The Smashing Pumpkins- To Forgive

[@theothergreenfairy]

Song reflects on Billy's childhood issues with his parents, particularly his father. You can read about those elsewhere, he's spoken of them for years. Abused, abandoned children learn to hide their grief and anger, they put on a false front of normalcy. That response gets them through but the habit is hard to break. As an adult it can be difficult to express emotion or respond to others in a acceptable way. It's isolating.

[@kevinstraw3731]

This is very true :(

[@remynath33]

:o !!!

[@kamronmccrea3354]

Couldn’t have put it better man… Venerability is next to impossible in current times……

[@notqali]

Disarm is actually written about his father.

[@wolfgang6442]

Omg I didn't even know that well i hope these days he's ok💔🖤

[@psychocuda]

One of the more underrated songs on this incredible album.

[@wolfgang6442]

Fr it is might be like my favorite outra the more slower tracks from mellie collie

[@ryanponder679]

proud to be your 100th upvote. awesome song

[@tnaus200]

beautiful song

[@lovealways01]

This song (whole album really) got me through some tough times. I shed a lot of tears to this song. This album will always be special to me.

[@PaulWashington..]

Jesus loves you. He said eternal life is to know Him and the Father. John 17:3.

[@iamb-side8613]

​@@PaulWashington.. With all due respect - Piss off Paul, ya brainwashed fool. U do your bullshit and please leave others alone. U dissolutional religious freaks r like pyramid selling nowadays. Do u really need the reassurance of so many others being fooled for u to believe u have not been fooled???

[@nativechica8337]

🖤One of the greatest albums EVER "Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness."🖤

[@somewhatdamaged2946]

That’s a fact🤘😝🤘

[@monkeyliver1986]

THE greatest

[@benjaminsuez442]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@KyleTheLEGOMaster]

Technically, a double. But, yes twice as good. Very right. Terrific. Iconic, even. Timeless. 1995. Perhaps the greatest year in all of music.

[@jessehumphreys2297]

Siamese dream was my favorite

[@SUBLIMINALSANITY]

While the others hype over Zero, and Bullet with Butterfly Wings, But its songs like this one, that are my personal forever faves. Traveling on grey hound buses from coast to coast. not knowing where I was going, Just me, My CD Player, and this album, This song on repeat at times, Some things you just lock in memory with your favorite songs playing in the mental background, that no one else hears.....Its a shame you cant share those kinda things with people..

[@CloudPeopleRecords]

this is a beautiful memory, and dare i say a wonderful way to live...

[@davidandrews6631]

I could not have said it better, this song is my memories.

[@butIforgotmypen...]

This was me, but with Adore. Greyhound bus, kicking back, listening to it on repeat, and just feeling. There will never be any band quite like Smashing Pumpkins to make you feel.

[@WestCoastBroodWar]

Hahah, same thing for me, Grey Hounding from Fort Jackson to Fort Gordon listening to this on CD. Also Adore.

[@butIforgotmypen...]

Mine was from Fort Jackson, to Montana...1998...ah, the memories.

[@loretta2539]

I use to listen to this song every night on my tv and just sink into my ocean of a bed and allow any feelings I pushed away to surface and let go of. thanks billy you help alot

[@SiliconBong]

*gives you kitten.

[@Psynwave]

“I forget to forget, nothing is important”

[@nikkilenoir3068]

The first time I heard this as a kid, it made me cry. To this day, it chills and makes my eyes water: those bitter sweet sounds.

[@anonymouse27]

Same. It dredges up the lowest memories.

[@jessejamez1983]

Nikki LeNoir samezies ...the whole album takes me back to hike skool ...my fav band and album

[@roystidomsthe2nd336]

Such a beautiful song yet it dredges up so much pain and sorrow in my own life. Amazing and it shows the power that music can have over our emotions and our lives.

[@stseantmusic]

Oh yeah this song makes you bleed

[@Seargent_Scraps]

I feel the same way even though I don't know what most of the lyrics mean

[@Madame1887]

Makes me remember someone truly amazing i lost. We were in a relationship in 1996 and The Smashing Pumpkins were the soundtrack to our love.. I can't forget him because that was one of the best times of my life.. I miss him and it hurts like a stab in the heart.

