The "Sissy" Stereotype in Classic Hollywood

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Watching Classic Movies

Watching Classic Movies

Ай бұрын

In a time when homosexuality was illegal, 1930s Classic Hollywood films commonly had so-called “sissy” characters. Clearly coded as gay, their effeminate demeanor was presented for laughs and ridicule. While these characters were meant to be mocked, they triumphed in their own way. They were bold in expressing their identity, were typically engaged in careers they were passionate about, and lived how they pleased, without caring what anyone thought of them.
Timestamped list of films below.
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Films and Actors (when known) in Order of Appearance
Opening
Soda Squirt (1933)
Wonder Bar (1934)
After First Title Card/00:00:28
Call Her Savage (1932)
Tyrell Davis in Our Betters (1933)
She Done Him Wrong (1933)
Franklin Pangborn in International House (1933)
Bobby Watson in Manhattan Parade (1931)
Hell’s Highway (1932)
After Second Title Card/00:01:27
Bobby Watson in Manhattan Parade (1931)
Drew Demorest in The Broadway Melody (1929)
Bobby Watson in Manhattan Parade (1931)
Franklin Pangborn in Only Yesterday (1933)
00:02:03
Bobby Watson in Manhattan Parade (1931)
Tyrell Davis in Our Betters (1933)
Drew Demorest in The Broadway Melody (1929)
Tyrell Davis in Our Betters (1933)
Drew Demorest in The Broadway Melody (1929)
Tyrell Davis in Our Betters (1933)
Bobby Watson in Manhattan Parade (1931)
00:03:02
Coming Out Party (1934)
Bobby Watson in Manhattan Parade (1931)
Coming Out Party (1934)
Franklin Pangborn in International House (1933)
Tyrell Davis in Our Betters (1933)
Franklin Pangborn in Professional Sweetheart (1933)
Bobby Watson in Manhattan Parade (1931)
Tyrell Davis in Our Betters (1933)
00:04:04
Bobby Watson in Manhattan Parade (1931)
Tyrell Davis in Our Betters (1933)
Soda Squirt (1933)
Harold Minjir in The Public Enemy (1931)
Our Modern Maidens (1929)
Tyrell Davis in Our Betters (1933)
00:05:04
Harold Minjir in The Public Enemy (1931)
Tyrell Davis in Our Betters (1933)
Call Her Savage (1932)
Soda Squirt (1933)

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@liamcragin
@liamcragin Ай бұрын
As far as homophobic stereotypes go, these seem rather tame compared to later depictions in the allegedly enlightened 80’s-00’s.
@whoelsebutmeofcoursei
@whoelsebutmeofcoursei 21 күн бұрын
In the 00's it was downright demonic, specially in comedy
@twsbibanghorn7343
@twsbibanghorn7343 21 күн бұрын
Why is it homophobic?
@giovannicervantes2053
@giovannicervantes2053 16 күн бұрын
​@@twsbibanghorn7343it's meant to be to the ratings boards and people looking face value at it in reality it was probably repping the director or a ton of closeted actors in the films
@blameitoncapitalism
@blameitoncapitalism 11 күн бұрын
who calls the 80s - 00s enlightened lol
@tomboyjessie1352
@tomboyjessie1352 7 күн бұрын
The 00's I understand since I grew up in that era, but what happened in the 80's and 90's?
@ChucklesMcGurk
@ChucklesMcGurk Ай бұрын
Ironic considering how many macho actors were actually gay
@fanaticat1
@fanaticat1 Ай бұрын
Yes…
@sonnysantana5454
@sonnysantana5454 Ай бұрын
h'eh , h'eh the few real straights in follywood were a real minority
@IbriyGad
@IbriyGad Ай бұрын
That was the point. Hollywood providing MISDIRECTION to protect the real gays and their activity. Can’t identify what you do know what you’re looking at.
@pragmaticcat7619
@pragmaticcat7619 Ай бұрын
Not so many.
@Lux2
@Lux2 Ай бұрын
I think they're called 'tops'.
@fred3467
@fred3467 Ай бұрын
After they strengthened the Production Code in 1934, those types of characters were pretty much banned from the movies.
@RayPointerChannel
@RayPointerChannel Ай бұрын
They were still there, it's just that the characterizations were not as centralized.
@chigal0926
@chigal0926 Ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say “strengthen”. It was a form of censorship that I believed undermined the film industry in some ways.
@mgconlan
@mgconlan Ай бұрын
@@chigal0926 In quite a lot of ways. Your video included clips from "Call Her Savage," "International House" and "Wonder Bar," three of the masterpieces of the so-called "pre-Code" era.
