The Snow White Drama DIDN'T Have To Happen!

[@Pomoscorzo]

There is nothing wrong with reinterpreting fairy tales or other stories but it must be done with intelligence and taste. Disney studios have lost both these days.

[@donaldmetzger7145]

People appreciated Snow White in 1937 the same way they appreciated Star Wars in 1977. Both were optimistic fantasy movies that helped people escape the realities of the hard times they came out.

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

Absolutely! That comparison is perfect. People still need that optimism today.

[@Leamichellefan2244]

I hope you don’t mind my saying so but I still feel like Snow White is timeless.

[@ruthomas8942]

Isn't it a bit old fashioned to tell women they can't have a career AND love?

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

That's apparently what the mythical "modern audience" would have you think!

[@ruthomas8942]

Also... just one example... one could drawer parallels with HM the late Queen Elizabeth; she was 11 when Snow White came out, she was dreaming about true love AND dreamimg about the leader she could be. She went on to reign for over 70 years, with her Prince Consort by her side (when he wasn't several paces behind). But most importantly, they lived happily ever after. Who is anyone to criticise what makes another person happy. I'll stop now 😊

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

That's a lovely thought. Even though I am American I definitely appreciate and have respect for how hard working the Queen was, as well as the fact that she insisted on marrying someone she actually loved.

[@sannakarppinen4163]

I guess that it is abominatiln if todays woman choces to be a traditional housewife and home mother. They the feminists claim that there is a choice , but when a woman wants to be a trad wife and home mom then they are saying HOW DARE YOU and start calling us " brainwashed idiots" .

[@anneofcleveswithinternet]

Someone send this to Rachel "weird, weird" Zegler

[@VgnRaj]

"Mean stabby people". I am SO going to use that for my next GOT conversation. Simple but well done.

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

No shade at all to anyone who likes Game of Thrones. It's just that I don't have a lot of time for entertainment and after a long day the last thing I want to do is watch a bunch of mean stabby people being mean and stabby.

[@VgnRaj]

I stopped watching that series after the first couple of seasons. Too many good people were being killed off. The show caused so much sadness, not hope or at least hope that wasn't about to be dashed.

[@richardque4952]

"You only remake bad movie,not good movie"- John Huston.

[@sannakarppinen4163]

You for got that in the leaked scene the Snow White makes the dwarfs her personal maids and servants making them to clean the house. In the 37 animation her self cleans the house as a thank you for shelter .

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

Yeahhhhh I saw that. Wow what a terrible change. Like, who wants a roommate who doesn't pay rent and won't even do chores??

[@vaticancitybride7137]

Corporate Disney thrives on drama, maltreatment, controversy, polarization, horrendous miscastings, greed, minimal effort, performative activism and insulting their audiences intelligence, judging the past through a self righteous modernist perspective is redundant, “Snow White and the seven dwarfs” 1937 is one of the very few animated classics Disney which didn’t produce a direct to DVD sequel.

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

The best thing we can do is vote with our wallets!

[@Uapa500]

Your comment makes me think that actually maybe they like the drama, as ir's the only thing that can keep this joke of a remake alive.

[@thaddeusblake4707]

The entire point of the original story seems to be lost on present day Disney. Apparently, there is no need to return to source material (classic literature) for these people, because there is a movie that they themselves have already made. These ill conceived, and inbred attempts at updating are part of the overall effects of illiteracy in the modern world; yes, they can probably read, but they choose not to, electing to replace books with TV and movies, which leads to brain rot, as the imagination shuts down over time due to a lack of use. Poor Rachel Zegler is a victim of this modern myopathy...nothing that happened in history before the year of her birth is of any relevance to her. Talk about weird.

[@DonnySpielberg]

I've lost count how many videos I've watched on this subject, covering the foley that is this movie..... You broke it all down so simply and smartly, plus the historical context!! Thank you!!! New subscriber here.

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

Thanks for subscribing!

