The sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald

[@MrDan708]

Since Capt. Cooper of the Anderson is now deceased as well, I would like to think he and Capt. McSorley are now relaxing comfortably in some sort of sailor's Valhalla, talking about better days...

[@davef6337]

That song immortalized this event because without it we probably wouldn’t remember it. I know it is what brought me an awareness of it . Fascinating too that no one was ever recovered.

[@xx-vq7pw]

Very informative report. I was on a aircraft carrier during a storm. Waves were breaking over the flight deck. The ship was rolling and bouncing around. As one walked through the hangar bay you could see the structure expanding and extracting. It was hairy being out there with no control over the sea.

[@roblessusan19]

Dude you have massive ones, I couldn't do it that's why I went to the Army..

[@elmerkemp5316]

Which Carrier? I spent a little time on the Midway and we had a pretty major storm.Med Cruise

[@johnshirley8099]

USS Ranger CVA 61. Sent from Gulf of Tonkin to the South China Sea during a monsoon right after North Korea shot down a Constellation, one of our spy planes. Our flight deck was 70 feet off the water and we were taking waves over the bow when the bow would dip down. Poor guys in the destroyer that always followed us. Talked to one of their crew members when we finally made it to port a month later. He said they were listing at 47 degrees in some of the waves. Scary!

[@alvankarpas6245]

Thank you for doing this. Incredibly informative. It also shows how Gordon Lightfoot's artistry interlaced meteorology and the technicalities of the incident into such a compelling story.

[@TheJonathanNewton]

Exactly, not only is the song haunting, it’s so factually accurate that it becomes impeccable. A true masterpiece indeed.

[@ChristieAdamsKangoo]

@@TheJonathanNewton Lightfoot has even changed the line "At seven pm, a main hatchway caved in" after one of the dives to the wreck confirmed all the hatches are still in place. The song is a masterpiece indeed.

[@doctorwhofan6340]

The church bell rang till it rang 29 times for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald! 🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶🎶🎵🎶🎵🎵🎶

[@tiagoalves2996]

It's chimed. Not rang

[@rwboa22]

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[@johnhurd6243]

@@tiagoalves2996 chimed and then rang

[@bobbyderen8913]

That has to be the best written weather/news stories that I've ever seen. Good Job!

[@blackwatersportfishing1814]

Very well done for sure!

[@northstar7501]

I was on the USS Midway around 85/86 and we hit a storm in the China Sea that had me a bit worried. They shut the flight deck down as waves were breaking over the bow. I have been on 2 carriers and ridden out a few few storms but this one was massive. The front of the ship would rise out of the water and dive which doesn’t happen often in my experience on carriers. Scariest part of the storm is every now and then we would be hit broadside with waves that would shake the ship. I was glad to see calm seas for sure.

[@tomthebomb557]

I had talked with a mariner who had sailed nearly every waterway in the world, and he said that he had never in his life seen waves like he experienced on the Great Lakes. He lamented that the reason is the rocky cliffs that surround many of the lakes reflect back the waves and ships sailing these areas will be forced to deal with rogue waves coming at you at three different angles twisting the hull and creating havoc. It is a horrifying experience to say the least, like being stirred in a soup pot.

[@jaimiesalid3141]

For some reason, I always think of the Ryme of the Ancient Mariner when I hear this song.

[@motorcityquig]

11/10/18. RIP The Big Fitz,. You will not be forgotten

[@o2boutdoors]

Given a few more minutes, the weather guy could have fit the entire lyrics of Gordon Lightfoot's song into his presentation.

[@willdwyer6782]

This video is 5:06. The song is 6:40.

[@thebeststoryteller5874]

@@willdwyer6782 yes but that is including the instrumental brakes

[@oliviamann556]

“The witch of November came stealing”

[@maj.d.sasterhikes9884]

Some years ago, I watch a documentary about the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald. They said when the ship hit the bottom of the lake, the bow plunged through the sand and struck bedrock. Hearing this I thought that such an impact should have been picked up by whatever seismographs are around the region and therefore it would be possible to pinpoint the exact moment of the sinking. I’ve always wondered if anyone has ever researched this information.

[@atomicwedgie8176]

Excellent hypothesis!

[@lotsofthisandthat9791]

Very astute point!