@Benjiesbeenbetter.
@Benjiesbeenbetter. Ай бұрын
​@chigal0926 Yeah, I'm not sure there actually was a code before 1934. Some silent movies would have been controversial if made, well not now, but certainly up to 20 years ago.
@bluestrife28
@bluestrife28 26 күн бұрын
And then came Queer Coding, and the public image of the mincing evil queen still follows us around to this day so much that it’s identified with and carried on by those who need to be something.
@jeffpagan7735
@jeffpagan7735 Ай бұрын
WOW 30s gays must have been superqueens.
@mikefitzpatrick1213
@mikefitzpatrick1213 Ай бұрын
Dolly Parton did little song about it: Baby I'm Burnin!
@msimpson4078
@msimpson4078 Ай бұрын
ROFLMAO
@SamWesting
@SamWesting 27 күн бұрын
Confusing times: Raymond Burr (Perry Mason) was gay. But Jonathan Harris (Lost In Space) was straight.
@brianarbenz7206
@brianarbenz7206 25 күн бұрын
Harris spoke with the old aristocratic NYC and Hudson Valley transatlantic style, like FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt. He exaggerated it horrendously for Dr. Smith, making Smith one of the creepiest characters ever.
@LRayart
@LRayart 4 күн бұрын
Jonathan Harris was STRAIGHT???? That's as surprising as John Hurt being straight.
@AceLM92
@AceLM92 Күн бұрын
What for real? Harris threw a curveball there apparently.
@forthrightgambitia1032
@forthrightgambitia1032 20 күн бұрын
Something worth mentioning: a lot of these stereotypes were heavily influenced by Oscar Wilde. His apogee and fall in the 1890s was in living memory in the 1920s and 1930s and was the most famous homosexual scandal of the era - at a time when it was rarely discussed openly - and so his imagine and personality formed the template for these characters.
@hanschristianbrando5588
@hanschristianbrando5588 Ай бұрын
So what's changed, girlfriend? One thing, though: the queen of movie sissy stereotypes, the great Franklin Pangborn, actually fought in a war, which is more than John Wayne or Ronald Reagan can say.
@PaulTesta
@PaulTesta Ай бұрын
Battle of Argonne (WW I)
@franksantore2810
@franksantore2810 Ай бұрын
I recognize Mr Pangborn, but, unfortunately, none of the other LGBTQ actors. Can anyone provide information as to the others' identity?
@watchingclassicmovies
@watchingclassicmovies Ай бұрын
Actor and film details by time stamp are in the description
@jeraldbaxter3532
@jeraldbaxter3532 Ай бұрын
John Wayne's super macho patriot act was nauseating and hypocritical; he did not enlist because of his affair with Dietrich (yet in the 1970s was critical of draft dodgers) and he was afraid being gone from Hollywood would damage his acting career. Well, he was probably right about that - he was not a very talented actor ( to paraphrase Dorothy Parker, "He ran the gamut of emotions from A to B."). My belief is that his super conservative patriot act was mainly an attempt to keep desperately hang on to fame.
@jrdunn5052
@jrdunn5052 Ай бұрын
@@jeraldbaxter3532 Actually, Wayne couldn't serve because he was A) Overage and B) Had suffered a serious back injury while playing football. Facts are tough. They're even tougher when you're stupid.
@thoughtsurferzone5012
@thoughtsurferzone5012 Ай бұрын
You can hear the director in the background saying "Not swishy enough."
@mildredpierce4506
@mildredpierce4506 Ай бұрын
In old movies if flowers or perfume is associated with a man, that meant that character was gay. In the movie the Maltese falcon, thePeter Laurie character, Mr. Cairo, left a business card which Humphrey Bogart Secretary said it smelled like perfume. That meant he was gay. If I’m not mistaken, the novel the Maltese falcon, Mr Cairo was blatantly homosexual
@brianedwards7142
@brianedwards7142 Ай бұрын
The thing that impressed me about the book was how closely it matched the film (unlike modern adaptations). There was a bit where Spade mused about Cairo's background and used language that would be considered somewhat derogatory these days (I can't remember what word exactly, possibly "pansy") but it wasn't a long passage and much of it was in Spade's head so would have required narration which comes off as clumsy if overused. It didn't change the story or the character of Joel Cairo much and was probably put in the novel as sensational fanservice and removed from the movie for the same reason.
