The Sonic Reboot is Actually Good?

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Comic Drake

Comic Drake

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@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 6 жыл бұрын
It has been brought to my attention that the war referenced in the comic was from Sonic Forces. That's my bad. I didn't play the game because I heard it was awful and no amount of OCs brought to life would convince me to buy it.
@arthurbaker1592
@arthurbaker1592 6 жыл бұрын
Drake, it means everything to me that you actually read my comment.
@JohnR.DeLuca
@JohnR.DeLuca 6 жыл бұрын
The game received middling reception upon release, so your hearing one side here. I personally enjoyed it from what I've played. The OC creator is actually pretty damn solid. I recommend approaching this game with caution, you might have fun with it.
@ZR_SPD
@ZR_SPD 6 жыл бұрын
Was there more to that sonic mega drive series?
@JohnR.DeLuca
@JohnR.DeLuca 6 жыл бұрын
@@ZR_SPD Only two issues of the mini series got released. The final issue unfortunalty got cancelled due to the fallout with Archie.
@FrostTheHobidon
@FrostTheHobidon 6 жыл бұрын
IDW Sonic's Story takes place after Sonic Forces from the Games.
@NotBigSurprise
@NotBigSurprise 6 жыл бұрын
People: Is the Sonic reboot good? Me: Hit the brakes, Sonic reboot?
@waltercomunello121
@waltercomunello121 6 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@aven6825
@aven6825 6 жыл бұрын
Not Big Surprise yeah that was me when I was scrolling through KZbin.
@moongoose8768
@moongoose8768 6 жыл бұрын
Right?
@tuffmanchannel
@tuffmanchannel 6 жыл бұрын
Ironic, considering your name is Not Big Surprise.
@TheDen-ec9xe
@TheDen-ec9xe 6 жыл бұрын
The big surprise is that it's crap.
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi 6 жыл бұрын
Hold up fam, did you just call Sonic Riders _mediocre?_ I take significant issue with that statement but I like there rest of your video so I'll let it slide.
@Zonose
@Zonose 6 жыл бұрын
Same, I loved that game so much.
@katomamundara8106
@katomamundara8106 6 жыл бұрын
Why Hello there!
@THM_Somedude
@THM_Somedude 6 жыл бұрын
Damn straight. Calling Sonic Riders mediocre is very offensive but I have to agree. The video does justice. Still upset about that line.
@Sonlirain
@Sonlirain 6 жыл бұрын
Sonic Riders was ok. Zero gravity was better. Free Riders was awful.
@sshadowtamer
@sshadowtamer 6 жыл бұрын
Same.
@arthurbaker1592
@arthurbaker1592 6 жыл бұрын
Drake, the new comics take place in the same continuity as the games and the "war" you mentioned happened it Sonic Forces. Actually, this whole new comic series is a glorified sequel of Sonic Forces. It shows the aftermath of the war and what happened to the main cast. I hope you see this, BTW I love your channel.
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 6 жыл бұрын
Has there been a confirmed source for this?
@yourfriendlyneighbohoodpiz7683
@yourfriendlyneighbohoodpiz7683 6 жыл бұрын
Comic Drake Actually, the comics are a separate continuity, and yes that was confirmed by IDW and the team before the first issue released. The events of Sonic Forces did happen in this continuity, however.
@shrektheogre4349
@shrektheogre4349 6 жыл бұрын
Comic Drake It’s kinda obvious if you played the game. Like it takes place almost directly after and has a few set pieces from the game
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 6 жыл бұрын
That would involve playing Sonic Forces. I heard it was pretty bad so I never bothered with it.
@TheSilentNinja137
@TheSilentNinja137 6 жыл бұрын
Comic Drake. I had fun with it
@RobertoBlake
@RobertoBlake 6 жыл бұрын
I’m actually a huge fan of the Sonic comics
@johnathonturner2279
@johnathonturner2279 6 жыл бұрын
I have seen some of the Archie comics. They are WAY too weird for someone who has been invested in the lore of the main games.
@daseal1479
@daseal1479 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Archieverse was my favorite continuity while it was around.
@koolmckool7039
@koolmckool7039 6 жыл бұрын
@@johnathonturner2279 Guess I'm the exception.
@DekuOfPower
@DekuOfPower 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of both the main and Archie continuities. Archie had its ups and downs like all series, but I was genuinely interested, and I'm still kinda sad we aren't getting the rest of Lost Hedgehog Tales for the time being (though I'm so happy Ian is continuing to write for Sonic). Are there any good communities out there that still discuss the old book? I was always kinda alone in my love for them, but it still runs through my head sometimes.
@daseal1479
@daseal1479 6 жыл бұрын
@@DekuOfPower Same here, that's why while i'll miss the extensive history and lore behind the Archieverse, The IDW comics are a nice compromise. Plus I already like IDW for their Godzilla and Transformers comics.
@NeoxSereki
@NeoxSereki 6 жыл бұрын
Fun fact Whisper was designed by Evan Stanley. A long time sonic fan who runs her own fan comic on DA. Team Sonic Comic (which is the unoffical collective name of the people behind the sonic comics) really enjoy her work even back in the archie days. To the point where they let her pen one of the Sonic Universe side comics. Now that they are at IDW she is being brought in more and more often and most likely she will be getting a job with the team after she graduates college.
@MmeCShadow
@MmeCShadow 6 жыл бұрын
Because it has the same creative team under Ian Flynn without the years and years of baggage that came from the original comic run. Given the miracles Flynn worked disentangling the Gordian Knot that Penders left behind (before the whole universe had to reset) it's great to see him being able to just write stories without having to fix somebody else's mess.
