some major trait about themselves (the way they manage their schedule, their worldview, etc.) that's opposite to how they were raised. The human mind likes stability and familiarity, but it also hates being stuck in one constant state. When you've spent 18+ years living under someone else's rule, you're bound to deviate at least a little once you have rule over yourself.

[@amathystonline6925]

I'm pretty sure the Alto family also run the water facilities, if you go without paying your bills it will eventaully mention Alto (If I'm remembering correctly)

[@andrewczazasty9222]

So many good memories playing as the Altos in the sims 3. Idc, they’re the main characters to me.

[@staticrainbow3409]

The way that if I played the sims and nick existed, I’d play at least one world to attempt to home wreck out of curiosity

[@goldensentinel7715]

There's a crazy theory that Holly isn't their kid. Like they just took her from the Landgrabs, both to hurt them, and to have an heir.

[@highspeedsuicide]

It’s because the landgrabs won the monopoly and ran them out of the country entirely

[@sleex91s]

@@adrienhorrell5612actually the sims 4 is set in an alternate universe

[@pandapotatoess4538]

@@adrienhorrell5612the sims 3 is the earliest timeline. It goes sims 3 , sims 1, then sims 2 I believe. I think sims 1 goes before 2, because Bella hasn’t disappeared yet. And 3 is the confirmed start, because Bella and Mortimer are both kids in Sunset Valley; along with some other interesting characters. I personally love playing with the Crumple-bottom household, her backstory is tragic and I like giving that sim the life she seemingly hasn’t had lol 😂

[@ThePinkRubber]

​@@adrienhorrell5612sims 4 broke off the continuity so it's probably different timeline

[@clarebo]

Are they on the Sims 4 gallery? I loved your longer video with all the lore!

[@Jaz_Sims]

Thank you so much! 🥰 Yes they are, gallery ID Jazissimming 😊

[@clarebo]

@@Jaz_Sims yay! Thank you!

[@aleebee5911]

I remember looking around for the altos when It first released

[@kittygomeowmeow773]

Holly Alto should have been put in horse ranch or Henford-on-bagley, to get away as far as possible from her family and rejects their mom's & dad's lavish lifestyle

[@Brownskinned_girl]

I was about to ask that you make a series retreating long lost sims characters 😂

[@notmn8210]

holly alto is in the sims 4 as a celebrity

[@lazymirae751]

And the altos have apartments in city living

[@MYVOICESHALLBEHEARD]

What pack does Holly Alto come with?

[@lazymirae751]

@@MYVOICESHALLBEHEARD holly alto came in get famous but they brought the alto apartments in city living

[@blackcats_and_coffee7972]

she said that in the video.

[@herowither12354]

Well, that doesn't count when the concept of people changing over time makes you pissy.

[@erinhartley857]

Honestly the sims 3 lore is some of the best

[@ashleyramirez2747]

They were my favourite household from the sims 3!! Love love love how you recreate them and how you updated Holly ❤❤

[@Jaz_Sims]

Yaay! Thank you 🥺

[@ashleyramirez2747]

@@Jaz_Sims 🥰🥰🥰

[@greyscaleanon7551]

Just a reminder that there were multiple versions of Holly Alto before Sims 4 and the Sims 4 one appears to be a mashup of them. Every Sims game except Sims 4 has had different lineups of premade characters and storylines for the console versions.

[@user-qd6md6hu5r]

What about the alto apartments in San myshuno?

[@linksbetweendrinks7032]

I was just wondering that. Maybe it's just a nod? Like how Candy Behr is DJ Candy Supergroove but her sister Yuki is just a reference to MySims Yuki.

[@OutlyingOkapi]

Holly Alto in the sims 4 really resembles her mum in the sims 3 tbh

[@Bbate]

I did the same! As well as adding mimi landgrab and dudley. Made sure holly alto was friends with all of the landgrabs too

[@Remmeister2000]

Holly Alto is also in Sims 4 get famous 😮 I run into her a lot because my Sim is a global superstar

[@Greenballoffire]

Ugh seems like such a fun pack!!