@deboralee1623
@deboralee1623 Ай бұрын
haven't read _TMF_ since that detective fiction class in 197something, and back then i probably missed the "clues". time for a re-read.
@haplessasshole9615
@haplessasshole9615 Ай бұрын
@@deboralee1623 In the book, Spade noticed Cairo's chypre fragrance. I the movie, it was changed to gardenia. I suppose John Huston decided (probably correctly) the audience would recognize the flower more readily. What Spade's ID of chypre tells us in the book is, Spade isn't quite the average Joe he wants to pretend he is. He's exceptionally observant, and has a sophisticated knowledge of fragrances.
@iainsan
@iainsan Ай бұрын
You're quite right. After the Hayes Code of 1934, Hollywood had to be much more subtle in implying homosexuality or the movie would not pass.
@Benjiesbeenbetter.
@Benjiesbeenbetter. Ай бұрын
​@@iainsanA lot of movies had to depart from their source novels quite drastically after the code for all sorts of reasons. The climactic twist in "Rebecca" was watered down for the movie, making it less shocking that in the book.
@cyrilmauras4247
@cyrilmauras4247 Ай бұрын
It was very verboten for actual masculine gay men to appear on the screens in those days, only the exaggerated effeminate ones were shown, as the post says, to be ridiculed and laughed at.
@brianarbenz7206
@brianarbenz7206 Ай бұрын
Interesting how things were inverted later: Rock Hudson was told to walk less effeminately or he couldn’t get work.
@danityvanityinsanity
@danityvanityinsanity Ай бұрын
@@brianarbenz7206Because of the Hayes code that put the kibbutz on all the gaiety!
@akrenwinkle
@akrenwinkle Ай бұрын
@@danityvanityinsanity You meant kibosh... I love it!
@Benjiesbeenbetter.
@Benjiesbeenbetter. Ай бұрын
​@@brianarbenz7206Apparently he was a nervous wreck through worrying that he'd be "discovered". The studio found that a newspaper were preparing to print an exposé, so they did a dral where they threw Tab Hunter to the wolves instead.
@kelyoph
@kelyoph Ай бұрын
@@brianarbenz7206 Rock Hudson walking effeminately....? Really? First time I heard that. He always looked very masculine in his demeanor.
@MarkTheBloggerOfficial
@MarkTheBloggerOfficial Ай бұрын
There's a Western from the 50s where a gets off a stagecoach as a deputy watches. Someone later asks him who the woman was, where she went: the deputy replies "What woman?" The other man laughs, and they all carry on talking.
@bradleycrouch7107
@bradleycrouch7107 Ай бұрын
Just goes to show us that we've always been here.
@SaishsJahshsb-ou9nl
@SaishsJahshsb-ou9nl 6 күн бұрын
Yep since Ancient Greece….. unfortunately
@sonicfanboy3375
@sonicfanboy3375 4 күн бұрын
​@@SaishsJahshsb-ou9nlWhat do you mean "unfortunately?'
@mchevre
@mchevre 3 күн бұрын
@SaishsJahshsb-ou9nl since Ancient Greece? Try since the beginning of humanity - well for humans anyway. Homosexuality is an inherent part of nature that has been observed in literally hundreds of different species, and certainly predates even the existence of humanity itself. And really.. unfortunately? Like.. I don’t even know what to say to that. What a sad way to think.
@elijahvincent985
@elijahvincent985 Ай бұрын
I wouldn't say "sissy" so much as they are "Sassy", "over-the-top" or "Feminine." This is hilarious! Also, the cartoon comes from the 1930-1932 series "Flip the Frog."
@ParisAlexandros
@ParisAlexandros Күн бұрын
It’s from the term “sissy craze”
@MrEab2010
@MrEab2010 Ай бұрын
I remember the grief they gave Charles Nelson Reilly and Paul Lynde in the 60s.
@whereisyourhumanity7557
@whereisyourhumanity7557 Ай бұрын
And they were always my faves on Hollywood Squares and Matchgame! Richard Dawson was everyone else's pick, but I never quite trusted him. I'm not sure why!
@jeraldbaxter3532
@jeraldbaxter3532 Ай бұрын
​@@whereisyourhumanity7557Charles Nelson Reilly and Paul Lynch were witty, but never really gave the impression that they were impressed by themselves, whereas Richard Dawson thought he was a suave and handsome Romeo, but the truth was, he was not as charming and attractive as he thought. His awkward kissing the women contestants on "Family Feud" was cringeworthy.