@KennethMoreland
@KennethMoreland 6 жыл бұрын
Ian Flynn is trash. He ruined Jet the Hawk's arc in the original.
@DeeCross
@DeeCross 6 жыл бұрын
​@@KennethMoreland If this is about the Jet story arc in Universe, that was actually written by Tracy Yardley, the regular penciller.
@Astralchain2025
@Astralchain2025 6 жыл бұрын
I read the Sonic comics when I was a kid, I lost issue around when the original Robotnik died in issue 50... which is really soon now that I think about it... Can you expand on what happened, what had to be reset, and why?
@Mysticgamer
@Mysticgamer 6 жыл бұрын
@@Astralchain2025 Long story short, Ken Penders sued Archie over ownership of his Sonic comic characters. They could use them but only if they extra, they didnt want to, so they had the remaining writers do a crisis do over and wiped out all of Ken Penders sonic characters. To get a list google Ken Penders sonic characters to how many.
@Astralchain2025
@Astralchain2025 6 жыл бұрын
@@Mysticgamer Wow... That's crazy. He straight up decided to sink the ship that gave him his livelihood for so many years.
@doraeguyakaneddie6586
@doraeguyakaneddie6586 6 жыл бұрын
Your not dressed up as Sonic your dressed as my original character “Drake the Hedgehog”
@averagecommentator9779
@averagecommentator9779 6 жыл бұрын
@@charlie4christ536 get out my porch
@gray6004
@gray6004 6 жыл бұрын
@@charlie4christ536 Jesus doesn't exist
@myers14
@myers14 6 жыл бұрын
@@charlie4christ536 stay off my lawn
@Maxgamer-fd7hv
@Maxgamer-fd7hv 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Neddlemouse You're everywhere
@gost4864
@gost4864 6 жыл бұрын
*_I'M NOT SONIC_*
@billcipher2604
@billcipher2604 6 жыл бұрын
The fact that you didn't actually know anything about Sonic Forces and it's story, but the IDW comics, which depend of those events right now, made you understand what happened and be invested on that story more that the actual game probably would have, means they did a good job making this friendly for more casual Sonic fans.
@VanillaSoup
@VanillaSoup 6 жыл бұрын
The Archie Sonic Comics were my first introduction to Comic Books. They in turn got me into comic books as a whole. I loved your thoughts, and agree 100%
@prophet1390
@prophet1390 6 жыл бұрын
8:35 “enjoying comics” love how you found an excuse to put him in a Sonic episode
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 6 жыл бұрын
There's no situation where an appearance from Booster Gold doesn't make it better.
@prophet1390
@prophet1390 6 жыл бұрын
Comic Drake you’re not wrong
@sakana8082
@sakana8082 6 жыл бұрын
@@prophet1390 you're*
@prophet1390
@prophet1390 6 жыл бұрын
PiKs thx m8
@gatst7680
@gatst7680 6 жыл бұрын
Because Ian Flynn wrote it. I think he wrote it at least.
@JohnR.DeLuca
@JohnR.DeLuca 6 жыл бұрын
He's the head writer, yes.
@bobbymccabe2825
@bobbymccabe2825 6 жыл бұрын
Gats T he should write the plots for the game.
@DisasterEnby
@DisasterEnby 6 жыл бұрын
Ian should really write for a Sonic game at some point
@TheDen-ec9xe
@TheDen-ec9xe 6 жыл бұрын
You mean a talentless neckbeard wrote them ? Because he's a talentless hack.
@TheDen-ec9xe
@TheDen-ec9xe 6 жыл бұрын
@@bobbymccabe2825 And have everyone act like cookie cutter douchebags, Sonic being NEVER in real danger, zero world building, lots of pointless references ? Nah, the games are already shit as they are. We don't need a talentless overrated neckbeard.
@sonic1on2wiiu
@sonic1on2wiiu 6 жыл бұрын
5:03 Isn't the war they are talking about the one that happened in Sonic Forces?, as far as I know, the comic takes place just after the events of Forces
@JohnR.DeLuca
@JohnR.DeLuca 6 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 6 жыл бұрын
oh god that means they migth shoehorn in Infinite even though he's terrible
@JohnR.DeLuca
@JohnR.DeLuca 6 жыл бұрын
@@sarafontanini7051 (Whispering) Or maybe they might have the opportunity to bring him back and flesh him out more, knowing Ian Flynn.
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 6 жыл бұрын
@@JohnR.DeLuca they MIGHT be able to, if they give him a better motive than 'because shadow kicked my ass one time' and yknow give him a proper personality, backstory and NAME. But i dunno, not every villain Ian Flynn and co. touched turned out good (Iron Queen and her husband come to mind, wasn't really a fan of them)
@koolmckool7039
@koolmckool7039 6 жыл бұрын
@@sarafontanini7051 It's written by Ian Flynn. He could make Infinite great.
@obara7366
@obara7366 6 жыл бұрын
I see Comic Drake notification, I like. I see Comic Drake talking about Sonic, Smashes phone screen with fumbly fingers.
@GoldPrince2468
@GoldPrince2468 6 жыл бұрын
I miss the SatAm Sonic characters and I wish I could read these comics. On the bright side: they didn’t kill Eggman.
@yourfriendlyneighbohoodpiz7683
@yourfriendlyneighbohoodpiz7683 6 жыл бұрын
As someone who has watched both, I think you should check out Sonic Boom(Season 2 is where the show is at it’s best)and Sonic Mania Adventures. They are both really good even though they are radically different from one another.