[@Abcdefghijklmno4840]

I AM SORRY TO HEAR THAT

[@MiniMagit]

This was like 20 years ago, move on

[@johnpangarakis396]

Bananaman 219 screw you. Just because time has passed doesn’t mean she should just forget it. The person had a real impact on her life, let her feel emotions

[@grimthompson6763]

Beautiful..I have lost my companion a year ago the pain is beautiful acutely

[@oweng6779]

@@MiniMagit Better to have loved and lost, than to just have your banana

[@OldSchoolLad]

i love listening to this song in rainy days, feeling melancholic and depressed...

[@libbyrigstad4545]

OldSchoolLad Mellon Coll-ic

[@Ezekiel_Allium]

@@libbyrigstad4545 someone beat me too it

[@cirobata3890]

Doing this right now.

[@christianritchie582]

Lyrics Ten times removed I forget about where it all began Bastard son of a bastard son of A wild eyed child of the sun And right as rain I'm not the same but I feel the same I feel nothing Holding back the fool again Holding back the fool pretends I forget to forget nothing is important Holding back the fool again I sensed my loss Before I even learned to talk And I remember my birthdays Empty party afternoons won't come back Holding back the fool again Holding back the fool pretends I forget to forget nothing is important Holding back the fool again I forget to forget me I forget to forget you see Nothing is important to me I knew my loss Before I even learned to speak And all along, I knew it was wrong But I played along, with my birthday song Holding back the fool again Holding back the fool pretends I forget to forget nothing is important Holding back the fool again

[@danieljohnston2444]

My vote for the best Pumpkins song

[@mikemcmahon5323]

def

[@wallyiverson4878]

It's top 10 for sure

[@capsuleboy]

For me it is #1 too. best of best.

[@IcarusMK22]

Daniel Johnston lol every pumpkins song.

[@starchamberlain]

Top 10 for me! Fuckin A!

[@SaulOKAY]

I climb into these songs and find a warm centre that protects me from the ugliness of life. I feel safe and I feel fulfilled. I can justify my beginning and end. I can feel alive. Music gave me a voice, and that voice is fighting. Billy Corgan gave me a hand when I needed it. An everlasting gaze at my enemies

[@POZOLEDECARAMELITO]

This is the first time I listen to this album completely. After feeling like I am the loneliest person on earth, I am outside my house, I have the keys but I'm not going to enter until this wonderful moment end.

[@jbc2225]

Hope it never ended

[@starwinksbackfromtheskypit6790]

These are my wonder years. This has inspired me to quit drinking and all the other shit that comes with it and create music. Now I’m in a awesome band that creates music from this era and play in packed out venues. I owe a lot of my success and grace to the Pumpkins. Much love to them. Forever and always.

[@michellee321]

I remember snuggling up to my high school sweetheart while this song was playing. It was dark and we were on his futon and I could not get over how perfect this song was. This takes me back.

[@flippertheslid3642]

It's cool when a perfect song comes on at a perfect time!

[@ZanzibarWizard]

Chet Ripley lmao

[@kurtandersson1425]

Damn, man. There are so many gems on this album. Everyone knows of Tonight, Tonight and 1979 but this track really captures the essence of the album. Breathtaking.

[@NatalieSpa888]

Ten times removed I forget about where it all began Bastard son of a bastard son of A wild eyed child of the sun And right as rain, I'm not the same but I feel the same, I feel nothing Holding back the fool again Holding back the fool pretends I forget to forget nothing is important Holding back the fool again I sensed my loss Before I even learned to talk And I remember my birthdays Empty party afternoons won't come back Holding back the fool again Holding back the fool pretends I forget to forget nothing is important Holding back the fool again I forget to forget me I forget to forget you see Nothing is important to me I knew my loss Before I even learned to speak And all along, I knew it was wrong But I played along, with my birthday song Holding back the fool again Holding back the fool pretends I forget to forget nothing is important Holding back the fool again

[@JerseyMcgee81]

i think he says "sensed my lows" not loss.

[@DazedConfusionTo]

+jersey Mcgee it actually is loss, my friend

[@theladyjacqueline]

Jesus I used to fully ache and wallow in my own misery listening to this in highschool

[@DAREALFARMZ]

Thanks for the lyrics, from a former CD owner.

