The Soil Carbon Sponge, Climate Solutions and Healthy Water Cycles with Walter Jehne

Biodiversity for a Livable Climate presents a talk by Walter Jehne, Australian climate scientist and soil microbiologist who is the Director of Healthy Soils Australia.
Introduction by Didi Pershouse, The Center for Sustainable Medicine
Presented on April 26, 2018 at Harvard University
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[@romaglue]

Probably the most important video to share of our generation

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[@ciceroaraujo5183]

You are really inspiring

[@nl4064]

the most important lecture I have seen to date this man should be advising the UN so much critical information here which we can run with. Allan Savory and his holistic grazing is exactly what this man is explaining but takes it much further than we realised Rewild the world and save the large predators than regulate the trophic cascades which the world ecosystems depend upon

[@HeliIsoAho]

Great talk by Walter Jehne. Lets get carbon back in our soils by creating the earth's soil carbon sponge. We all can do this by starting in our backyards. Thank you for sharing Walter Jehne.

[@sarahcollins190]

For the first time in a long time I actually think we can do this. Thank you.

[@harry356]

If you didn't do it yet, look up Alan Savory and holistic management.

[@sarahcollins190]

@@harry356 Yes I have seen that...that was my last boost of hope.

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[@tristanschreiber5279]

Yes -this talk filled me with hope again.

[@xyzsame4081]

Check out the videos of Geoff Lawton. Not the Ted Talks that don't excite me (too philosophical, too intangible. you already have to be a convert to "get" what he is saying), but his Q & A and all the videos about Greening the Desert in Jordan. It is novel, interesting, uplifting, and he has such a positive attitude.

[@wendyscott8425]

Wow, living in the Central Valley as I do, I'm going to start making sure every inch of my front and back yards are covered with something growing. It ain't much, but it's what I can do. I'm already well on my way with this. Off to the nursery, and also off to our local regenerative farm to check it out and order some organic produce and grass-fed beef, pork, and lamb. :) This was a fascinating talk.

[@mikepowell8611]

Mulch mulch like your life depends on it.

[@garthwunsch]

The world needs LOTS of soil evangelists... You + me = 2 x 2 = 4 x 4 = success. We can do this.

[@wendyscott8425]

@@garthwunsch It seems like more people have heard about this now than when I first heard of it a year-and-a-half ago. The message is getting out there, and more and more of these products can be found in stores!

[@anilkapur1584]

The most accurate and complete explanation on: ' What actually is Climate Change? How is it happening? What are the solutions other than the CO2 factor? And yes, there is a solution!

[@hitreset0291]

Green Natural Carbon cycle vs Fossil Fuels Carbon cycle. The former is sustainable while the latter is not.

[@wendyscott8425]

@@hitreset0291 I've heard that if farmers used regenerative farming with cover crops and no biocides, as he calls them, it wouldn't matter how much fossil fuels we burned, the CO2 would be absorbed by all those plants. I've been giving monthly to tree-planting organizations for over 30 years. It's nice to know we've increased the numbers of trees compared to what we had cut down. But the idea of planting cover crops and keeping those vast areas of farmland covered with plants sucking CO2 out of the atmosphere, sounds a lot better for helping us out of our plight of global warming.

[@eugeniewaldteufel7915]

@@wendyscott8425 BUT, Did he say that the burning rates of fossil fuels still give us extremes in climate especially heat at the moment? As it isn't moderate but to abandon then the balance we could establish in the next ten years is made difficult to achieve. Understanding the water cycle is part of the story of soil restoration.

[@wendyscott8425]

@@eugeniewaldteufel7915 Of course, burning fossil fuels doesn't help. I have an electric car myself, so I'm well aware of this. But it is important to note that even if we stopped putting more CO2 into the atmosphere, we'd still have global warming, mainly because we won't have sequestered any of the extra carbon back into the soil, nor will we sequester the water back into the soil. It is carbon that absorbs water, and grasses both allow a whole lot of water back into the soil but also keep it cool. If there are lots of grasses growing, morning dew will also be put back into the soil. This is water right out of the air without any rain. The dew collects on the leaves and then slides down into the soil, if the soil has lots of carbon to absorb it. If it's just sand, the water won't absorb as much and will just evaporate. Water vapor is the other main cause of global warming. A whole lot more water is now in the oceans instead of on the land in lakes, ponds, and rivers, like it used to be. Sorry for rambling, but you get the idea. :)

[@HarrisonCountyStudio]

To charge an electric car, you need to plug into a degrading electrical grid. Which typically gets its power generated by a Coal fire, or natural gas fires power plant. I’m not against electric cars, but they and their toxic batteries carry their own issues. Secondarily, there is No more water in the ocean than say 20 yeas ago... even Algore got his predictions wrong. Otherwise New York and Miami would be under ay lest 10’ of water.