@PhoenixEnforcer101
@PhoenixEnforcer101 6 жыл бұрын
Sonic boom is so damn funny. Season 1 is great too
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 6 жыл бұрын
@@PhoenixEnforcer101 Season 1 was incredibly mediocre if you ask me.
@PhoenixEnforcer101
@PhoenixEnforcer101 6 жыл бұрын
@@mattwo7 I can see why you'd say that. Season 2 is definitely funnier
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 6 жыл бұрын
@@PhoenixEnforcer101 I haven't seen all of season 2 yet myself so I have no strong opinions of it as of right now.
@moirapalace3946
@moirapalace3946 6 жыл бұрын
@@mattwo7 I recommend it.
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 6 жыл бұрын
I'm still sad about the archie situation. So many aborted story arcs thanks to Penders/Sega, so many characters I really, really liked being thrown away, so much continuity tossed away...it's pretty depressing as a huge fan of the archie sonic universe and cast :( While I am interested in this new series,it just isn't the same, and that will always make me feel pretty sad. I at least hope they do what archie did: make eggman both funny AND legitimately threatening.
@Lumgus
@Lumgus 6 жыл бұрын
I really think you should give IDW Sonic a try. I'm an archie sonic fan as well, and I would say this comic is almost as entertaining as the archie series. The only thing that somewhat bothers me is how nerfed sonic is compared to his archie counterpart.
@kingabsalon21
@kingabsalon21 6 жыл бұрын
@@Lumgus wait like how nerfed like his powers?
@Lumgus
@Lumgus 6 жыл бұрын
@@kingabsalon21 Hes been nerfed in terms of almost all his skills. Hes weaker in strength and skill, but speed is still debatable
@kingabsalon21
@kingabsalon21 6 жыл бұрын
@@Lumgus why they nerfed him tho i like him broken
@kingabsalon21
@kingabsalon21 6 жыл бұрын
@@Lumgus i thought that he was gonna be even more broken than Archie
@Ice-Climber
@Ice-Climber 6 жыл бұрын
Please use as little of Ken Penders' artwork as possible.
@TheDarkMaster312
@TheDarkMaster312 6 жыл бұрын
Did you hear what Penders said about Stan Lee? "You won't be missed" what an asshole
@rdphoenix07
@rdphoenix07 6 жыл бұрын
He said that? Really? That dipshit had the balls to insult one of the biggest comic book legends of all time when his own comic series is complete and utter trash? I hope Sonic and Stan Lee fans piss on his grave when he dies. And I will say good riddance to him.
@indigorose6527
@indigorose6527 6 жыл бұрын
who is ken pender?
@Ice-Climber
@Ice-Climber 6 жыл бұрын
@@indigorose6527 Ken Penders is an infamous artist who worked on the Archie Sonic series for a long time. He's a terrible writer as well pretty much responsible for that series' OC problem. Archie lost his contract and that allowed him to trademark a number of "characters", which lead to a big legal dispute and the eventual reboot. His "characters" are now in his own book (with examples of its horrible artwork being present in the video). He also tried to sue Sega and EA over Sonic the Dark Brotherhood (a game developed by Bioware before EA bought them) and failed. Twice.
@indigorose6527
@indigorose6527 6 жыл бұрын
Ice Climber ooh yeaah. One of the reasons I couldn't get into the Archie comics was some of the art i found unappealing. It may seem silly but I have an artistic eye, so i prefer to read something that appeals to it. This also applies when reading the story as well. I was just so overwhelmed with all of the characters in Archie comics that i could no longer keep up. I actually somewhat enjoy most of the newer art and story in the IDW comics. It actually allowed me to grow on the wisp more and appreciate what tried (and unfortunately failed somewhat) in sonic forces.
@punknight427
@punknight427 6 жыл бұрын
The war was actually the events of sonic forces (the game didn't get that across very well)
@chocov1233
@chocov1233 6 жыл бұрын
Dark Ark There's nothing good about this, that's why it's called war" - Commander Knucles in Sonic Forces 2017.
@hayond656
@hayond656 4 жыл бұрын
The game? Wasn't the game made before this comic even started? So I don't see why the game would want to get that across
@Glitchboi82
@Glitchboi82 9 ай бұрын
@@hayond656 Hello, I am from 3 years in the future. I think what they were trying to say is that the comics are referencing sonic forces when talking about the war.
@hayond656
@hayond656 9 ай бұрын
@@Glitchboi82 Yeah I know that. But looking at "the Game didn't get that across" I think what past Me was asking is why the Game would even want to show that. Didn't the Comic start AFTER Forces? As far as I was concerned Forces doesn't know the Comics existed
@Glitchboi82
@Glitchboi82 9 ай бұрын
@@hayond656 I understand. I drew the connection I did mainly because the first issue of the current run, and forces came out 5 months apart. And with the context of what (they said) happened in forces, and what other characters were doing in the earlier issues of the comics, it would be logical to assume that the comics and forces were at least somewhat aware of each other.
@billcipher2604
@billcipher2604 6 жыл бұрын
The great think about the IDW comics is that they are basically the last years of Archie Sonic, even with the same main writer, but without having the weight of an extremely long story with a really complicated and bizarre world and the mistakes of...some people...during the earlier years that inevitably affected the comic. This is a completly fresh start where all the events before Sonic Forces happen, making it easier to follow than a completly different world with character you've never seen before.
@HannyaHalo
@HannyaHalo 2 жыл бұрын
after Sonic Forces
@victikirby15
@victikirby15 6 жыл бұрын
Can they reboot the Mega Man comic too? Please?