[@allenfields9058]

The damage to the bow along with the proximity of the broken stern and the iron ore debris field leads me to conclude, in my humble opinion, The Fitzgerald nosed down in a huge rogue wave and was driven to the lake bed where the force of impact split the ship, or she split before the bow hit bottom. She was 730 feet long and rests in 530 feet of water, so it is entirely plausible. With the ship's communications up front, that would explain the almost instantaneous loss of radio contact and radar contact with the Anderson's Captain Cooper saying "My gut feeling was I knew she was gone when I couldn't see her on the scope" as the Fitzgerald sailed into a snow squall. Just one of many theories. Tragic, no matter how you look at it. Rest In Peace.

[@dive4fr]

I agree she drove down I don't think she split as 200 ft of her shattered. She hit mud then bedrock and her middle shattered. if she split her stern would have traveled. However only God knows and we can all debate. I'm glad people at least remember.

[@insertnamehere313]

I agree and I never believe the hatch covers story,my teach when I was young made a wooden long skinny box filled with water and a freighter model added water and little fine pebble stonesto the model then was making waves the he made a handful of really big waves and the model when down bow hitting the bottom of the box and bumping the bottom and never recovered so if the box had a sand,clay and gravel bottom the ship would have dug in so I believe she hit bow first on the bottom and dug in and the 200+ft of the ship was in the air with the screw going and possibly the other two big waves pushed the 200+ft section forward snapping her in half and this would explain why the two halfs was so close to each other,imo.

[@GrumpyOldFart2]

@@insertnamehere313You’d be interested to know that later on in live concerts GL changed “at 7pm the main hatchway gave in” to “at 7pm it grew dark, he said then” because it upset him and the families that the very first cause they came to was the hatches weren’t closed properly (ie., it was the crews’ fault). While super high waves were hypothesized in the mid 60s, it wasn’t until 1995 that they had proof of rogue waves (cf. Draupner oil rig). Also, because “the hall” was a church, he changed “musty” to “rustic” because he thought “musty” was disrespectful.

[@insertnamehere313]

@@GrumpyOldFart2 I've seen Gordon Lightfoot live probably 15 times or so. I wasn't debating anything in the song tho and don't take what Gordon says in his song as fact..but I do think the song help shed light on the Fitz sinking. They found indeed it wasn't the hatches later on. Hell even Captain Cooper said no way it was the hatches leaking and if it was..it wasn't enough to sink the the Fitz.

[@GrumpyOldFart2]

@@insertnamehere313 There’s two other factoids that I think are “cute”. Even though the Fitz was headed to Detroit, GL used Cleveland because it better rhymed in the stanza (I think. My memory is a little fuzzy on that). Plus, while during back and forth radio transmissions, the Fitz Captain did tell Andersen of a few minor mishaps on the freighter (they lost some vents, and a…small railing(?)), they never radioed that they were “in peril”. The last transmission was “We are holding our own”. Then, just 10 minutes later the Fitz was just ….gone. This makes me think that yes, some sudden, overwhelming catastrophic event happened. It’s silly, but it’s one of the reasons (among other ones) why I won’t go on cruises. Now scientists know that rogue waves are NOT uncommon in the open ocean. Can you imagine seeing a wave as tall as your ship coming at you? Dumb reason I know, but at least I’m not afraid of flying. 😂 PS….yes, I love the storytelling of the song, too. As one of the KZbinrs I watch says, sometimes telling the FACTS gets in the way of showing the TRUTH.

[@privatenineNaturalWoman]

I was 8 yrs old living at the most southern point of the Michigan Triangle. I remember being sad hearing of the wreck and more so with the song by Gordon Lightfoot.

[@curtisunit]

That's a really well done segment. I can only begin to imagine what the families and friends must have been feeeling had they been watching this. I'm not even from the area and it's profoundly moving to me. Maybe because dad was a navy sonar man at sea for a long time.

[@gaelicwarrior5064]

Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours?

[@gaelicwarrior5064]

@M Detlef Have you never heard the song?

[@lotsofthisandthat9791]

Powerful phrase. RIP Men Of The Fitz.

[@mikegass2272]

the captain of the Anderson reported being hit by 2 large waves after clearing the lee side of caribou island @ approximately 7:00 p.m. they lost communication with the Fitz @ about 7:10. Fitz was listing badly & pumping water. never had s chance.

[@Torgo1969]

From looking at the map of Superior and taking into account the wind from the northwest, it looks like as the ship approached the safety of Whitefish Bay it was being subjected the the waves and wind with the longest fetch on the entire trip. Not a surprise then that there were rogue waves experienced by the Anderson and soon after by the Fitzgerald.

