THE SIXTH TRIAL - Let's Play - Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony - Part 25

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[@WeebyNewz]

(Slight spoilers for the video) I feel like I have a lot of thoughts regarding the ending I didn’t get to express very well in the video, I think my brain melted around the 3 hour mark from all the insanity. I’m still going back and forth on it and I’m not really sure whether I like the ending or not. I think I’ll do a review of the game soon and give my opinions regarding everything then. I did still really love this game regardless though. A lot of you guys have requested games to LP in the future too and I appreciate all the requests! I’ll let you guys know what I decide to LP next in the next couple weeks. Also I’ll try to keep you guys posted on when I do the V3 postgame live streams too, I’m planning on doing them on KZbin rather than Twitch as well so you can just keep an eye out on here for that. I’m going out of town for Christmas and won’t be able to do any gameplay capture videos so if I post over the next couple weeks it’ll probably only be either the review for the game and/or my reaction to that prediction video I made forever ago. Basically, I might not be posting a whole lot over the next couple weeks but I don’t want any of you to think I’m dead or anything. Anyways, thanks to everyone who watched this Let’s Play, I had a blast!

[@KidSnivy69]

Hope you enjoyed the mindfuck!

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Weeby Newz A fun fact: Junko Enoshima actually holds the world record for Most Popular Cosplay. Makes V3's ending make a lot more sense as a meta commentary, huh?

[@Anon893]

Rip Weeby's brain

[@ImamuraCross]

Wow, what a journey it's been :O I wanna watch this so badly, but I'm at work, nuuuuuuu... Either way, congratulations, Weeby! I'll be excited to hear what you think :D

[@jeffreyastudillo8851]

Weeby, if you're going to play Doki Doki next, keep your game files open and do not skip text, also try thinking of them like the dangan ronpa twilight syndrome girls

[@alphax-shroom6781]

Fun fact: Tsumugi is the only character who is against your side in every single scum debate as shuichi. But she is with you when you were kaede after she lies to help you lead everyone away from the truth.

[@alphax-shroom6781]

Nope Nope Dammit, auto correct you win again!!! But I will have my revenge, mark my words.

[@Apanovi]

Alpha X-shroom yeah and Miu is as far as I know the only character who appears in more than 1 trial who is NEVER on your side (not even as Kaede)

[@annmaeri1591]

Alpha X-shroom wow I never noticed

[@KidSnivy69]

Meanwhile is K1-B0 always on Kaede's and Shuichi's side since the audience is pushing for hope (I think)

[@thomasvagenes8137]

Except in chapter 5, which is actually the one where shuichi is wrong

[@maddlad_l5257]

>Keebs is the Audience's Camera >Millions of people saw Miu's shit

[@CaptainFrisby]

Let's be honest, she probably would've liked that

[@StyvenVelko]

Definitely a world where the FCC doesnt exist. Kids watching killing games and "sex".

[@undercoverfbi3155]

Wow it’s true 🤣

[@funnyvalentine160]

good

[@Eweiit]

If you recall, Tsumugi freaked out about it.

[@rapidshade5413]

So..... Makoto: Most of my friends died but my waifu lived! Hajime: My friends got resurrected but my waifu died! Shuichi: ......"cries" Damn I feel bad for Shuichi

[@annlee2737]

If you include Munakata... Munakata: Its okay bro I lost my waifu and my friends but I got this cool eyepatch!

[@Monobrobe]

Shuichi: My waifu died but I have a harem!

[@minhle-qd8qf]

a tsundere and a loli can't make a harem...

[@Monobrobe]

minh le Eh, semantics.

[@primus0348]

Rapidshade541 what a bitter calling I knew it was a lie the moment I saw it obviously but it was intriguing nonetheless -Springtrap 2017 I bet springtrap was watching this before fnaf 6

[@lorddampnut5275]

- Ahoge ✔️ - waifu ✔️ - socially awkward ✔️ - said "Junko Enoshima is dead" ✔️ Kay guys it's official. Shuichi is now a true DR protagonist. He's finally met all the qualifications to be one.

[@blume9787]

JOHNKNEE

[@kled788]

What made them DR protagonists Makoto: *11037* Hinata: *meat on the bone* Shuichi: *I'll drink some tea and calm down*

[@shiibwrry]

@@kled788 Meat on the bone: Meat on the bone Bone on the meat Bone on meat the Meat the bone on Meat on bone the Bone the meat on On the meat bone On the bone meat The on bone meat The on meat bone On meat bone the On bone meat the *i have no idea what i'm doing*

[@kyokokirigiri9010]

@@kled788 *Hope*

[@kazuhamybeloved6156]

You forgot one - no that's wrong ✔️

[@GuiGui2901]

Kodaka: "I know the perfect way to finish this series: LET'S SEE IF WE CAN BREAK THE FIFTH WALL, BOYS!!!"

[@ninjaydes]

Since the academy has spherical walls, the *infinitieth* wall was actually broken. o.o

[@jeffreyastudillo8851]

The actual 5th wall gets broken when characters start manipulating stuff that should be out of their control, even then, it's the creator that does that, not the actual character, unless you install an AI into them that gives them that power, but that could be dangerous as it could break the final wall more easily if there are no set boundaries

[@secala5540]

@@jeffreyastudillo8851 soooooooo......ddlc??

[@RenKium]

What fifth wall?

[@あきら-v7h]

Deadpool: I can break the 4th wall Kodaka: Hold my monokuma plushie

[@EJ-db5pm]

2:41:25 Isn't it funny how Leon is talking about the letter is actually a number, when the complete opposite happened in his trial where numbers were actually letters

[@gh-zr5ht]

Holy crap!! I didn't notice that!

[@KidSnivy69]

A lot the easter eggs in this game are like that!

[@darthangel310]

This comment needs 11037 likes.

[@EJ-db5pm]

Adam Possiel almost there

[@LeonGun8]

They were very deliberate on who said which lines in that way. For example, Sakura was given the lines about throwing away their lives and them comitting suicide for no purpose (obviously in reference to her Class Trial).

[@BossALKENO]

Spoilers: Tsugumi’s actress was not told she was the mastermind until she read the lines for this scene, so if it seems like she’s really good at hiding it, that’s why.

[@667nine]

Really?

[@camerynesperanza3454]

That’s actually pretty cool

[@sardonicus1739]

Another interesting fun fact about Tsumugi's character, its subtle, but if you replay the game knowing Tsumugi is the mastermind, you'll notice that she doesn't once show genuine emotions throughout the game in her sprites. While other characters emotions are clear, such as anger and depression and crying, Tsumugi gives the same limited expressions in which none of them reaches her eyes, which remain cold and unchanging in expression. This is especially interesting in Japanese culture as they focus a lot on eyes when it comes to expressing emotion when compared to the western world which focuses more on the mouth. Part of why Japanese emotes focus more on the eyes with things like ^_^ rather than :).

[@shaowgamerxt101]

DR 1: Hi 4th Wall. DR 2: Hello 4th Wall. 4th Wall: Oh hi there. DR3: What ever I don’t care. 4th Wall: Oh hi DRV3. What are you doing with that Sledgehammer ????????????????????????????????????????????????????? DRV3: I’m destroying every last piece of you and after that I am going to put all your pieces into a space ship headed straight for the sun!

[@o_o_o_o_o-o_o_o_o_o]

but during the journey, the 16 biggest pieces participate in a killing game

[@Karlthuluu]

What's nice about this ending is just what Shuichi said, that we don't know if Tsumugi lied or told the truth.There are a lot of contradictions that I will list here: - Tsumugi could have easily forged those audition tapes. She could have cosplayed as Shuichi, Kaede and Kaito and said all those things. We even see the wooden floor in her ultimate lab that are from the tapes. It is also filmed from an awkward angle so we only can see the floor. - The same could easily be done with Rantaro's video. - When looking back at the beginning, before they received their fake memories, Shuichi clearly introduced himself as Shuichi Saihara, so why would they need to bleep out his name in the audition tape? - Furthermore, Kaede tells us in the same scene that she was forcibly kidnapped, and it made her remember how "rotten" the world is. Doesn't sound like a peaceful world without any war or conflict doesn't it? There are many more clues that clearly contradicts Tsumugi's story about the world, but in the end, we don't know. It's all up to the players perspective. Anyway, I think this is the perfect ending. It truly captures the "Truth and Lies" theme and even makes the player (you and me) fall into despair. There are many people I have talked with who really hate this ending, aka, people who have fallen into despair. I was one of those people at first, but then I analyzed the ending more and now I really appreciate it! But after all, the message behind this game is beautiful. Even if something is a lie, even if Danganronpa is fiction, it has the power to change people. Even if you know by heart that the whole series is fiction, the characters still warms your heart and has changed you as a person, and that is the true meaning behind the game. Also, since the game is the 53rd iteration, there is A LOT more room for new games (between Danganronpa 10-53) while not making anything noncanon. V3 will still be the last game, timeline wise, but sating that there is not any room for more games IS A LIE! Sorry about all the rambling, but I really wanted to tell you how I felt about the games ending and what I got out from it. tldr; There is more to the ending that meets the eye

[@eric7798]

I disagree only with Rantaro's video because if it was the truth, one of the next games could just have him as a protaganist, don't you think? (furthermore, he's also a fan's favorite) That way it'd mean the video of him was real.

[@Karlthuluu]

True, but speculation wise I would like it if Tsumugi forged the video to manipulate Rantaro's actions or make the game more interesting. Also, if we did have a new Danganronpa with him as protagonist, wouldn't we already know how it would end? It's an interesting thought tho.