@MegaUnavalible
@MegaUnavalible 6 жыл бұрын
Id rather have a continuation
@GiubileiFernando
@GiubileiFernando 6 жыл бұрын
@@MegaUnavalible A reboot was something good for Sonic because it had many things to fix, but I can't think of anything wrong about the Mega Man comic
@TangledLion
@TangledLion 6 жыл бұрын
@@GiubileiFernando Ah but there is something wrong; There currently isn't one.
@Karls_Clips
@Karls_Clips 6 жыл бұрын
@@GiubileiFernando best to reboot just so it doesn't have legal issues with archie
@hayden911
@hayden911 6 жыл бұрын
YEEEESSSSSSS
@SandraThePhox
@SandraThePhox 6 жыл бұрын
Did you just call Sonic Riders...mediocre
@NewEraSupreme
@NewEraSupreme 6 жыл бұрын
That game use to be my shit
@FaithfulServant41
@FaithfulServant41 6 жыл бұрын
Free Riders probably.
@deviantartguy0
@deviantartguy0 6 жыл бұрын
I always hated that 100 ring per race limit. Let me buy my race cloud.
@prophet1390
@prophet1390 6 жыл бұрын
Love your new work uniform!
@dreamsdeep1076
@dreamsdeep1076 6 жыл бұрын
Sega should make animated series based on IDW sonic comics
@dreamsdeep1076
@dreamsdeep1076 6 жыл бұрын
Non-Ugandan Knuckles Nah I’m not really much of Classic Sonic Fan though I love Mania and sonic 3 & Knuckles
@Mr-wr2id
@Mr-wr2id 5 жыл бұрын
Oh yes they should
@lamaripiazza5226
@lamaripiazza5226 4 жыл бұрын
No Archie comics
@KingKodiak
@KingKodiak 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering the Sonic comics! The original Archie Run was my gateway into comics when I was only 8, so it's nice that this well needed reboot with a new company is getting some love. :)
@vanessasonica
@vanessasonica 6 жыл бұрын
I want that sonic hoodie!!!
@GrimDrago
@GrimDrago 6 жыл бұрын
I hope they reboot the Sonic Boom comic with IDW too. It was a funny comic that was fun to read which was thankfully detached from the previous Archie Sonic series outside a crossover.
@seacliff217
@seacliff217 6 жыл бұрын
I liked it too, but they basically ended up reusing a handful of the plotlines and some of the jokes for the show's second season, which makes me believe it's not popular enough for them to reboot it.
@justaname9330
@justaname9330 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the IDW series has been really good so far. I'm still upset that the Archie series and a lot of the lore and the characters connected to it are gone now, but the new series does help a bit. If only they(IDW) could somehow get the rights to the Archie characters like Sally, Rotor, Bunny, Nicole and the others and bring them over, but I know that'll never happen.
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 6 жыл бұрын
well some folks did try and do their version of the archie continuity online, but i have no idea how far along (if at all) it has prgressed.
@justaname9330
@justaname9330 6 жыл бұрын
@@sarafontanini7051 I'll have to look into that sometime.
@TGHunter
@TGHunter 6 жыл бұрын
The freedom fighters will appear in the idw, they are from sega, so we can expect them in the future
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 6 жыл бұрын
@@TGHunter actually they DON'T, last I checked. The freedom fights were created for a cartoon and appeared in the comics, but other than that have not appeared in ANY official sega games or otherwise and I'm pretty sure technically SEGA doesn't own them. Only the freedom fights that appeared in the games (sonic, tails etc) belong to SEGA.
@justaname9330
@justaname9330 6 жыл бұрын
@@TGHunter The rights for the Archie Freedom Fighters probably have a ton of legal issues to go through to get, considering the were originally made for a cartoon and then used by the Archie comic for 20+ years. And that's ignoring the fact that Sega didn't like the Archie comic, and probably it's characters with it, a lot because of how much it diverged from the games. I think they wanted the comic to solely advertise whatever game was new at the time, not even caring that a good comic that can stand on it's own right promotes the series far better than a glorified ad for an individual game at a time. Fortunately the IDW comic has been pretty good so far, but if it goes that way I can see it dragging the series down.
@chocov1233
@chocov1233 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad the IDW comics are sticking closer to the games continuity. Newer readers don't have to worry about a billion Echidnas, distant family members, relationships, and politics. Ian Flynn (and other writers) can now write more grounded stories, and alaborate on games with basic plots.
@anthonyrodriguez8788
@anthonyrodriguez8788 6 жыл бұрын
@Non-Ugandan Knuckles Whatever happened to humanity?
@theringsragingflameinciner3901
@theringsragingflameinciner3901 6 жыл бұрын
@Non-Ugandan Knuckles oh shut up
@MyNinjaPenguin17
@MyNinjaPenguin17 6 жыл бұрын
Those "billion Echidnas" were freakin' awesome, though...
@anthonyrodriguez8788
@anthonyrodriguez8788 6 жыл бұрын
@@MyNinjaPenguin17 Apparently awesome enough for Ken Penders to screw over all of Archie Sonic for them
@MyNinjaPenguin17
@MyNinjaPenguin17 6 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 Hey, I'm not defending Ken Penders, just the characters he created.
@kingcheerio8558
@kingcheerio8558 2 жыл бұрын
3 years later, and you did finally make that Ken Penders video
@aaronhill950
@aaronhill950 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of the time, there are people online that always focus on the faults of media, whether it be comics, movies, video games, or other. That is a valid thing to do, but... it’s just nice to hear someone go, “you see this comic? This is a good comic.” It’s nice to hear some positivity, so thank you.