[@robertpoen5383]

This all makes perfect sense. Basic chemistry and biology and physics. So, why isn't it being done? "A nation that destroys its soils destroys itself." FDR

[@wendyscott8425]

It is being done. There are farms in the Central Valley that are doing it now, as well as across the country and around the world. But yeah, the sooner it really takes off the better.

[@KarenLorre]

WALTER JEHNE!!!!! Thank you! That felt so clear, so inspiring and so edifying. I love what you are teaching. Thank you! Lets do this!

[@garethevans2109]

I can't believe this video has been up on KZbin for over a year and has only had a few thousand viewings and fourteen (now fifteen) comments. This should have been spread around the internet like wildfire.

[@hitreset0291]

It's contrary to the current global warming, CO2 focused narrative.

[@wendyscott8425]

@@hitreset0291 I wouldn't say it's contrary to it, more like it fills in what is missing in discussions of the causes of global warming. There are a jillion videos about regenerative ag on KZbin. I must have watched 50 of them by now. Fascinating!

[@kathrynwhite8482]

It's a better narrative because we all can see water and are seeing that it is degrading and disappearing from our soils.

[@atypicaltexan3834]

Science has become a reductionist compartmentalized scattering of disciplines with no one stepping back and looking at the way everything works in relation to the other in an infinitely complex system.

[@peterjarvis3894]

Atypical Texan not really ... there are specialists of course but there are also plenty of researchers working with systems approaches

[@Gustav4]

That bread and flover setup is pretty smart

[@dfgregg100]

This is one of the most important talks I've seen on eco-restoration. At first the questions were driving me crazy because I just wanted to hear Walter speak - but then I realized - maybe it's because he is so out in front of us that everyone is trying to play catch up. So much to think about. Thanks for posting it.

[@pedrorevilla4804]

Brilliant lecture!

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[@futurecaredesign]

One lesson I take away from all of this is that wore basically have to de-fence the whole of the earth and let ruminants run free again. Possibly with some predators mixed in, which can be us. So that they can re-establish grasslands and break that oxidation -> warming -> oxidation cycle.

[@linmal2242]

If you def-fence it you can't manage it, so you will get overgrazing or undergrazing in spots. Fences are necessary for management, not only of the livestock but also the range.

[@eugeniewaldteufel7915]

@@linmal2242 There is another side of the story being offered. See a KZbin feature on how animals graze naturally - re grazing patterns leaving one area for another. The theory I think is that their manure contributes to the microbial activity of the soil. Their hooves push it into the ground - they move on - it is fallow for a while as the grasses regenerate naturally. Can we create a balance regards consumption dare i say? It's not about harnessing an industrial solution aimed at wasteful overproduction/consumption and profit as you know. The basic principles and knowledge regarding soil regeneration helping to restore habitable lands are for everyone. Vegetarians do appreciate growing nutritious vegetables. As mentioned below it seems to make sense we do need more green cover. Understanding the biology of restoring the earth's carbon sponge in the soil is key and clear, isn't it?

[@hanshans4396]

Wonderful . Please connect this to Allen Savory and high density grazing and long rest periods to rejuvenate bare areas and even deserts. Imprint planting grazable plants on desert fringes could even help to kickstart the animal grazing cycle that is the key to building the sponge and saving the world

[@Spright91]

every farmer should watch this

[@tammcd]

Information starts at 15:00

[@KarelSeeuwen]

I'm not a spring chicken at 56 but it seems most of the audience is pretty long in the tooth. I do hope lots of young people can get enthusiastic and watch this on line.

[@TCRgalaxy]

Lots of young people are enthusiastic about breeding more fossil fuel energy consumers, furthering the issue of Overshoot...at least that’s what all of the evidence shows...humans are an evolutionary dead end, it’s just a shame so many of our fellow earthlings will be sent into oblivion in the process of homo saps taking themselves out...

