The Snooker vs Pool Debate - Judd Trump's 2021 U.S. Open Journey

[@SonOfTheSoil834]

I wish to see the pool players on a snooker table 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@jaspalah]

most asian, eu and me pool players are pretty decent at snooker too. in the US its probably different because of "the lack of space" so they stay on the toysrus pool table most of the time or 10ft "snooker" tables lol.

[@SonOfTheSoil834]

@@jaspalah at professional level like the likes of O’Sullivan trump Selby hendry and Davis did

[@mr.lootybutthole]

@@SonOfTheSoil834 there have been times where top pool players played maon tour but didn't perform too well, just like the other one around. Only 1 time a snooker pro won a pool tournament, after he had already been translating to pool for six years. Selby, white and davis have always played both games, so they did a bit better then other snooker pros.

[@SonOfTheSoil834]

@@mr.lootybutthole 👍🏾

[@ayubisf]

@@mr.lootybutthole i'm actually really hoping for selby to try a 9-ball game since he originally came from UK pool if i'm not mistaken

[@flyabusa]

As a snooker fan, it was fun watching Judd try something outside of his wheelhouse. It would be equally interesting to see a 3-rail player like Dick Jaspers or Semih Saygıner enter the US Open and see how they fare.

[@andrew_owens7680]

That game is TOO different. Reyes is the only one I know who even tried to bridge the gap. However, skills he learned in carom made Reyes a unique force to be reckoned with. I watched Sayginer play live and give an expo. The physicists need to study him. He breaks all the rules of physics.

[@Gotwired]

Blomdahl is insanely good at pool, probably better than any snooker player. I think he might be the most talented cueist in the world (although he is up there in age).

[@andrew_owens7680]

@@Gotwired Perhaps he started pool when he was already old. I watched him live at Sang Lee's in Queens. I miss Sang Lee. He was one of the sweetest people on the planet.

[@dippegalant]

Back in the late 80's or the early 90's, I actually played pool against some of the best 3-rail players in Denmark. Nelin and Sørensen and they were great at pool (a lot better than me, ha, even if I did play in the top division at the time), but they weren't at the level of the best pool players (Nielsen, who has beaten Earl Strickland and has been ranked #1 in the world in 2000) in my country and certainly not on the world stage. Nelin and Sørensen became team world champs in 3-rail in 1995 and Nelin and Laursen won that title the year after. Nelin has won silver at the world champs and Sørensen has won bronze, so they are absolute class. If they practised pool as much as they practised 3-rail, they would also have become world class players there, absolutely. Any cue master could learn to play the other games, but I believe that pool is the more forgiving game of pool, caram (rail) and snooker. While they require different skill sets to master, once you get into the mindset of the game itself - and that takes a couple of years of hard practise - a master can play them all. However, pool is clearly easier to learn. We've seen masters of the other games go and play pool at a relatively high level, including for instance Davis and Ronnie beating the best at pool and Selby (all three are snooker players) winning a high ranking pool tournament. We've also seen snooker players do very well in the Mosconi Cup with Davis being one of the players with the most wins historically. Also Reyes went from caram to pool and was probably the best pool player ever. No one has really made it from pool to either caram or snooker and done as well, not even close to it.

[@neuvocastezero1838]

Check out when Blomdahl and Reyes played against each other 3 cushion and 9 ball, it's great.

[@daveolifent4477]

I grew up playing pool and switched to snooker in my 30s. There is nothing more humbling than being a guy who can run a table at 8-ball to struggling to make a 20-point break in snooker. I love both games, but I think one of the best things you can do to improve your pool game is to practice snooker. The level of focus you need and accuracy of your cueing motion to make a long pot across a snooker table really teaches you how to get in the zone.

[@samuelgarrod8327]

I played 8 ball for a pub team. I always went for an hour at snooker before a match, it was a big help in my game.

[@hermankermit-warm1121]

@@daveolifent4477 there's a reason snooker pros can hop on a pool table and give world class pool players a real run for their money, yet no world class pool players will dare go anywhere near a snooker table to play a world class pro, they'd get demolished. It's just obvious to anyone who's actually played both which one takes more skill.

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

@@daveolifent4477 I shot pool balls on a snooker table as a drill to improve my aim It was impossible at first, two wools later I could make most of them.

[@PresidentScrooge]

The thing is. Pool is objectively the easier game. Table is smaller, pockets are bigger, less rules on what you are allowed to do. That being said - being a simpler game doesn't matter at the peak of skill. Because there players are so incredibly good that their sheer skill is making it just as difficult as Snooker. Thats just the nature of the beast when you compete at the highest level. Then everything becomes difficult. People like Steve Davis, Jimmy White, Mark selby or Ronnie OSullivan grew up playing Snooker but also at least some Pool while Trump is a pure Snooker player. Hence everyone with half a clue knew he would eventually struggle against the top players. I wouldn't be surprised seeing Trump next year again, though. He is probably competitive enough that it bothers him to lose like that.

[@Erkkremlinklum]

@kosinus great points

[@MegaHooper25]

@kosinus - Pool is definitely easier 😂

[@gtab1268]

@kosinus sorry, but I agree with OP. Most of the time position play on a pool table is literally child's play especially in 9 ball and I think youre forgetting or maybe don't know that the reds in snooker normally take up about 3 feet by 3 feet of the table since the best strategy is to move the reds as little as possible on break. When a player is having a good frame in snooker I.e. potting ball after ball they only use about half the table. Position shots in snooker are much more difficult and require more consistency as for safety shots it is definitely easier to do them in snooker but you don't even see safety shots in 9 ball certainly not in proportion to how many you see in snooker. In my opinion the size of the pockets and length of the table supersedes your points and ultimately makes the game easier for example youre point about a mistake being more deadly I will agree with. But why is that the case? Because it is so much easier to run a rack in pool then to pot every remaining ball or enough to gaurentee a win in snooker. I think pool at world class level it is harder to win at for each player since a degree of luck at that level is a more significant factor than for an average player.