@SmashPortal
@SmashPortal 6 жыл бұрын
> The silver age (original comics) > The great depression (Ken Penders) > The golden age (pre-super genesis wave) > The post-apocolyptic age (post-super genesis wave) > The new age (current)
@the-NightStar
@the-NightStar 5 жыл бұрын
Long ago, the Archie Sonic Comics and fans lived in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Ken Penders attacked.
@rickyrackey7930
@rickyrackey7930 2 жыл бұрын
“But I believe that IDW Can save the world.”
@EmperorDodd
@EmperorDodd 6 жыл бұрын
As a longtime fan of the Archie Sonic comics, I find IDW's Sonic to be really good in exactly the ways I expected it to be when I learned it has the same creative team. One part of that is how they handle references to the source material. As a treat to fans, they'll often use a snippet of dialogue taken directly from one of the games (or another previous adaptation). It would be easy for that sort of thing to feel jarring, but I think they do a very good job of only using lines that still work just as well in their new context, too. I never get the feeling that someone unfamiliar with a quote's origin would still recognize it AS a quote. When a reference is done poorly, you can tell it must be a reference even if you're unfamiliar with the source, because it sticks out from its new context. You think to yourself, "that phrasing felt awkward. Must be a reference to something." IDW Sonic does references very well--for example, as Drake says, the story of the comics is still just as good if you assume the war was never shown, or know it refers to Sonic Forces but haven't played that game. (Yes, I read the pinned comment, I know it's already been pointed out that Drake was mistaken about this. What's important for my point is that making that mistake in no way harmed his enjoyment of the comics, which I think reflects very well on said comic series. It stands alone perfectly well, and if you do get the references, that's a bonus, not a requirement for entry.)
@daniisd2555
@daniisd2555 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing light to these amazing comics. Its been a dream of mine to one day work on the art of a sonic property and both the Archie and IDW line have inspired me in many ways.
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 6 жыл бұрын
5:03 This war was in Sonic Forces. It's ok, no one really felt like there was an actual war going on in that game because of the unimaginably terrible job of storytelling it did...
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 6 жыл бұрын
Yea it's easy to tell that a lot got chopped out, it would have really benefited from being longer, I for one blame crunch time. Clear enough they learned literally nothing from Rise of Lyric aside from ironing out the bugs before release....
@NICKatronMC
@NICKatronMC 6 жыл бұрын
It has Neo Metal Sonic, that’s why (Just to clarify, Neo Metal Sonic is my favorite villain in the Sonic Franchise)
@acemagalor2519
@acemagalor2519 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the one thing I don’t like about the reboot is just How many restrictions Sega put onto the creatives like: the planet must remain unamed or, Sonic can’t cry and things like that
@t4washere384
@t4washere384 6 жыл бұрын
Also ofcourse its great, it written by Ian Flynn! He has been writing good shit for age, its just that nobody [important] cared... But I will say his Mega Man series was better then his old Archie Sonic stuff, most because as the "sonic dissected" put it, he did not have to be the janitor cleaning up after Sega. And I do fear that his prediction that this series are going to face the same problems when the next game comes about. Hey who down for a 4 issue arc about car racing and everyone being rude jerks towards each other? Well to bad~ But knowing Ian he will at least make it funny, thats why I love Bean the Dynamite and Omega after all.
@McShmoodle
@McShmoodle 6 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. I was a pretty avid reader of Archie Sonic and Mega Man, and it was pretty obvious that Capcom wasn't too particular about Mega Man's portrayal, letting him have much more nuanced character development and having more relatable insecurities. Meanwhile, Sonic, as fun as he was, is pretty much static and doesn't really get to show a lot of emotion
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 6 жыл бұрын
@@McShmoodle Sega became WAY too hands on during the last few years of the comic's run, vetoing many potential plot threads and ideas even aside from the Penders debacle, even outright forbiding that Sonic get a canonical love interest, which was a double edged sword.
@chocov1233
@chocov1233 6 жыл бұрын
T4 wasHere Sega didn't write the comics, they just landed Archie the characters. Sega makes game, not comics.
@chocov1233
@chocov1233 6 жыл бұрын
T4 wasHere I'm glad the IDW comics are sticking to the games more closely. Don't have to worry about a billion Echidnas, distant family members, relationships, and politics. Ian (and other writers) can now just write more grounded stories, and alaborate on games with basic plots.
@southdraw1017
@southdraw1017 4 жыл бұрын
He's not good in my opinion, he is still on one ark, made amy into a completely different character, his Archie run failed (not because of Sega, the mandations was all Flynn), he killed off the freedom fighters and turn evil for no or terrible reasons, and not to mention he scarred Cream a fricking six year old in the IDW comics. Even though Penders is an idiot, he still sold comics.
@obara7366
@obara7366 6 жыл бұрын
Aww, I'm glad you're hanging in there! I love your content and your personality. Have a happy Thanksgiving!
@likedmyowncomment3547
@likedmyowncomment3547 6 жыл бұрын
Dude just called Sonic Riders mediocre, must've never knew how to play the game lol.
@Necroside145
@Necroside145 6 жыл бұрын
Or he only played that Kinect game.