[@jeanielecount8552]

He took” the skis of November turn gloomy”

[@MrLuckytrucker21]

Former fritz men said that she flexed way too much even in 10 ft seas!

[@100Aces]

Keel and plates were separated...steel plates were shoved in and welded as a "band-aid " til the end of the 1975 season, it was overdue for a structural overhaul!

[@Whatatwist2009]

@@100Aces From what i heard they did that band-aid fix every few years. I doubt they had any plans to do a permanent fix as it might have not been doable for what the company would be willing to pay. They were just going to slap on another quick fix and move on. They also kept raising the amount the ship was approved to haul past what it was originally designed around. These things likely contributed to the ships sinking. None of this is on the crew but sadly they paid the price for the higher ups for straining the ship more than it should have been to increase their profit.

[@milojanis4901]

Damn corporate bigwigs. Profits are everything, innocent lives are not as important. Another insurance company screwing the little guy.....

[@paulhoffman778]

@@100Aces no doubt she was doomed after hitting Carabou Shoal, and strucal integrity.

[@100Aces]

@@paulhoffman778 that was the straw that broke the camel's back! Doomed way before hand!

[@sweetdixie8498]

They only have to tell me once that Superior they said never gives up her dead .

[@dmmchugh3714]

A very informative video. This weatherman seemed so young here; he must be retired by now. The sinking just had 46 year anniversary. Hard to think the time flies; I was just a young teen myself back then.

[@topthrilldragster20]

Cooper at one point recorded an 100 mph wind gust and 2 waves over 35 feet. Those waves caught up with the Fitzgerald, and forced her to nose dive.

[@erikwthackrey1963]

11/10/19 44 years ago today we will never forget them. The legend lives on

[@awildjared1396]

My opinion on her sinking is with Burney Cooper, Capt. of the Anderson at the time, that she bottomed out, the reason there are no marks on the stern section is because a stern wave picked up the stern so there are no marks on it.

[@100Aces]

We will never get to see the damage bow side as its buried into the lake bed 18' estimated speed was 35-42 mph when she plowed into the lake bed poor men never knew they were going down or what hit them Reat In Peace S.S. Edmund Fitzgerald and her 29 Man Crew!

[@matthewmosier8439]

@@100Aces Honestly, they might have been killed instantly, in some cases. 35 mph if you are braced against a bulkhead while riding out a storm could still at least knock a man unconscious. It would explain the lack of a distress call. The windows blow out of the bridge and the wheelman ends up thrown around and laying near the ship on the bottom just like a driver of a car without a seatbelt can be thrown out of a wreck.

[@TheUkester69]

Nice story to add to the significance of a weather forecast. Good integration.

[@southernpennsyrailfan8579]

Everyone Press F to pay 100% respect for each man that died on the Fitzgerald

[@NateCraven318]

I think it was sudden and catastrophic. The ship just disappeared completely. If those waves were that big, they had to have rolled up the deck, causing a severe list. The water stays up in the forward cabin and put the bow down underwater. Once it started down, the screw just drove the whole thing into the bottom, breaking the ship deep and causing the stern to roll almost completely over while simultaneously sinking.

[@johnhurd6243]

Wow. Taken word for word from another documentary.

[@NateCraven318]

@@johnhurd6243 Welcome to KZbin comments.

[@anton1949]

Yes, the ship is longer than the water was deep. Makes perfect sense.

[@sfitzcarroldo629]

When suppertime came, the old cook came on deck sayin' Fellas, it's too rough to feed ya At seven p.m., a main hatchway caved in, he said Fellas, it's been good to know ya🥺RIP

[@gavinhickey8815]

Thank you for the video it was very informative.

[@skullduggery3377]

actually, the "three sisters" are referred to as waves; not storms. but the argyle vest guy was mostly correct in everything else. EDIT: actually, they may be referred to as both, apparently. my bad. i may have been wr..wro...wron... kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZzUmHelpMSYkKc

[@Cramblit]

"Witch of November" is the storm front "Witch of November come early", which causes the "three sisters" or "wicked sisters" which are 3 waves perfectly spaced enough that a ship does not have the space to ride them. The ship generally if its a longer freighter like the Edmund was, will be forced to smash through the second wave, completely taking it over in water, and by the time it hits the 3rd wave, it''s still not had time to properly ride it. This causes in many cases the freighter to snap in half as the stresses from the buoyancy and 3 waves pull on each other. Add in 29,000 extra tons of cargo... You have a doom scenario. This is why the Edmund Fitzgerald is in two pieces, and why the lights, communications, and death of the sailors was so instant. It is strange to have nobody found, or even bodies. But if you consider everyone was most likely inside the front cabin, with the doors to outside sealed in a massively rough sea's, and your ship suddenly breaks completely in half and you have hundreds of tons of water surging up through the decks, with the ship sinking in a matter of a minute.. It's no surprise no bodies were found.