@leestamm3187
@leestamm3187 Ай бұрын
​@@jeraldbaxter3532 If you actually watched Family Feud regularly, you would know that Dawson never kissed anyone who didn't want to be kissed. In fact, almost all of the women contestants actively invited kisses from him, often requesting extras for friends or family. In point of fact, he consulted with the contestants before the show, and never kissed anyone without their expressed permission. BTW, it was Paul Lynde, not Lynch.
@deboralee1623
@deboralee1623 Ай бұрын
my post is off-topic, but what the heck. as i misremember, _Sesame Street_ aired an episode of _Family Food_. in it, Dawson kissed all the female contestants, but not the male one...until he said something along the lines of, "Say, Richard, what about me?" the Muppet contestant received his kiss, then it was "tiiime to play the FOOD!"
@venom7774
@venom7774 Ай бұрын
Stop the I’m a victim. You did what you did to survive. Please. You find a place In The world. It culled the herd
@mareli9211
@mareli9211 Ай бұрын
I’ve always loved Ernest. “Passion!”
@2020Bookworm
@2020Bookworm Ай бұрын
And if you want to laugh and ridicule straight people, watch old reruns of The Newlywed Game.
@canaisyoung3601
@canaisyoung3601 Ай бұрын
Or really, any family sitcom made in the 1980s and 1990s. Married...With Children and The Simpsons are perennial favorites.
@lesterpossum4088
@lesterpossum4088 Ай бұрын
Tyrell Davis is recorded as being married to one Lota B. Cheek. Now there’s a story I’d want to hear
@philipdraper7284
@philipdraper7284 Ай бұрын
To me one of the best (if unintentional) was Dr. Praetorius in “Bride of Frankenstein” portrayed by the inimitable Ernst Thesiger. If 1930s shade was embodied in one character, it was in that role.
@Mallen151
@Mallen151 25 күн бұрын
Funnily enough, I have heard theories that Praetorious was intentionally coded as gay. The director for The Bride of Frankenstein, James Whale was gay in real life. I don’t think that Whale ever confirmed whether or not Praetorius was deliberately coded as gay but a lot of fans have speculated! 😅
@SerpentKiss11
@SerpentKiss11 10 күн бұрын
Loved Dr.Praetorius! When he looked at the to-be Bride Of Frankie in her coffin and goes "Pretty little thing...in her own way." 😂
@DanielThureskog
@DanielThureskog 24 күн бұрын
There's a great documentary about the Swedish side of this era called Prejudice & Pride - Swedish Film Queer, which I can recommend watching. It starts with Mauritz Stiller 1916 film Vingarne and goes forward to our day and age.
@MrHorse-by3mp
@MrHorse-by3mp Ай бұрын
This is fascinating stuff, thanks for posting. Interestingly, even straight (as far as I know) actors like George Raft could be subject to merciless ridicule by audiences for perceived "effeminate" traits. According to the journalist Joseph Mitchell (I highly recommend the collection "Up in the Old Hotel" if you like old New York stories) the Bowery winos would absolutely start howling anti-gay slurs at the screen whenever Raft would do one of his signature dance routines.
@carolewalker2039
@carolewalker2039 Ай бұрын
Carole Lombard said George Raft was the best lover in Hollywood. Clark Gable the worst.
@majkus
@majkus 5 күн бұрын
'Farming' by Cole Porter, sung by Danny Kaye in Let's Face It (1941): "They tell me cows who are feeling milky All give cream when they're milked by Willkie." "Miss Elsa Maxwell, so folks tattle, Got well-goosed while dehorning her cattle." "Don't inquire of Georgie Raft Why his cow has never calfed, Georgie's bull is beautiful, but he's gay!" (apparently one of the first attested usages of 'gay' with its modern meaning, at least in song lyrics)
@PixelSubstream
@PixelSubstream 23 күн бұрын
Would be funny to ironically make a reinterperation of this character archtype in 21 century story
@anthonymadejczyk861
@anthonymadejczyk861 8 күн бұрын
I love this, the cards are hard to read though. The arrival of Ernest in Our Betters (1933) is the movie's punchline at the end!
@58christiansful
@58christiansful Ай бұрын
The point is the ‘sissy’ type does exist in real life - even in this day and age - what the films do is perhaps exaggerate it slightly, for comic effect, invariably - it would be hard to do it for purposes of tragedy or high drama.
@denniscarroll7696
@denniscarroll7696 Ай бұрын
What, no Bert Lahr?!?!? ...seen him in other movies besides playing the "Cowardly Lion"(come to think of it, the lion was effeminate too).