[@diesvenja9623]

It’s not objectively easier. It requires different skills with more focus on pocketing in snooker and more focus on position in pool. Good position play compensates larger table size and smaller pockets in most cases. Smaller table makes pocketing easier but play pool on a 7 foot table instead of a 9 foot table and position play gets a lot harder as the position windows get smaller and blocking of balls gets more likely. Pattern play is different as you try to clear balls from the rail in snooker whilst you position on them in pool. Rules are different in the disciplines making nine ball different from eight ball and again different from straight pool. Would even say pool allows less than snooker. Most comparable to snooker would probably be straight pool. Would be interesting to see pro snooker players against pro pool players in that discipline. Safety play is a lot harder in pool as you have to hit a rail after first contact. Not just rolling the white behind a ball as in snooker. Also no foul and miss as in snooker. You get one chance to get out of a safety and ideally leave a resafe. If you fail, ball in hand for the opponent and with that loss of the game in most cases.

[@PresidentScrooge]

@kosinus Which was exactly my point in my post. You can't just go into Pool and expecting to crush it just because you are great at Snooker. Because the competition in both are so ridiculously high that even if pool is the slightly simpler game, its still just as hard due to the competition. That being said there is a reason why there are a bunch of Snooker players having been moderately successful in Pool, but not the other way around.

[@Chris-bm5qd]

I'm a huge snooker fan, but never thought Judd would pose a threat. Truth is, the pool players today are far better than they were when Jimmy, Ronnie, and Davis played, and crossing over was bound to be more difficult.

[@kuyanik8002]

Yes that's correct in general.. The Stricklands and the Varners of the time are only pool shooters.. But to every rule, there is an exception.. Efren, Bustamante and the Filipino pool invasion rocked the pool world.. After that, it's not all about pocketing.. There are bank safeties, two-way shots, multiple banks, banks from jaws of the pocket, exhibition like shots etc..

[@daz0086]

What bs you are talking.

[@24magiccarrot]

The point is Trump was at least able to be competitive even if he lost at pool. The pool player however would't be competitive at snooker

[@delayedcreator4783]

@@24magiccarrot no sh*t

[@s98715]

@@24magiccarrot Trump was not competitive. He only beat amateurs and the first professional he played (Shaw) he lost 11-1.

[@evilzzzability]

I love knocking balls around a pool table as much as the next guy but Snooker is devilishly difficult in comparison

[@haydenwalton2766]

the chances of a snooker player winning a major pool tournament - extremely low. the chances of a pool player winning a major snooker tournament - zero

[@TheGodParticle]

My highest break was 23 and I've been playing for decades. Cheers

[@shovon9412]

so? pool has never been about your potting abilities. Obviouls if you had an ounce had grey matter in ur little head you would have figured it out.

[@iainnic4305]

They're different games, absolutely. Was nice to see a bit of crossover. Snooker is still top of the cue sport tree for me but I enjoy both. Maybe worth pointing out that Jayson Shaw himself was a snooker player at junior level, so it's definitely easier for a snooker player to crossover and be a good pool player than it is in reverse - but it's never going to be like for like.

[@sohorabhossain4615]

Mark Selby enters the chat.

[@Romans8-9]

@@sohorabhossain4615 Mark Selby started playing snooker at 9 years of age, he is as much as a snooker player as he is a pool player. Just because he started pool the year before doesn´t make him exclusively a pool player. The argument is whether a pool player who only plays pool can suddenly begin to play snooker as an adult against snooker pros and actually win. The answer is a very definitive no. Ronnie O´Sullivan on the other hand, has wins over and competitive matches with pool world champions.

[@red88alert]

Snooker is for poor people.

[@pesmerga182]

@@red88alert haha a table cost 10x more than a pool table

[@truthsayerq7264]

​@red88alert So why is Reyes a pauper in comparison to O'Sullivan, Hendry, Davis etc? A good season for a snooker player can see well over £1,000,000 in prize money, however a good season for a pool player is around $100-150k. Pool is the much poorer relative here. You need to educate yourself.

[@edmann1820]

I was searching for Pool player tries Snooker. This was the top result. If pool players aren't even attempting snooker, just in a fun way, I think the debate is settled.

[@bennylloyd-willner9667]

Good video, I love the respect you have for both sides and we should all just appreciate the players amazing abilities in both sports. It's very much like Indycar and Formula 1, why cant we just enjoy and respect both?

[@Mandolatron]

Good analogy

[@Adrenaline416]

Indycar and F1 fans DO get along...the minute NASCAR comes on.

[@bennylloyd-willner9667]

@@Adrenaline416 😂😂 there's always someone to pick on 😁

[@bennylloyd-willner9667]

@Starhawk Flying Bright yup it repeats it because I agree that we should show respect in both directions. For me, it is not an interesting or relevant question to ask "who is best at what other sport" , I'm just enjoying it all.

[@a34rwl]

because Pool is childishly easy compared to Snooker.

[@1Caplaw]

Didn't read through all the comments, and I'm sure someone else has posted a similar sentiment. Excellent video, excellence commentary, and perfect tone / insight into Judd and the snooker v. pool debate. Judd showed great respect, and class. The guy is a fantastic cue sport athlete.

[@kierontreanor1344]

Decent cover of the story - but Judd was put up against it coming up against Shaw in R4. Would have been fascinating to see him play a top 30 player, as opposed to a guy that quite simply is the best when he’s playing/breaking well. (I play 9-ball but I’m also a big snooker fan)

[@jrw0707]

Idk who it is he lost to in the loser bracket but it probably wasn’t a top 30 player. I didn’t think Judd was going to win but expected him to do better. I’m also a snooker fan and when you watch them play it just seems like of course, any pro snooker player can hold their own against the best pool players, especially since they did so well in the late 90’s and early 00’. I’m just a average 540 Fargo so what the hell do I know…. I guess I still feel that the 25 best snooker players would fare better at pool than pool players playing snooker, and I know that is going to get all sorts of undies in a bunch just my opinion. Cheers to all and be nice!

[@Gotwired]

He lost to a 739 on the losers side, that would be around a top 400 fargo rated player, maybe a top 800-1000 if you include players that aren't fargo rated.

[@kosembnihat]

I love videos like this. You were really cool and fair on the analysis of the situation. Couldn't said any better, great vid!

[@jenni5104]

Seriously? He was butthurt and whiny as hell.