[@Remmeister2000]

@@Greenballoffire it is but it's also a pain cause you gotta keep doing stuff to keep your fame up otherwise it will fade and you fall out of the spotlight, which is why I'm completing the lifetime achievement so it never does

[@BBB-to4cc]

I literally just understood the last name Landgrab wow

[@rainbowlolipopslovers]

Sometimes I think that sims 4 isn't a alternate universe but in between sims 1 and sims 2 where everything is okay for everyone atm, the landgrabbs left sunset valley to have a monopoly in the sims 4 universe, bella and mortimer goth had Alexander goth and were happy before the unfortunate bella goes missing tragedy. That's the story I think about because itd make sense, when did bella have Alexander? Why did he randomly just pop up in sims 2? I think bella went missing the year Alexander turned into a child sim, which is why Alexander is still a child. Am I right in thinking this? The sims 4 is a part in the story that everything is peaceful before the storm of the sims 2

[@moondriedtomato]

They don't want to insult eas ceo

[@fllowerknight]

I played the Alto family all the time! Since i hated the Landgraabs and I liked how Holly is the opposite. 😂 i almost forgot about them having not played it in like 5 years.. Holly Alto in the Sims I completely ignored too 😅

[@Sara_Raney]

Awww my sim got hollys autograph and she passed shortly after....picture sits above his bed

[@pandapotatoess4538]

I love this household, because I don’t even try to befriend them but somehow the male sim in my household always befriends (Nick? I think that’s his name) and his wife; Vita. I have a head cannon that the Altos are intentionally befriending my sims because I end up buying most the real estate in town lol 😂 they schmoozing

[@CamtheWolfGamer]

I think Captain Sauce got inspired by them for his "Evil" Kevin Sauce

[@graceelizabetha]

My last name is Alto. Since I only played the sims 4 and didn’t know the lore at the time I was so confused when my sim (named after myself) in get famous met holly alto.

[@blueskythefox1594]

Didn't The Sims 4 take place in the alternative universe? Obviously the lore won't be canon to others games, i mean in the game Bella Goth was still with her family and you can play as her even though in The Sims 2 she wasn't with the family as she went missing obviously.

[@neosphere9248]

I'm actually doing a save right now with my recreation holly alto in TS4 because I really like that family

[@beanpastee_3425]

Holly Alto is so iconic

[@user-tq1ti4jq6i]

I cannot unsee that Nick looks like... You know.

[@Jaz_Sims]

Like Wario? 😂

[@gabriellaberman]

my theory is that they’re meant to be a parody of The Soprano family and the Sims 4 Get Famous Holly looks like Meadow Soprano. she’s got the whole Jersey vibe

[@c3l3st1alg0bl1n]

holly alto is in ts4 get famous i believe!

[@zoommiesbay]

Yeah but not in the same way. Its more like a call back than the actual character

[@starling_944]

Yeah my sim married her 3 generations ago! Tho I agree she might just be a reference

[@itsthisgalrighthere2843]

I tried to get Nick to date me until he was like no I’m married and then I was like oops! Haha

[@linksbetweendrinks7032]

Oh yeah! I wondered what happened to Holly Alto. Something about the teen Sims I made in TS3 always had them dating her.

[@Iris_Fleurish]

I really love tell the backstory of the sims character. Thanks you

[@MadivDam]

In my most recent sims 3 save Holly turned out to be a criminal as an young adult, strange how things work out🤨😂

[@buczakrequinwilliam7831]

I LOVED THEM I PLAYED WITH THE EVERYTIME I WAS SO SAD WHEN I COULDNT FIND THEM IN SIMS 4

[@johncunanan65]

The perfect cast for a Romeo and Juliet DLC (like the Strangervile). Like Romeo is already there (Langrabs) and just need a Juliet (Alto)

[@Jaz_Sims]

Holly Alto is the Juliet 😌 She's a bit older than him but with a bit of timeline fixing that can be done!