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 6 жыл бұрын
6:04 He had one in Sonic Heroes where he was also the main villain with a bait and switch with Robotnik actually , that's specifically the version of him from Sonic Heroes too, Neo Metal Sonic -(Master Overlord is basically just an alternate version of Metal Overlord too but Neo Metal Sonic never went super in Sonic Heroes).-
@mediadetective6104
@mediadetective6104 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, Sonic had a Crisis on Infinite Earths situation?! Shit....now I’m just going to be thinking of Sonic holding the dead body of Amy, shouting and crying dramatically while other universe Sonics and other Sega characters like Mega Man in the background. Also thinking of the idea of Infinite Crisis, Shadow telling Sonic “the last time you inspired anybody was multiple games ago” and seeing the Sonic 06 version of Sonic be Superboy Prime causing chaos and whining
@OneTakko
@OneTakko 2 жыл бұрын
here from the ken penders video fr
@macaronitheeevee9213
@macaronitheeevee9213 6 жыл бұрын
I personally love this comic. It has all the orginal game charchters in it, new charchters that are not showing up every 2 seconds and I love the designs for them. I have seen some people moan about the artsyles of the comic, the fact that the freedom fighters are not in it and Ian flynn being on the team and I have actually seen someone wanting Ken Penders to work on it instead. Wut lol. Finally, I know I am going to get a lot of hate for this but I don't want the freedom fighters to apper in the new comic. Let them remain at peace please.
@johnathonturner2279
@johnathonturner2279 4 жыл бұрын
I have to agree. Don't want them shoehorned in.
@linux750
@linux750 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this excellent news. Hopefully this will get the "full shonen manga treatment". What I mean by that is that I hope that THIS version of The Sonic Comic becomes popular, successful, and gets a WELL DUBBED anime made from it. Only time will tell us if that can happen.
@acegamerultragamer1532
@acegamerultragamer1532 5 жыл бұрын
Give me Mike Pollock Eggman and it's a deal.
@HostSpeedy7
@HostSpeedy7 5 жыл бұрын
I personally liked it cause the storyline after forces is cool. I also like the fact that we see neo metal sonic actually fight in his current form. Not even the sonic heros movie or comic version do we see metal fight as neo metal sonic.
@dyll9323
@dyll9323 6 жыл бұрын
Your channel is my favorite comic book channel, it seems so much more simplified and focused to introduce new people to comic books. Keep up the good work! (This sonic reboot looks really cool btw.)
@Karls_Clips
@Karls_Clips 6 жыл бұрын
Because the archie comics by this team was also this good, its just nobody noticed, thats why megaman flopped, the series was amazing.
@Bardic_Knowledge
@Bardic_Knowledge 2 жыл бұрын
Amusingly, the mentioned Penders video is the one that had me listening to more of your videos while I worked.
@genozp2328
@genozp2328 6 жыл бұрын
I loved Archie Sonic the Hedgehog series, both before and after the soft reboot; though they'd be better as separate continuities. I have heard the UK Fleetway Sonic the Comic series is quite good as well. Archie's series is by FAR my favorite, though it doesn't get good until around comic 50; my opinion of course. IDW Sonic the Hedgehog is also really good, strong start. Not what I wanted, but it is still good. With Sonic being "older" now, it isn't as easy to do your own backstory and characters to build your own world of Sonic. I love having lots of characters, with deep story. Starting from a recent video game creates some limits for their world building, but it is also more appealing to the majority. I suggest reading Archie's Sonic, but trudge through the first 20 for the first few. Same with Fleetway's, but I am still working on the that one. I, personally, am very passionate on Sonic the Hedgehog... If only there was a Super Mario comic, but Nintendo denied Archie for one. Great video, and facts. I like that you aren't one of the obsessively arrogant/ignorant haters. Your trust-worthy, as far as I can tell. God bless you sir! Happy Thanksgiving And Merry Christmas!
@SadgeFrawg
@SadgeFrawg 6 жыл бұрын
last time i checked you were going through some things. So glad you’re doing better
@JovialEclipse
@JovialEclipse 5 жыл бұрын
Its more like a continuation of the main Sonic Timeline but id say its a really good story
@johnmobley9369
@johnmobley9369 2 жыл бұрын
IDW could take any cartoon/game/tv show/or movie franchise generally for children into some amazing comics
6 жыл бұрын
You know, it really is interesting to see how Sonic is one of the few videogame characters that it's succesfully adapted into media outside games, sure there are major miss-steps but there are some mayor gems, like the comics. And IDW continues that, I just hope to see the Freedom Fighters sooner rather than later PS: Come on Scourge was a good character!
@johnathonturner2279
@johnathonturner2279 4 жыл бұрын
Scourge was taken by Penders, and this is a different continuity, so I don't think the FF's are coming back soon.
@HannyaHalo
@HannyaHalo 2 жыл бұрын
btw Metal Sonic's personality is pulled straight from Sonic Heroes.
@mechajay3358
@mechajay3358 6 жыл бұрын
I was fond of the Archie Sonic comics, but I have to say IDW's is a refresher for the series.
@FullmetalSonic260
@FullmetalSonic260 6 жыл бұрын
Been wanting to read these for a while, was legit excited to read them when they were announced, but I want to binge them at some point and not have to wait. It's inevitable that I would have to wait for new issues, though having a lot to binge when it's actually something I enjoy and am interested in is always a nice cozy feeling.
@aliminator1310
@aliminator1310 4 жыл бұрын
I'm REALLY glad that they rebooted the series! It allows new readers (Like myself!) to get in on the action, without having to catch up on/ deal with the EXTREMELY confusing continuity!
@TheMohammadr
@TheMohammadr 3 жыл бұрын
First of all, DRAKE YOURE IN THE TOP TEN COMIC KZbinRS EVER. I love you and all the passion/dedication you have for this medium. I’ve picked up comics cuz of you, comicstorian, and variant. I love this culture and wish I could do more to support. I Know how thankless being a creative is and I hope you continue doing this and become a millionaire soon. You deserve it buddy
@JohnR.DeLuca
@JohnR.DeLuca 6 жыл бұрын
It's great to hear from people like you that haven't really read the Archie book that much (R.I.P it shall be forever missed) and are really digging the new IDW book. The IDW book far really does feel like an expanded universe companion book to the games. I can't wait what awaits us next year with this book. . . . Also do check out Sonic Boom. It's a really good show, especially season 2.