[@HarrisonCountyStudio]

What evidence shows that young people are enthusiastic about breeding carbon based (fossil) energy? I would argue it’s the large militarized governments of the world 🌍 who do the majority of polluting. Eight of the ten most polluted rivers are found in China. A land where no one does anything with out the direction of government. Your FedGov is not much better. Don’t worry, the planned take down of the world economy is under way. Surely millions have died already due to government edicts...Soon there will be much less people thanks to “flatten the curve”... or what I like to call “the Plandemic”. This is economic ware fare on the poor. And humans are not on an evolutionary dead end. Unless you are referring to the small group of feminist, SJWs and the gender-dysphoria population.✌🏽

[@carmenhealer4635]

I planted a California native restoration 16 y are ago. 6 years ago I adopted some permaculture methods to create soil that could grow food. I did not know what I was doing, but nature took over and created a natural garden of Eden on my one acre lot in Northern San Diego county. Once again I do not know what I am doing but that is not stopping me from planting 1 gallon trees, 24 so far and 60 shrubs on 8000 square lot in the desert of Palmdale. I have put out a logg TV of straw, lbs of California native shrub and wildflower seeds as well as nitrogen fixers. I am hoping to have enough green mass grow that I need to borrow someone goat.

[@BiodiversityforaLivableClimate]

That is a great story. Thank you for sharing!

[@jenniferspring8741]

Thanks Didi for the great introductory talk. Looking forward to reading your workbook.

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[@k.ganesanganesan6825]

Soil carbon sponge. Simple science. Give life to soil by bacterias.

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[@waterconservation1]

For a paradigm shift. Very instructive, thanks for sharing.

[@BiodiversityforaLivableClimate]

That's exactly what we need. We're glad you enjoyed it!

[@curlycjbass]

Fantastic content from Walter Jehne I will return to.

[@neilparker1302]

Fantastic presentation.

[@billiverschoore2466]

This has to be the single most helpful talk to help us spread the word and the understanding. I'll be watching your other videos too, the better to be able to apply these insights. We are most fortunate to have you. A life well lived! 🌳🕊💚

[@frequenz5861]

Walter Jehne mesmerize me. ThX for upload !

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[@nelsonsilva7572]

This is a really good explanation of how heath soils will safe the planet and make it more beautiful. It would be nice if someone could break it up into small clips so that we could share with people and not get them bored with a 2 hr scientific video

[@BiodiversityforaLivableClimate]

Thanks, Nelson. We're a small non-profit with limited bandwidth, but if you would go through the video and suggest short clips by writing down the beginning and end time stamps of each, we may be able to get someone to do the editing.

[@NoLefTurnUnStoned.]

@@BiodiversityforaLivableClimate Get on it Nelson!🙏🏽

[@billiverschoore2466]

i think the format is perfect: it needs to be explained as a whole. Being actually interested doesn't take account of time; what is 2hrs of one's time to have such a splendid exposition of the things we need to take into account for our very survival? 🌳🕊💚

[@carmenhealer4635]

Thanks for a great speech.

[@videonewseditor]

Compelling and clear.

[@jpenneymrcoin6851]

at 21 minutes-ish, when he's talking about W/m^2, a woman asks if there's a "time factor" and I wanted to point out - not that anyone will notice this - that the time factor is contained in the W unit. Watts, that is. Watts is 1 kg⋅m2⋅s−3 in SI base units. The "s-3" means "per seconds cubed" and that's where the time comes in. What cubed time means I'll leave as an exercise for the reader 8)

[@jcjensenllc]

From the theme (title) of many of lectures, "Soil Carbon Sponge" one could infer that atmospheric CO2 is the target, the culprit regarding global warming. After the listening to several of his lectures I get the opposite impression. Screwed up hydrological cycles are the problem and regenerating healthy soil using carbon from atmosphere is the solution. Walter if you are listening consider changing your speech title to "The soil solution to prevent climate catastrophe"

[@regentoronto]

It's both carbon and water. We still have to reduce emissions along with regenerating soils that regulate water - it's not one thing (linear) but a system of systems - like our own body or any other complex life form. See www.drawdown.org

[@2Langdon]

Fantastic work. Brilliant tying together of systems and evidence. Can only hope this information is being understood at high levels in governments around the world. Bolsanaro, Trump - are you listening, are you paying attention? Thank you so much Mr Jehne.