[@skullduggery3377]

@@Cramblit - the bow was partially dug into the bottom while the other piece was so close by. something that probably wouldn't have happened had it broke apart on the surface.

[@allenfields9058]

@@skullduggery3377 -- The damage to the bow along with the proximity of the broken stern and the iron ore debris field leads me to conclude, in my humble opinion, The Fitzgerald nosed down in a huge rogue wave and was driven to the lake bed where the force of impact split the ship, or she split before the bow hit bottom. She was 730 feet long and rests in 530 feet of water, so it is entirely plausible. With the ship's communications up front, that would explain the almost instantaneous loss of radio contact and radar contact with the Anderson's Captain Cooper saying "My gut feeling was I knew she was gone when I couldn't see her on the scope" as the Fitzgerald sailed into a snow squall. Just one of many theories. Tragic, no matter how you look at it. Rest In Peace.

[@redwolfpiping5701]

It is believed that she touched six fathom shoals off Caribou Island, hence why the Fitz had a list, a fence rail was down, and the missing vent covers allowed more water to weigh her down

[@silverfeigner]

That was interesting to hear what the weather conditions were like for the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I have seen a documentary about it and hearing a weather report mixed with music lyrics certainly explains the conditions with which the ships were sailing in.

[@erikthorstensen5185]

Interesting video. I'm in the Boston area and just don't of the lakes to be rough going! We major at one all the time,noreasters! They can pack a serious punch! In fact they are basically unnamed non tropical storms! Hurricane force winds,and extremely high tides! Plus the ice and snow! If you look up wind speeds on top of mount Washington in nh! Speeds over 100 mph are common! The highest recorded was around 230 mph in the 1930's! And there are people up there all year round reporting the weather and doing experiments!

[@adidas20zero]

What happened was simple. The ship was taking on water from the huge waves. It was overloaded at that. Due to the waves and the up and down motion in the water, it put a strain on the ship and it broke apart at the surface and sank. Many think it broke apart after hitting the bottom, and if that were true the two halves of the ship would be much closer and the back half probably not be sitting upside down.

[@michaels6261]

Great job with this

[@sylviahacker6695]

Interesting, thanks for posting this.

[@italianviking80]

I wonder how many people outside of Michigan would even know of the Edmund Fitzgerald were it not for Lightfoot's song.

[@kelliebrooks9094]

Some said that lightfoot song is paying tribute to all who gave their lives working on ships in the lakes i thought that is quite accurate if u listen to the lyrics closely...it one of the most well constructed songs...i find it quite amazing it was number one...i believe i heard it during the 70s more than any other song an its unforgetable...

[@lynlewis8606]

The Legend lives on you're goddamn right

[@danfletcher3255]

The reason why there were no survivors is cause 1: The crew were all on the bridge..which went down first. 2: They say that the ship was pulled under by one big wave. 3: they didn't make it to the lifeboats.

[@b3j8]

Actually they weren't. Only the Captain, those concerned with steering the ship, and perhaps afew others would have been there. But most not on duty were in their bunks, or someplace else in the crew quarters aft. Also the Mechanical guys would have been in the engine room, also aft. None of the expeditions has ever gotten into the aft section as that is upside down on the bottom. Many of the crew are likely entombed there.

[@danfletcher3255]

@@b3j8 oh.. OK.. Thx

[@atomicwedgie8176]

@M Detlef They were close to a safe port with a Captain they trusted. They thought they were home free.

[@b3j8]

@@danfletcher3255 I wish the aft section was upright. At least some of the crew might have been removed for burial and their families given some closure.

[@davidscherer9623]

The Meteorologist (I think) perfect on spot and informative... the guy being intervewed, not so much.

[@stevenacosta3004]

350 ships sank in Lake Superior Even The Great Big Fitzgerald ( SS EDMUND FITZGERALD)

[@mikewitcombe6507]

Did not know that. Thank you. 🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🇺🇸

[@merc340sr]

The cause of the sinking is probably not one single thing...it could be a combination of very large waves, the ship being slammed into the shoal by lifting waves up and down in shallow waters, or twisted by the waves, maybe the ship was overloaded with iron ore, and maybe the hatches on the covers were not closed properly,...I'm suggesting all of the above...