[@sugarsore]

fool pretense*

[@adriennebrowder5742]

Oh, pumpkins. It's always a flood of nostalgia.

[@Natamity]

The Pumpkins create such a beautiful atmosphere, like that of a magical time long lost.. hard to explain if you don't feel it. Their video clips from the Melon Collie era conjure the same.

[@robertr560]

You’ve just summed it up perfectly

[@eduardoduran7805]

favorite song of the record.

[@rexslayerzzgaming7493]

This is always my go-to album when i'm in the dark place.

[@crapObear2323]

I never understood why this song wasn't a single off the album, it has everything in it worthy of one. Anyone else agree?

[@IrOnMaIdEn1912]

crapObear2323 I AGREE

[@t-man5196]

crapObear2323 A lot of their songs are like that. Great songs that don't get pointed out as being great by the implementation of "single-ism".

[@lananasser9590]

crapObear2323 Agreed. Irks my soul. I wish I could live in the world of The Smashing Pumpkins. I hate the fact that I missed out..

[@123lowp]

+crapObear2323 Tracks one to eight on the first disc of Mellon Collie could all be singles. Corgan wrote so many great songs, that it's hard to release all as singles.

[@lunasumire2825]

yes definitely!!!

[@mat11trick]

I sensed my loss, before I even learned to talk. Damn these words are deep. Since the day Melancholy was released, this song damn near brings me to tears every time 🚬

[@dezcruz8355]

*Mellon Collie* :)

[@Dope_Operator]

i sensed my lost before i even learned to talk. This song takes me back to middle school, makes me smile. ive listened too every type of music in my life and while now me and my friends listen to rap and shit like that, this is real music and i will always love billy corgan and the smashing pumpkins for reminding me of what "real" music should sound like.

[@TimShaw81]

Same here!

[@superiorautism]

Nick Ruby I like SP too, but underneath every video I go to with music of any genre, someone like you is saying "____ is real music" and/or "_____ isn't real music". It's more than a bit dogmatic.

[@TheStrossus]

Nick Ruby I take it you are in you 20's. You will soon forget how bad rap is, and revert back to good music like this.

[@derekgerritsen103]

TheStrossus hm...I thought we were past this as a general populace. I could link you some..."good"? rap? ...but something tells me you wouldn't watch them, or watch them with a predisposed opinion about them...(watch?v=oh03JO6EFjo, watch?v=QSUXJhxdBZA, watch?v=RfQfK7OCW4M) In any case, I hope you watch, but listen. :)

[@DrunkenKnowledge]

Nick Ruby funny how in the comments of rap music you never see a comment about rock music, white people are just racist btw all music is real... Dumb ass

[@nightsystem]

This song brings back a lot of good memories and some really sad ones growing up as a kid. Still trying to forgive those sad years.

[@nastycanadian1975]

"I forget to forgive, nothing is important" LOVE this song

[@robashlicarrafa4876]

It was surreal when I 1st heard this song. It totally described my feelings, thoughts, regrets, emotions up to that point in my life. I never fit in or was like every one else. I felt a sense of relief knowing I could identify with some one else for once. The nostalgia of this song sends a shiver throughout my body.

[@monkeyliver1986]

this song is a work of art.

[@chriscole9621]

i luv dis song is ma favorte

[@monkeyliver1986]

Chris Cole mine too

[@lambda494]

"I sensed my loss...before I even learned to talk." This song got me through some really dark times. I love how soothing it is right after Bullet With Butterfly Wings.

[@gretchendogmawalls3704]

I lost my 25 year old son Feb 11 th 2016 to heroin disease this is his song for my perfect sun father and brother love mom "PUNKIN Boy" his nickname since he was born ... mom loves tony AAF FLH 48 X

[@chrisgrondin1684]

I lost my brother Andrew to heroin a month ago. He loved this song as well.

[@WestCoastBroodWar]

Sorry about the loss of your son, Heroin is no joke.. I had to step away from this music because it put me into the mindset of my old ways. Sometimes I think stepping away from depressive culture helped me in many way to better cope with every day anxieties. Every now and then I'll pop a record in, but then I feel the depression consume me again, so I shut it off. Many prayers and thoughts for your family and your loss , this country and many young people are losing their lives to this junk. One day hopefully we can move past this.