[@rosandrio]

Thank you Sr, you've shared so much knowledge in this lecture..thank you 🍻🍻

[@life42theuniverse]

Unfortunately, we also have arctic permafrost melting to release methane(CH4) 59:00 They are increasing the surface area so I think they are increasing the entropy. 1:20:00 Would factory-farmed cattle have a bit of an impact then? Not being put out to pasture.

[@forgoodnessache5399]

"I'm a soil microbiologist from Down Under." :)

[@eolandeeliva8655]

😆 I see what you did there.

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[@anonymous.youtuber]

Dear politicians, Please watch this video. It’s not too hard to do. Then you will be able to know when you’re lying to us.

[@PhilipRhoadesP]

Excellent presentation! However I am still skeptical that the confluence of the World's Sixth Mass Extinction, incompetent and dangerous world "leadership", corporate greed, and any number of other existential threats (creating feedback loops on feedback loops) can be overcome . . but I will look into this for what I am might be able to do practically here in Central West NSW . .

[@linmal2242]

Have you seen Alan Savory and his Holistic Grazing as referred above.?

[@PhilipRhoadesP]

@@linmal2242 You mean referred to in the video? - I can't see anything like that in the reference text underneath . .

[@AlexandreLollini]

Yet a whole bunch of more reasons to cover the soil and never do tillage.

[@btudrus]

Yet another reason to stop eating plants and use animals to regenerate the soil...

[@AlexandreLollini]

​@@btudrus stop eating animals, but use them as they should, and mostly eat plants ! The most important is not to make too much new children.

[@btudrus]

@@AlexandreLollini No, eat as much animals as you can to save the planet. Planting crop is what degrades the soil and destroy whole speacies. EAT MEAT, SAVE THE PLANET...

[@AlexandreLollini]

@@btudrus LOL

[@btudrus]

@@AlexandreLollini Another brain-washed vegan...

[@victorarnault]

Here in Brazil, We have Embrapa soils.

[@adamgreiner390]

Just Have a Think channel sent me here.

[@BiodiversityforaLivableClimate]

That's a great channel!

[@tristanschreiber5279]

absolute „must see“ channel

[@harry356]

I am amazed on how easily and timid he explains how we literally can save the world and humanity from an enormous disaster. I don't know how he copes with this, it must be a burden.

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[@peterjarvis3894]

He is only one of thousands and thousands of scientists working on these questions!

[@brunetyannick1174]

@@peterjarvis3894Yeah well scientists working on questions isn't going to cut it sadly. It's good that some people try to find solutions, most prefer to ignore them and keep on consuming all they can. And those are usually people in power so...

[@lukebieniek9069]

May I please make a suggestion. Q. How many acres of corn are grown on a yearly cycle in the US alone? The desertification of countless miles square miles on a seasonal Cycle I feel is the biggest problem that needs to be reckoned with. The entire corn cycle and everything that revolves around and makes it possible is beyond ludicrous, obsolete, defunct, debunked & ready to be entirely rethunk.

[@mm_379]

Since photooxidation of vapor happens in the air (as far as I understood), why are grassland useful since the vapor could as well just come from evaporation on the oceans?

[@volta2aire]

hydroxyl radical en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxyl_radical#Application_in_air_purification

[@andrewmcswain9452]

responding to 1:10:00-1:20:00 : forests produce a more continuous stream of water vapor than grasslands. not knocking the importance of large herbivores in managing and improving certain biomes, but if we're trying to stabilize climate we should probably look to increase overall vegetation cover, with proper pastured grazing as an important element, but not end-all solution. the bit i watched was informative but seems like wishful thinking, ill watch the rest before forming an opinion.

[@suleymanpolat8487]

There is a lot of land which can not turn into forests. Basically there is not enough water. But we can build grassland there and finally turn these places to half open savannas. I live in Turkey. At my country, most of the landmass is just have enough precipitation (300-450 mm) to support a pine forest or an oak savanna. Oak savannas is more productive and can capture more carbon than pine forest. Thats why people like him spoke about grassland and herds of animals.

