The Smiths and Morrissey: Tony Wilson 05 (of 6)

[@notdrivingaminimetro]

He always referred to him as Steven, defo a dig 🤣

[@odw_99]

That’s true- although he did first get to know him when he was just Steven, so it might’ve just stuck

[@DavidKArrrrgh]

It’s literally his name

[@2112jonr]

So, defo' not a dig. Steven is his name. Tony knew him when he was nothing. And after he became nothing again.

[@marguskiis7711]

He shows how he despises Mozz

[@1seansouth]

I love Tony Wilson way more than Morrissey, who really is a nasty person behind it all. I love that Tony has his notes written on his palm - he has a lot of hate to get through!

[@thedr.feelgood]

Yep.... the poor woman at the record company... what a cunt !

[@Daffy310]

Tony sucks

[@drparnassus2867]

If Roger Ames is from Trinidad, why did Michael Winterbottom get *Keith Allen* to play him?

[@wesmatron]

Vini Reily for £200 per week? Just proves vegetarians can get mad cow disease too.

[@2112jonr]

I had strong opinions as a teenager about the sort of human being Morrissey was, even when numerous people were fawning over him, sickeningly. History has proven my intuition to be right. Watching this has just raised my opinion of the late Mr. Wilson still further, and cemented exactly what I thought of Morrissey all those years ago. Trust your intuition about people. 😀

[@melsagelord3991]

No, still bitter old Tony.

[@Reprodestruxion]

Conclusion: never beg

[@GaitaPonto]

The fact is that Morrissey, apart from being a genius song writer, could never be as successful as he was as part of The Smiths. Tony is right.

[@2112jonr]

Are you saying Morrissey's planet sized ego got in the way? 😀

[@GaitaPonto]

@@2112jonr yes, I guess this would be the case too 😁, but the main factor was Marr. Not even his current success level as a solo artist wouldn't be possible if he wasn't part of The Smiths. I would say he is still producing Smiths material by replicating Marr's melodies but it lacks Marr's quality, freshness and energy.

[@GuyCybershy]

Morrissey has never come close to recording an album as good as Viva Hate so Vini Reilly must have a lot more to do with it than is publicly admitted.

[@emartinezr]

He's recorded BETTER albums than Viva Hate. But... VH has the last remnants of the Smiths sound with him through Stephen Street.

[@rael1999]

@@emartinezr ...Reilly allegedly contributed loads to the Viva Hate album but never got the credit....not really surprised. Morrissey and Marr never really gave Rourke and Joyce the credit for the contributions to The Smiths sound.

[@madforit2]

Your Arsenal Vauxhall and I You are the quarry All better

[@29memyselfandi]

@@madforit2 also I am not a Dog an a Chain, his last album, is a humdinger. His best in my opinion. 7 great songs on it.

[@darrenwalshe65]

Tony being a bit like Morrissey with some of his comments! croydon

[@thephoenix3155]

Not as extreme, though.

[@DavidKArrrrgh]

They are quite similar, neither is quite as clever as they think they are. Both play it up

[@DavidKArrrrgh]

Camp cutting bully Vs camp cutting bully

[@2112jonr]

You've evidently never been there. It's a hole. Dreadful place. Female staff at the Home Office were only recently being stalked outside their offices on a regular basis in broad daylight. Grim place.

[@13strange67]

Tony Wilson's Dad was 'GAY' ? ! How did that happen ?

[@outsidethepyramid]

oh yeah i never thought of that lmao

[@1800555fear]

He came out sometime after Tony was born...

[@obiwanshinobi5098]

Well he was at least bisexual enough to ejaculate into tonys mum and make a baby Tony. Cant be 100% gay and do that! Lol

[@DavidKArrrrgh]

@@1800555fear his story about finding out after seeing his father emerge from a public lavatory hand in hand with another guy is an absolute whopper

[@bendyman_72]

£1,500 for Vini for 3 weeks. Bargain...

[@twitchygiraffe4636]

Morrissey’s a tight fisted cunt of a mummy’s boy and that’s from an(ex) fan! We (the english fans that is!) mean fuck all to him and obviously so does musicians and anyone who helps him! I hope the worst happens for him for the rest of his life!!!!

[@twitchygiraffe4636]

Ha! Ha! Ha! Nice one I do a bit! But it has to be said that Mozzer has stood on a few fingers in his time!!!!!

[@neilaspin008]

Fucking hell! Is that how much he got paid?

[@twitchygiraffe4636]

It’s good the that Tony speaks out about this abomination of a man who thinks it’s ok to casually ruin people who have helped him get what he wants! Although Maladjusted (apt name for a album by him to say the least!) is a great album and probably the last great album he’s had, I am glad universal dropped him once they took over island records, because no one wants a difficult arsehole artist who is not flexible to have to deal with at a major record label!!!!

[@joenicholls461]

That’s a pretty big chip on Wilson’s shoulder about London isn’t it ..

[@lenfirewood4089]

No just Croydon!

[@DavidKArrrrgh]

Tray of chips and gravy

[@2112jonr]

No, just Steven Morrissey. And I'd not call it a chip. And Croydon was and still is a total hole, where female staff at the Home Office get stalked as they leave work. At least Tony lived in London for quite some time. Unlike wankface.

[@CruceEntertainment]

I love the Smiths and love Morrissey, but Morrissey would be nobody without the Smiths.

[@lancashirebomber9744]

he was the only one to go and create great stuff after the smiths, so yr wrong.

[@jojohairee9987]

@@lancashirebomber9744 no he's not the only one what are you on about. Johnny Marr had a very successful career after the smiths playing with bands like modest mouse, the preteder, electronic, and even guest playing with oasis.

[@joshbaino3087]

@@lancashirebomber9744 But he wouldn't be able to have all the people on those later records without the initial fame with The Smiths

[@Daffy310]

@@jojohairee9987 Um nope

[@2112jonr]

@@lancashirebomber9744 Yeah. He's the only one who's also proven himself to be a complete tosser, too.x 😀

[@greggbelt9387]

Nobody wonder I stopped listening to Morrissey at the right time.

[@mickdevlin]

Pop music is NOT art. Pop music is pop music. Fair play to Tony Wilson though.......he always called people out.

[@thephoenix3155]

I’ve never liked Morrissey I always thought his voice was creepy.

[@2112jonr]

He's a total tosser.

[@Daffy310]

Oh Tony what a sad little person you are.

[@2112jonr]

Better sad than racist. x 🙂

[@Springheeledjim5]

@@2112jonrWho’s racist ?

[@melsagelord3991]

Bitter.

[@2112jonr]

True. Steven did get more and more so with age. Total tosser.