[@cah137-y4s]

For me, there are two HUGE contradictions that make me absolutely convinced Tsumugi was lying about the outside world. One of them happens during the investigation in Chapter 1: the scene with Kaede and Tsumugi in the bathroom. In that scene, Tsumugi breaks out in cospox because she attempts to cosplay as Kaede...but wait, didn't she spend an entire section of the final trial insisting that her fellow students are just fictional characters? Shouldn't she have been able to cosplay Kaede just fine? Also, she asks Kaede to turn around so she has time to change...but as we see in Case 6, Tsumugi can literally change clothes _and appearances_ faster than the human eye can follow, and has no problem doing so in front of a live TV audience. So what's up with that? The only idea that makes sense to me is that the entire "cospox" thing was fake (because seriously, how the fuck can you be allergic to cosplaying as real people?!), and it was all a setup to convince Shuichi and the others that Hope's Peak must be fictional because she can cosplay as DR1 and DR2 characters. The second actually happens all the way back in the prologue. There are actually three small details that add up to this one. First, as the OP pointed out, Kaede and Shuichi both introduced themselves by their character names right off the bat; and since the audition tape suggests that "Shuichi Saihara" wasn't Shuichi's real name, that would suggest something sketchy is going on. Then there's the kidnapping; aside from what the OP pointed out about remembering how "rotten" the world was (sweet catch, BTW, I totally missed that!), why would they have to kidnap students who'd _auditioned_ for the show? Remember, this is a show everyone in the world watches; Team Danganronpa would probably spend *months* hyping up the new season, promoting the new characters in order to get people excited (you know, like Spike Chunsoft did). This isn't just suspicious, it's flat-out bad marketing on Team DR's part. And finally, that flashback during the epilogue showing the characters being excited? That scene doesn't happen. It's not like the scene just went on longer than expected; the scene of Kaede and the others being happy would have to occur BETWEEN two other lines of dialogue. So either there's some _Zero Time Dilemma_ levels of camera fuckery happening, or- as Kokichi Oma would say- "IT'S A LIE!" And honestly, I feel this would be the _perfect_ culmination of the truth and lies theme that the rest of the story is building up. Having *the twist itself* ultimately turn out to be a lie to be exposed in the next game? _That_ would be a surprise for the ages. But hey, I guess we'll ultimately just have to wait until the next game or anime to be sure.

[@MerriBelle]

I agree with those points but Kaede talking about how rotten the world does kinda sound like the her on the audition tape. Oh another thing about Rantaro. Why did he remember the ultimate hunt before everyone else? Like I do not remember him mentioning it on the survivor perk, so why would he remember that without a flash back light? Oh also Rantaro clearly was able to tell that this was going to be a killing game in the prologue. But if everyone had auditioned for it why wouldn't anyone catch on that it was that besides him?

[@Karlthuluu]

Rantaro knowing about the ultimate hunt was because of the survivor perk. He doesn't mention it in the video but it is written in the survivor perk pad. It says "If you don't believe me I will predict something: The first thing you will remember is the ultimate hunt." which means that Rantaro only knew of the name, not what it actually was, and that's why he asked if anyone knew about it.

[@maddlad_l5257]

Seriously, the theme to this entire game was "lies." We're never sure about this ending and it's legitimacy. Some fans got up in arms about this ending, taking all the lies at face-value and not questioning them whatsoever. We had a single character that did nothing but hammer in the idea that we shouldn't be 100% sure about anything being told to us.

[@Gerudo_King]

HEP Labs FINALLY! I’M NOT TGE ONLY ONE WHO REALIZED THIS

[@etherealmayhem8652]

So many one track minded people out there,it's infuriating that so many people never just stop to think about something before jumping to conclusions... Kodaka may have something here lol

[@TheInfinityOwl]

The problem is that it's lazy as fuck "eeeh you guys figure out the ending to our game, fuck it." Ouma did the lying theme justice, this ending used it as an excuse.

[@jabbajacks]

That's the crux of it. It's not satisfying, it's frustrating. It's tossing a bone of truth in with the piles of lies, and expecting you to come up with the true narrative yourself. And when people in the fanbase don't even agree on what that truth even IS, how is a constructive dialogue supposed to happen?

[@jabbajacks]

Additionally, it would be reeeeeeeally helpful if SOME of you would cease and desist with 'just jumping to conclusions', and maybe listen to the problems people have with the conclusion without being pretentious arseholes about it. That would be wonderful.

[@FranK-tg7ou]

How can Danganronpa be real if our eyes aren't real

[@guinntalks]

:thinking:

[@MarMarital]

Not Frank Jack Gamer ARE U SECRETALY JAIDEN MAKI!!!!

[@The1andonlysharpshooter]

Im really confused this question is tripping me up

[@LuminousIris]

Can you see your eyes? How do you know that the person in the mirror or reflection is you? Or rather, is that just some trick that the brain does? Are you real? WHAT!?

[@mordeterragon7895]

.....do you want to die?

[@KaiserKai16]

Keep in mind that we have no reason to believe Tsumugi. All the evidence Tsumugi shows to prove that Danganronpa is fiction could be fabricated easily with enough resources, Flashback Lights, and Blackout Lights. Plus, if Hope's Peak didn't exist, then Tsumugi's Ultimate Talent makes no sense.

[@kristianperez4108]

You also have no reason to not believe her, there's literally no way to know either way,

[@crowwithashortcake]

Angelogisaintity if you play through the prologue again, itll clear some things up. though tsumugis talent could still make sense imo considering the level the others talents were at

[@serp892]

kristian perez She lies about everyone and how they were before since she describes a different prologue than what was shown at the beginning of the game. Her story starts to fall apart from that

[@kamronspencer4910]

Angelogisaintity hopes peak doesn’t exist but people would still know about it because of the video game series and all team danganronps would have to do is give her a modified flashback light with cosplay skills in it to give her her talent

[@KaiserKai16]

Exactly. And karmon, Hope's Peak probably does exist. There are no such things as Ultimate Talents in the real world, but if that's true, Tsumugi talent has to be fictitious as well. She even says that Tsumugi was a character she made up, but that contradicts a lot of things about what she says later.

[@dannaroseronquillo9268]

What some people miss is that when this game refer to the audience, they don't talk about us. They talk about the audience in *their* universe. So this game doesn't berate us for being fans at all. A proof of this is the fact that Team Danganronpa doesn't really exist in *our* world. They're fictional. They're only real in *that* world. If they are referring to us here, they should have made the production company "Spike Chunsoft". In short, the game broke the 4th wall but kept the 5th wall on, I guess. XD I wanna know what their outside world looks like to be honest. Despite it being "peaceful" compared to the outside world in the Hope's Peak Saga, it seems like it's in and of itself a different kind of dystopian society.

[@Rage_WinterchiIl]

its said to be peaceful, but that doesn't line up with "kaede's" "audition tape" where she says she doesnt have any faith in humanity. if there was no war or despair and everything was peaceful... what reason is there to have no faith in humanity...?

[@Abyzz_Knight]

@@Rage_WinterchiIl everyone is obsessed with killing games of course. Even though the world is peaceful she sees the world as sick and depraved.

[@Keihzaru]

I think the whole point of this flew right past your head in all instances.

[@AceTrainerLupi]

Looking at all of those things, I would say the world might actually be peaceful but since they are teenagers, they rebel against it. Team Danganronpa saw this and started Danganronpa as a way to satisfy them. Like in "Purge", to keep society happy, they started organising killing games and since it was bringing huge profit and popularity, they continued it, each time with a bigger budget. First game was at studio aranged as a school, second was on an island, maybe Danganronpa 34 really was in space, but it seems like at some point they set up at one place - The Ultimate Academy for Gifted Juveniles, isolated from the outside world. In my country, there are things called "patostreams", which basically are livestreams on which people drink alcohol, swear, sometimes even beat their friends and family and people, especially young, really enjoy watching them, because they seem funny. Also a lot of teenagers watch vulgar streamers more than cultural ones since they seem cooler. Maybe this is where our world goes. One day something unthinkable might be completely normal. Since more nudity is allowed, vulgar language is acceptable, sometimes not even censored then maybe, one day, fighters will come back to the death fights, maybe Danganronpa is our future. Well, at least we will be prepared, in some way.

[@DiddyBohlen]

People also tend to ignore the fact that it was literally Danganronpa 53. People became so obsessed with it that games and anime turned into a reality show with brainwashing. I saw the ending as a way of saying to not overdo something to the point where it goes too far. It was a reminder to both the developers and fans that there needs to be an end.

[@PrimoItoko]

I really liked how the characters were used on situations they would speak, like Makoto moving the plot foward and Kyoko and Chiaki explaining things.

[@toastofcatbread3207]

Another one I noticed was Gundham objecting more often when Shuichi brought up the idea of committing suicide to stop Danganronpa. I guess Tsumugi really deserves that title of Ultimate Cosplayer

[@KidSnivy69]

And Nagito talking about hope and the class of V3 not being Ultimates.

[@rhythm3175]

“Even though everything is fiction, it’s all still meaningful” (paraphrased) I love this game’s motto

[@SilvarusLupus]

Thank you for understanding this.

[@XxAJxX-qp1qp]

It's not meaningful if it's all fake in their world

[@kchandayco2372]

We dont know for sure if its all fake but even if it is all fake if it can still change the world ,if it can make somone feel whether they hate it or love it than that fake can just be as meaning full as a the truth after all thats what fiction is all about.The death of your favorite character can make you upset.A plot twist can make you go “Wow”.An evil character can make you go “man im mad”.The characters you wanted to get together happening can make you happy .fiction can change reality just as well as the truth can.A lie that can bring hope and a truth that can bring despair both are just as meaningfull as the other both can change peoples lives wether it has helped you through a dark time or just entertain you thats proof enough how meaning full it is

[@kchandayco2372]

Like the charecters themselves say it doesnt matter where the truth ends and where the lies begin if this fiction can change something at all whether the outside world has gained or loss something if this fiction can change anything than its still meaning full all their friends death all their struggles even if it was fictional they still grew and developed its still real to them so yes it does have meaning even if it isnt meaning full for us but rather meaning full to them than still has meaning in the end so yeah even if its fake its still meaning full

[@kchandayco2372]

Sorry for the long rant but im an aspiring writer and fiction has had an meaningfull place in my heart that has shaped who i am today.Even if its fictional it still helped shaped who i am it still helped me get through tough times

[@samanthalietzan3262]

When it switched to being Keebo, all i heard was "The ahoge has spoken!"

[@ROT695]

SnowFox It switched to them all in the end though. I was hoping every time it switched character a bit of hair would flick up haha

[@monilanham5222]

*THE AHOGE HAS SPOKEN-*

[@Kitama23]

Remember everyone, the point(especially in japan) is that how fiction makes you feel is valuable and it should inform your life based off of interpreting it's message. But fiction should not be your purpose and your life itself. Your life is yours and you should live it and experience it for your sake. I think. Also please let kodaka do something else if he wants.

[@artart2038]

Kitama23 No. We won't let him

[@artart2038]

Uchiha Itachi Same, but for him to do this is a big middle finger towards the fans

[@makiroll218]

Uchiha Itachi it was a big fuck you to the fans 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕

[@CABRALFAN27]

I feel like I would've liked V3 better if it wasn't tied to the Hope's Peak Saga.

[@Mirza00023]

I think he wanted to educate us. Thank you Mr. Kodaka

[@idlethoughts8352]

For whatever reason, I’m kind of interested in the idea of a Danganronpa V2 anime; like a prequel anime that covers the events of the killing game Rantarou survived. Especially considering it would have the dramatic irony of us knowing what resolution it would lead to.