[@Saboteur4]

This is why you make them in the Sims 4 and use the basemental drugs and gangs mods

[@Ghost_GodPlayss]

the alto family reminds me of the Vasquez family

[@bobakendall6759]

Well its now up to me to add them to my file cause I love the drama

[@roadkill0302]

omg one of my sims dated Holly!! I didn’t really understand how to see family trees when I played so when I finally saw the house she lived in I was like ???? why is my gf LOADED lmao

[@Woo-ya]

i never play sims 3 but they looks cool

[@GRIZZZLIE70]

I remember accidentally romancing Holly

[@joliegunn2270]

Give me buddy from my Sims. For the next character you create, please.

[@Ambipie]

Can you make an evil version of Liberty Lee my sims 4 liberty lee is so cantankerous and a bad neighbor that im breeding a cow plant to get revenge on her

[@cocopuff5919]

I need to get sims 3

[@dfreeman13]

We need more Alto family.

[@EvaIdk__Romania]

About the Holly in ts4, there's also a celebrity named Dustin Broke (yk, like Brandi's eldest?) But it's not the same Dustin in ts2, so I don't think it's the same Holly from ts3

[@hollyoakley7643]

Lol my name is holly and my dad is called nick. This is accurate

[@spontaneous_kat]

I love this so much!! Well done!!

[@Jaz_Sims]

thank you 🤗

[@chowpurapura9948]

But theres alto family member in san myshuno she is a star/celeb

[@Tvhiti]

I used to marry Holly to my ‘son’ sims to get her away from her family :( when I saw the sims 4 version I was like ‘WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY GIRL!’

[@peculiarnugget]

i thought it was because they got beat out by the landgarbs

[@kayland.5724]

Totally downloading them!

[@kindahothotness7264]

Gosh, remember when sims townies actually had relationship bars with people outside of their household?

[@hfjireh]

didn’t realize it’s a luxury back then

[@daydreamc5079]

There's a celebrity alto

[@jessimarim_m9387]

Did- did the Laandgrabs "wack" the Altos 🧐

[@Jaz_Sims]

The Sims official tiktok account left a very sus comment actually about that 😂 they said "maybe they're swimming with the fishies" which is another way of saying maybe they're unalived 💀

[@jessimarim_m9387]

@@Jaz_Sims cheeky buggers... but I do love that, especially cause of the timeline sims 3 is before sims 1 and 2, so clearly they got away with it!

[@Gumbier_Than]

Too bad we couldn't settle it like we did in Grand Theft Auto: tear down their businesses, take over the brackets, blame each other until the tide of power tips..😂

[@Skyejessica02]

Sims 3 ds im sure the alto are black too😂 there is a holly alto with a don alto

[@ambientexperience5793]

They seem like Matilda’s family 😂

[@nerdychocobo]

In my sims 3 game the altos always break up xD

[@BrookeTorres95]

Isn't the Sims 4 considered to be a completely different timeline though? And the Sims 3 takes place before Sims 1 & 2 in the timeline.

[@Jaz_Sims]

Supposedly, I don't like that though personally and want to bring back the familiarity and lore of previous games because it was too good! Not copy the older games or anything just bring back some iconic families along with sims 4 originals

[@BrookeTorres95]

@@Jaz_Sims The lore and storytelling was better in the first three games!

[@luisgerbit3322]

It’s funny to see how EA denied the original lore but when it comes to sell those buggy-glitched-*ss stuff packs they will include anything 😂 they still got me buying everything tho 😪

[@credenzabelladonna-fatale2487]

Neat! I tried 4 for a second but am right back to 2, now and forever. If this Vita wants to be leader of the free world, is she a riff on Eva Perón? Stupid q, but I still live in TS2, so.

[@mayakyen3695]

I never paid attention to this family. Interesting lol

[@Mr_C.Bacteria]

You look like a real life Holly 😊

[@johanventer9673]

I made live to nik and got preggie❤ even tho he was married

[@OpheliaFantasy]

Sims 4's Holly Alto should be sued for identity theft

[@Ambipie]

They own the Valley but not out in the sims 4 areas

[@user-tg9ep4qc8b]

Yes!!

[@Anonymous-mp5mt]

I think they put holly alto as a npc celebrity probably as a nod to the Sims 3 holly but didn’t make her look like her just the name only.