[@dennisryan6370]

With shills like Mixter.....it'll be an uphill battle to find out what really took place...

[@4tuneagent]

I was wondering the difference in the 2 ships? The Arthur M. Anderson was to the north and behind the Fitzgerald.. Was this ship similar, or maybe better equipped to handle the strong winds and waves?

[@dprice6603]

The thing shown was inaccurate the anderson was behind but further south than the Fitzgerald witch was extremely close to shoals and that's what lead mc sorley to belive she grounded also the keel was not in a fit to run shape and the company wasn't willing to pay to fix it the anderson was shorter than the fitz and waves barley made it off the ship before another hit alot of things lead to the sinking of the fitz this is probably to late for you to see or care but if you do hope this helps

[@4tuneagent]

@@dprice6603 Great info.. Thanks. I just watched this about a month or so ago, then I kept reading more comments and some posts from people who were from the area at the time. I was a teenager when it happened, and when the song came out, so it was always like a big mystery to me, and I'm sure a lot of other people as well..

[@USAR8888]

"Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours? The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay if they put 15 more miles behind her..."

[@stilltlrforlife]

Terrible tragedy, her legend lives on in the waters of the great Superior lake. May all 29 men R.I.P. and bless all 29 families.

[@quietcorner293]

I looked at the date which it sank and realized that I turned 3 the next day.

[@nikkibest5010]

I was 3 years old when this happened too.😊😥

[@Dr.Westside]

I was born exactly two weeks later .

[@1L6E6VHF]

I was born 12 days before Kennedy was assassinated, 12 years before the Fitzgerald sank. For years, radios all over the place reminded me it was my birthday.

[@robloxvids2233]

Nobody gives a fuck, you narcissist.

[@ChrisStokes07]

Does any one know where the love of God goes When the waves turn the minutes to hours? R.I.P.

[@beornthebear.8220]

"The witch of November".

[@kirbyjohnson5487]

It got hit by 3 waves and drove the ship to the bottom. They haven proven this.

[@shoreline780]

God Bless the 29! Rest In Peace Boys!!

[@chrisst8922]

If we could see the original weather forecast in 1975 it would have been different. 'And the depression will reach around 977 millibars with an oclusion tangentially across Lake Superior across the Forty-Ninth parallel at 2000 feet with storm force nine or ten according to USAAF aerial reconnaissance'.

[@victorgrasscourt3382]

The ship should have stayed in port for 24 hours

[@kelliebrooks9094]

Yes its pretty incredible nov 9th 10th 11th 120 years 40 years apart those days have been big violent storms 3 or 4 times...starting in 1913

[@ryanb6537]

That is so sad it was a great ship

[@ryanb6537]

Ric Fan yeh

[@raymondjones616]

I can't stop noticing that the reporter has a huge smile on his face the entire time...just seems odd for the topic.

[@kelliebrooks9094]

I dont think so much it was a structural problem so much as she was used as a work horse...steel normally bends an flexes only so much before it breaks....1957 she was built everything has advanced for the better...steel welding equipment...most of all we have NASA shared weather satelite equipment so tracking an prediction ...is on its game in 1998 no deaths on the ships in the lake proves the advances...i think we tend to forget the coast guard is the 5th branch if the military im sure the weather assistence from nasa came thru the coast guard needs an weather experts...

[@kelliebrooks9094]

Supposedly the fitz made that turn at the top of the lake an lost both her radar attenas at the same wind as they turned south to head down the coast...so the anderson had to guide her with its radar....keep 9 miles apart

[@seadog2396]

It is a tragic, tragic story. Going down in a ship in raging waters has to be one of the Worst ways to die....

[@danvetor1365]

We know they never had a chance to get out. It was quick. It went down like a brick. They are still in the old Fitz. May they rest in peace.

[@wifeoftim]

Can't believe it's going to be 45 years since that sad day.

[@GearheadRob319]

Almost spooky thinking no one was ever found.

[@Cummings7]

“False feeling”. SMH.

[@garylefevers]

Agreed

[@ronaldmiller2740]

WHAT A SAD NIGHT ,,G--D BLESS THEM ALL,,. ITS ALMOST LIKE THE TITANIC THOSE GUYS IN THAT FREEZEING COLD WATER ,, THEN THE WIND ,, I HOPE THEY PASSED AWAY FAST NO SUFFERING .AMEN .. VETERAN ....