[@mynjgarden]

Healthy pasture neutralizes 100x more methane than the cows grazing on it can produce andhealthy pasture can't exist without ruminants to graze it. The only thing that will save us from an extinction event is ruminants. Not the first timeI've heard that but the first time i heard about the methane part. Take that beyond burger. Spread the word!! Go buy Grass fed meat!

[@howardlitson9796]

Don't underestimate ancient metallurgy technology. Maybe ancient metallurgy technology from soil carbon or charcoal iron or bog iron or turned dirt into iron ore.

[@TerreHauteRemoteGoat]

Gotten through about half so far... Excellent and important and geared towards the general public. Unfortunately, he do es some damage to his credibility by showing a lack of understanding of entropy and he incorrectly states that plants are the only organisms that are photosynthetic...Many bacterial species also perform photosynthesis.

[@johnhiggs9735]

A fascinating, detailed exposition with so much to think about. But I am confused about your solar insolence figure: you give it as 342 W/m^2 (minute 22.33) yet I understand it as 1,353 W/m^2 and about 1000 W/m^2 at the earth's surface on a clear day. You use this figure again at 1:35 min and at 1:40. Please could you clarify. Thanks

[@johnhiggs9735]

Having looked up some of Walter Jehne's other lectures I now realise he is referring to the RECEIVED radiation AVERAGED over the whole globe (taking into account the incident angle and half the globe being in darkness at any time). i.e. It is the Solar Constant of 1.353kW/m^2 x the cross section of the globe / the total surface area of the globe. The total energy being delivered to the earth will be the 342 W/m^2 x the total surface area of the earth.

[@patersjy]

Me too.

[@leopoldotovar876]

Genial

[@fadiacotter8979]

Amazing. It exposes so much ignorance with such a simple solution

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[@nextworldaction8828]

at around 1:15:55 he mentions grasslands transpiration producing water vapor and "when sunlight hits water vapor it photo-oxidizes and produces hydroxyl ions (OH-), and hydrogen ions (HCO2-) that form bicarbonate ions. So you’ve got sunlight on water vapor photo-oxidizing the water vapor molecule into hydroxyl ions and bicarbonate ions and basically these hydroxyl ions - free radicals are enormously aggressively oxidative - and they will basically turn that Methane rapidly into CO2 and water (H2O). Now a healthy green pasture will produce about 100x the hydroxyl radical photooxidation than the herbivores grazing it has the potential to produce." Does anyone know where there is studies that show this to be true?!?! Specifically the part about the ions rapidly turning CH4 into CO2 and water. Help! :)

[@SFre2010]

40:54

[@C.Hawkshaw]

If I bought 200 acres of pasture near the Olympic Rain Forest, should I put cattle on it and mob graze it, or plant it with Doug Fir trees?

[@internetfox]

why not both?

[@azscab]

I'm all about it. I am 50 now and don't want to waste any more time. I want to turn waste land, denuded landscapes into forest. I do wonder if melting permafrost will turn into living soil.

[@garthwunsch]

It won’t if the land is cooled effectively. I’m 76, been gardening all my life, but have been learning about RA and am now a radical RA evangelist, applying whatever years I have left to repair the mess we’ve created. My lived to 96, and my hope is to outlive him in productive years. I recently enrolled in Dr. Elaine Ingham’s Soil Food Web school - #AMAZING Let’s go grow something!

[@azscab]

@@garthwunsch I have about a half acre that was denuded of top soil. It had a few sparse pines. Now its covered with grasses, garden beds, blue berry bushes, and worm bens. My plan now is to turn more of my place into grassy woods. Feeding those worms green sweet grass and brown leaves seems to make soil fast.

[@garthwunsch]

@@azscab nice to have that much land, and nicer still that you’re using it well. You might like my fellow Ontarian’s channel, Canadian Permaculture Legacy. Vegetation will be different, but permaculture principles are applicable everywhere. Keep up the good stewardship!

[@livingladolcevita7318]

there's always one. where did the plantlife come from

[@jimbledsoe9083]

@ 58:15 Reversing Entropy or Negentropy, nature tends to complexity!? We can rethink economics and instead of models dependent on scarcity embrace a new world of abundance.

[@WalterHempe]

Why doesn´t she take the microphone?

[@steveq34]

Walter mentions in the video that man's agricultural practices have degraded the land over the past THOUSANDS of years. I would love to have a reference for that if somebody can share one please?