[@b00nz0r]

The Sims might have actually targeted some politician because there was a story like this in America where the daughter wouldn’t stop spilling secrets on TikTok 😂 made her have to leave work to find out she couldn’t do anything. Sweet justice 😅

[@FallenAngel7538]

I remember I really liked Nick Because #Daddy

[@Ldybxga]

Not very known but holly alto is seen in the sims 3 DS as grown married to her husband and they are both dark skin instead of white as a ghost lmao, the DS and wii games shouldnt be taken as canon, but just interesting!

[@Talkative280]

I’m ngl it’s probably bc sims 4 sucks at lore and they couldn’t keep the storyline

[@SamNicholson1214]

Landgraab family probably did something 2 them but holly was able 2 escape the landgraabs furry

[@aprilapple00]

where did u get that sweater?! so cute

[@nachtschwaermermay3532]

No Holly Alto is in the game. I just saw her yesterday. She's part of the get famous pack as she is one of the famous people.

[@Jaz_Sims]

I said that in the videoooooo 🤡

[@Sailormercury_56]

I actually am playing this family I found them in the gallery and altered them to my liking, had no idea they were pre existing!

[@SimsStories2024]

Its because of the timeline

[@user-ul3jc6ge9y]

dunno why Landgraabs are everywhere, perhaps they killed Altos? only Holly Alto appears looking not Holly Alto like lol

[@teensithlord]

i mean holly alto is there shes one of the famous sims

[@Jaz_Sims]

bruh I said that in the video

[@panakinskywalker6391]

I also don't think get famous holly is the same one, since they don't really share anything but the name. She could potentially be related to the family though.

[@Jaz_Sims]

If that is true, WHY? 😂 Why is there a super annoying norm in TS4 of taking iconic recognisable sims from previous games, making them look completely different and sticking the same name on them? Isn't that super confusing for no reason? (ik it's an alternate timeline but for me that's not an excuse lol)

[@panakinskywalker6391]

@@Jaz_Sims my guess is that they wanted to pay homage to her but they could have much better given her a different first name and just made her a clear different relative instead of this confusion 😔

[@anonymous-ll4qm]

WAIT, THAT'S HOLLY ALTO FROM THE SIMS 3?! WHY DID I NOT MAKE THE CONECTION?? (the same thing happened with dirk dreamer and dustin broke because they look nothing like the originals and also their personality isn't accurate... why is the sims 4 always so disappointing)

[@missmaariah]

Wow the Sims 3 really did have more personality… 😢

[@PatriotfantalkV]

They in Sims 4 I think they in strangerVille or at least the daughter is

[@Jaz_Sims]

like i said in the video that you commented this on, holly is in city living.

[@TaliZorah1]

There is an alto in gMe but its only a young woman

[@keit99]

Given sims 4 is somewhat of an AU that holly is not canon. Afaik 3 was a prequel to 1 and 2 was the sequel to 1. And 4 is just an altogether different reality.

[@Jaz_Sims]

yeah I agree, I haate that the sims 4 basically took characters that we recognised and just changed them for the lols and changed any lore so it no longer made sense under pretence of a AU

[@keit99]

@@Jaz_Sims esp. Given it's AU status they could have made the Altos own sims 4's world basically. And maybe in that reality Agnes could've been happy. But no they gave us similar events but everybody is just entirely different.

[@s6r231]

Holly’s in the sims 4 though

[@Jaz_Sims]

looks like you didn't watch the whole video before assuming and commenting, can I ask why you did that? Genuinely don't understand why that is a thing

[@alicedeer6375]

This is interesting but off topic how are you so pretty???

[@taylorjohnson3965]

They went away bc the Sims team replaced them with the Landgraabs bc they needed a rich villain family and instead of choosing the rich villains from the sims 3 they picked the not as evil rich family from the Sims 3. Most Sims 4 adaptations of old Sims are unfaithful imo and in my saves I replace them with prior versions. I mean I get that they’re the official writers and all but come on. Secret agent Bella? Author Mortimer? The lore is losing the plot.