[@kennethrohloff7535]

It's like perfect karma to the people running Disney who insist on things be woke

[@thehutch7728]

I’m glad I stumbled upon this video. Thanks for putting it together! 😊

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

Thank you for letting me know you enjoyed it!

[@TrevortheTrainFan]

The only live action remakes I still like are The Jungle Book 2016, Cinderella 2015, 101 Dalmatians 1996, Alice in Wonderland 2010 (for the most part), Aladdin 2019, and Christopher Robin. Excellent video btw! 😊👍

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

Thanks very much! I mentioned in the video that I really liked Cinderella 2015, but I will say that Glenn Close absolutely threw herself into the role of Cruella DeVille and made that movie fun. Despite some flaws I really respect the creative ambition of Alice in Wonderland 2010. I haven't seen The Jungle Book 2016, but I will now give it a try because you said you liked it. I must admit, however, that I stopped watching Aladdin 2019 and Christopher Robin partway through. The Aladdin remake (for me, anyway) was hopelessly damaged by forcing Will Smith to imitate Robin Williams despite the fact that he is a superb comic actor in is own right. And I found Christopher Robin just kind of a downer. But I am always open to changing my mind so feel free to tell me why you liked these films.

[@TrevortheTrainFan]

@@childrensliteraturepodcast As much as I prefer the late Robin Williams, but I thought Will Smith did a decent job with the Genie 🧞‍♂️ character too.

[@TrevortheTrainFan]

@@childrensliteraturepodcast Also, I love Christopher Robin in terms of an original storyline and the idea of a grown up Christopher Robin reuniting with his stuffed animal 🧸 friends. I even thought Ewan McGregor did an excellent job with the role.

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

I also like the idea of a grownup revisiting childhood connections -- this is why I love the movie Hook. I also think Ewan McGregor is a great actor. I'll give this movie another shot!

[@TrevortheTrainFan]

@@childrensliteraturepodcast I love Hook 🪝 too!

[@TimmieLost]

FINALLY someone who points out the fact that the dwarfs are folklore creatures, not human beings!! 🎉

[@ggt47]

Correction:the Snow White remake didn't need to exist.

[@amadeusmiranda752]

I totally agree with your statement that the movie has themes of optimism! Even now as a 30 year old man I can’t help but feel inspired by how Snow White remains kind and gentle despite the horrible woods scene she went through! The original was perfect and did not need to be remade

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

I love this film because no matter how bad things got, she picked herself up and got to work. Snow White is hard working, kind, and cheerful. The dwarves are likewise loyal, hard working, and caring. They even know how to throw a GREAT hootenanny!

[@BroadwayGuy]

@@childrensliteraturepodcast : The hootenanny is REALLY SOMETHING!!!

[@fcv4616]

I’m going to address the elephant in the room: skin colour. This is one of the few cases where race-swapping bothers me, because it’s so obvious that Disney hired a brown-skinned actress to play a character who, as her name suggests, is white as snow, only to create attention and publicity to the film. Snow White, or at least the version from the Brothers’ Grimm that Disney adapted the movie from, is rooted in German and northern European roots, and thus the audience knows that the characters would be white, just as folk tales from Nigeria would historically belong to black people. It’s not that race-swapping can’t be done tastefully, because it can and it has been done (even Disney has done it with films like “Princess and the frog”). But everything about this new Snow White reeks of corporatism, nothing is being done out of the need to tell a story or say something meaningful. It just comes across as if corporate Disney changed the skin colour to cater to the growing demand of audiences for more representation (which is good), but in the easiest, safest way possible. They only made skin-deep (literally) changes to an already established character with decidedly Caucasian roots, but without making any creative changes to the setting and the lore to justify it. It’s just so lazy. Diversity in the media is important, but the way this movie delivers it is cynically capitalist.

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

It's depressing that it's such a hot topic. If Disney doesn't want to tell the story of Snow White, tell a different one! There are so many wonderful stories from around the world. It's very telling that Disney and other studios don't believe in those stories enough to give them a chance.