[@BiodiversityforaLivableClimate]

William Ruddiman is the leading advocate of this hypothesis, which was first viewed with skepticism but has become increasingly well supported over the past 20 years. Here's a discussion from 2018, www.realclimate.org/?s=ruddiman. But you can also find numerous articles by searching on his name, some of which are easier to read, e.g., Scientific American, physics.ucf.edu/~britt/Climate/Reading5-Did%20humans%20alter%20global%20climate.pdf

[@steveq34]

@@BiodiversityforaLivableClimate thank you! :)

[@BiodiversityforaLivableClimate]

@@steveq34 You're very welcome, and thanks for your interest!

[@tristanschreiber5279]

you should also check for talks from david montgomery - even historic cultures were doomed if they had degraded their land (which happened several times). land degradation has been drastically increase by the use of the modern plow -it is factor 20-40 times faster than in no-tilt systems.

[@josephjones5070]

He also suggested that the hydrology and the climate have been stable for millions of years... That is definitely NOT the case. I have been on the journey towards reestablishing soil in every place that I have lived over the past 20 years. Always composting, always planting trees to replace grass, and always trying to reduce my personal impact on the environment and create habitat for flora and fauna. I agree that there are major problems with the way that things are done, but I am VERY skeptical about the motivations of the billionares who have become rich from non-stop raping and pillaging of the earth and all of its lifeforms. I will continue to do what I know in my soul is the right thing. But I don't hold out any hope for large scale change. My most optimistic vision is the work of Alan Savory. And in my opinion, this small regional approach is only possible in countries with weak governments. In other countries the freedom to make changes at scale is doubtful at best. In the grand scheme I believe that we have been here before and that things will eventually correct themselves and find a homeostasis. But I don't believe that humanity will be the agent of that change. Rather, nature has ways of resetting the stage. Finally, relying on the humanity to overcome the greed and hubris that have brought us to the current state is also hubris. We just aren't capable of overcoming our short comings as a species. At least not yet. But that won't stop me from doing what my soul knows is the right thing. So maybe some day far into the future we will have evolved into something more than human. But in our current incarnation there is nothing but destruction and a wiping clean of the slate to look forward to. We never learn our lesson.

[@larrysiders1]

Jehne accepts the shaky Climate assumption that CO2 initiates a bit of warming but THEN that causes more humidity, and THAT HUMIDITY increases the H2O Greenhouse effect. But then the healthy sponge soils INCREASES HUMIDITY that cools the land from the rain that elevated humidity triggers. Factually, nearly all the warming since 1988 has been from steadily decreasing low clouds. That fits perfectly with everything Jehne just told us. Steadily drying our croplands which accelerated the last century results in fewer clouds and that warm the globe. That is exactly what the cloud data over the last 4 decades tells us. Warming from DIRECT Solar heating (from fewer clouds) accounts perfectly for all of the global warming...& NOTHING TO DO WITH increasing atmospheric CO2. Only fixing Agriculture will cool the earth. Reducing CO2 won't.

[@peterclark6290]

Reducing the deserts may be even more productive. (from the first in the series)

[@melvynrutterreedbeds]

We have natural environments, and we have farmland. Farmland is an artificial system where we grow our food. The natural environment is where we look for bio-diversity. Structuring the soils is a complex process. The industrialised landscape in eastern England, produces at least 3 crops a year, and for lettuce and similar we get 8 crops a year. Clearly farmland has to be structured in order to produce such vast volumes of food, in order to feed us. And before agriculture, I'm not sure soils were as well structured as they are today, as a result of human activity. While humans can ruin things, they can also improve eco habitats, too. A land covered in Ice or forest would not produce the bio-diversity we in the UK currently have ( if you don't count wolves and bears )

[@linmal2242]

Yes.

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[@claytoncampbell3777]

Mel Royale Permaculture

[@johnkilgallon207]

Can we have the KEY POINTS? Not all this complex stuff for other scientists?

[@farmer998]

he said it again manage ,control . just leave things alone and quit trying to manage,control,

[@theonlyjamiebourgeois9703]

Thirty thousand billion? It's that an accident or does he mean thirty trillion?!