[@iamaced479]

Snooker is wayyyyyyy harder, it shouldn’t even be a discussion! It’s like saying mini golf is harder because real golf players aren’t the best at it

[@lo0ksik]

3 cushion, russian piramids.. snooker guys lose to amateurs there , different games

[@robinthebobin6537]

As a snooker fan, yes, I do think a lot of the aspects of snooker, safety etc ARE harder than pool. However I respect that there is a lot more to pool than potting balls: bank shots, jump shots, carams, combos, kicks perfect safety shots that prevent trickshot escapes, having to run the whole rack or lose despite maybe potting 8 out of 9 of the balls. The fact is, pool players are better than snooker players at pool, and no, I'm not a delusional snooker fan who thinks any snooker player can waltz into a 9 ball tournament and crush everyone. HOWEVER, I do want to see a 9 ball player compete in a pro snooker tournament at one point (a bit of a pain with the strange ranking system), because yes, I do believe theyd find it harder to play snooker rather than the other way around. Fact is, Steve Davis, Jimmy White, Ronnie O'Sullivan etc have all competed in 9 ball and done incredibly well, but I havent seen it the other way round.

[@MrAntup]

Pool players can not play snooker until they get through qschool anyone can play in most pool tournaments. Snooker players have to be strong potters

[@evilotis01]

trying to play snooker on a full-sized table after spending a career on a half-sized pool table (with wider pockets, to boot) would be absurdly difficult. it'd be a VERY steep learning curve, and that's even without learning/implementing all the tactics that snooker requires.

[@RockingAmigo]

Agree. Comparing snooker and pool is like comparing tennis and padel.

[@klausolekristiansen2960]

2:45 That is Brendan more. Very well known in the snooker world. Has refereed more than one world championship final. 3:45 Marcel Eckard, has also refereed a snooker world championship final.

[@cauliflowerpete616]

The fact you're American and say snooker correctly is enough for me. Good vid!

[@evilotis01]

YES

[@novemberrain9526]

What the hell did you think they gonna pronounce it ? Snickers ?

[@cauliflowerpete616]

@@novemberrain9526 snuk-er is the usual American pronunciation

[@johnk-pc2zx]

They often pronounce it so it rhymes with "looker."

[@zachansen8293]

@@johnk-pc2zx That's the correct pronunciation.

[@stocksyere]

Love to see pool players try snooker

[@maxington26]

Great summary of exactly what happened (I'm from UK and a fan and player of snooker, pool both UK/US)

[@htnog]

Okay, but the question HAS to be asked: how would Jayson Shaw fare against snooker amateurs?

[@johnroscoe2406]

Probably would struggle. I think that would be obvious. Weird that "has" to be asked? Trying to make some kind of point "mate?"

[@EnglishDrifts69GTxRED]

Even non league players would beat shaw. Pools takes no skill compared to snooker. Especially 9 ball

[@johnroscoe2406]

And here come the asinine replies. Getting exactly what you were looking for, aren't you.

[@nicancelin3714]

Snooker is an objectively harder sport

[@WELLBRAN]

Some have come from snooker..,eg . Pagulayan But I think it's a commercial thing you can earn regular money at pool whereas snooker is a bit of a closed shop ..

[@ianjamiesonmusic]

I still wonder how much pool players would struggle on a snooker table - I know i do, everything is so far away.

[@walkontom]

I love playing Pool and Snooker but eight ball and 9 ball pool is no comparison to Snooker in my opinion, the table size difference and the pockets are more narrow on a snooker table (European pool table has the narrow pockets also) compared to an American pool table where to pockets are much wider. Where Judd did lose, it would be interesting to see pool players try Snooker, the only successful pool player I know of is Mark Selby who played European 8 ball pool before becoming a Professional Snooker player and won the snooker world championship 4 times.

[@Englandsbestlover]

I love how you can miss the pot by 3 feet and still pot it

[@sixcues]

Corey Deuel tried Snooker for a while, that didn't work out so well for him. I've always thought that the American Pool Game Snooker Players would be the best at is 14:1 Straight pool as it is the most similar to Snooker.

[@yvanazastrasz9013]

Fully agree. I bet that at 14:1, Snooker players would fare waaaaaaaay better than 9 ball.

[@mrb018538]

The only person I know who’s made it as a professional in snooker, 8 ball and 9 ball is Chris Melling. You can’t be at peak level for all three as shown.

[@sirdetmist3204]

Top level snooker players often can mix it with the best pool players at pool, the best pool player cannot mix it with the best snooker players at snooker.

[@williamtingey3469]

for a first attempt Judd didn't do to bad. if he had more time to practice like the time he has had for snooker, he would have been difficult to beat. also bare in mind the cloth on a pool table and a snooker table has very different run to it, and the balls, pockets, table length and cues are different size. for a professional pool player to go to snooker. that player would have to work a lot harder to get anywhere in the tournament. but it would be interesting to see the likes of Jason Shaw, Shane van boening, and other pool pros to try snooker. because like you said two very different games, but still hitting a ball with a stick

[@jeremybuckets]

In Judd’s own words, “it would take 6 months to a year of playing every single day for me to even have a chance”. There’s no doubt he could make the jump if he really wanted to; he’s one of the best in the world at potting balls. But he would have to actually put in the work. Anyone who thinks he could just play a few racks at a pool hall and then go compete against the top players is laughable.

[@boterhammetpindakaashagelslag]

Great analysis, but I always wondered what would have happened if the players were allowed to break alternate racks. I bet the score wouldn't have been 11-1. Still think Shaw would have beaten Trump off course, but more like 11-5, maybe 11-6 or so. I've played both games extensively and find that reactions on the cloth and cushion as well as ball to ball contact are the big differences. Naturally a pro pool player has a better feel for this. They are also experienced in shots you wouldn't play on a snooker table, so that's also missing from a snooker player's arsenal. It's a shame there aren't any pool players trying out their skills on the snooker table, but the pro tour also doesn't facilitate it. You need to earn a tour card. Unlike with pool not everyone can just enter a tournament.

[@jaker1160]

I played a fair bit of snooker when I was in college, but now just pool. Hard to find snooker in the US. I do prefer it, but I just don't see it happening here.

[@williamhrivnak7345]

And that’s a big problem with why snooker is losing popularity in England. It’s kind of like golf where rich people are gatekeeping it and common people are just moving on to things that are easier to play. Pool will never die out as long as there’s tables in every single bar and tournaments have a low barrier of entry. If you want people to enjoy a game you have to let them play the game

[@vivekjaria53]

Very well said ....

[@nakkadu]

@@williamhrivnak7345 who told you snooker is losing popularity?

[@TheLastFraudster]

Winner breaks is an absolute joke!

[@ian8745]

As a massive snooker fan from the UK but also a huge pool fan I found out that snooker fans are the worst during this tournament

[@fifthof1795]

....some fans.