[@thecat-alyst2716]

I think all the Zegler defenders really need to understand the core of the criticism against her. Apart from criticizing casting someone with a darker skin tone for a character who was literally named for having "Skin white as snow", thus leading to huge glaring inconsistencies, there is more, but I will briefly address the "race" thing, even though it's more specifically a skin tone thing, not necessarily ethnicity, though they are often tied. In the original fairy tale, Snow White's mom looked at a black wooden window sill while knitting in the winter. After accidentally pricking her finger, a drop of blood fell on to the snow, and she liked the colour contrast so much, she wished for a daughter that had the black of the wood of the window frame, the redness of blood, and the white of Winter's snow. Her wish was granted, hense why Snow White must have white skin. It's the origin of her name, which is likely a nickname, as we do not get Snow White's actual name. Now for the main reason for criticism of Zegler that her defenders need to understand. She is being really smug and arrogant about things, especially when she bashes the 1937 movie in favour of her 2025 version. She fails to realize that that type of talk is bad marketing. Her defenders point to how young she is, but she has been an adult now for 5 years (2 at the time of her interview, 4 at the time of her Palestine comments). the "young and dumb" excuse only goes so far, and at some point she needs to realize that during the pre phase of a movie, you don't act like that. Mila Kunis might try to be funny before her movies, where she plays comedic or sarcastic characters, but she never goes after things the fans like, because she knows what will happen if she starts going after people like that. And I will bet you dollars to donuts that she would never attack a Russian actor or actress if she was costaring with one. I use Mila as an example, because like me, she is Ukrainian, which, as I think we all know, is in the middle of a war against the invading Russians. As far as we know, Mila Kunis does not have a Russian costar for her projects at the moment, but, I'll bet you if she did, she would tread with some decorum when discussing the Russian invasion of Ukraine. It's about knowing when to speak your mind vs. not, and the time between a movie's announcement and the film's release, as well as your casting announcement and the films release, is not the time to start tackling political issues. I'd say the same for a pro Trump individual as well, and I do feel the same way about Gal Gadot, while she is from Israel itself, she maybe needs to minimize the political stuff until after the film is already out. Make of that what you will, but what I layed out in this novel is the reason Rachel Zegler is getting the criticism, and deserves it, I don't care what her defenders say. Being young and dumb is not always an excuse, especially when you make the same mistake over and over and over again. Once is fine, but then apolojize right away, admit you messed up, and then learn from it. Rachel just needs to do that to address all the valid criticisms. That is all.

[@LeePresson]

Snow White: Lust For Glory.

[@puteracahyadi]

I will never let my children to watch snow white. Really no respect to the original source. I don’t want to answer their questions come from it. They already familiar with the original story.

[@jessejohnson3138]

@1:30 "save the $50 bucks" you are certainly being generous to take a family of four to the movies these days you're more than likely getting closer to $100.00 with added on cost of food. I enjoyed your video nice content.

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

Wow it's getting expensive!! Although I'm American I live in a tiny village in England. We don't make family trips to the movies and I had no idea it had gotten this bad! Thank you for the kind words.

[@Joy6168]

@@childrensliteraturepodcastYou’re not the only one, I live in a small city in America myself and didn’t realize prices went so sky high, either.

[@jongrover8763]

Maybe they could do a twist ending and make snow White the villain

[@BroadwayGuy]

I agree with you. "Cinderella" (2015) was respectful of the original fairy-tale. All the other reboots have been $$$ grabs. Dinklage gets upset, Disney caves, RZ shows no understanding of the value of movies from the past, and the company is left with a reboot nobody asked for or wanted to begin with. The Dwarfs offer shelter and friendship to Snow White after a traumatizing experience. How is this offensive? Snow White herself is resilient and self-reliant. She knows how to cook and clean (Good life skills) and she is positive in the face of adversity, caring, compassionate, and kind. These are good character traits for every generation. How is it seen by anyone as offensive or out-dated? No, I will not see this reboot whenever it is released, but I will likely cuddle up with the original 1937 animated classic instead.

[@Frazman72]

I hope Rachel Zeigler watched this masterclass of a review.