[@vanderbilt931]

This question always wonders me as I see more videos on environmental conservation. Why there is always a lone crusader fighting for soil, water, environment conservation or even social causes? Where are all the govt aided universities and their highly educated and highly paid scientists and researchers? It feels so weird.

[@adamsacks7688]

They're out there - we've presented many of them in our videos, talks on GBH, conferences, and they write lots of books. You just have to look for them a bit.

[@howardlitson9796]

Don't forget peat fuel from soil.

[@3lm-landandlivestockmanagement]

Be sure to attend our live Q&A session with Walter Jehne! www.3lm.network/store/WEBINAR-Q&A-with-Walter-Jehne-p167818652

[@robertreznik9330]

Using GMO technology can help by making forest and crops sequester more efficient. Also the certified organic movement does not help with the carbon sequestering. This results in less yield for each unit of fuel and more water used per unit of food. When I was in Soils classes and farming I was taught that OM in soil has a half life of 25 to 50 years. Fertilizing with good management add to removing C from the air. Corn makes 50 bu/ac every other year under no fertilizer while 225 continuous using modern practices. Most CH4 is coming from hydrates released in arctic regions.

[@billiverschoore2466]

i sincerely hope that you've looked into the GMO thing/monster a bit deeper since you posted the above... 🌳🕊💚

[@robertaxqijg2518]

IF THIS INFO CAN CHANGE THE WORLD THEN I SUGGEST BETTER SOUND. I HAVE OVER 200 ACRES I WANT TO FARM.. CANT HEAR A THING

[@philhunt168]

Has anyone even read grazed and confused?

[@sebastianwrites]

I don't think the 'bread' example is really necessary.

[@johnkilgallon207]

it really needs some crowd effort to edit and make this message more simple to understand. We need the Cliff notes not this rambling mish-mash of good ideas.

[@BiodiversityforaLivableClimate]

Making information accessible is super important! We agree. If you have any ideas on how to do that, or would like to help us, email us at [e-mail]

[@billiverschoore2466]

or you could watch this video again? even i understand it, and would say this exposition of 'how things work' is the best i've come across yet, giving me all i need to explain to others about my project of making my local surroundings more resilient re nature as well as humans. But maybe, since you posted the above, you found the elegance in this video? 🌳🕊💚

[@farmer998]

your problem is you think you can control this, when you can't ,all about you controlling everything .

[@Kukkahja]

Australia do not have worms. Worms eat old plant mass elsewhere.

[@eolandeeliva8655]

My garden is full of them in Perth Western Australia

[@Tony-Blake]

As a kid in a suburb of Sydney, I found many worms in the garden. (We had redbacks & funnel-webs too)

[@rwfoxtrot]

Actually Australia has lots of earthworms. There are records of earthworms several feet long being brought up to the surface of ground being cultivated for the first time by tractor drawn cultivators in many areas of the country. I grew up in country New South Wales in an area that was originally mainly grazing grasslands with massive numbers of sheep and cattle that underwent massive transformation to cultivated broadacre agriculture (think fields of 1000 acres and farms totaling 10000 acres of cultivated ground) in the 1980’s. The local rainfall has diminished by nearly 20% and the summer daytime temperature has now increased to the point where we experience 30+ days over 40 degrees Celsius (104F). I now know why this is and CO2 is not the reason!!!!

[@rwfoxtrot]

For a very recent link regarding Australian earthworms see this link www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-24/curious-gippsland-giant-earthworm/11630320

[@regentoronto]

earthworms are not native to North America either. They were imported from Europe and are now common throughout the continent - they have also changed the ecology of the soil and invertebrates here.

[@farmer998]

bottom line quit cutting/killing grass and trees let them grow.

[@grindupBaker]