[@ian8745]

@@fifthof1795 well yeah some fans, I wasn't counting myself after all 🤣

[@Kierron85]

Great approach to this vid Rollie! You put it eloquently, comedically and respectfully. Not an easy feat!

[@gregoryodle5947]

It's like pro chess players playing very good checkers, yet you can't find a checkers player who can play top game of chess. Chess is more difficult like snooker.

[@mr.lootybutthole]

Even after that video lol dude xD that is not how professional sports work. Pool is so "easy" that you can loose against a pro without ever missing a shot. At the highest level the ground difficulty is meaningless. Potting is "easier" you are not allowed to make mistakes and have to make harder pot attempts in close situations.

[@nakkadu]

@@mr.lootybutthole Potting is always more difficult on a snooker table

[@waytothewill]

Dude, there is no debate. No pool player could play half of the game Judd pulled off on a pool table, they would just melt on a snooker table, period.

[@lo0ksik]

3 cushion, russian piramids.. snooker guys lose to amateurs there , different games

[@waytothewill]

@@lo0ksik Just the table, ball and pocket sizes speak for themselves, I don't have to comment further. 3-cushion is deep though, not gonna deny that.

[@nickthefox72]

Great snooker players make great pool players but it never happens the other way around

[@MegaZombywoof]

Interesting analysis. For info, before entering the American pool competition, Jayson was already world champion in Blackball (English pool).

[@MegaZombywoof]

And if I remember correctly he also played snooker in Scotland.

[@Nin-NinYT]

I'm pretty sure the bracket sheet said Judd made it from the one-loss side to Top 32 or Top 16 when I checked it back then... so that's actually pretty crazy. But then again, like Ronnie, Judd isn't your average snooker professional. He's a full blown snooker prodigy on par with Ronnie and Alex Higgins in terms of talent.

[@sirisoj]

"He's a full blown snooker prodigy on par with Ronnie and Alex Higgins in terms of talent" nah, calm down... Ronnie and Alex Higgins are on another level, Judd is good, he is very good, but not even close to the other two.

[@barnabasg4402]

@@sirisoj In terms of talent, he is

[@sinocte]

And what I haven't seen anyone mention is that Judd's biggest strength on a snooker table (his cue power) is pretty much wasted on a much smaller table.

[@Nin-NinYT]

@@sinocte Snooker has smaller balls. Basic physics tells the rest of the story. Besides, cue power doesn’t really mean anything for professionals of either pool or snooker. Only novice players of either cue sport care about cue power because they don’t yet have the technical capabilities and fundamentals to move the cue ball how they want to.

[@Nin-NinYT]

@@sirisoj Haters gonna hate I guess 🤷‍♂️. And yeah, if that’s what you’re tunneling in on, at this point either you don’t actually follow snooker or you’re a hater.

[@jaggedistvan2477]

Good video and basically a fair characterization of events. I wanted to cheer for Judd, but snooker heads made that difficult. It is worth pointing out that Judd was seeded which kept him away from top players in early rounds. It added to the drama but wasn't exactly random. I hope he comes back and does well. It was good for the event and over all good for pool.

[@poppajretired410]

I worked in and have been around pool halls for more than fifty years and snooker is more difficult, period. Also snooker players have more respect for their game in both their dress and respect for the rules. Have you ever seen a pool player call a foul on himself? When we hosted US Nine Ball qualifying tournaments each year we couldn’t even get the men to wear collard shirts. And the bitchin and moaning was relentless with Earl Strickland being the worst. I can’t watch him to this day. Why do we not see the top pool players play in a snooker tournament?

[@robertkozowski2052]

We don't see pro pool players in snooker tournaments because you have to somehow qualify to the tour and it takes a lot more dedication than just signing up for US open. Most top 9ball players are able to get 60+ breaks pretty often, obviously they would be huge underdogs against anyone from like top 30 but I'm pretty sure players like Shaw would easily manage to stay in tour if they focused on snooker. Konrad Juszczyszyn, polish pool player, managed to win back to back medals (gold and sliver) in Polish Snooker Championships against some of the Europe's finest amateur players

[@nakke3]

The guestion about difficulty is absurd. Russian pyramid is way more difficult than snooker. So what? Also in golf you see the ball going to the hole with the first try much more rarely than snooker.

[@mr.lootybutthole]

For having worked in a pool hall you know really not a lot mate. 1. Multiple times i have seen fouls being called and do it myself. Maybe your experience is an american thing? 2. You have to play 1 year of qualification for maintour, while all pool competitions are open. That is why you have only seen 2 pool pros in maintour.

[@2869may]

If you were a true pool "fan" you would watch Earl Regardless of not "liking" him... That's some little kid sh!t...! Earl was/is an amazing player....! And you missed some of the best 9 ball ever played. I don't care for Shaw, but I watch him play some fantastic pool...!

[@jakeg3296]

@@robertkozowski2052 There’s a huge difference between amateur and professional snooker. Most world amateur champions are the under 21s who haven’t achieved professional status through cue school, which is the road to qualifying for professional tournaments. Of course many of the young snooker professionals skip the world amateurs completely. Any of the world professional qualifiers would be a shoo in to win the world amateur tournament.

[@4231jerome]

My take is that if you become very proficient at snooker, then your grasp of the fundamentals of pool is going to be very strong. However, it doesn't mean that your understanding of the gamesmanship and craft of pool is going to be quite as strong. Each game format presents it's own unique challenges. Snooker players are going to have immense cue power and accuracy, which is required to survive on the large tables. Pool players are going to be better at working in tight spaces, and are going to be more proficient at calculating the optimal path to a run-out.

[@dhirajpallin2572]

Hmmm, I would agree with you if you were talking aboug English pool on the 7-ft table, which is all about tight spaces and complex patterns. I think 9-ball is more about being incredibly good at the use of extreme English, bank shots, kick shots, jump shots and other tricks, and of course the break.

[@4231jerome]

@@dhirajpallin2572 ahh, well yes I am talking about 8-ball on a 7-foot table, that’s what I predominantly play here in Australia :)

[@dhirajpallin2572]

Me too bro@@4231jerome

[@hidingfromsomeone]

The concept of "boisterous" snooker fans is so funny to me. It's one of the politest sports on the planet. Great breakdown of the two sports and Judd's performance though, found this super interesting!

[@jb894]

Masters has a very boisterous crowd but most tournaments have a pretty polite crowd.