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

IdleThoughts Would certainly be interesting to see if Tsumugi was still the mastermind and actively participating or if she poses as a different fictional character Maybe she uses the loophole of cosplaying as OCs?

[@soul7168]

IdleThoughts that would be pretty lit

[@temple5587]

I dunno wouldn't it be a bit jarring? it's like watching a persons last day of life before they die.

[@akira5710]

@@temple5587 it could be an interesting novel idea though. Imagine if the 52nd Killing Game was the first physical one of Team Danganronpa.

[@xenophacilus5895]

Getting attached to a new batch of characters and only knowing Rantaro is the only one with plot armor?.... Puhuhuhuhu, the despair

[@GenetMJF]

SPOILERS . . . . . . I love it how there is one person in the audience who seems to be a HUGE Shuichi fan. They keep saying weird things about shuichi. It starts innocent but gets darker and darker. First." Shuichi is my husbando."" Shuichi

[@jupiter3809]

I CONSENT WITH THAT

[@mayamaya6182]

✿MJF✿ WHOEVER THIS IS, PLEASE STOP! THEY ARE FICTIONAL

[@kaz5996]

Ikr!! I saw one that said “Shuichi looks yummy

[@RenKium]

Omfg. These fans are insane!

[@easyr5303]

I think they also said "shuichi looks yummy

[@iqiqiqrex9880]

hey, at least your friends technically weren't lying about the stories not being connected...

[@mujiescomedy279]

iqiqiqrex it doesn't matter if they lie. Lie to keep them spoiler free.

[@cuac232]

Mujtaba Walji Well, it ended up being the truth. They kept her spoiler-free about the fake twist without actually lying. That is something.

[@RenaDeles]

I always tend to frame it myself as V3 isn't Canon to dr1-3, but dr1-3 are canon to V3 in some form. I personally tend to assume the events of the previous games etc did actually have been and time has passed and this is some project by someone out there. Frankly I could see a lot of AIs involved in running things and maybe Monica being one of the original creators but now it's mostly AI's running things on their own.

[@rhythm3175]

Fun fact: This ending seems rather blunt, but when you examine things closely, it begins to fall apart. Yes, that’s right, it’s _all lies_. 1. Shuichi and the others *remember their names during the prologue*, even though it’s implied that they originally have different names. 2. Kaede and Shuichi originally *clearly remember being kidnapped*. 3. The prologue also shows that *the events don’t line up the way Tsumugi says they do*. Essentially, something is *clearly incorrect* about how the cast entered this killing game. Also, *we can’t be sure the cospox is real*. That could be a lie too. We can clearly see Tsumugi is skilled enough to make cospox seem real in that short a span of time. Finally, there’s that line about this all being a giant copy. Essentially, there’s more here than we don’t know. There were a lot of lies mixed in with the truth, and it’s up to us to guess what is real or fiction. ...well, at least until the next game.

[@annlee2737]

Yeah I heard that if you go through the prologue again you can tell some of Tsumugi's lies apart

[@satoshi-raven]

Probably next game in 3-4 years i think.

[@Elbon-the-Lolinator]

Allison Lee Yes, Kodaka did mention that you should replay the prologue after finishing the game. Heck, I didn't even need to, just from memories alone and the game's theme of truth and lies I was able to see that she was lying....*a lot.*

[@baldipogchamp8926]

So I’ve been beaned not once (Tsumugi), not twice (Kaede), not three times (Junko/Not Junko but cosplay), or four (HOPE DESPAIR HOPE DESPAIR HOPE DESPAIR), but FIVE TIMES?

[@AndHerLeeches]

I have a theory. The theory is: In DR:V3 the killing game takes place in a VR Simulation like in DR2. Hints that it's all a VR Simulation: - The outfit change à la Sailor Moon in the Prologue. You all remember Monomi turning that chicken into a moo-cow? That's it. It was out of this world, and it had a reason to be like that. The Sailor Moon transformation? Of course it's a hint. It can't just be Comic Relief. - The 'transfer student' motive. It just seems so silly and irrealistic - what was Monokuma trying to accomplish, there? They would have tried the ritual, failed... and then what? Nothing would have happened. But think about it from a VR perspective: you take the revived student data, put it back into the killing game and... ta-da! There's a wild card in the group - if it was someone who was killed, he would be wary of everyone and probably try to kill someone to escape and avoid being killed again. If it was a killer - imagine the tension in the group. It would have been really *interesting* for an audience watching: we would have found it interesting, wouldn't we? - Korekiyo's execution. I know the execution are rarely realistic; but those in DR1 were, if you don't count the ending of Mondo's execution, of course. In DR2, they were crazy and all over the place, and that's ok because they were in a Simulation. But this is the first time that we have an execution that keeps punishing someone's soul *after* they died. How the hell would that have worked in a reality tv show? CGI, maybe. But it just really bugged me. - Miu's VR World. In a world so technologically advanced, one would think that a VR simulator like that would have been much more futuristic and realistic. But it's kinda retro in its style. If it were a simulator inside a simulator, it makes sense that it would have had to require a lot less 'ram' to be run. It's a program inside a really complicated program - they would have had to 'cut' the consume. I also have another theory that kinda says that there is no reality tv show either... but I gotta play/watch again before writing that one.

[@BlueCrimson10]

And now we know why all the voice actors are from previous Danganronpa games. Well, one of the reasons.

[@kenikeni9912]

BlueCrimson10 yep. It's for the chapter 6 twist

[@hibiki8473]

The funny thing about the Japanese version of the main cast only 1 character returned the Japanese chihiro voice voiced miu but they did get all the orriginals for there old characters

[@silentingrid6602]

Shuichi: I know how we can figure out who is the mastermind! Ki-bo: How? Shuichi: Only a true Danganronpa hero has loved a Waifu or Husbando and lost them. So by process of elimination…. Maki: Kaito… I promise I will not let your sacrifice go in vain! Ki-bo: Miu… You might had your faults, but you had a hidden innocence within you. Himiko: Kokichi, you told me you liked me.. Maki: Don't you mean Tenko…and that was Kaito pretending to be Kokichi!! Himiko: Oh yeah. Her too… Shuichi: And we all know about me and…. Kaede. So that leaves.. Tsumugi: Wait, I did have a Husbando…ummmm, well there was Gonta… Himiko: But everybody liked Gonta, and weren't exactly romantic. Tsumugi: Then Rantaro... Maki: You didn't even like him!! Tsumugi: ………Shuichi? Shuichi: I didn't even did your free time advents. Tsumugi: Dammit, Shuichi!! I went out of way to have Kaede killed and you never considered making your Waifu… I mean…Um Everybody: 0_0 Tsumugi: Shit! Yes! Fine! I am the mastermind!!!

[@aurelior1000]

This is pure gold.

[@16Sarunn16]

Best comment ever Must save it as a screen to meme it all over the internet

[@Nickkkk043]

YESSS

[@dylanw9911]

To be fair, Tsumugi defending Gonta all the time, seeming to genuinely like him as he is, and still talking about him in Chapter 5 was incredibly cute. Too bad she is a serpent. :/

[@Zack_Zander]

Maki reaction to Himiko mistaking Kaito as Kokichi is hilarious

[@hersheltriton6120]

Notice how all the danganronpa characters tsumugi "cosplayed" as have v on their right eyes and 3 on the other. Also victory 3 means...... The 3 survivors

[@cristalat101]

She HAD TO DO MY HUSBANDO

[@lost4miles475]

About that first part V3 is just tsumugi’s contacts

[@annlee2737]

A Danganronpa game about Rantaro's killing game would be awesome to play! I just want to know more about avocado man

[@annlee2737]

@Space_Wolf It can easily be twisted though since a participant moving onto another game (almost like its a part two) can be written without seeming like a predictable or unnecessary prequel.

[@djneonreaper4990]

That's a good idea!! Since now a sequel will be almost impossible (or is it? Kaito says nothing is impossible...) a prequel about avocado will be perfect!

[@mia-jt7kq]

tbh we heard nothing about a second person living so perhaps rantaro Is a murderer who so happen to get everyone to vote the wrong person

[@Kjf365]

The second person is Tsumugi. That's the "thing about that rule" Rantaro mentioned in the video.

[@mi-chanlactosefreemagmite]

Kodaka wasnt lying, this game has no connection to the others, is another universe, its obvious. So stop the "all the characters in all the games are fiction".

[@kamronspencer4910]

Deku The Madman I mean technically they are fiction because you know danganronpa is a video game series they were always fictional. But I get what you mean and understand that some fans entirely wrongly feel this ruins the previous games

[@ItzShaunHere]

Actually, if you think about it, all those files in Shuichi's Ultimate Lab we're from the past 52 killing games. No seriously, count them, there are exactly 52 files. Maki stated that the first few files were illustrations while the rest are photographs. Technically, yes, all these characters are fiction, but it is "True Fiction" in DanganRonpa 1-3 (I'd say it's 1-10) and some time then, DanganRonpa transferred to "Ultimate Real Fiction" in the earlier stages of the show. (hence my estimation of the transition happening during DR11) If it really has no connection to the first three, then why is it clumped with the other 49 files?

[@XxAJxX-qp1qp]

But they are, the other games have no value now because of this bullshit dumbass retarded thing of an ending

[@gratiaseia]

@@XxAJxX-qp1qp what do you mean "no value"? The final trial literally says that fiction can change the real world. It doesn't matter if they're fictional, what matters is the impact that they caused.

[@juanolarte2332]

Welp. It would have been if they didnt make that nasty connection.

[@quasilesbianghostkiller]

the bonus games are just therapy sessions

[@oswald3845]

Indeed 😰

[@shiibwrry]

Well I need to play a lot of them after watching too much Danganronpa

[@himedere3866]

Yeh 🤩

[@lautaro.O.L.]

And Shuichi's love hotel scene with Kaede is morphine

[@ninjaydes]

R.I.P. the deceased. *Strategies that Failed to End the Killing Game* i. Death Road of Despair ii. fighting Monokuma iii. (Kaede) killing the Mastermind deaths: Kaede, Rantaro iv. (Angie) peaceful Student Council v. (Kokichi) controlling the killing game as a pseudo-Mastermind deaths: Gonta, Miu vi. (Kokichi) “winning" the killing game; assuming that an audience would prevent the true Mastermind from breaking rules deaths: Kokichi

[@annlee2737]

Kaito was also kind of repercussion for Kokichi's last plan(though he probably would've died either way).

[@hadisaputra7068]

Cinnamontoastken: they're doing a good job pissing off their fans WeebyNewz: oh, this is so cool XD

[@cuac232]

That guy is an idiot. He just wanted to complain about anything that happened because I have no idea.