@watchingclassicmovies
@watchingclassicmovies Ай бұрын
I was focusing on the Pre-Code era, but that's a good one!
@denniscarroll7696
@denniscarroll7696 Ай бұрын
@@watchingclassicmovies ...I know of 4 movies he did before 1934 (pre-code) and I have him in, "Flying High"(1933) on DVD. Bert Lahr's "Cowardly Lion" influences another feline, that pink-colored cartoon character, "Snagglepuss."
@johnhall3570
@johnhall3570 Ай бұрын
“I’m jutht a dandy-lion!”
@sandaglad
@sandaglad Ай бұрын
LOVE the actor at 0:57 ( he re-appears here several times). I see his name was Bobby Watson & this film was called "Manhattan Parade."
@davidserlin8097
@davidserlin8097 Ай бұрын
This is a fantastic compilation of clips. My only suggestion would be that because the sound quality varies on these clips (such as the singing chambermaids from Call Her Savage) it would be great if the dialogue was captioned.
@watchingclassicmovies
@watchingclassicmovies Ай бұрын
There are automatic captions if you switch on the CC feature. Sometimes they aren't very accurate, but they turned out pretty well for this video
@meerkat7406
@meerkat7406 Ай бұрын
Funny - Reminds me of major corporations I’ve worked for. Lol!!!
@watchingclassicmovies
@watchingclassicmovies Ай бұрын
🤣
@melissacooper8724
@melissacooper8724 29 күн бұрын
My favorite was at 0:51! 😂 That scene was from International House starring WC Fields.
@johnnyb4187
@johnnyb4187 Ай бұрын
'The Bellboy', 1918 w /Fatty and Buster. Ahead of their time I guess.
@33Donner77
@33Donner77 Ай бұрын
To be typecast as an actor - sometimes it's successful.
@PotterPossum1989
@PotterPossum1989 Ай бұрын
These are hilarious. It would have been nice if each movie had been named.
@melissacooper8724
@melissacooper8724 29 күн бұрын
The one I did recognize was International House starring WC Fields.
@Imezita
@Imezita 8 күн бұрын
They are in the description :D
@bbrown333
@bbrown333 Ай бұрын
Another great video!
@somestrangehandle
@somestrangehandle 4 күн бұрын
Me and my Dad's jaws dropped during that Public Enemy (1931) One thing I love about it is that Jimmy's character didn't act like a homophobic asshole in response to being hit on.
@scottandrewhutchins
@scottandrewhutchins 16 күн бұрын
These characters are really flaming steretypes compared to most characters I've seen called "queercoded." It's pretty startling to see them in films of this period. The only one of the films I've seen excerpted here is The Public Enemy.
@moxie96
@moxie96 Ай бұрын
Can you list these movies to their clips? I would like to see them all
@watchingclassicmovies
@watchingclassicmovies Ай бұрын
There's a timestamped list of movies in the description
@arthuradonizio7762
@arthuradonizio7762 Ай бұрын
Now, now don't let's be silly 😏
@Pisti846
@Pisti846 Ай бұрын
How did these get passed the Hayes' Office?
@davidserlin8097
@davidserlin8097 Ай бұрын
The Hayes Code was not put into place until 1934. So a lot of these films predate 1934. If you are a fan of TMC, sometimes they will often show pre-code films featuring sissy or queer characters in great films from Germany, the UK, and the US.
@charleholst3881
@charleholst3881 Ай бұрын
I have always said the gayest line to ever get past.the Hayes Office was at the end of Some Like It Hot. Jack Lemmon, still in drag: “You know I’m a fella, right?” “Well, nobody’s perfect!”
@ericalbany
@ericalbany Ай бұрын
@@charleholst3881 There's a Lou Holtz film where he says that he went to the ballet & a man walked on stage - Holtz then does a very strange seeies of steps, and says "Well there was a man's name in the program anyhow..."
@Engelbird
@Engelbird 4 күн бұрын
​@@charleholst3881 best ending of any movie, ever
@jefflong1799
@jefflong1799 Күн бұрын
I'm sure that the person who put this vid up has seen "The Celluloid Closet".. (gay men and women in film), narrated by big stars like Tom Hanks, Lily Tomlin etc., which is a very mature documentary).. Also, a lot of people don't know that the documentary that I'm talking about, had a companion book, called "The VINYL Closet", gays in the music biz, from black lesbians in Harlem from the 1920's, singin' the blues at speakeasies (while dressed like men), up through the 1990's (KD Lang, Melissa E., etc). You should check out BOTH the film and book.. :)
@watchingclassicmovies
@watchingclassicmovies 19 сағат бұрын
Oh yes! Love the documentary and have referred to the book a lot over the years. I didn't know about The Vinyl Closet though. Looking forward to checking that out, thanks!