[@andrewdavidbarratt]

Pool vs Snooker is like boxing vs MMA. Snooker is MMA. Snooker plays can play pool and do well, but pool players can’t do well at snooker.

[@chevive7]

You never mentioned ANYTHING about the possibility of a pool player beating a snooker player in SNOOKER without much practice like Judd, of course that would be impossible 🤣🤣🤣 Of course you need more skills to play snooker, tell the whole story!

[@dannygjk]

This video was only about playing pool. If you want to debate that ask him for another video.

[@chevive7]

@@dannygjk What??? The title says The Snooker & Pool debate, he never mentioned anything about a pool player playing snooker without much training, IT WOULD BE RIDICULOUS !! A pool player would NEVER play snooker without proper and extensive training and practice and that’s a FACT!!

[@dannygjk]

@@chevive7 Seriously is English your first language? You misunderstood my comment. I meant if you want to debate the reverse case then ask him to make a video on that.

[@amachefe0]

@@dannygjk the title of the video is "The Snooker vs Pool Debate" @chevive7 is correct there should also be a reverse

[@RaferJeffersonIII]

I played in the same club as Judd as a youngster. Glad to see he is respectful of the game and was a good representative of the game of snooker. I happen to prefer snooker and yes, potting is harder but pool is a different game, different rules and just because potting is easier doesn’t mean it’s inferior. I’d love to go to the US and shoot some pool.

[@Ed-Pavlov]

Don't you think that the rule that winner makes a break shot kills the competition? With this rule it's possible to win 100:0 without even a chance for one of players to make a single shot.

[@nakke3]

I also like the alternate brake better, but I get the thinking also in winner brakes. Alternate brake means the match can be over before the end because you can't really win 6-7 in a row at the pro level. With the winner brakes, the opponent can get back from 0-7 to win 8-7 so the match is live until the final shot.

[@Ed-Pavlov]

@@nakke3 But more often the match is dead after the first frame.

[@nakke3]

@@Ed-Pavlov That's not true. It's rare to see the pros make 5-6 brake and runs in a row if the three point rule is in effect. Slow braking or bar table or 8-ball is a different story.

[@rayzalaf8988]

Why do we NEVER see the pool players playing snooker?????????

[@SoSlipknot]

I like snooker as an American

[@Mitjitsu]

They should have alternative breaks, as it would prevent these 11-1 score lines between two relatively well matched players.

[@jselectronics8215]

Thanks Rollie, I watch all your stuff.

[@Jackster__]

We’ve never seen a pool player play snooker in a professional setting. That’s what makes snooker the better sport

[@scottjenkins4613]

Exactly.

[@nickysantoro1164]

Now that’s a good point.

[@nakkadu]

More difficult isn't the same as better

[@Jackster__]

@@nakkadu well yeah snooker is more impressive to watch and no pool player has ever played in a pro snooker tournament

[@nakkadu]

@@Jackster__ So what if a pool player hasn't played professional snooker? That doesn't mean snooker is a better game.

[@danburke4935]

Yes....you said it.. ball pocketing skills. Snooker champs will see this as an easy practice with a few bucks. It's just a big pocket easy game in comparison. Prove me wrong.

[@lo0ksik]

3 cushion, russian piramids.. snooker guys lose to amateurs there , different games

[@danburke4935]

@@lo0ksik yes true. Thanks for replying

[@sdrtcacgnrjrc]

Thanks for the sanity (from a snooker fan). There's a share of obnoxious snooker fans who bang on about pool being so "easy" cause of size of table and pockets. There is an element of truth there -- but the end result is that, in pool, much more creative shots can be played than in snooker. Which of course means it's not easier than snooker...

[@maxcloemett4346]

The counter being its easier to get out of certain situations. 9 ball is attack focused, snooker is much more defensive. I would say 9 ball is not the best crossover for snooker players compared to other formats.

[@0Caracalla]

How many times in a match does a player move the cue ball 3 or 4 rails? In pool you're using the rails much more

[@holeefuk413]

@@0Caracalla you obviously have never watched much snooker

[@MrPistolpete1234]

I don’t say pool is easy. And top 9 ball players are awesome skill level. Effren Reyes etc. but snooker is the harder game. Without doubt

[@aloysiusvo318]

Here's the thing, mad respect for Trump to step out of his comfort zone and willing to trying something new that he's not familiar with. But like any other competitive sports, the fans has to fk it up with insensitive arguments. Props to Trump for trying his best and stay humble, and in your face toxic snooker fans.

[@georgemorley1029]

Where are all the pool players migrating into snooker? Any examples?

[@formulaic78]

Very interesting. I didn't realise the people he beat so easily were amateurs. Snooker is a far harder game than pool (I play both), but to beat a champion at their chosen game when you don't play that exact game very often, is a very tall order. I'm quite sure if Jason had played Judd at snooker then it would have been 9-0.

[@raygrinders3918]

I've never played snooker (except for pool on a snooker table), but my first assumption is that rounded pocket openings make pocketing more precise (no shots down the cushion, right?). How many innings (or strokes or minutes) take place in an average pro competition between two players in both genres? My assumption about game theory in general is that the simpler or luck-based the game (backgammon, blackjack, baseball), the more it has to be stretched into a "Best of..." series to lessen luck's effect. If you try to tell me the answer(s) I promise I'll find some snooker match on KZbin!

[@formulaic78]

@@raygrinders3918 you're over analysing it. snooker is much more difficult because the table is much bigger and the pockets far smaller relative to the ball, so both position and pocketing are far harder. Being a good 9 ball player is hard (as opposed to eight ball which I normally play) but snooker is on another level.

[@lorddaveed]

Pool IS easier than snooker... like their is no debate there. Table is smaller, Pockets are bigger. its obvious. Why do you think pubs and clubs around the world mainly have Pool Tables for customers to use?

[@drizic]

You obviously speak logic, ngl. Imo snooker is harder, that doesnt mean that a snooker player can win a 9ball tournament , it only means that the most talented 9ball player needs 3 years to play elite snooker, though the most talented snooker player needs 2 years to play elite pool. Snooker sharpens your aim like nothing else, so... I am open for discussion.

[@Ranti3434]

Snooker is harder

[@cuggyboysmith81]

Would be good to see some pool players give snooker a go. I think it would be very interesting and entertaining!