[@iqiqiqrex9880]

Right? I'm usually not one to badmouth people, but... "Shuichi is the worst character ever." "These murders would NEVER work in real life!" "Kaito's such an idiot, I'm so happy he died." I also don't think he really understands character development. And then he has the nerve to accuse the devs of not trying to make this game good, just because he didn't enjoy it...

[@knarrow0222]

Words cannot describe how much Ken' playthrough sucks. He says that the game tries to piss of third fans......except I am a fan and I thought that ending is awesome.

[@danielwhite3244]

if you dont like the game or the ending, fine, but he is such an asshole about it that it pisses me off. he can speak for the fans that this game sucks but as a fan i love the game and the twist

[@Apanovi]

Hadi Saputra i also hated how he sometimes basically skipped dialogue because it didn’t interest him, like why do you play a game thats 95% dialogue if you’re gonna hate on that aspect? Don’t even get me started on his Kaito bashing. I stopped watching his playtrough and switched to this one. I much prefer Weebys and Nicos playtrough, at least those 2 are able to critique the game while still enjoying it

[@RavingRaven887]

Junko enoshima is the most cosplayed character even the mastermind cosplays as her.

[@KidSnivy69]

Tea Lover Yes

[@vipeurmiste512]

And so Shirogane's Wild Ride begins. I was completely overwhelmed initially when playing this trial and wasn't sure what to think about the ending. But after I sat on it and tried to understand it more, I really like this ending. Might even be my favourite Danganronpa ending, I loved the moments like literally not playing the game in order to progress and seeing the old characters again. It tore my heart out the most too. I'm so thankful for this franchise, the characters it's created and the emotions it's made me feel.

[@pebbie510]

Couldn't express me more

[@929kviews9]

True dedication- me played the game nonstop without any sleep

[@rosesabi5005]

You know what true dedication is when you make a 4 hour video with commentary and everything

[@Nickkkk043]

Furret 30 The Furret yes making the video buffer for ever is dedication

[@jakebowen6856]

Furret 30 The Furret Who needs truth? Who needs lies? Who needs hope? Who needs Despair? When you’ve got Dedication. ...DEDICATION GOTTA SWEAR THE OATH

[@DaiDidStuff]

This ending is so damn great! Every time I rewatch the trial, I find new little tidbits that make the ending better for me. The message of how fiction can change people's thoughts and feeling is conveyed so well and considering how by the end of the trial I went from wanting more Danganronpa to being totally content if this was the last one, it did its job pretty well. Even if all of Danganronpa is just fiction, the stories still effected people which doesn't make them any less real and that's pretty cool. If this is truly Kodakas last DR, damn good job to him!

[@superbowyiming]

Remember once up on a time, Bible was the biggest fiction that literally affected the reality a lot...

[@ShinyAitch_]

If you look back at the photos from the first class trial, more specifically the floor plan photo that showed Kaede's path of books from the vent. You'll notice that the exit for the shot put ball doesn't allign with Rantaro's body and the camera.

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Shiny Aitch_2634 Even better, look at the bloodstain pattern and trace the impact droplets to the center and you'll see that the bloodstain pattern suggests Rantaro was standing up straight when he was killed instead of bent over to inspect the camera Additionally, you may also notice the inside of Rantaro's hand doesn't have blood on it while the outside does... just like Nagito's hand in SDR2, and for the same reason

[@667nine]

@@NotAGoodUsername360 GOD DAMMIT WHY DIDN'T WE NOTICE THAT SOONER

[@walrus640]

Tsumugi: "I can cosplay the world itself!" *transforms into Earth-chan*

[@a23chaotic]

Finally! Ok so i wanted to tell you about a really neat easter egg in shuichi’s lab since trial 4, if you check the bookshelf with all the case files you’ll see there are 52 cases, and apperantly only the first couple of them are illustration and the rest are actual photos, so if we follow that logic shuichi had in his lab all the murders and maybe executions of all the previos Danganronpa, i thought this was pretty interesting but a huge spoiler, anyways thanks for the hard work weeby! Loved to see you react to this awesome game!

[@annlee2737]

Alxw23 Ikr. I noticed it the second time round and found it to be a really neat tidbit.

[@bluips2945]

That's a cool fact...

[@SuperS0nic644]

Another fun easter egg is, during Tsumugis introduction she says her favourite episode of Doraemon is the 53rd episode.

[@pickyphysicsstudent201]

But if there are 52 cases, then wouldn't that mean that there were only 52 murders across the previous 52 killing games (making it 1 case per game)? Would it just be one case per game each previous killing game?

[@kamronspencer4910]

Picky Psychology Student no it was 52 files not cases each file had multiple murders in it

[@Nickkkk043]

it was shuchi singing the anime opening all along *Reality slips far away* *Fiction comes alive, and we start to play it* *Hope is no more* behind the closed door As we drift away from where we were before *Hope and hopelessness become one* *But it's all meaningless* , we've already begun Yup, we are all one in the same Never opposites, we play the same game So we walk *a thin line between hope and despair* *Running from the truth, but it's already here* *Told so many lies, I don't know if they can find me* Only one life to live, so choose wisely *Head or tails? Do you even know what side you're on?* *Does it really matter if it's on the same coin?* *If you wanna achieve, you gotta believe,* The time's right now, here's the door, here's the keys The search is so very long, we let it fade away There's a ray of hope beyond despair Move on, *look for the truth, in this world (dedication, gotta swear the oath)* Break through the confusion, find a solution Beat the twisted evil things Just do it, go for it, never *(for yourself or do it for your folks)* Break through the confusion, find a solution Beat the twisted evil things Just do it, go for it, never (gotta believe, let's keep hope alive)

[@Knytxless]

shuichi found a music career shortly after leaving the academy, because of how well he sang the caged dog song

[@undercoverfbi3155]

trashcat420 this is a good theory

[@sevii8993]

Freakin' mindblown

[@Zack_Zander]

So what? Despite being the Ultimate Detective, He is also a Ultimate Rapper?

[@poly9345]

Omg

[@seqka711]

Woah, it's so weird that the extra costume stuff started flowing around Junko early because you saved and reset the game. DRV3 has so many stupid bugs, lol. The clothes, wigs and cosplay props flowing around Tsumugi weren't supposed to show up until Tsumugi says "Yes, it's my cosplay."

[@sneeze4100]

Spoilers for the end of the game below. The audition tapes are potentially fake, or they aren't, the entire game works on dichotomies like this. If you replay the prologue, the characters understand who Monokuma is and what Danganronpa is, but it didn't seem as though they consented to participate. So in that case, how were the audition videos created at all? Tsumigi's cosplay lol. It can be argued that the students of Danganronpa V3's previous selves are now fiction, since not even they know who they once were. Therefore, Tsumugi can not cosplay as the characters as they are now, but she could cosplay as their previous selves. If you inspect Tsumugi's lab you'll also find the same area of floor used in the audition videos, as well as cameras. Based on this evidence it's pretty safe to suggest that they were either kidnapped for the show, or believed the show was acted and sent in different auditions. I'd just like to say that although there are many concrete facts we can boil down about V3, the message it left us with is a pretty uplifting one. There are many parallels in the game like fact or fiction, truth and lies, or hope and despair. But it's not about which side you're a part of. Whether it's black or white isn't what's important, what matters is what these actions effect. These things aren't black and white like we're lead to believe. A fictional world is just as good as a real one if it can bring people enjoyment or tell a story that we want people to see. Anyways I've rambled enough, I wish you good luck with your character analysis videos, I think there's a lot more to talk about than you may believe at first.

[@KidSnivy69]

That pretty a sign that Tsumugi has been doing nothing but lying.

[@trixqr7799]

But they didn’t have the v3 in their eyes

[@cuac232]

Okay... I feel obligated to make a comment to clear the misconceptions some people have that make them dislike the ending. >"DR1&2 being fiction cheapens their impact! This ruined the old games!" The initial claim was that DRV3 was a whole new universe/setting. Of course, fans would expect an "it's all actually connected" plot twist, with which they played with in chapter 5&6. However, in the end it was actually true that DRV3 was set in a different continuity. Besides that, though, I see no problem in DR1 & 2 being called "fictional", especially given this ending's powerful "fiction can change the world" message. It literally changes nothing about the previous entries. They are the same story as they always were, and we played them knowing they were fiction. >"This ending is insulting its fans by portraying us as these crazy spectators!" No. We are not the DRV3 audience in the game. We are playing a videogame, while the DRV3 audience is watching brainwashed REAL PEOPLE kill each other. One is way more morally questionable than the other. Besides, the DRV3 audience was watching everything through Keebo's eyes all along, while we certainly didn't (for most of the game, anyway). Sure, there are some jabs at real fanbases (and what happens to overly-milked franchises), but you're not supposed to feel insulted by Shuichi wanting to end a reality-show featuring a live killing game. >"This ending was basically "it was all a dream", what a terrible twist!" Well, not really. These were real flesh-and-blood people who got brainwashed. Their personalities and memories were fabricated, but their experience certainly was not. They still had free will. And most importantly, they ACTUALLY DIED, permanent deaths at that (which is better than DR3's anime's ending). I might have missed some but that's all I want people to consider before hating on this ending. You are still free to dislike it for what it is, though. I personally enjoyed it a lot. EDIT: Also, I don't know if it's because Weeby was confused about the Hope's Peak saga being a show too, but thereare some confused comments about that, so I'll clarify here. 2:41:00 "Until it transcended games and anime to become this, the Ultimate Real Fiction" The Hope's Peak saga was just games and anime in the V3 canon. Nothing was retconned about those games/anime. They were not shows with auditioners like V3.

[@acebathound7572]

To add on to your first point. It's also possible that in the universe of DR1 and DR2 that V3's killing game happened and they went with the whole meteors destroying the earth plot. Also to be honest at least this ending has a shred of hope to it. Since if they managed to beat the mastermind Himiko, Shucihi, and Maki would still be the last surviving humans, and I just cant see them lol hoping there way out of that.

[@torrik-8722]

Asdf, I'd like to comment on the portrayal part. "One foot in fiction, another in reality" is telling us to not focus on the world of danganronpa, but to take what we learned there and make our own better. I'm not good at explaining things, but he was portraying us not as psychotic or crazy, but too involved with that fictional world and not our own, much like the audience in V3.