[@teddyvanpaar5809]

Just thank you. Finally someone gets what Zwerge are.

[@firemiracle]

I agree, the live action remakes are soulless and just made for money. I actually do have two guilty pleasures which is the Aladdin and the beauty and the beast remakes, I can’t deny that I do like those remakes. But yea, why can’t parents just show the classics to their kids instead of the remakes?? Plus! If Disney really wants more money, they why can’t they just do those anniversary theater releases on the classic movies??? They did that with the lion king and the nightmare before Christmas before, so why can’t they just do that?? They could win extra money with that! 😲

[@NoelleMar]

Germanic legends are nightmarish… so..?!?!? Also folklore is obviously not just from one exclusive place or culture and is not set in stone. Obviously the original Snow White was not identical to the “one” Grimm version (even then, there are several versions, and that’s just from “one” German source)…

[@cakefaceLala]

Cinderella and little mermaid were SO GOOD! I love Rachel Zegler but as a fan of the original, I think she (like many modern people) simply don’t understand why Snow White is so meaningful. Say what you will about Emma Watson as Belle, but at least she understood her character.

[@mykiethomas]

Cinderella and Little Mermaid were both okay by me, but the rest I’m good with missing out on. I’m boycotting Snow White 100%, the original is the only one that exists in my opinion.

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

I totally understand why you feel this way!

[@senduran35]

These are Grimm Stories with fantasy flavor and German culture, can't expect woke in thid lol , why don't rachel zegler take a jab on Arabian nights stories lol

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

Right? Nobody has to like Grimm's tales or European fairy tales. We can all like whatever stories we want to. I just don't understand why filmmakers and actors keep making movies based on stories they clearly hate. Instead of mangling a story they dislike, why not choose a story they do like so they can make a film with passion and positivity?

[@SonOfEarthLtd]

Disney would have to pay me to see it!

[@USSTitans]

I love your insight about the original Snow White in that era (1937). I hope you do more Podcast like this. And I hope Rachel Zegler see this podcast and understood what she said of her opinions about her feeling about the original Snow White, that make so many Disney fan hate her so much. But from my point of view, she got set-up by Disney and Bob Iger. They hire the woke writers from the 'Barbie' movie to change the original structure of the Snow White's story line. Basically, they want to make 'Barbie' out of their Snow White. But they do not realize that the different between Barbie and Snow White is like compared from Apple (No pun intended) to Orange. I am glad to hear from a women point of view, and it is really refreshing.

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

Thanks so much for these very kind thoughts. You are right that when actors speak publicly, it's often not their own opinions really. Zegler is so young and she will be surrounded by people who tell her to say this or do that because it will be a good career move. Of course, she's an adult so she is responsible for what she decides to say and do. But generally I think things go better for actors if they avoid controversial topics in public. I will try to keep making episodes that you find helpful!

[@BroadwayGuy]

@@childrensliteraturepodcast : I don't think RZ was "set up" by the studio. RZ is an entitled young woman of adult age who knew exactly what she was/is saying and doing. Her comments and behaviors are HERS and hers alone.

[@jsa-z1722]

Don’t even pay money to hate-watch that rubbish

[@asaflivni]

Thank you for this video. I learned a lot of new things about the original movie and story. I agree they should shelf the you're one 😬

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

I'm glad you found it useful!

[@biancagrottolo]

I can actually understand what you're. interjection into your video, and I actually agree. I have about several nieces and nephews. There's still little kids. Three of them have all grown up, but there are still two nieces and five nephews that are still young enough to have a childhood And me and my cousin's relatively were all raised around the Disney animated wonderful films. And my mom had a love for Snow White. Everyone did in our family. I dressed up as Snow White for a nice Halloween event we had in October last year. So I agree with the 100 percent my dear I should say this though I think they should just kick out the snow white and just make a movie about the queen either way. There is no way of saving this movie. It's a wrecker. Bless your soul for saying your honesty, big hand of respect to you, dear. I do not want my nephews and nieces to watch this. No way. Nah,

[@mofallsfan]

Your pithy comments are spot on!