[@JohnJohnson-zq9rg]

Irrelevant what game is harder to master. At the end it is two people competing and not two types of billiard games. It is the skill level of the opponent, what makes the game hard or not. PS: One could invent a game even much harder then snooker. For example bank pool one pocket, on a snooker table, with pool balls and have the snooker players and pool players compete against each other. It is not about the difficulty of the game, but about the skills of the players (and the talent, the practice and training time (years) they had learning it).

[@benmorris118]

I wouldn't expect snooker players to win a tournament, as they won't have the repertoire of a pool player (jumps etc are illegal in snooker, kicks/banks are only recovery shots). I do expect that the average snooker player would get far further in a pool tournament than a pool player would in a snooker tournament. In fact, no offense, but I bet the average pool player would not get a single frame in snooker. I'd go as far as to say that I'd be impressed if a pool player got a break of 40+. I would not be surprised to see a break and run from a snooker player in pool. If the balls fall right, pool can be reasonably simple, snooker never can be and the tactics of the game are much more complicated

[@0351marinemike]

As a pool player and fan, who's tried snooker before... I think snooker is a much harder game to master. That said there's knowledge that comes with experience in the game of pool as well. I think most professional billiards players, could compete respectively in whichever game they've dedicated themselves to master. If Judd played nothing but 9 ball for the next few years, he'd probably be able to give a pretty decent showing against Shaw (if not win)... And the same goes if Shaw dedicated himself to snooker for a few years.

[@donjohn2239]

Nah. Having played both, snooker is so much harder to master than pool. Even a 8 Yr old who has played both can realize it.

[@0351marinemike]

@@donjohn2239 I agree with you, and I said the same thing in my comment. My point was, for guy's like shaw who can cue that accurately and with the control that he does... he could be a pro snooker player with a few years of dedication to the game. They're all hitting a cue ball with a stick. Both games are about speed control, accuracy, and spin understanding. Judd and Shaw both check all of those boxes. What separates them... is table knowledge in a particular discipline and table design differences. Both of which could be learned and mastered within a few years when you have those other boxes checked at a mastery level.

[@donjohn2239]

@@0351marinemike I would easily say it won't be like that considering how many pool players have tried to get to snooker. Not saying pool is easy but not easy to crossover to snooker If we compare it to the reverse.

[@0351marinemike]

@@donjohn2239 I suppose you're right... but O'sullivan and Trump haven't won anything in pool either when they've tried. I think it boils down to dedication to the new variation of billiards... nobody has completely quit the discipline that makes their money to fully dedicate themselves to the other discipline.

[@donjohn2239]

@@0351marinemike Well how many pool players have tried going to snooker?

[@randomshotz13]

Pool is like T20 while snooker is like test cricket, similar games with one taking much longer and being more tactical but players who specialise in the spectacular often shine in the shorter form and are more valuable/better in that arena

[@ScizGraffiti]

Would love to see pool players try their hand at snooker :)

[@worstdayofmylifesofar.just7477]

A snooker player can play on a pool table and can immediately pot the most difficult shots and play very good safety and snookers. As trump did. But a pool player on a snooker table will find it difficult just to pot mid length shots and laying snookers. The skill they have apply less to snooker than snooker to pool. I prefer to watch snooker because you can see how difficult it is. I find pool boring to watch because it looks to easy.

[@scottjenkins4613]

First of all, no snooker player thinks he can just win outright in a legit pool tournament (that's only in your head). What they think and know is that except for slight strategic differences in the game and enormous break shot disadvantages in the skillset, the typical snooker player can compensate with shot making skill to be competitive. And it's fun to switch up every now and then. Second, its really telling and quite obvious that no legit pool player has ever, to my knowledge, been competitive in snooker, and they wouldn't even try in public. So don't call this a "debate" when its nothing more than speculation or hyperbole. Until there is organized competition between pros of both sports, no one will ever know for sure which is more demanding. But because no pool players ever, EVER try to compete at snooker, I suspect they know the answer to that question. My wager is that a rank amateur snooker player would beat the best pool player in the world most of the time, and a pro snooker player would whitewash a pro pool player on a snooker table most of the time. JMHO.

[@sshakababy]

Agreed 100%. It's safe to assume that top snooker players are already above average pool players to begin with. They are not just good enough to beat the top pool players outright. But if these guys were to spend a few months on the pool table they can definitely be on par with the top 3 pool players. It doesn't work that way for pool players though.

[@lo0ksik]

3 cushion, russian piramids.. snooker guys lose to amateurs there , different games

[@MrPistolpete1234]

@@lo0ksik so who from your game won anything outside of it? Or even competed?

[@odiums_taint]

love the Marathon line. well played, sir

[@tietheknob3751]

There's no comparison between Snooker and Pool. Snooker is Apples and Pool is peanuts. Snooker is British and Pool is American. Snooker is Einstein and Pool is Trump. There we go! lol

[@Rufgaudas]

Very nice description of snooker players :D and their clothing choice. The only thing they need is instead of having water bottles - have a cup of tea :D

[@paulriggall8370]

Potters are potters. The thing that separates the men from the boys is tactics! Give Trump any situation to pot from and he'll most probably pot it. The biggest factor in success is knowing tactics. You will never have a clear run to just pot every ball, there will always be situations where you have to be tactful. I play snooker 99% of the time and occasionally I play English pool. I can match most guys I know for potting, and if I have to clear the table, I can. When I played league pool, I was destroyed! 😁 😁 I won on one evening and that was only because the balls broke in a friendly way for me - I was basically useless when my opponent started playing shots I just couldn't understand! Why didn't he pot it? Why is he trying to get two shots? I just couldn't get it. It is such a great game. I played the captain of the pool team at snooker and it was the reverse! I stitched him right up, because I knew tactics of snooker. My journey with balls has led me to think that pool is one of the most elegant games ever invented. Snooker is like a drug. If I don't play I become a grumpy, miserable shit! Billiards is when I want to feel slightly more sophisticated! 😁 9ball is like a bridge between snooker and pool, in that you both share the same table. 8ball and English pool is like chess, you have your pieces and they have theirs.... Great video mate.

[@evilotis01]

great comment.

[@YashMyGosh]

One thing I hate about US open is the person who wins gets to break everytime & it should be an Alternate break as Pro's almost Break and Run everytime! 🎱

[@billymabum3514]

Correct . It’s ridiculous

[@ILiquidGasI]

I love that we, as snooker players, come across and challenge, all whilst being spoken badly about by pool players... but I am yet to see a pool player play snooker against a professional 👀🤷🏼‍♂️

[@JamesJoyce12]

that is because no one else in the world besides the British care about snooker

[@_perisoreus6625]

@@JamesJoyce12 I don't agree with you. In recent years you can see more and more Chinese players in Snooker. This proves Snooker is becoming more and more popular in China.