[@MonoReaper]

But if fictional characters call them self inside fiction fictional character due those fictional characters creating a fictional killinggame in a fictional killingame than what message can have any meaning when the meaning itself projects itself towards the fiction inside the fiction as truth? There is no meaning for us as the player as we are only the observer of the fictional setting made by fictional people so fictional people could observe it? Than there is no meaning for everything else if all past DR games/titels/novels are also just (ingame world logic) fictional entertaiment for fictional people who love suffering and happyness of all the characters. It means there is no point for us if Chiaki, Naegi & Hinata etc are also just crazy people or fiction inside the fiction of the fictonal world. It just means nothing has any meaning any impact or statement to us the player if we arent included in any way in that fiction and 4th wall break cause it wasnt directed at us instead it was meant for the fictional audience that doesnt exist. Sooooo yeah in that regard the ending basiclly just robs all meaning all suffering and all points that were made in prior series. Its a bad ending cause it basiclly says nothing matters as long as we can pull it off. There is no point for us to have as the player. Welp in the end their statement is everything is pointless as everything is in the end nothing more than entertaiment for us withouth greater meaning. Just provided by us from people like Kodaka who create it to shock us with the next big pointless plot twist. ......

[@squidgelatinous9724]

Reaper_V What in the goddamn hell are you talking about...?

[@MonoReaper]

About the fictional killinggames point to their fictional audience in the fiction world they created inside their fictional world from the viewpoint of the player.

[@ravix-strips4794]

You know if you think about it Kaede's situation is similar to Makoto because both were blamed for a murder and get executed. The only difference is Makoto survived and Kaede died. I consider her death as a what if scenario for makoto.

[@lush2711]

Ravix-Strips way different though because Makoto KNEW he didnt do it while Kaede thought she did. Kaede pretty much ratted herself out. Shuichi is more comparable with Makoto because he started getting blamed first trial and wouldve been executed if Kaede didnt step in

[@livsen5517]

Ravix-Strips V stands for vegans (u know MaxDoodle)

[@usa-chan5703]

Ravix-Strips also, Kaede TRIED TO KILL SOMEONE whereas Makoto didn't. They were both executed on false charges but one of them was more innocent then the other:/ (although Kaede should have lived ;-;)

[@IIBADDYLANII]

One got luck the other doesn't

[@pathfinderfella7354]

I don't really see why people hate the ending to this game. The ending isn't stereotypical like people are saying. Infact it leads up to a huge fucking theory of, Which game(s) are real? If Tsumugi wasn't lying about having Cospox then she couldn't dress as Makoto/any other DR character without bursting into a bright pink. Plus, this leads to a whole bunch of theories and in my eyes is the best ending of the 3 DR games, it leads with Theories and alternate routes in a timeline of events that could happen which in my eyes leads to a good ending for the fandom to find out.

[@cuac232]

The Hope's Peak saga was probably just videogames/anime. Saihara's lab had 52 books with crimes on them. The first ones had illustrations (videogames/anime) while the older ones had pictures (live killing games). At least until that epilogue, which makes anything possible.

[@nickyb3800]

She COULD dress as Makoto and the others because they're all fictional characters. You missed the whole point.

[@etherealmayhem8652]

Nicky B I think you're* missing the point of the whole lies theme entirely. Reflect on things before you blindly except things at face value.

[@TheInfinityOwl]

ethereal mayhem I really like when people use the "truth and lies" theme to justify this bullshit unexplained ending.

[@johanngalilea]

Strixstrama Believe it or not, you *actually* have to apply the theme and it's ideas to the ending to understand it! Fuckin crazy! Am I right?

[@dianadraker5495]

Personally, I'm in the Tsumugi lied club. I've seen debates about how she's the Ultimate Cosplayer so she could've made up Cospox. To this extent it could mean that those three audition videos could just be her cosplaying as a fail-safe or something. Someone online said the floor looks just like the one in her Ultimate lab, though I personally don't buy that part of the argument. Regardless, the memory of being kidnapped in the Prologue seems more real to me. Also the number 53 really stands out to me. Since a season normally means once per year, then that would mean the show had gone on for 53 years. Although, alternatively one could say there was a season for every TV season, meaning that it's been going on for 14 years or something. However, the "Anniversary Danganronpa 10" heavily implies that it's once per year as that is their 10th anniversary of the show. Due to how old the show is, I wouldn't be surprised if it started as a docu-drama based on the historical information found in the "Hope's Peak Academy" text (yes I'm assuming that the information in the textbook is real). But since it was popular and the history wouldn't provide them material forever, eventually executives decided to change it to a reality TV show where the "actors" really do kill each other, just like in the history books. Sorry for this comment being so long, just really wanted to get my idea out.

[@InktheImpassive]

I actually have a decent theory The developers intentionally made it to be Danganronpa V3/53 so that the fans will make the other 48 danganronpa seasons as Fangames currently going around.

[@MrFusion]

Yeah I figured that this had to have taken place way after the first three, 50+ years sounds about right. I do wonder, how would the people who went through these events feel about the show? A lot of them (DR1 survivors and the Despairs) could still be alive, I'm sure they would be against this show.

[@mrrunodan8119]

​@@MrFusionThe Flashback lights! Team Danganronpa used the Flashback lights on everyone who was connected with the real Hope's Peak Academy! Wanna hear my theory?

[@-Theo-]

Kiibo being “the ultimate hope robot” actually means he was designed after the ultimate hope, Naegi. They even have the same measurements.

[@ZE.brigitte]

That why he short

[@michaelst.michaels1490]

Yo they are the same height that’s crazy

[@PsySaucererOfnHen]

I get that a lot of people will definitely not be satisfied with this ending. This is basically the biggest mindfuck we've had to date and I guess being the finale it makes sense. But I think we'd be better off thinking of this as an alternate reality of what happened to the world, where hope and despair existed 'in unison' and thus the creation of the reality killing game show.. But in my own opinion, *Dangan Salmon is canon* (cause everyone lives and Shuichi and Kaede can be cute af together)

[@toastofcatbread3207]

I mean, it is technically possible for Salmon Mode to be canon, since all Team DR would have to do is erase the cast's memories after it's over and then have the killing game afterwards. Heck, I'd argue that they might actually have done this because it'd give the audience time to grow attached to the characters more before the actual killings start.

[@Beny763]

I really want a sequel to this universe, there is too much that doesn´t make sense. How can they be so talented when everything is fabricated? Miu created Hammers, Bombs, rewrote a program and was overall just extremely useful with her talent. And thinking about that the theme of the game are lies, how can we know that anything we learned in the last trial is real? Tsumugi could lie about everything, the scenes of the real outside world could be fabricated. I didn´t really disliked the ending (altough everything before this case seems so pointless know, learning everything about this fake world etc.) but I think it really needs a sequel to expand this new universe.

[@cristophermartinez6707]

Beny how they could become ultimate is they are created ultimates ,I don't know if you saw but in despair arc of the anime it's being talked about the izaru kamakura project and that chosed hajime because he had no talent what's so ever and they wanted to make a fake/create an ultimate out of nothing ,or they hypnotize them making them believe that they have amazing talents

[@hatboi124]

Shit Nukes. DUDE, SAME. I've seen too many videos on all those different modes where the characters interact with each other, and I saw Kaede and Shuichi's free time event things where they learn piano. OMG, Kaede is too cute. Honestly, the first trial of this game is fantastic, but it's so good that I feel a little tramatized. I get all sad whenever I think of how Kaede and Shuichi never got to be with each other. And this final trial is such a kick in the dick about it too. Kaede is best girl, no doubt.

[@annlee2737]

I've seen many arguments for both sides but I still liked the ending(even though many waifus and husbandos died goddammit Kodaka)

[@ravenkuma9123]

in Shuichi's ultimate lab those investigation books on the shelf are the deaths in the past 52 seasons right?

[@undercoverfbi3155]

Raven Kuma That’s true

[@notster7114]

maybe not, it said some of them were so old that they were hand written and not typed so it might have nothing to do with it

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Ex Tense No, it said that the older ones were drawn, while the newer ones had photographs. Think SDR2 Twilight Syndrome's pictures, but reversed. Because the first few entries in the V3 were actually just games and anime, and hadn't made the media transition to IRL killing games yet

[@yeahepicswag7890]

Some still wonder what Shuichi, Maki, and Himiko to in the real world Probably get bombarded by Danganronpa fans and put into bullshit jobs

[@danielwhite3244]

either that or maki killed all witness to their existence and decided to change their identities so none of us will know

[@sooha9487]

I-

[@bopbep4303]

@Whxskey Flour_ It's left really open-ended on purpose, just for us to make our own ending for them. Technically, from what Tsmugi said, they are fictional, but the fact that they were actually given these personalities and everything would make them real in that universe. Tsumugi also had her whole point of not being able to cosplay real people with the whole "cospox" thing with Kaede, but she also claims that all of them are fictional, so she should have no problems there? I think of Tsmugi as being more of a character created by whoever she really is, a character that's essentially the same as her but with certain restrictions around what she can do. Completely honestly, I actually really like to not have an ending beyond the open one for v3, I feel like it fits the whole theme perfectly. Sorry about this being really wrong, I just have a lot of thoughts

[@megugu2155]

hc maki works as a child caregiver and shuichi is studying to become a policeman. they cant waste their talents now cant they? their performance in the danganronpa show gave their reputation a boost since everyone knows they can be trusted since they know their personalities. himiko is probably a tv personality or smth and is living a grander celebrity life than the other two. maki and shuichi regularly visits therapy because they still cant cope with the fact that their loved ones are dead even if those feelings were fictional. theyre like brother and sister now and himiko is more like their little sister. they all live in the same apartment building and has continued their education. hopefully.

[@vic8512]

we aren't gonna talk about the fact that the audience had to look at Miu's poop everyday when she was alive

[@peripheralblur]

Wut

[@vic8512]

@@peripheralblur miu gave keebo a function to take and print pictures it's purpose was to take pictures of her poop and make sure she was healthy and because keebo looked at it everyday so did the audience

[@peripheralblur]

@@vic8512 Ah, okay

[@okamiseele8614]

sweet sweet revenge :D

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Important fact: The background for the audition tapes that Tsumugi shows at the ending matches the photoshoot stage in Tsumugi's own Ultimate Lab. It's highly probable she was posing as the three and that cospox is fake. Furthermore, the footage shown in the Motive Videos DOES feature cast members interacting within their backstories. Since those must all be fake, it's incredibly likely that all the footage of the characters in their Motive Videos is ALSO Tsumugi.

[@dragonsareawesome123]

Yeah, those audition tapes are very suspicious. For instance in Shuichi's audition tape, they blacked out his name, implying that Shuichi wasn't his real name, but in the prologue before the first flashback light when all of the students were still their true selves, Shuichi introduced himself to Kaede as Shuichi Saihara which is a clear contradiction to his audition tape.

[@dylanreed3496]

Makes me feel good that himiko didn’t apply to kill ppl :0

[@KidSnivy69]

2:26:30 A time stamp for those who know the twist and want to see how Weeby takes it.