[@victoriasalter1701]

If you loathe all the live action Disney remakes, what about “101 Dalmatians” with Glenn Close (and “102 Dalmatians”) and “The Jungle Book” (2016)?

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

I guess I don't really count those as part of the current batch of remakes. The 101 Dalmations remake wasn't a great work of art but it was fun, and Glenn Close absolutely threw herself into the role. At the very least it was a remake that was made by people who clearly loved and respected the original story. The 2016 Jungle Book remake had some lofty goals but I feel it just didn't quite execute them.

[@maisy.a2690]

In Zegler's video it seems to be that she is commanding them to do what she wants. Imagine if they hired little people. Some say Zegler seems like she is making the "magical people" like slaves.

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

Yeah I saw that leaked footage showing Snow White bossing everyone around to do their chores while doing nothing herself. That was . . . a choice, I guess. A huge part of what made Snow White a likeable character was that she was a good friend and was willing to do her bit to be a member of the household she'd been welcomed into. I would not like to have a roommate who made a chore chart for herself and then was like "I'll just sing, thanks."

[@jsa-z1722]

I totally agree with you!

[@scoutart1508]

at least jungle book was also solid as well

[@Leamichellefan2244]

Please, please please please don’t be angry with me when I say this, but for me, one of my biggest problems is the fact that they not only hired somebody who doesn’t look like snow White and yes, you can’t get around that. I’m sorry, but you can’t but even more importantly doesn’t act like Snow White doesn’t speak like Snow White doesn’t like Snow White nothing About the casting for the main character bodies the main character nothing and don’t her mouth and saying really really gonna make this worse.

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

I don't have a problem with that at all. I think that if you're going to adapt a story, you need to stick to the text. Not all stories are about all kinds of people, and that's FINE. Snow White has hair as black as ebony, lips as red as blood, and skin as white as snow. That means certain actors can't play the part. No problem. There's nothing stopping them having a fresh take. There are many parts of the world, including a lot of Asia, where this story could be set without breaking the lore. Sadly, obnoxious actors are a global phenomenon so those will turn up everywhere!!

[@MissMoontree]

I'm sorry but as someone who speaks more than 1 germanic language, your point about dwarves is off. It 100% meant both mythical creature and the humans. Them living in the woods, human or magical, is no coincidence. And since it is Germanic, not Norse, you can't use everything Norse to defend them. Showing Kabouters, gnomes instead of dwarves in some pictures does not help your point. I do agree with you largely, so it is a shame you include flawed arguments in defense of your opinion.

[@wagnerpaivafernandes]

It was awful

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

Sadly, yes.

[@YmustTh3w0rldG0r0und]

They should have just used multi-racial dwarves. Also, dont know how they didn't take into consideration that the fact that the person who said this is discriminatory against people with dwarfism, is the most successful one. One who doesn't sn't have the burden of being financially unstable and has a successful acting career. On who became the most famous after playing a role that was a dwarf. You think they could have deduced that maybe he's, I don't know, trying to keep all those roles to himself?

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

I think it's possible he honestly was worried about stereotypical treatment. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and Dinklage made other comments about not wanting to hate on anyone else, and being fine with it if it was handled in a good way. Honestly, I think there are a million better ways Disney could have handled the casting of the dwarves. In the past it made sense to hire mainly little people because the technology just didn't exist to do face replacement, motion capture, or digital size alteration on a typically-sized actor. Today there are a lot more options. Filmmakers could stick with little people, which would certainly allow for more natural acting and less expensive effects. Or they could use digital resources to alter the appearance of an actor who wasn't a little person. Either way, these are prime roles that any actor would want, and given how few opportunities there are for little people in Hollywood, I could see why they'd be eager to grab these parts!

[@BarryHart-xo1oy]

Good points.

[@yutubecitizen]

Your video is amazing.

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

I'm very happy you enjoyed it.