[@ILiquidGasI]

@@JamesJoyce12 disagree completely, snooker is being widely accepted and appreciated more and more around the world. Snooker is a more advanced game than pool and that’s why it is a spectacle 👌🏼

[@TanWam]

@@JamesJoyce12 no it’s just you realising pool players will never do it

[@JamesJoyce12]

@@TanWam I am sure that made perfect sense in your brain - but when you actually wrote it down - it lost all meaning

[@Krapvag]

at that level the difference is in the tactical play and the experience of breaking the pack of reds, concentrating for long periods of time. But the angles and pace will be completely different in pool where the experience counts there. Ronnie O'Sullivan was always good at hitting balls into balls into pockets but I think it was Ray Reardon who taught him the safety skills and turned him into an unstoppable force in the game

[@themathsprofessor6962]

Of this I’m sure… no pool player could even qualify for the UK snooker open. And if given some wildcard entry would be out in the first round, undoubtedly without winning a single frame.

[@robinhooduk8255]

i play pool and snooker here in the UK, i have to say they are 2 very different games and snooker really is a higher standard than pool, but that really isnt a great thing? i watch 9ball on tv and think "id wanna go and play some pool and try the shots the pros do", yet i watch snooker on tv and think "fack theres no point ever picking up a cue because the shots are ridiculous and could never even attempt those" and it puts me off ever playing. watching pool makes you wanna have a go and watching snooker makes you think you shouldnt even bother.

[@bayernmunich8350]

SNOOKER IS BETTER

[@p4rf252]

Facts

[@Dosemen]

nope

[@woolentrain]

As a snooker fan who also really enjoys pool, I have certain biases towards snooker of course, but rather than getting into the whole debate of whether one is "easier" than the other, or whether one set of players have more solid fundamental skills than others when it comes to wielding a cue, I would like to point out a different aspect between the two sports. I really like a certain level of respect of traditions and the certain things have been consistent in snooker. For example: what's the value of the brown ball? No matter where in the world you go, which tournament you watch, which snooker hall you're playing in, or whether you're watching a game that was played today or 50 years ago, the answer is always 4. Now, simple question: what is the colour of the 4 ball in a 9-ball game of pool? It keeps changing, seemingly on a whim. That's just one of many many issues that really bothers me when it comes to pool. I respect both forms of the game and they are certainly different things. But they are not equals in my opinion when it comes to being interchangeable in skill levels required, or their integrity and consistency, even towards their own fans and audiences.

[@wildcard2884]

Snooker > Pool. Sorry

[@Diggnuts]

True.

[@elgringo1893]

"maybe the game of pool is just an easier version of snooker" Of course it is, the table is much smaller, the pockets are easier to pot to and the rulings are far simpler. Pool players jumping on a snooker table couldn't adapt the same.

[@zidane779]

Watching it live Judd played like a 9 ball amateur with literally perfect fundamentals, in my opinion. That best summed up his performance. I am hoping he plays in the UK Open next month, and destroys.

[@pezzdoag]

I'm still convinced that the top snooker players are much more skilled than the top pool players. I'm not convinced that even the best pool players could win matches against any of thr lower ranked snooker players. Snooker has so many more very precise positional shots than pool, so you need a much better cueball.

[@pezzdoag]

I mean, there's probably a reason why professional snooker has a much bigger audience and monetary prize pool than 9 ball.

[@MegaZombywoof]

@@pezzdoag I think you are quite wrong about the audience. Pool is played worldwide in almost every country but snooker is not (very far from it). There are more pool players and pool competitions than snooker. That last could explain the gap of monetary prizes, less prizes can lead to money concentration in each. By the way, I love snooker.

[@pezzdoag]

@@MegaZombywoof I understand pool is played worldwide, but as a professional sport it doesn't get anywhere near as many viewers as professional snooker does. I think it's because most people can be a half decent pool player, but very few people can be a half decent snooker player. It's such a more intense and intricate game as oppose to pool.

[@MegaZombywoof]

@@pezzdoag You shouldn't say things like that, it makes you sound very narrow minded and moreover ignorant about pocket billiard. I have no sources about audiences but I don't think the gap is that wide. Again, a restricted audience might struggle against a worldwide audience, in terms of views.

[@pezzdoag]

@@MegaZombywoof It may sound narrow minded but it's true. The top snooker players are much more talented billiard players than the top pool players.

[@360PhoenixFlip]

I came from watching Judd in snooker, expecting him to beat everyone, after seeing Jayson smash him, I was like “who the hell is this guy who can beat Judd Trump?” …from there I started my love for 9 ball pool. I love both games, they are there own game. Both have their own pros and cons.

[@Dessienewshoes]

It needs to be said that in a role reversal nobody would be talking about a pool player possibly beating a snooker player at snooker

[@patrickkelly7085]

The difference between the two games is almost any pro snooker player could win a pool tournament pool players could not win a snooker tournament

[@2869may]

The "Best" snooker player LOST 11 - 1..... He "could" have won.... but he lost badly.!

[@patrickkelly7085]

@@2869may The best pool player would not even qualify for a snooker tournament.

[@2869may]

@@patrickkelly7085 Who cares.....?

[@einstu]

What about a pool player coming over to play snooker? Has this been done?

[@AaronSmith-xr2cl]

Yeh no the one thing ur missing is judd actually could beat any pool pro on any day,but no pool player could ever even come close to beating an amateur snooker player. On his day it’s a 100% possibility he could smoke the best pool player in the world but if that pool player even attempted to play snooker he would forfeit after 2 frames

[@JoshHenderson16]

Worth noting that Judd v Shaw was also Scotland v England, a rivalry much older than Pool v Snooker.

[@michaelr3578]

Thought experiment. Take the top ten players from each nine-ball and snooker, then have them play the other sport's tournament schedule for a year. Which group of ten players would end up nearer the top ranking of the other sport? By the way, the only known modern (post-2000) professional to win both a major world pool championship and major world snooker championship was Mark Selby, who won the World 8-ball championship in 2006, and was a finalist in the Chinese 8-ball world championship in 2015, along with his four world snooker championships in 2014, 2016, 2017, and 2021.