@Runescythe9852
@Runescythe9852 6 жыл бұрын
I remember reading the sonic comics as a kid for the exact reason you did. Sadly I stopped collecting or even reading comics due to a lost of interest and other hobbies. Still nice to see that I can probably pick up on it in a fresh new state.
@saturngalactic6128
@saturngalactic6128 6 жыл бұрын
I would say these comics are pretty great in terms of art and character design. The story is admittedly odd, but IDW is world building right now like they do with their other comics so I’m waiting to see what happens. I also know IDW is not conservative with the use of old characters so who knows what villains or heroes will appear again?
@matt817
@matt817 4 жыл бұрын
Comic is after Sonic Forces
@drsladic101
@drsladic101 6 жыл бұрын
5:03 sorry to break it to you but, the events of these comics are a continuation from the Sonic Forces game. thats what the comic is referring to when it talks about the war and what happened to eggman and some other stuff
@lunatic0verlord10
@lunatic0verlord10 6 жыл бұрын
1:52 Hell, it's in an identity crisis *right now!* I mean, they now say that the Classic series is an alternate dimension.
@jamalhartley5863
@jamalhartley5863 6 жыл бұрын
I love the new series already and it doesn't surprise me that's it's good. Ian Flynn was given a continuaty that was a real shitshow after Penders. He gave the world focus and scope. His writing was so good that an entire series that had very little Sonic in it was a good series Sonic Universe. He wrote Sonic as a true hero someone who could inspire. Now he has a chance to create something from the ground up without the limitations placed on him by the previous lore or lawsuit. He is truly free to be as creative as he wants and it shows the very first few issues.
@keithanchester
@keithanchester 6 жыл бұрын
Things are going to change for the better. And you're gonna grow, I see it.
@robertmuggeridge4736
@robertmuggeridge4736 6 жыл бұрын
The new comic reminds me of when I was a kid reading the UK sonic the comic series which i still to this day think was amazing.
@julioc.toledo
@julioc.toledo 6 жыл бұрын
Continue overcoming to become, and all the best, Drake! Rooting for you!
@jhonandrews2674
@jhonandrews2674 6 жыл бұрын
Watch sonic boom it's really good and meta if u like meta content, even if u don't it's a fun show that maintains that old sonic feel while still being new and refreshing
@bluecorp8557
@bluecorp8557 6 жыл бұрын
Lol no it's not. Sonic Boom is trash. Sonic doesn't sound like a bored middle age guy. He's an adventure spirit action hero and Sonic Boom will never portray him like that.
@calepjones1663
@calepjones1663 6 жыл бұрын
@@bluecorp8557 "Your opinion is wrong"
@alfa01spotivo
@alfa01spotivo 6 жыл бұрын
@@bluecorp8557 it's a different dimension Sonic. He's not supposed to be exactly like Game Sonic.
@sterlingattaway5225
@sterlingattaway5225 6 жыл бұрын
Jhon Andrews are you trolling? 😂
@alfa01spotivo
@alfa01spotivo 6 жыл бұрын
@@sterlingattaway5225 I like it
@dranoradragonqueen1494
@dranoradragonqueen1494 5 жыл бұрын
This comic made me cry multiple times and I went into them skeptically. I'm also looking forward to the next episodes. I loved it the whole time!
@mx.e2176
@mx.e2176 6 жыл бұрын
I thought this was an anime. It still looks like something I’d like to pick up if I see it, also are you okay? You don’t sound like you’re living your life judging by what you said when you talked about comics as a hobby and being a KZbinr
@Harrinsain
@Harrinsain 6 жыл бұрын
whenever i read a comic, i think "damn, wish this had a cartoon adaptation". and i think that for this more than i do anything i've read in a while
@thehoneyqueen1765
@thehoneyqueen1765 6 жыл бұрын
I _loved_ the Sonic Archie comic series growing up. I can't complain with IDW, though.
@kieranstark7213
@kieranstark7213 4 жыл бұрын
Unlike the rabid IDW hatedom that worships Archie Comics (not just the Sonic comics, but also the regular Archie Comics, especially Riverdale)
@thehoneyqueen1765
@thehoneyqueen1765 4 жыл бұрын
Kieran Stark Wow. Thank fully I don’t think I’ve come across them yet. ^^
@jekblom123
@jekblom123 6 жыл бұрын
EEYYY! you got your Sonic comics at the grocery store too! There was this one rotating wire stand rack in the magazine isle that I got my Sonic comics from for over a decade. It's gone now. That rack provided me a lot of exposition over the years.
@gokanshurisbabyfather4003
@gokanshurisbabyfather4003 6 жыл бұрын
Im going to miss the freedom fighters😕
@redirk2633
@redirk2633 4 жыл бұрын
I like how Whisper’s name is a joke on how she whispers, and used whisps
@Sonic_Gamer501
@Sonic_Gamer501 6 жыл бұрын
I really want to read the IDW Sonic comics, but I don't know where to find them, and I'm not gonna pirate them.
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 6 жыл бұрын
Online and at your local comic store.
@Tuxflop
@Tuxflop 6 жыл бұрын
www.idwpublishing.com/trending_titles/sonic-the-hedgehog/
@halojustin1
@halojustin1 6 жыл бұрын
You make amazing content and I’ve been enjoying this new series keep up the good work
@snortobortoowo
@snortobortoowo 5 жыл бұрын
Its okay, I'm really missing the freedom fighters though, specifically Sally.