[@abdelkrimbidani7163]

RIP to your son

[@mathiasalvez9750]

Rip

[@lucasrastall7917]

Hope you’re well. Your Son is at peace. I’m so sorry heroin is truly the death of the good and young. I’m clean 4 years but am finally kicking my suboxone/methadone for the first time. God bless you and I hope you are at peace too.

[@user-xf8xk6hw9m]

for those that like to sing along and love this song -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ten times removed I forget about where it all began Bastard son of a bastard son of A wild eyed child of the sun And right as rain I'm not the same but I feel the same I feel nothing Holding back the fool again Holding back the fool pretends I forget to forget nothing is important Holding back the fool again I sensed my loss Before I even learned to talk And I remember my birthdays Empty party afternoons won't come back Holding back the fool again Holding back the fool pretends I forget to forget nothing is important Holding back the fool again I forget to forget me I forget to forget you see Nothing is important to me I sensed my loss Before I even learned to speak And all along I knew it was wrong But I played along with my birthday song Holding back the fool again Holding back the fool pretends I forget to forget nothing is important Holding back the fool again.............

[@mashleyadventures9425]

i dont have a lot of memories but i do remember my teenage junkie mom playing this and other stuff when i was younger. I grew up with a great appreciation for music because of that.

[@AnmitsuKokoro]

im a teenage junkie mom :)

[@skyfox490]

Not only is this my favorite Pumpkins song, but one of my favorite songs of all time. When I hear it, I hear the sound of pure love, acceptance and euphoria. It’s very comforting

[@antiprohibit]

Just heard this song for the first time since I was a teenager. I remember feeling like I would never fit in and feel accepted. Glad I didn't make any permanent decisions.

[@GG.Sanchoo]

Dude this song is, I can’t even describe it, it’s so good

[@greenman717]

This song was playing in my head when I woke this morning, what a great way to start my day!

[@anthonyfuqua6988]

This and The Bends. My favourite albums of 1995.

[@jaetguz]

The minor details of this song. How tranquil, soft and beautiful it is. That is one thing I love about Mellon Collie. It isn't overproduced. It feels raw. The instruments don't feel exact or robotized. It feels lively and as if the recordings were made with the intention of it being as pure and vulnerable as possible. This gargantuan called Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is a masterpiece because of all the moments it carries. It will always remain in time as a beautiful thing!

[@confectioninfection]

this song always elicits chills. 🖤🖤🖤

[@jorgeAK73]

The only thing worse than the birthdays that were forgotten are the ones that were remembered.

[@lilycallis4380]

It's got such a moving rhythm. All of their songs seem to have a great rhythm.

[@michellegrundy8219]

This whole album makes me feel alive xx

[@parrots84]

one of my favorite songs of this album

[@henrydover7752]

Nice touch to follow Bullet' with this song; the art of song-ordering, and timing between them is what makes albums greater than the sum of their parts. Pumpkins (Billy) always had a great feel for juxtaposition, and the concept of loud-quiet-loud being effective on an a larger scale than just chorus/verse. It's best appreciated having listened to the preceding track. Like coming up for air after being tumbled by whitewater

[@monkeyliver1986]

This album came out a few weeks before I was born. And it's the soundtrack to my life

[@bobbifoxification]

Always feel like such an old codger when I say "Music ain't what it used to be.". But it's true!

[@numbertwo5800]

What the fuck is a codger

[@flippertheslid3642]

I'm a ol codger as well then. And I'm sick of seeing people bitch when I say that our generations music was supieor ,70s and 90s were the greatest times for music . Hands down ,point blank.

[@Inpatientsnake]

Cougar? Well at least the cougar part looks mostly right 😂

[@lamshae6070]

Silo Kurniawan *doesn’t make you feel.

[@theo7riesen]

music isn't supposed to be what it used to be.

[@matthewjdouglas6471]

My girlfriend lived alone with her mother, they moved 17 times in 10 years. Two schools per year on average. She said she was so unhappy, no brother no sister no father. To say she has some issues is an understatement. Abusive stepfathers. Alcohol and drugs and neglected. Breaks my heart.

[@MateusCastro29]

Depois de 10 anos encontrar essa musica, é como se tivesse voltado ao passado... Um mix de sentimentos 😢❤️

[@mseraseth1]

This song totally captures my mood right now. Perfect.