@jefflong1799
@jefflong1799 18 сағат бұрын
@@watchingclassicmovies Yep, Great thx :)
@AdolfoCardenasOrtega
@AdolfoCardenasOrtega Ай бұрын
You forgot to show the great crossdresing of Laurel & Hardy
@lizzieallen2284
@lizzieallen2284 Күн бұрын
Brilliant! My favourite isn't here...Over the Moon, a British comedy from 1937 in glorious Technicolor starring Merle Oberon. Peter Haddon is featured as Lord Petcliffe who is described as 'an interior decorator by profession, a social organiser by choice and, well, never mind, dear, you'll see.' When Lord Petcliffe languishes in his extravagantly furnished bedroom, wearing fluffy pink slippers, he complains to a friend: 'We had a pageant last night. I wore myself to a positive shadow over some dreadful charity.' A photo of him can be found in Stephen Bourne's trailblazing book 'Brief Encounters - Lesbians & Gays in British Cinema 1930-1971'.
@rhyfeddu
@rhyfeddu Ай бұрын
Isnt the actor at :57 (and other clips) the same one who played the bus pest in "It Happened One Night"? If so, I had no idea he had a period playing "sissies"
@watchingclassicmovies
@watchingclassicmovies Ай бұрын
That's Bobby Watson; you're thinking of Roscoe Karns in It Happened One Night. They do look similar!
@AbrasiousProductions
@AbrasiousProductions Ай бұрын
0:28 1930s femboys be like:
@akrenwinkle
@akrenwinkle Ай бұрын
Off-topic, but where tf did "be like" start and why do people across all demographics use it?
@AbrasiousProductions
@AbrasiousProductions Ай бұрын
@@akrenwinkle I have no idea.
@treceh
@treceh 15 сағат бұрын
Could you slow down the title cards separating each subsection please? They’re honestly pretty tough to read without pausing. Otherwise, great info and interesting video!
@akrenwinkle
@akrenwinkle Ай бұрын
00:47 What did Mae West say? Captioning was no help.
@watchingclassicmovies
@watchingclassicmovies Ай бұрын
The Cherry Sisters. She was referring to a sister act in vaudeville that was notoriously bad
@akrenwinkle
@akrenwinkle Ай бұрын
@@watchingclassicmovies Thanks. On that note... I've noticed that many on these boards think Mae was supportive of gays, but I haven't come across any evidence. One famous anecdote about Mae (maybe true, maybe not) was her scolding policemen who were arresting gay men. "Remember, when you're hittin' them, you're hittin' a woman." Many likely thought then- and probably now- that gay men had a female mind in a male body, and lesbians had a male mind in a female body." These ancient absurdities don't exactly show support.
@Seabasstien
@Seabasstien Ай бұрын
These demeaning gay caricatures remind me of how black actors show up in films of the period, these stereotypes are very revealing about American prejudice.
@Attmay
@Attmay Ай бұрын
It's worse now if they openly support mutilating children. Walt Disney named names over less than this.
@ericalbany
@ericalbany Ай бұрын
The thing is...I'm Gay & I find these stereotypes funny.
@AbrasiousProductions
@AbrasiousProductions Ай бұрын
I'm bi and these actually offend me less than the preachy woke shit I see now, these are the gays I wanna see, cute, effeminate, not complete and total preverts.
@AbrasiousProductions
@AbrasiousProductions Ай бұрын
@@ericalbany same here :3
@johnroscoe2406
@johnroscoe2406 Ай бұрын
They are very revealing about their time, and to insist tha NOTHING has changed AT ALL is a flatout lie. No we're not "there yet" but we're sure as hell not "back there either.
@stevenvensko5789
@stevenvensko5789 11 күн бұрын
Anyone know the name of the actor who plays Ernest? Ive seen him in a few things but I cant quite remember.
@watchingclassicmovies
@watchingclassicmovies 10 күн бұрын
Tyrell Davis. There's a timestamped list of the actors/films in the description if you're wondering about anyone else!
@pchound5962
@pchound5962 13 күн бұрын
The text goes way too fast in this video.
@watchingclassicmovies
@watchingclassicmovies 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@vincentdesapio
@vincentdesapio 2 күн бұрын
Bobby Watson, who was prominently displayed here in the movie Manhattan Parade later went on portray Hitler in nine movies, more than any other actor.