[@hugotreminio]

KidSnivy96 Thanks!

[@ghostfalcon6609]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pILOkmetq5t1gtk This game's twist in a nutshell

[@primus0348]

KidSnivy96 so makoto and everyone else from v1 and v2 are fake this is....... I don't get it this ruins everything forever Even chiaki is fake my favourite character

[@bts_vstan904]

KidSnivy96 Ahoge Intimidation

[@nasinnarcotics]

Not all heroes wear capes man, thanks

[@EJ-db5pm]

HOPE DESPAIR HOPE DESPAIR HOPE DESPAIR

[@CariagaXIII]

bagles

[@dragonsareawesome123]

BAGELS WAFFLES BAGELS WAFFLES BAGELS WAFFLES

[@cah137-y4s]

"HOPE! DESPAIR! HOPE! DESPAIR! HOPE! DESPAIR! THIS ENDING SUCKS!"

[@とふこ]

Kibou zetsubo kibou zetsubo kibou zetsubo kibou zetsubo

[@JoJoTalksTooMuch]

The wildest, tripiest ending ever, it's been ages and I still don't know quite what to think! So glad to see your thoughts on the ending, who knows where things go from here, but it should be interesting! ^_^

[@tripledsupset7301]

I think the real reason why the game later for so long is a reference to the fact that Japan had the most sales on all the games

[@Zer0sins]

JoJo Talks Too Much ✌︎('ω'✌︎ )

[@Optaku]

JoJo Talks Too Much heeeeeey

[@alexchavez7514]

So, am I the only who thinks Keebo being the audience's camera would be a stupid idea in real life? If he was the only camera, that would mean that if he decided to just stare at blank wall while events in the story were happening, the audience would miss everything.

[@toastofcatbread3207]

The thing is, the audience could command him through the whole "inner voice" thing if he started doing things they didn't approve of.

[@ZE.brigitte]

@@toastofcatbread3207 That even better..Imagine his inner voice would tell him to stare at the wall "K1-B0, there is a dead body, what are you doing" "Good question! I don't know!"

[@smiIeyface]

it's like jerma's dollhouse stream, if the audience were more realisticly portrayed keebo would be doing outrageous shit like flirting with everyone and maybe even killing some people, since there aren't any consequences, but then again the audience input would only be like suggestions since he still has his own personality

[@awildnoviceappears]

​@@bigbadgammagnomeif this whole "Keebo is an audience surrogate" was realistic, we'd have seen Keebo going around the school just running around in circles, staring and struggling at walls, struggling to climb up stairs, and all his dialogue would be gibberish because chat is just randomly pressing buttons on the in-game keyboard, heck, he might not even answer and would just ram into characters head on. Voting time would always have at least one outlying vote because Keebo is just pressing buttons at random. Also, that last vote where nobody votes would never happen... But if there was that anarchy and democracy thing there would still be chaos but they'd be able to get things done faster

[@lyre_liar]

Shuichi: I killed kaede Everyone: it’s okay you had to Game: but kaede didn’t kill anyone Shuichi: *cries*

[@JKSeung]

The finale of Danganronpa 53 This was a beautiful plauthrough Apologies to all those that got spoiled in the comments And now to an end No hope No despair No future

[@cristalat101]

Karma's Debt not the end

[@Random-gh9nz]

What do you mean?

[@JKSeung]

Random 7272 post game stuff

[@primus0348]

Karma's Debt what a bitter calling I knew it was a lie the moment I saw it obviously but it was intriguing nonetheless -Springtrap 2017

[@aegis5678]

Hi, I cried during this trial. 3 times.

[@davil.5608]

Max My Dog In Which parts?

[@jeffreyastudillo8851]

Davi L. The top 3 ahoge moments

[@mutsu2161]

Me in chapter 5 lmao

[@hispanicpanda1242]

I feel you on an emotional level..... I was sobbing this whole trial

[@bananasinfrench]

Everytime Claire de Lune played here, I sobbed full-on.

[@stopkeeper4729]

So when are u going to play danganronpa 4 - 52

[@SuperMandibleclaw]

The joke Your head

[@Nyabot-mh2zi]

@@primus0348 R/WOOOOOOOSH

[@primus0348]

Nyabot2000 oof that was such an old comment, why did i even write that, welp the damage is done and I’m deleting it now.

[@Nyabot-mh2zi]

@@primus0348 bruh moment-- poor you- but i feel your pain of having a cringy super old comment--

[@linyetaicetea8405]

@Iroha Tokumoto I welcome you back that this comment that you wrote 1 week ago!

[@RebirthCrusader90]

One thing to keep in mind about the ending is that it's heavily hinted that despite all the shenanigans--and all the revelations the characters learned about--that Tsumugi was still lying about a lot of things as indicated by the cosplaycat line. That's the theme of the game, after all, so this puts into doubt a lot of things we were told. The outside world watching, made up families, the videos of the cast being excited to play the game... the grey areas of what's a truth or a lie don't really stop there. Were all the talents a lie, for example? It's pretty hard to fabricate being a robot, for example...Keebo even self-destructed and overall had a big part in the ending, so we know that part wasn't made up. But at the same time, maybe Maki wasn't an assassin. Maybe she was. The thing is, though, that the characters literally did things that were impossible if they didn't actually have a relevant talent. Maki moving extremely quickly and holding up Kokichi by the throat? Shuichi uncovering all the clues/evidence that all the other characters constantly missed? Miu creating all those inventions? It's understandable to make characters like Himiko, Korekiyo, Gonta believe their backstories, but it's a little outside of the realm of possibility that the flashback light would bestow actual abilities. So what's the truth and what's the lie? Basically what they were going for here is open interpretation. My interpretation is that Tsumugi only told the truth about a couple things.

[@hiccupasterisk]

Agreed. I think its foolish that people take all of Tsumugi's statements at face value in a game where they constantly pushed that one shouldn't trust so openly, and plus, to trust the villain's word entirely? They may be the Mastermind, but that doesn't mean they can't lie to further their own agenda. I do think Tsumugi lied a lot in the ending, while also telling some truths.

[@kamronspencer4910]

Monodoof see I believe that this was a tv show/ game series in this universe was real but I don’t believe they actually scripted who died when. They definitely could have tried to control people but as keebo said if the characters were both real and fictional then logically it can’t all be fiction. I think tsumugi was lying about having written their emotions and what not this is supported by when she tries to convince everyone that them choosing to die to end the game was also something she scripted to try and talk them out of it. I feel she definitely over exaggerated her control of them to try and screw with their heads

[@hiccupasterisk]

I do think there was a script of some sort, judging by the actions Tsumugi took in chapter 5. She was CLEARLY mad that Kokichi had derailed her show by attempting to hijack her position and end the killings, which is why she had him killed. But agreed, I doubt everything was going flawlessly. Kaede NEARLY ruined her show at the beginning so while she did influence some people, they still had some sort of free will and individual thoughts

[@ghostfiredc3584]

I feel like you might have confused what was real and what wasn't. Danganronpa, Danganronpa 2, and Danganronpa:AE are all actual videogames in the "V3 Universe." The V3 outside world plays and is fans of those games. After Danganronpa getting so many spin offs and sequels, the public pushed for a "real life" Danganronpa show. Thus, they began making the "Ultimate Real Fiction" games. The events of Danganronpa 1-3 are not real life in the V3 universe, they are games/anime that the public loved so much, they created a real life version to continue the series. Thus, starting at an unknown season, Danganronpa became a reality show where actual high school students killed each other, rather then a fictional characters in a fictional videogame. Think of it like we are the characters in the V3 Outside World. We play the Danganronpa games and watch the anime, and then a reality tv show for Danganronpa was made where actual people are made to kill eachother.

[@nickyb3800]

I don't get why some people are confused. They make it more than clear. You just need to pay a bit attention.

[@MasterYeet64]

Alright Weeby we're gonna be waiting for that Kokichi analysis now.

[@KidSnivy69]

I think that might take some time

[@smiffwilm]

Pretty sure it can be summed up with one sentence: "It's a lie!"

[@asht0nkai]

@@smiffwilm that little *bitch*

[@char3909]

I just noticed the lyrics to the Anime's theme hints to this......wow...

[@gh-zr5ht]

What? What lyrics?

[@emmamercier4097]

Cuz it's a game!!! Reality slips far away, fiction comes alive as we start to play it...

[@evo683]

Yeah I know I did too XD

[@cristalat101]

Cuz it's a game!!! REALITY SLIPS FAR AWAY THOSE LYRICS

[@elscherix3099]

You are so awesome for realising this!

[@curtmack]

Regarding the translation: The main Tumblr post that talks about the issues with Kokichi's translation, while mostly accurate, made a glaring error that hasn't ever been corrected by the author. When Kokichi is convincing Kaito to go along with his plan to trick Monokuma, he does not say, "As if a game that takes people's lives like this… could ever be fun." Reddit user crystalweaver explained this better than I ever could, so I'll just quote their comment: > やらされる in this context is the passive form of やる, and ゲームをやる means "to play a game." So the passive would mean "made to play a game." やる can mean "to kill" in some contexts (but usually only when written with katakana or kanji, like ヤる or 殺る), but 人にやらされるゲーム as "a game where you kill people" makes no grammatical sense because 人 (another person) is in the indirect object of that sentence, not the direct object. Someone else is the one forcing you to do something; you're not doing something to someone else. NISA was definitely correct in this context.

[@myenethes1554]

they have addressed it right here: oumakokichi.tumblr.com/post/166831663145/part-1-translation-anon-not-sure-if-yesterdays i personally believed oumakokichi was correct in translating that line considering how putting in the verb "killing" just makes that entire dialogue flows more logically. (imo, i thought the jump from "games im forced to play" to "games that toy with our lives" was pretty jarring.)

[@curtmack]

Myenethes Ah, my bad then.

[@myenethes1554]

no worries! without proper context of what Kaito said, i would have came to the same train of thought. i thought something was a little bit off when ouma said he hates playing a forced game then jumping to "games that toy with our lives," but after reading that post, it became clear that the line was misinterpreted/mistranslated due to lack of communication b/w multiple translators working on the same dialogue separately

[@jamesverner7613]

I thought V was just to sound cool

[@ROT695]

James Verner from what I know V was supposed to mean version. That’s what we was told anyway until we played the game

[@memerboi7128]

V is the Roman version of 5 and with V3 it becomes 53

[@kiyo3191]

I thought v meant version- Because its the third game of the main danganronpa series

[@himedere3866]

@@ROT695 nope, v3 means 53

[@dreamer-fz9ct]

I don't know about you but danganronpa 20 was the shit

[@AtlasDeValle]

I disagree, 37 was much better

[@adelaida5019]

Heck it was the best how dare u

[@milliesbiggestfan]

Danganronpa 32 was alot more heart-breaking.