[@jenniferbayes3312]

One of the BEST albums EVER!! I wish I could bottle the way every one of these songs makes me feel. ❤

[@kamderrick2857]

Yes Melon Colie and Infinite Sadness is for sure one of the greats.When you listen to the songs you can get back to how you feel again .

[@Herbalizer28]

@@kamderrick2857 Awesome double-album...but Siamese Dreams is still the better one !

[@MM6D]

When I first discovered the Pumpkins this was one of the songs I always skipped. Now it’s one of the few I put on repeat.

[@spooookie2u]

"Ten times removed I forget about where it all began Bastard son of a bastard son of A wild eyed child of the sun And right as rain, I'm not the same but I feel the same, I feel nothing Holding back the fool again Holding back the fool pretends I forget to forget nothing is important Holding back the fool again I sensed my loss Before I even learned to talk And I remember my birthdays Empty party afternoons won't come back Holding back the fool again Holding back the fool pretends I forget to forget nothing is important Holding back the fool again I forget to forget me I forget to forget you see Nothing is important to me I knew my loss Before I even learned to speak And all along, I knew it was wrong But I played along, with my birthday song Holding back the fool again Holding back the fool pretends I forget to forget nothing is important Holding back the fool again"

[@TeCHnORiOT]

Thank you for providing the lyrics.

[@gabrielcarvalho7191]

2:37 eargasm

[@watchdog304]

Gabriel Carvalho LOVE that part!

[@alexstrolls801]

Yes

[@mad_mobmusic]

0:00 eargasm

[@LeviJean1021]

Soulgasm

[@pearlgirl5643]

I forgot how good this album is!

[@serg10st]

SP..one of the greatest bands of my life time! Billy Corgan's music help me get through rough times.

[@AndrewGlobal-0784]

Thanks SP for make my life happier and full of memories when a listen these beautiful Songs. Here in Venezuela you have lots of fans. We will never FORGET you guys...

[@radmilailic5564]

All I know is that you definitely have this God given voice that touches the soul. I forget sometimes that I use to have one. I am so drained out but that beautiful sound that comes out from inside of you Billy Corgan its amazing. Is it love is it a light is it beauty I do not know.I just know I felt something listening to this song.

[@kavijackson868]

This song is so soothing!

[@xPTRIXx]

So depressing but so good at the same time, its hard to explain.

[@TheJuice23]

A rapper named XV has a song called Smallville with this sample. J. Cole produced it

[@es_for1]

+Damian Cruz holy fuck. listened to his mixtapes so many years ago. i still listen to a couple songs of his occasionally but i got more into music like this. heard the bassline and i was like this is familiar then i heard the lyrics and realised.

[@VAPORFEELS]

+Damian Cruz nice

[@sov13t_skum30]

2021...sitting on the porch in the country. Life has given me so much and somehow I still cant grasp enough to forgive

[@DizzyKitsune]

One of my personal favourites from the album too, beautiful song.

[@TheDillio187]

great tune, and a totally badass in the bass dept.

[@onielsg2642]

Poetry is lost this days, only a few flashes but nothing like grunge era. Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Stone Temples Pilots, Pearl jam, Smashing pumpkins, Soundgarden, Red Hot, Staind, Bush, Linda Perry, Cranberries............ ( ALL THIS BANDS GRATE SONGS LYRICS AND GOOD MUSIC )

[@Rodrigombia1990]

Gavin Rossdale used to be an amazing lyricist.

[@dstrubs23]

can we please not put STAIND in that group please. i agree though

[@Rodrigombia1990]

Dude staind was my favourite band when I was a teenager, break the cycle rulz.

[@adriannomazzorrato6732]

Oniel SG sublime

[@vampgrl79]

Oniel SG I cannot agree more. This new generations music SUCKS. Mine was the best of it's generation. So glad I was a teen in the mid 90's.

[@allenhall3272]

Absolutely amazing. Wish I could sing my pain out like that.

[@josiahham7280]

God bless 2021 I remember when thi album dropped in 95🏁

[@nealmackenzie9858]

Remember listening to this song while relaxing for the little amount we got, sitting on the bunk during prep for deployment. Calming

[@gemini663181]

perfection!!! i love the pumpkins!!