[@MrYippage]

Lighter balls on a heavier cloth is another reason why snooker is far more difficult technically speaking than pool. Anything less than a perfectly straight cue action and cue ball deviates a lot, especially over such long distances.

[@chrisking206]

It’s nice to have an enemy but most snooker players are exceptionally humble.

[@intervortex8201]

Hope to see him on again here!

[@Rabid-Pinocchio]

I played both games at a compettitive level and here is my pov. While both games involve using a cueball to project an object ball into a pocket or sometimes a rail or another ball, that is mostly where the Two games diverge. They dynamics of the almost all of the equipment is very different, from tip-size to balance of cue to the pocket size, pocket physics, and on and on. IN short snooker is vastly more difficult and a player must be vastly more accurate on their shot. A pool table is light years more forgiving. For a pool player who has never played on a real snooker table (some States in the US call a 10' table a snooker table that has jaws cut like a pool table.) On a pool table, even a 9', but any size really, a 3 bank shot is relatively easy for a good player. A simple cross-side or cross-corner is likewise pretty routine. A snooker player would never even consider a 3-rail shot and only play a straigh bank in an almost hope-shot kind of way. My message is getting too long so I will sum up like this. In my opinion, if you take an average snooker player, give them a few Months or maybe a Year to adjust to the mindset, mechanics, and tactical play, then they will excel against even the very best pool players. The reverse is extremely unlikely. If you were to take the very very top echelon of pool players, give them a Year to get acclimated and then put them up against a 150 ranked player and they would get destroyed. All in all they are both great games, each has their own idiosyncracies, but as for which requires more skill and ability, Snooker without question is the winner.

[@ryantunna]

Having played both, snooker is by far a much more difficult game and it isn’t even close, the level of skill required to be great at snooker far exceeds that of pool. Coming from a snooker background, when I transitioned to pool I found myself being able to beat the vast majority of pool players simply due to small table and enormous pockets. The big difference is If the worlds best pool players played in a snooker tournament, they would likely be at the very bottom, where as the best snooker players would generally do okay in a pool tournament.

[@tornamulconry1393]

Great to hear Rollie on

[@nicksanderson9911]

For me pool is the definition of America they have seen a game England have and just massively simplified it, same with American football VS Rugby.

[@Jackaljkljkl]

I am British, and agree on snooker/pool, but you seriously think American Football is more simple than rugby? That is ludicrous.

[@garygwinn5818]

Thats a real polite way to say, that Snooker players are snobs who treat pool players like trash, and were overdue for a sweet piece of HUMBLE PIE

[@2869may]

So true..! Just read these comments, lots of self righteous aszholes...!

[@MrPistolpete1234]

So let a pro pool player enter a snooker tournament then. Let’s see what happens. They never do. I love watching effren reyes and earl strickland, but the pool players never go near snooker. Whereas I watched Steve Davis years ago give a good account of himself in the pool world. He never won, but made semi finals etc, all without a jump shot too. Judd trump was totally respectful, and if any snooker fans were assholes that’s not on him

[@garygwinn5818]

@MrPistolpete1234 It's pretty easy to understand why. Their are probably less than 20 12-foot snooker tables in all of the USA. Their are no snooker pubs, no snooker rooms, at all here. If their were, Americans would be competing at the highest level in snooker. When center-cueing, and being steady over the ball is the main challenge, having a football field to play position on makes it a pretty simple game.

[@MrPistolpete1234]

@@garygwinn5818 you haven’t a clue mate. Yes Americans would be good I’m sure given the resources, but your definitions of the main challenges of snooker are wildly wrong. If you think it’s simple I’d love you to try it. I’ve got no disrespect for pool players. I know the top guys are excellent cueists. Just I’ve played 9 ball, 8 ball, and snooker. And I’m a fairly decent player at the pool disciplines, but snooker is just really difficult to be anything other than average or plain bad

[@garygwinn5818]

@MrPistolpete1234 I had 2 century runs under my belt before age 18, and I only got to play on a snooker table, a handful of times. The snooker table I played on, was a 10 footer, but no possible corner pocketing down the rails at all. Extremely tight. I went on to play professional pool in 2 different stages of my life. So your telling me with the potential I displayed, that I wouldn't have been great at snooker if I had access to good equipment and maybe even some coaching? I have made a living breaking guys like you at pool. If you saw me playing pool, you would have looked, watched for about 20 minutes, shook your head and never had the balls to come near me with a nickel

[@digestivebiscuit4458]

Great video. And fair play to Judd for getting so far and being a good sport all round. Snooker and pool are wildly different in terms of difficulty. I could beat any pool player in the world in a random game but that could never happen in a frame of snooker..

[@elitedavidhorne8494]

Good move from the promoter of the tournament though. Got everyone talking about and interested in the tournament

[@mikeabba1990]

0:38, action on the cueball is phenomenal, unreal! The arc between yellow and brown, how?!?! Trump's the king of power shots, it's almost a unique attribute only he has since none of the other professionals can get anywhere near the work on the white he can. Of course it takes excellent cueing too, Stephen Lee could do the ridiculous with the white with not even half Trump's cuepower, but the power he generates whilst hitting the white PRECISELY where he means to is a lethal combination. The guy can pot and come of 11 cushions for the next ball

[@brucewhelan9769]

The smaller pockets and longer table mean that in snooker, the straightforward shots are harder. But because of that, pool has developed a whole bunch of creative ways out of situations a snooker player would probably never even think of, let alone try. Like comparing a longboard skateboarder with a banana board freestyler.

[@johnmc3862]

100% On a basic level snooker is harder. But theres so much more.

[@Roy-jy6vp]

Rollie!!!! Long time no see!

[@jonescrusher1]

How about a billiards triathlon? Snooker, pool, three-cushion, the best from each discipline pitted against each other? It shows how much the standard of pool has improved in the last thirty years that the best snooker player isn't going to get near to beating the best pool player.

[@porps1]

i saw on Stephen Hendry's youtube channel he and Gareth Potts talking about the possiblity one day of a cue sports tournament, including pool snooker and billiards... i for one would love to see something like that.

[@namnack]

Was there an exchange of referees as well?

[@doraemon402]

Let's acknowledge the fact that winner breaks is what made those scorelines so exaggerated. With alternate break, I don't think Judd would have lost or won by so much.

[@jasonallen6081]

I can't find any footage of Pool players trying to play snooker against professional snooker players.