@watchingclassicmovies
@watchingclassicmovies 18 сағат бұрын
I didn't know that, whoa! You wouldn't ever guess based on this role. I love his character here because I can relate to that professional frustration.
@hawkmaster381
@hawkmaster381 Ай бұрын
It’s not a stereotype if it’s true.
@majkus
@majkus 5 күн бұрын
Consider Horatio Alger Jr.'s endless series of boys' books, typically sort of juvenile Dickens stories. His heroes often form close male-male bonds, even resembling marriage in some cases. But he also has many effeminate or 'sissy' characters portrayed as contemptible or even villainous. Other boys-book authors (e.g., R. H. Barbour, author of many sports-themed books) show the same pattern: bromances on the one hand, and the rejection of effeminacy on the other. It seems to me that until quite recently, the idea of the hyper-masculine gay stereotypes like bears and leathermen would have been literally (and I use that word carefully) inconceivable by almost everyone (including conventionally masculine men who tried to understand their own erotic drives).
@maureenm8462
@maureenm8462 Ай бұрын
Is this all before the hays code because it seemed anything went before then.
@watchingclassicmovies
@watchingclassicmovies Ай бұрын
Yes! This particular stereotype wasn't as obvious after code enforcement
@randywatts6969
@randywatts6969 Күн бұрын
These men are being “swishy”.🤭
@TheBakuganmaster99
@TheBakuganmaster99 18 күн бұрын
Damn, they all have perfect DSL 😂😂
@Mr.happy689
@Mr.happy689 4 күн бұрын
As a gay man i love this I need this Where's the sisy characters when i need them
@luigi55125
@luigi55125 18 күн бұрын
Reminds me of Peewee Herman a bit
@LRayart
@LRayart 4 күн бұрын
Who, ironically, was also straight.
@michaelmcgee8543
@michaelmcgee8543 5 күн бұрын
You forgot the old gay character in the 1931 Gloria Swanson film.
@stephenfurniss8130
@stephenfurniss8130 21 күн бұрын
Didn't end with the Hays Code. Curt Bois as "Butch" in "Hollywood Hotel "1937 is a gem
@tgflux
@tgflux Ай бұрын
What, no Edward Everett Horton??
@cathybreuer5316
@cathybreuer5316 Күн бұрын
The posey comment is pretty funny to be fair, seeing as men wearing a posey in their breast pocket back then was the same as wearing a pride pin right now 😂😂 (at least, I think it was a posey)
@dannyc8876
@dannyc8876 Ай бұрын
OMG what has just happened here? Two hours ago I was watching a Steve Urkel reel then something about Palestine….. two hours later I end up here…. My head hurts, I feel dizzy… what happened in between I just can’t remember
@watchingclassicmovies
@watchingclassicmovies Ай бұрын
🤣
@JosSalinas
@JosSalinas 5 күн бұрын
5:12 my new favourite scene ever
@autismobinch135
@autismobinch135 21 күн бұрын
0:16 holy shit I can’t believe that they could be that overt about it in the 30’s.
@kirbywaite1586
@kirbywaite1586 Ай бұрын
These are parodies.
@Neil-ss3jx
@Neil-ss3jx Ай бұрын
Too butch for MY taste, honey! LOL!
@marcodemizzi6721
@marcodemizzi6721 26 күн бұрын
0:57 is Ben Shapiro?😂
@yokothespacewhale
@yokothespacewhale 14 күн бұрын
It was called being a dandy back then.
@saturn1177
@saturn1177 18 күн бұрын
It's a little ironic to think that this was supposed to be something "acid" humorous and we see with disdain how they portrayed this stereotype at that time. Buuut on the other hand, even today in the middle of 2024, there are people who are gay and act in the same way like in the video to be "funny" using the same humoe (I can name several who literally act the same way in the video). In a way they are acting the same as how they were portrayed, so how can humor that was supposed to be "prejudiced" exactly portray the way of certain guys act in the same way in real life ?
@sensobrando
@sensobrando Ай бұрын
El problema es que hoy el movimiento queer fortalece todavia mas el estereotipo esperpéntico contra el cual, se supone, se luchaba.
@frankmartinez4856
@frankmartinez4856 Ай бұрын
Nothing Change 😵‍💫Still the Same 😬
@user-mr1ln4jx2j
@user-mr1ln4jx2j Ай бұрын
let us not forget jesse woolworths son jimmy donahue but he wasn't a movie star, just as famous
@stevenbrozynski5555
@stevenbrozynski5555 Ай бұрын
Representation matters!