[@trixqr7799]

Bin Ray. Yeah I know right everyone died on the first episode so it was boring

[@trixqr7799]

@Iroha Tokumoto I know right . They literally had The ultimate psycho, even though they barley met . my favorite favorite was Tajima Shig , The ultimate Mathematic ( thats my oc lol sorry for saying that its stupid)

[@joshwew9551]

F-F-F-Four hours of finale?!

[@rhythm3175]

Yuuuuuuup This game is twice the length of DR2

[@cadenwilliams4726]

Isn’t it beautiful?

[@mayamaya6182]

Yosua Wijaya ive watch an 11 hours danganronpa vid lol

[@spencervirens]

Oh yea ;)

[@spencervirens]

@@VeryGoodDad Satan, it's you! *HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ HĀĮĽ ŞÅŢĂŅ*

[@austinduffy108]

if rantaro was from another killing game, could he be the last ones protagonist since he has two ahoges?

[@annlee2737]

He gained an extra ahoge because he has two talents now: Ultimate Adventurer(heard this was his talent in his killing game) and Ultimate Survivor

[@austinduffy108]

yeah, i just thought since he basically has 2 ahoges and a protagonist has a ahoge or someone important, he could have gotten one from being a important person here since he survived the last one, plus he must have been important in the last game like a protagonist, or at least the best boy in the last one. that and when you see toko fuwakas design from ultra despair girls she obviously has a ahoge, but theres a thin piece of hair that is connected where the ahoge is, like a 2nd ahoge like what rantaro has, you can see it in the danganronpa 3 anime as well a bit, which kinda make me think that he could be someone very important like a best boy or a protagonist from #52

[@annlee2737]

Austin Duffy Lol my last comment was meant to be a joke. Didn't mean to put u down or anything. Sorry if it came off badly >

[@austinduffy108]

yeah, sorry i didn't get the joke, i always make a comment and everyone always tries to make it wrong so they seem right, yay high school, and it would be interesting for him to be protagonist, or any character to be more detailed than a regular hajime or makoto, i'm even making a oc story which could wrap up in the danganronpa timeline which has the concepts of ultra despair girls with danganronpa 2 & 3 with a actual detailed protagonist

[@JoaoVitor-ei1yw]

Austin Duffy i think that he sacrificed himself or rather killed everyone. Thats te only way to have him surviving. or maybe he survived all trails with tsumugi and then lost his memorys. but the audience wouldnt be happy for him not having a good ending. so im stayin with the later ones

[@siggimondo]

#Kaededidnothingwrong

[@cuac232]

Intent to kill. She would still go to jail.

[@siggimondo]

Asdf I refuse to punish thoughtcrime. She just needed a hug and some of that Saihara lovin'

[@ZenJuu94]

#Rantarodidnothingwrong

[@serp892]

siggimondo It's not like it was only thoughts...she had a clear plan and put it into effect lol

[@siggimondo]

Sergio Perez No body no foul. I mean, there was a body, but that's technically not her fault. Look, she had a rough day. A robotic bear was threatening to kill her new bae and a few other scrubs she kinda liked. She would have been all better if the bear was called on his bluff, seeing as nobody (apart from maybe Rantaro, Tsumugi and/or K1-B0) was forced to participate.

[@29dejesusjoshuaemmanuelle57]

Tsumugi was really lucky that she didn't get killed throughout the whole killing game if she was just around the academy, not hiding...

[@reithehunter]

She was really lucky korekiyo didn't target her.. Edit: although she might have programmed them to not target her at all.. must be it..

[@29dejesusjoshuaemmanuelle57]

Fuck you, Kodaka, you made Tsumugi the 3'rd Ultimate Bullshit.

[@tsuromie]

Solarium well, I think she was able to predict what the students would do

[@wintersnow998]

I feel like Izuru should count as the mastermind in the second game because AI Junko wouldn't have been able to do anything if he hadn't uploaded "her" to the Neo World Program. He wanted to see if Junko really was wrong about hope (even though he believed he already knew the outcome).

[@mellowvgc2402]

He wasn't the one who pulled the strings though the mastermind manipulated him. Izuru was very curious.

[@LeonGun8]

Izuru was indeed the mastermind of the Jabberwock Island killing game. As much as people hate Danganronpa 3, the scene where Izuru sees Chiaki dying after her execution and Hinata's memories resurface is the moment he realized Hope is unpredictable. Since Junko's Despair was boring to him, he instead put all his work into testing the unpredictability of Hope. For that he reclaimed the Junko AI from SHirokuma and Kurokuma and then it is implied he led Makoto Naegi to the locations of the students of Class 77, which explains why Makoto was able to smuggle them off for his plan to restore their minds to normal without Future Foundation finding out. And indeed the unpredictable happened as Hinata managed to reclaim his former personality again (although with traces of Izuru's), something that should not have happened as Hinata's personality should have been erased.

[@mellowvgc2402]

LeonGun8 But Junko planned this making her the mastermind.

[@LeonGun8]

That would make her the source,not the mastermind. Izuru's plans did not factor into her plans. After all, what's the point of making her Remnants of Despair fall into Despair? They are already her soldiers and they were doing a superb job fighting off Future Foundation (it's a stated fact that Future Foundation got the upper hand only after Class 77 was out of the picture). You can't call Junko the mastermind of every little thing she had her hands on because all she did was plant a seed for further Despair, what the others did with that was all up to them. Monaca could have easily ignored Junko's plans and never created the Warriors of Hope, which is indeed what happened after UDG when she basically said "fuck it" and left. And Tengen's scheme in DR3 began because he realized even the most trusted members of Future Foundation had succumbed to Despair or were inside spies of the Remants of Despair but that doesn't make Junko the mastermind of that whole plan, merely the source. Izuru was promised a Despair that would bring him out of his boring monotonous existence and that promise was false. Yes, that IS the source. And the AI that ran the killing game was created by Junko yes. But Junko never expected Izuru to use the AI for his own purposes, nor that Izuru would become interested in Hope instead. That's Izuru's will and Junko has nothing to do with it (Izuru despised Junko for her false promises and the fact he allowed himself to be used and framed for an slaughter that did not interest him).

[@SycoticForeverNeverAF]

LeonGun8 Hit it right on the head. Izuru was responsible for all of the events of dr2. He could have easily killed junko for good at the end of udg but chose not to.

[@Monobrobe]

My only complaint about the ending is that Keebo died at literally the last second. I’m still kinda channeling my inner Teruteru and denying that little fact. I won’t believe, I won’t believe... #KeeboDiedForOurSins

[@MrWanton16]

Ultimate Hope kills Dangan Ronpa. Sad yet fitting.

[@annlee2737]

It's kind of symbolic death, but yeah I really grew to love Kiibo at the end so his death made me sad T T another good boy died

[@KidSnivy69]

Who says his mind was in his body?

[@danielwhite3244]

i LOVE this ending. its just as wacky as what this series is. iam probably in the minority but iam proud of it lol

[@XxAJxX-qp1qp]

Nah

[@ot7biasedmashups]

YES SAME I FELL IN LOVE WITH IT IMMEDIATELY! Also I love that Tsumugi is lying about so much

[@kumagawamisogi6513]

The necronomicon from case 3 was (in my opinion and in hindsight) a brilliant motive ( but at the same time comes off as kinda stupid(also my opinion) as only the audience and the mastermind knew that someone could be revived, but nevertheless) the part which makes it brilliant come from knowing the truth which you learn at the end of the game. It allows you to conclude that the necronomicon would have worked because the producers could have recast the person who had died and was selected for resurrection whilst altering the memories the survivors held of the “original” thus bringing the dead back to life!

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Skeletonmanmike Or it's all special effects and nobody actually died Just like in the Demo

[@SmaIIBombs]

I had this theory that, assuming the existence of Kaede's twin sister isn't a lie, then they would of selected her and recast her in place of her deceased sister. So in a sense, Kaede was always going to be the one who was 'revived', regardless of who the killing game participants actually chose to resurrect. It could just be written off as Angie making some mistake when performing the ritual.

[@KidSnivy69]

The producers are psychopathic assholes!

[@usa-chan5703]

Bowl of Onions wow that .... actually makes sense o_O

[@harthart917]

maybe no one noticed this but when tsumugi showed shuichi's audition tape with his normal look, she censored his name but looking at the very beginning when kaede asked shuichi's name it was still Shuichi Saihara in his non-detective look, i think that audition tape is obviously fake....?

[@kamronspencer4910]

Lil Poptarto but it showed the regular names for the other characters so maybe that was an actual mistake on the part of the localizers they did screw up other stuff. And if it isn’t a mistake it still doesn’t really prove anything the game leaves it deliberately vague and introduces tons of totally contradictory evidence for both sides

[@alfreebo1154]

I can definitely see how this ending upset people, it just doesn't bother me as much personally (in fact I think it's one of if not the best ending[s]) since I'm choosing to look at it differently. The way I see it is that I think of Kaito and the rest of the characters as the ones who developed in the game, and while the other ones are technically "real" Kaede and "real" Kaito etc., those are entirely different characters to me. I know my way of thinking isn't exactly perfect and I doubt many people will agree with how I think of it, but it's far more enjoyable imo if you look at it like that. People may disagree with me, but I think it's in a way similar to SDR2's twist with everyone being Ultimate Despair, I doubt many people suddenly hated the cast or game after revealing that, so it's hard for me to see personally how despite having some of the best trials and characters in the series, the ending of V3 can suddenly just ruin that for a lot of people. But again, that's just my take on it and no one's forced to agree with me

[@annlee2737]

I've seen a theory where the "real" Kaito and Kaede shown in the video was falsified by Tsumugi and that she was just cosplaying their "real" versions. The proof the person said was because of Tsumugi's cospox where she couldn't cosplay real people and only characters, proving that the "real" versions were actually fake. Plus in the prologue they definitely didn't act like they did in the video or Danganronpa fans. There was more on that theory but I don't remember all the details. It was definitely very interesting though

[@alfreebo1154]

Allison Lee Ah yeah, I've heard that theory and like it a lot as well

[@XCC23]

I completely agree. The fact that some Past Kaito, Past Shuichi and Past Kaede exist who are all huge dicks in no way takes away from the fact that the Kaito, Shuichi and Kaede WE know are still suffering. Shuichi makes that point over and over in this trial too, doesn't he? "Just because we're fictional characters doesn't mean our pain isn't real!" The fact that some past version of Shuichi asked for this is almost irrelevant to the fact that the Shuichi WE know didn't ask for this. I think your comparison to SDR2 is excellent, actually. The fact that Hajime/Izuru caused the killing game to happen doesn't mean we stop empathising with him. The fact that the past versions of everyone in SDR2 are monsters (created by Junko, sure) doesn't mean that the suffering of the CURRENT people in SDR2 stops meaning anything.