Overall this is very poor Mister Think and you are skating on the edge of being a coal/oil shill, not something that you've ever intended unless you've switched teams (they offer better hair treatments?). I just plodded through the whole 2 hours of talk by Walter Jehne who I think you are referring to. It's very slow & padding, arduous for me as I wait for something actually concrete to ponder in it. There might be some possibility of increased partial land cloud cover that could offset a bit of the warming, I can't dispute that because I haven't studied enough, the basic idea would be to reduce the rate at which precipitation on land makes its way back to the ocean. But Walter's calculations for all sorts of things are way off. His 2% is way low because (1) He forgot that Earth has oceans (2) He forgot that humans aren't doing soil management for 100% of land (3) He forgot that clouds warm at night (3) He forgot that clouds block the Sun's SWR that would otherwise be reflected from the surface (~15%) so he calculated as though Earth's land surface was all jet black (it isn't). As a result of this it would require >9,000,000 km**2 of additional cloud cover on Earth to switch the imbalance from the present +0.78 w/m**2 to -1.05 w/m**2 in order to cool Earth back to 1970 AD. I don't know how much >9,000,000 km**2 it needs because I don't know the night time cloud warming effect. If you know that then it could easily be factored in. Sure that's 2% of Earth's total surface but you can't do Walter's soil sponge farming on the oceans, sea & lakes because the cows would drown and the waves wash the soil off, so I think Walter meant only 2% of the 35,000,000 km**2 of the land cleared by humans that Walter states. As you see it's >9/35 = >26% of extra cloud cover over the humans' land bit due to the nice spongy soil, way more than 2%. He was very confused about WG1 climate science, about the physics, about the quantities. He got much wrong. Worst thing is that he hugely misrepresented the water vapour (H2O) versus carbon dioxide (CO2) so-called "greenhouse effect" with false numbers like "90%" water vapour and "40,000 ppm" water vapour which is all classic coal/oil shill disinformation. He constantly stressed how the (strongly implied stupid, incompetent, tunnel-visioned, blind) WG1 climate scientists "concentrate on CO2 while ignoring H2O" and he lied about the climate models, pretty much calling them useless but giving false information to support that. This is not good. It's possible that you are supporting and parroting an Australian coal shill with these 2 videos. I'm not absolutely certain though, he might just be another of those types who suffer from "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" and is rather confused. Either way the things he says about CO2, climate scientists & climate models would have Charlie Koch & Crocodile CoalDee salivating & licking their lips. He clearly doesn't understand how the so-called "greenhouse effect" actually works. What do you think Mister Think, are you supporting an Australian coal shill with these 2 videos ?

[@billiebruv]

Why do you think he is pro coal? And who is mr think?

[@ChrisTaylor-NEP]

I'm sceptical about some of Walter Jehne claims about climate change. I can't find any peer-reviewed papers by him. Has he published in any of the respected scientific journals on this topic?... after all, he does claim to be a scientist.

[@billiebruv]

@@ChrisTaylor-NEP You may need to contact csiro NSW. He retired 15 years ago, Dr Christine Jones and Elaine Ingham also turned their back on the 'norm' to pursue their newfound research that was ignored by the faculties. And look at 'google scholar' for more in-depth research

[@ChrisTaylor-NEP]

@@billiebruv I've looked. He's published no peer-reviewed research about climate change.

[@billiebruv]

@@ChrisTaylor-NEP I couldn't find anything either, I don't subscribe to journals. Did you contact CSIRO-NSW? It may take some time before replies and any links, though

[@peterclark6290]

Who decided that the CO² level 800 years ago was Earth's optimum? Remove the political hype from the faked disasters in the news ("never before", "worst in history", and all lies) and things seem quite manageable today. A similar question would be what would be the effect on the climate of our successfully re-greening all the deserts (not Antarctica) with grassland or forests? Even further, is there enough CO² in the atmosphere to green the deserts, because we still have to rely on the stoma being able to close quickly after getting a free-floating snack and not lose too much internally-stored water.

[@billiverschoore2466]

The air CO2 will be replenished by the CO2 from the oceans for a lonnnng time yet. Increasingly occurring extreme weather events and deadwater areas at river mouths point to the need for greater resilience i.e. respect for and harmony with Nature. 🌳🕊💚

[@peterclark6290]

@@billiverschoore2466 Harmony with Nature requires understanding it. That is the foundation of the work done by Regenerative Agriculture. (Well worth the deep dive, it answers every planet-based existential fear in the positive). There is a minimum CO₂ level below which life on this planet will cease. CO₂'s effect on warming is logarithmic, very low, and mostly masked by the principal GHG which is water vapour (80+%). There is no Science that supports any maximum level: over 1000ppm was a boom time for nature in the documented records, when the coal and oil was created, limestone cliffs, etc. "Increasingly extreme" weather is media and political lies, to scare a man-made ignorant public. Virtue signalling? Why? Ignorance is sad.

[@farmer998]

how about we remove human life from earth and you wont have to control this