@CorporalClegg1000
@CorporalClegg1000 22 күн бұрын
And now for something completely different.....
@AbrasiousProductions
@AbrasiousProductions Ай бұрын
I still prefer this over the modern gayness.
@jasonchambers4495
@jasonchambers4495 Ай бұрын
What does that mean?
@AbrasiousProductions
@AbrasiousProductions Ай бұрын
@@jasonchambers4495 you know what I mean.
@dandeluxe8731
@dandeluxe8731 22 күн бұрын
​@@AbrasiousProductions I don't think we do. Define "modern gayness".
@FritzMonorail
@FritzMonorail 14 күн бұрын
@@AbrasiousProductions I honestly don’t. You mean, like film and movies? In which case the portrayal is far more varied than it used to be, and certainly isn’t much of a monolith.
@francisconikotian2326
@francisconikotian2326 9 күн бұрын
some of this are actually funny
@irvingberlin-o8h
@irvingberlin-o8h 5 күн бұрын
absolutely no one on earth has homophobia.... homoaedia but not phobia .
@user-uf5nv5cb3b
@user-uf5nv5cb3b 9 күн бұрын
PANGBORN! PANGBORN! PANGBORN!
@amafirenze-vi1uh
@amafirenze-vi1uh Ай бұрын
In most of the clips, no queer was harmed😊
@dgm2485
@dgm2485 21 күн бұрын
Early inclusivity, I say
@ana-dv7jb
@ana-dv7jb 4 күн бұрын
These are the men I'm into
@user-dr4mv9wm9r
@user-dr4mv9wm9r Ай бұрын
Women don’t act that way
@michaelmcgee8543
@michaelmcgee8543 5 күн бұрын
Homosexuality is still illegal in a different style today.
@Mr.happy689
@Mr.happy689 4 күн бұрын
I'm proud to say I am illegal in 40 countries
@womanishthing1994
@womanishthing1994 22 күн бұрын
Stewie
@johnbrowneyes7534
@johnbrowneyes7534 Ай бұрын
Play nice!
@asirf.3634
@asirf.3634 Ай бұрын
Who is Mr Skinner omg, hes so fine
@Benenzini
@Benenzini 27 күн бұрын
C. Henry Gordon, "Hell's Highway"
@twsbibanghorn7343
@twsbibanghorn7343 21 күн бұрын
The limp wrist
@danityvanityinsanity
@danityvanityinsanity Ай бұрын
This is how men really are if they’re allowed to be!😃👍✨💖✨
@haydn60
@haydn60 20 күн бұрын
I was sorry you left out the sissy's transformation into a monster in the Soda Squirts cartoon, as it's the best part. The whole film is on KZbin. Wuhu!
@RingsideRebel785
@RingsideRebel785 Ай бұрын
Gorgeous George=📺
@kerryberman609
@kerryberman609 6 күн бұрын
Yikes ! Add this to the stereotype of African and indigenous people…let’s not forget Charlie Chan…. Not a good vibe America :-/
@Mr.happy689
@Mr.happy689 4 күн бұрын
Okay black face was messed up But... The sisy ones... 🥰
@danielfox3003
@danielfox3003 Ай бұрын
Over the top annoying, that hasn’t changed.
@BlueBeetle1939
@BlueBeetle1939 18 күн бұрын
Fun
@zachm6145
@zachm6145 Ай бұрын
Well that is the way Gays are today..no difference. Kinda sad really. Men without masculinity. I am old school Gay.....from the Rock Hudson days.
@TheDoctor1225
@TheDoctor1225 Ай бұрын
As a gay friend of mine once said to me, "I was born with balls. I'll act like I have them, not like a woman." Sounds like the two of you think much alike. As I said in a post above, "effeminate flamer" doesn't equal "homosexual" and never has. One is a choice of who you give your affections to, just as everyone does. The other is an act.
@applesandgrapesfordinner4626
@applesandgrapesfordinner4626 21 күн бұрын
Everyone has preferences. Sometimes it's a mix of both. We shouldn't downplay others because they don't share what we like.
@jsl151850b
@jsl151850b Ай бұрын
*See also Joe E. Brown's 'The Tenderfoot'. Performers dressed as fancy cowboys from a stage show enter a diner....* *"They may be cowboys but they ain't from Texas!" (1932, just before the Hayes Code Restrictions)* kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJmYdZhmZd2tmtk
@isabellaBella66
@isabellaBella66 Ай бұрын
Yeah..But no one knows what they really did ! 😵 ha ha ha😄
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