[@budmeister]

This is also why there around 50 volumes of murders in Shuichi's lab. The first few where illustrations, while the rest were photos, when they started making the ultimate real fiction killing games.

[@monodam2514]

GOODBYE-EVERYONE

[@서린-h6k]

rest in peace best boy

[@aqibsunesara2175]

Monodam, you were my husbando this game...:'C

[@pineapplecatxdwonderpigs8160]

Aww nOoooo

[@Freakreo]

MONODAM I LOVE YOU

[@User-rw5lr]

@@Freakreo you're late...

[@Wylster1996]

The ending of V3 is very strange. At first I very much disliked it, but after re-seeing it a few times, I've come to love the ending.

[@PradeepKari]

You thought it was Junko Enoshima, but it was I, Dio!

[@hughjazz6300]

You thought it was Tsumugi but.... You fell for it Thunder Cross Split Attack

[@annlee2737]

Also there's an interesting headcanon among the fandom that the pre-game version of the characters have the opposite version of personalities they have in-game. I find that kind of stuff really interesting even if it might not be true.

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Allison Lee I find that pretty fucked up in Tenko's case if that's true Like, if she joined with the stated goal of getting to date boys and they turned her into a misandrist lesbian...

[@annlee2737]

True. Like in Kaede and Kaito's case they had shown very different beliefs and ideologies than the one's in-game. I also often see Kokichi(he is often portrayed as very weak, bullied and suicidal) and Saihara(an obsessed fanboy for Danganronpa) shown in this headcanon. It's interesting to compare the two personalities, even if it's a bit upsetting.

[@hiccupasterisk]

At the very least, pre-brainwash Kokichi cares about others and is not as happy go-lucky as he was in the Killing Game, judging by the two lines he had pre-brainwash. But you can't really tell a lot from just two lines.

[@annlee2737]

I have heard theories that the pre-game versions aren't even real and made up by Tsumugi too but I just like seeing the alternate personalities of my fav characters

[@danielwhite3244]

is there a complete list of all the "reverse" version of the characters? i would be most interested in reading it. gonta is a huge bully and vile jerk, kirumi is insecure, korekiyo is a person who probably hates his sister, the possibilities are endless lol

[@victowave7066]

I have several questions... What if Tsumugi's Flashback Light made her think that she was a worker at Team Danganronpa? If Tsumugi said that all the participants willingly accepted to be part of the killing game, why the "real" Kaede remembered that she was kidnapped by 3 people and put on that school on the Prologue? When Tsumugi said about being a cosplaycat criminal, was she stating that Hope's Peak Academy is just fiction? When Tsumugi stated the thing about cosplaying the whole wide world, could that mean that the "audience" shown in the trial is just fictional? What if this ending is just to let down the Danganronpa fans and not let them think about Danganronpa V4? Keebo regained his personality after the "audience" stopped watching Danganronpa, meaning that was his wish to let Shuichi, Maki and Himiko alive, and not the audiences'? And... Why Weeby put this video only at 1080p, I have a bad internet where I'm staying

[@kamronspencer4910]

KOFASH 123 so about the kidnapping that could easily just be how the studio gathers their “actors” after they’ve been selected which would also explain why no one helped her they might have seen like a danganronpa logo on the van and known what was happening. As for anything with tsumugi she purposefully gives out tons of contradictory evidence so relying on anything she said one way or the other is not advised. And no this ending wasn’t made to make people lose interest in the series that is a harmful misinterpretation many people have come to mainly because they feel attacked by the game. Kodaka has stated that wasn’t his intention at all.

[@rhythm3175]

AAAAAAAAAAAA THE COSPLAY GLITCH. *THAT IS A SERIOUS BUG HOLY COW(SPLAY)*

[@TheJbrown60]

Rhythm what is the glitch

[@rhythm3175]

Jon Brown The thing at 1:51:41 - it’s actually a spoiler to later on in the game

[@TheJbrown60]

That was fast

[@rhythm3175]

Jon Brown :P 🤷‍♂️

[@irenical08]

this comment was three years old but I was legit screaming at the glitch

[@sanaa3576]

Everyone had such a major crush on Rantaro that they HAD to bring him back to keep their ratings good

[@jasper2785]

Sanaa haha yes😂

[@otas98]

I feel like there were a lot of assumptions in the first part of the trial, one glaring problem being that there should have been a huge dent in the floor and the fact that if tsumugi was willing to break the rules she really should have just used monokuma to do it and not have gone to the restroom, and the fact that going to the restroom and waiting for the murder to occur would take much more time than a normal visit unless she was going number 2 or something. I also think that it's naive for shuichi to think that the mastermind and monokuma would just give up after revealing they cheated, like if its revealed that they don't care about the rules that much they could just be like 'ok whatever lol' *ALSO THAT'S A HORRIBLE FUCKING PLACE TO PUT A SECRET ENTRANCE LIKE KIRUMI COULD SOOOO EASILY FIND THAT*

[@Jardrin]

Honestly... I'm surprised she didn't..

[@winter1527]

Well this is the big fourth wall break ever that broke the whole 4th wall in many levels and goodbye Danganronpa...........For Now?

[@satoshi-raven]

I think we will get new game 3-4 years later but it may take longer depending on if some company decides to continue it. Kodaka(I assumed he is CEO or director of Spike Chunsoft)said he don't want to continue Danganronpa. So yeah,Goodbye Danganronpa.

[@toastofcatbread3207]

Gonzalo Summerson Kodaka is the lead writer and creator of Danganronpa, he doesn't have a leading authority role in Spike Chunsoft itself. I certainly feel like they're going to continue it, considering that Kodaka has stated that he's fine with seeing another person take the writing helm of the series and the fact that SC had put out a hiring notice for a DR game a little while back.

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Kokichi Oma The fourth wall was literally executed...

[@hibiki8473]

Gonzalo Summerson I think from what i have seen kodaka wants a break from writing them and do some other things but he isnt done with danganronpa

[@LeonGun8]

Kodaka mentioned that you need to replay the prologue because V3 is all about the truth and lies. Even the ending is woven in lies. SO yes, the story is not over.

[@Versitax]

Legend has it if you’re early nothing happens.

[@icefeather1128]

Accurate.

[@jeffreyastudillo8851]

99.9 Himiko points to you, Himiko went to extra measures so that Shuichi would win

[@kiwikarp9509]

TheRandomDude The Legends are false. You could get some likes or a heart from Weeby.

[@milliesbiggestfan]

@@kiwikarp9509 Legend has it you're one of those people who go comment "FIRST!!" on every single video and are trying to give a reasonable explanation.

[@kiwikarp9509]

@@milliesbiggestfan That's not true. Where did you get that idea from?

[@allya15]

Has anybody else noticed the V and 3 in Junko’s eyes? (I haven’t watched all the way so idk of Weeby noticed)

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

CryBaby Ally It's actually in ALL of Tsumugi's cosplays, if you look closely

[@agranosclem]

Except Hifumi, but that's because his eyes are different lol

[@zcubeDbz]

Worst part... Angie breaking the flashbacklight was actually a good thing. Ouch

[@ot7biasedmashups]

A little detail, Tsumugi is in the flashbacklight classroom quite often during free time hmmmm

[@Kamexe]

BREAK HIS ANTENNA AGAIN. GUYS. BREAK IT HE CANT HELP.

[@Adamatronamus]

Nooooo. It can't be over. Quick. Do a video of your Himiko voice reading the dictionary. That way the adventures can be endless.

[@rhythm3175]

OUR LIVES ARE POINTLESS, IT’S NOT OUR WEAPONS

[@Rosevieenla]

Something interesting worth noting is that in the Japanese version of the prologue Rantarou asks "What's with the imitation?" Rather than the English that was "What's with the repeat?".

[@jakehaun7264]

The best part about watching other's reactions to this ending will be listening to people freak out because these characters aren't real. You take that out of context and it sounds like a bunch of adults realizing Santa doesn't exist.

[@TheTj334]

What if Tsumigi forged the audition tapes? She is the Ultimate Cosplayer after all.

[@jauronbanks9018]

She cant coslpay real people but mabye that was a lie

[@LK_tutturu]

@PersonaX Sore wa Chigau yo!

[@neoman4426]

@PersonaX But we only "know" that because she "couldn't" cosplay as Kaede correct? The entire premise of it was flawed even as an alibi back then, faking an allergic reaction isn't too hard. But with the claim that she's in world fictional the only evidence the condition was "real" dries up, if she's fictional she demonstrated the ability to fake it, so any claims relying on the condition become suspect

[@BDwiit]

Tsumugi is Kodaka's OC confirmed.

[@marylowrie4548]

Already shared this thought on reddit, but at 3:00:00 I think it's worth mentioning here too. Kaede seemed attracted to Tsumugi during their first interaction. Did Tsumugi write Kaede to feel that attraction?

[@逆巻スバル-f5h]

I'm actually really kinky...

[@OkamiKai6980]

@@逆巻スバル-f5h Shirogane Tsumugi, you naughty naughty girl!

[@edmonddantes6051]

I rate this game 0/10 not enough me in it

[@ninjaydes]

XD

[@toastofcatbread3207]

You don't even exist Byakudick how can you give it a rating

[@Elbon-the-Lolinator]

Our favorite douchbag

[@TenkoFan9035]

Actually that's what makes it a 10/10.

[@michantomi5733]

Yasss tenko

[@i.archanglezolx5481]

Oh my god!!! That voice acting is on point!!! I really love the ending because Danganronpa brings a concept I read and learned in philosophy such as would a person be the same person if they suddenly got new memories but have the same body. I am pretty sure there are better examples of philosophy but I am not anywhere close to an expert, but overall I love your LP!!! Keep up the work and Can’t Wait to see the analysis that bring up

[@MrWanton16]

Yeah, this ending was so controversial that it really overshadows the rest of the game. Some love it, some hate it. From a personal standpoint, I like the ending itself but I feel like the epilogue is kinda weak. It's a beautiful scene but I would have preferred the ending to be a schrondiger's cat whether everyone died or not. In addition, I think the whole meta thing is beat a bit too much over the head in the final trial.... not to mention I think Kiibo was really cheated out of a survivor slot(dying after the final trial... bleh..)Granted, I do like how insane the final twist is and I do think it's the perfect over the top ending of "Kodaka's" Dangan Ronpa.