[@pedrolopez8057]

Basically they sailed into hurricane. There is no mystery about what sank her.

[@dubliners0999]

I thought it sunk because the cargo holds were not battened down(?)

[@fcktheonlythingmissingisu3792]

LIES ALL LIES That was done to put blame on the crew. Thus the owner of the ship and the manufacturer of the ship would not be held liable. In a nutshell the Fitzgerald should have never been in water until properly repaired. That would have taken one year in dry dock delaying it's launch, the owner wouldn't approve that to much money. Profit is more important than human lives in the corporate world.

[@blackopscw7913]

@@fcktheonlythingmissingisu3792 Nope, it was the storm and that's it.

[@fcktheonlythingmissingisu3792]

@@blackopscw7913 What the fuck are you talking about. Your statement has nothing to do with what I wrote. What I wrote is true the ship had a damaged hull. Did you flunk reading comprehension in school?

[@deejayimm]

One of the reasons I quit watching the news is because I was tired of people talking about death while using that stupid voice and smiling.

[@johnstewart8473]

Still believe the three sisters got them.

[@Mike1614b]

weather guy, who wasn't born yet, knows it all

[@louisem4968]

Who teaches these American reporters to talk like they do? So annoying.

[@blackopscw7913]

You must be European because canadian one's speak like such to 😂

[@RAV1953]

It really is not a mystery as to what & why the Fitz sank...all you have to do is listen to Captain Bernie Cooper and, he will tell you what happened. (So will most all seamen from the Grt. Lks.) What is amazing is, how fast it went down.

[@captainmorgan757]

@ 1:43, "the warm waters of the Great Lakes". The *warm* waters of the Great Lakes!?! He lost any credibility with that statement.

[@sv4647]

Water in great Lake is warmer compared to atmospheric temp in that region

[@captainmorgan757]

@@sv4647 that's absurd. Then the same could be said about the water at either pole. Have you ever ventured into Lake Superior? I assure you that the water is *anything* but "warm".

[@sv4647]

Warm could be a relative term spoken with respect to other things I am just saying that waters of great lakes is warmer compared to the air in the region thus causing storm like conditions

[@sv4647]

But ok

[@johnhurd6243]

The average temperature of the great lakes bounce around 72°. This includes Lake superior with an average of 56°.

[@JoeIndustries]

Really imppressive story...no fill great details.... my condolences though belated go out to the wives sons and daughters (now grandsons and granddaughters too)

[@paulmactavish3355]

And the sea gave up its dead, not lake SUPIOUR WITCH OF NOVEMBER CAME EARLY DEATH 🎩

[@snowcreek7156]

Well, we do know, kinda in 2023.

[@gordonvanpatten6637]

Many well seasoned Mariners all say she hid bottom at some point, and I feel that makes the most sense, McSorley should never left port into a raging storm.

[@johnhurd6243]

He didn't. When he left on the 9th it was calm, and the storm was to pass south of the lake

[@tubaronesmjzba63]

structural failure in the hull...

[@dutchflats]

I thought they finally determined that some latches on its cargo holds gave out flooding her such that she lost buoyancy?

[@RJ1999x]

That's what they said, but in reality it wasn't true

[@southernpennsyrailfan8579]

I thought it was just a legend

[@bastianbux5107]

It fucking breaks my ❤ still because i from Michigan and the lost of 29 inocent men so so sad but that is mother nature on earth

[@TempoDrift1480]

Who the fuck is that guy?

[@VisualAssault2011]

Dude is smiling the whole time like he's a Democrat reporting the mass murder of Republicans at a picnic.

[@joshjohnston348]

It actually sunk in Wisconsin

[@stimactzedvard7556]

Wrong whitefish bay is not in wisconsin do some research.

[@northlander4370]

The ship sank in Canadian waters...Whitefish bay , Ontario .

[@JeffDeWitt]

​@@northlander4370 Just over the line, the boundary between Michigan and Ontario runs though Whitefish Bay.

[@northlander4370]

@@JeffDeWitt apparently they were heading closer to the Canadian shores to mitigate the waves they were fighting. Their route at the time made it more feasible to sail closer to Canada to try to escape the rough waters in the centre of the lake.

[@isaacz.8349]

Whoops sorry guys I kind of just sank our ship