[@maestro-zq8gu]

Either this album is timeless or humanity needs a time out.

[@ShadowTheFoxGirl]

This song sounds like what depression feels like.

[@Capius1272]

Close. It's what the '90s felt like. With a white light at the end. Apologies if I stole your Mellon Collie.

[@laureniek]

Nope. Nothing beautiful about depression.

[@josephliptak3183]

@@laureniek except getting relief from it.

[@vvtangy]

One of my favorites from Pumpkins

[@matthewarruda7451]

You did it again, Kass!!! Another Masterpiece finally posted (instead of covers) THANK YOU x 10!!!

[@timmarcum721]

This is a beautiful song

[@kevinthepaladin235]

There are some bands whom every single song kick ass this is one of em

[@GiuseppeGaribaldi46664]

Christ !!!! that voice shift down from billy a 1/3rd trough this masterpiece makes me weep

[@dominic2014]

I woke up with this song playing in my head. Bastard son of a bastard son of a... holding back the fool again. Now that is powerful song writing. Touching my subconscious from a decade past. Ty Smashing Pumpkins.

[@ShroomRPG]

There just isn't a band on earth better than the pumpkins.

[@rodgersmythe6579]

Radiohead

[@matthewbritt8498]

+Rodger Smythe can't compare

[@caleron0]

radiohead is on the same level

[@Locit]

Yeah but I feel like they never produced an album as complete enough as some of the pumpkins albums. Like this album had such a contrast of emotions where as I felt earlier radiohead albums were alot more just majority 'sad/mellow' vibes.

[@haree8047]

Sonic youth.

[@gemini663181]

Another very important song!!! you are a natural!!! we are so pleased to see that others are strong in real music!!

[@davidlucy0327]

Saved my life changes s bad day to good.

[@livc5703]

This track is one of my all time favorite

[@Xessa82]

its probably one of my favs from afi. i think one of the most heartfelt songs. am going now to listen to it :)

[@goodeldash]

This sounds like it could be a RHCP song, awesome track

[@Kevlexicon]

class tells over time.

[@Quincy2guns]

Over/under on when this gets taken down....?? Love this song! And thanks for getting this uploaded!

[@jorjarayne6514]

i have always loved this song, it's so beautiful and meaningful

[@kowtpr187]

This is one of my favorite songs off this album.......very underated;...

[@MrDanielr80]

the suspected back story to this song (and Billy's childhood in general) is amazingly heartbreaking and it makes me love Billy just that much more!

[@dallasboringnews8193]

I knew my loss before I ever learned to speak

[@MrBishnuu]

I need this now, like i did back then.

[@JSmith2501]

One of my favorite B-sides from this album. Classic manic-depressive music!

[@dogsbusiness]

***** a "b-side" is a song that doesn't appear on an album, and is the extra song given when you buy a single. this is on the album so not a b-side :)

[@rreimera]

+dogsbusiness it originally means the b-side of a record. The song is on the fucking b-side of his record so maybe your millennial ass can take a hike.

[@dogsbusiness]

Rolf Reimer Andersen Almost right, but completely wrong. It refers to the B-side on a 45rpm record, ie. a SINGLE. Albums also have b-sides but the term comes from the flipside of a single, a popular song from an album, it would have a b-side that was usually (but not always) a non album track, or sometimes an alternative version of the a-side.

[@problemdrinker]

...he's not 'almost' right (which of course you are), just completely wrong. And said with such arrogance and vigour as well. Entertaining.

[@toyplum1420]

who gives a toss what he or anybody else looks like. Its the talent that any individual has, that makes them stand out above the crowd

[@bloodymasakur]

Love that you post these! BTW, I for one like the photo.

[@BVargas78]

Music from the heart.

[@breathminttea2447]

Sometimes a feeling is so specific it requires a four minute song to express. This is one of those times.

[@ernstvanstangl1048]

Yes

[@ashtonf.8287]

Most underrated SP song. Beautiful on all levels.

[@yellabyrd5821]

Have always loved this.So emotional

[@connie5732]

this is a fabulous picture, and suits the song. they can bite it.

[@MichaelCollins1962]

Underrated song from a fantastic album

[@taraschumacker]

The pumpkins got me through addiction.