[@BarryHart-xo1oy]

While l think this video makes some good points regarding the Germanic origins of the story and the historical context of the 1937 movie,l don’t like the tone of disparaging young workers at Starbucks.Many young adults,both Starbucks employees as well as other workers,toil at jobs that are demanding,underpaid,and often demeaning.Yes,there were a lot of desperate people in the 1930s,but that doesn’t mean that contemporary workers don’t face harsh and repressive conditions.

[@kevinreinhardt7216]

Good video. Since ya asked about thoughts, may I share my thoughts of what would have made this a great video? And, please, no hate, I mean this from a place of the heart. When people talk about money grabs, how bad quality is made simply for money, I want to stop watching. That is subjective. That is an opinion. Yes, it's your chanel and you're free to share your opinion, but by making a quality video, you're already telling your opinion. Honestly all movies are made as ways to make money. All actors pour their hearts into their projects, good intent is all over, but unfortunately not every movie, series, whatever, will gel with everybody. There are many reasons something can fail. Your analysis is awesome! I agree that, unfortunately, Ms. Zigler spoke out of turn. She doesn't understand. But also remember she's young. These kids do not know the history, they have learned a lot from memes and KZbin analysis videos where "experts" have been telling them for years Disney is big bad corporation disparaging women, antiquated views, etc. They are excited kids who don't learn until they've made stupid mistakes like that and learn. I wish Mr. Dinklage would have learned a little more about the history of Zwerge. I am from Germany and hate the way it's translated into Englishx because you are correct, they are totally different things. I hope they do cone around and hire little persons for the roles, I've seen many interviews of other actors saying they'd love the role. Anyway, I really enjoyed the last section, and glad I didn't stop. The world kinda sucks (subjective opinión lol) so don't add negativity, spread hope and the important lessons parts. I hope that makes sense. And again, I'm not saying anything bad, please don't hate on me fellow commentators. We should wish creators the best of success, and if I had videos with this much potential, I'd welcome opinions to reach a wider audience, and that's all I'm doing

[@Satanna.avemaria]

I would understand if they remade all the fairytales and changed them entirely. But, no they are all just a copy and paste. I’m like you with Cinderella. Kenneth Branagh went right to the roots with Cinderella and interpreting the story. His main inspiration was Charles Perrault and it’s very apparent. It is very different to its predecessor and that’s why it worked.

[@callmethecommentcountess9329]

If there’s one movie version of the classic fairytale, I love better than this one it would have to be the 1989 this movie version much better

[@ronjaravenbell9663]

Hope they cansel it Rachel dont have the right to have this role.

[@karlosmedi4693]

Any changing thing form the original would had been taken , but the mouth of Rachael Budweiser Z every one came to hate her more over the changing thing cuase she has no respect over snow white, is her the bad apple every one HATE!! they should SUE HER!!! and you see how fast she stop saying dum thing with out knowing any thing about the old verging.

[@Joy6168]

I’m disappointed in yet another obvious cash grab. I’ll most likely see it just out of curiosity.

[@Joy6168]

Hold on, I thought this movie came out on February 4, 1937, not in December, where are you getting your information from?

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

The film's official premiere was on December 21, 1937 at the Carthay Circle Theatre in Los Angeles. You are right that the general theatrical release was on the 4th of February but this was in 1938. You can find this info on a bunch of film history sources, including Time Magazine. The issue put on on December 27, 1937 verifies the release date.

[@Joy6168]

@@childrensliteraturepodcast I stand corrected, thanks for letting me know, I forgot these details, as I’ve been busy with real life.

[@ThePersephoneDiggen]

Will you make more videos like these? I mean about movies and tv shows. I don’t see you have a lot of videos like this on your channel. 2:50 you don’t have to be that to give an opinion about that.

[@childrensliteraturepodcast]

When there is an adaptation of children's stories, yes, I will talk about them. I don't want to stray too far from talking about the books themselves, though, so even when discussing adaptations I will always try to talk about the books as much as I can.

[@ThePersephoneDiggen]

@@childrensliteraturepodcast ok

[@talkingthetalk3640]

Triggered much😆