@JoshTML
@JoshTML 6 жыл бұрын
The reason why most original fans are not big fans of the IDW comic don't like it because it seems to miss why they liked it. the original series had a sense of grit, plot twists that you would NEVER see coming and original characters who while not super in depth had enough depth for you to like or even relate to them. The new comics feel like they are supposed to be super bouncy, cartoony fights. I don't feel like they are in any danger when fighting eggman's bots. Yes they could deal with SWAT-butts (callback) fairly easily but characters were often caught or hurt by these bots and it surprised everyone. My favorite Arc in the Archie comics was when Princess Sally was "killed" (not really, spoilers) and you had to watch as all of sonic's friends felt truly betrayed by him and watch Sonic be genuinely scared and terrified at the sight of his oldest friend and often love interest "dead" and at his hands! With no explanation why Sonic would do this and Sonic himself having a memory lapse of the events during Sally's death day he is captured and passed judgement on by the knothole court. Sonic escapes and is on the run from Geoffrey St. John (my personal favorite character) who is feverishly chasing him and closing in. Also It was known in the comics that sonic was the main character yes, but all the other characters had healthy developing personalities and did things on their own (i.e. Tails leaving knothole to tough it out on an island and meeting Fiona, future love interest [kind of, you'll see] and characters finding out on their own that sonic did not kill sally in the previously mentioned arc, creating a whole other mystery for you to find out). The reason why I can't really get into the new series is because its missing those features. not to mention a lot of people liked how it felt like an actual jungle/ other fantasy land and not a clear "this could only be in a video game" landscape. there were no loop de loop hills, or weird out of place palm trees. There was a swamp, a massive MASSIVE forest, an australian type Desert, A jungle, the floating island was actually a really really cool locale that had an amazing history that Ken penders (idiot of the century award) straight up destroyed because he got greedy and lazy. The original comics felt like an actual adventure novel with real consequences and actual villains. It will forever be underappreciated but i think that is okay because that just means people who do find it amazing will enjoy it even more :)
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 6 жыл бұрын
4:00 Unless of course you for some dumb reason actually liked Penders' work considering he's not allowed ten feet within the franchise period anymore.
@naobi666
@naobi666 6 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I've seen by you, but I really enjoyed it. You just got another subscriber. :3
@rubiconprime1429
@rubiconprime1429 6 жыл бұрын
Will you talk about the idw transformers too?
@luisgiler7104
@luisgiler7104 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Drake just wanted to take a quick second to tell you that you've quickly become one of my favorites KZbin creators and I watch a lot of KZbin. Keep up the great work!
@deviousj5868
@deviousj5868 6 жыл бұрын
Wow IDW to the rescue. The Ken Pender mess ruined the series but it's good IDW picked up the slack. Why was the Sonic Comic more compelling and better than the games they were based off? It's crazy the games could take a page out of the books. They can now with IDW. Awesome video.
@johnathonturner2279
@johnathonturner2279 4 жыл бұрын
Simple. One form of media is more geared towards storytelling than the other.
@justlea6179
@justlea6179 6 жыл бұрын
Whoever names all the comics here in the video: you deserve a seal of approval for being the avid comic nerd.
@MrRishik123
@MrRishik123 6 жыл бұрын
The only sonic series i was exposed to was Sonic underground.
@tabletaussendienst2721
@tabletaussendienst2721 6 жыл бұрын
I want to See sonic underground return
@littlediamond4552
@littlediamond4552 6 жыл бұрын
There are very few Sonic comic videos, and this one just became one of my favorites!
@ciprianolopez7559
@ciprianolopez7559 6 жыл бұрын
Sonic comic better then 90 percent of marvel
@neotwilightmatter
@neotwilightmatter 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Drake, this is the first video I've seen of yours, and I honestly can say it was the first interesting and eye catching video I've seen in a long time. I can tell you love what you do and it really made me happy to watch this. Stay awesome dude 👍
@Kittenfox_55
@Kittenfox_55 6 жыл бұрын
Sonic racing is getting a comic tie in
@JackelKarlos
@JackelKarlos 6 жыл бұрын
Props for wearing that onesie mate. You've definitely got courage in places I don't! :)
@genericstickman5967
@genericstickman5967 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah but their exists no infinite Multiverse destruction feats so it’s just ok and that’s it
@GeneFOX70
@GeneFOX70 6 жыл бұрын
How's that ok?
@SomeAnomalousJumper2398
@SomeAnomalousJumper2398 6 жыл бұрын
@@GeneFOX70, I'm guessing because Archie Sonic is stupidly O.P?
@GeneFOX70
@GeneFOX70 6 жыл бұрын
@@SomeAnomalousJumper2398 Is he not supposed to be?
@alternativefacts6801
@alternativefacts6801 6 жыл бұрын
SOnic sucks I hope so. That was my only worries.
@tntsonic7482
@tntsonic7482 2 жыл бұрын
Id love to see you revisit these especially since issue 50 is right around the corner.
@ginger-ham4800
@ginger-ham4800 6 жыл бұрын
Turning Archie from fun and short gag comics into this over the top gritty trash and allowing Netflix Riverdale and Sabrina to even exist is the worst thing Archie Comics has ever done.
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 6 жыл бұрын
Riverdale is trash, but oh my god, it's amazing trash. I've only seen the first season and I grew from watching it out of hate into genuinely not being able to stop watching until the end of the season.
@StormblessedLizard
@StormblessedLizard 6 жыл бұрын
Welllllll... yeah you’re right but hey people like trashy stuff so woo
@DeeCross
@DeeCross 6 жыл бұрын
@@ComicDrake The best part is that it's not even just amazing trash in one genre. It knows 'suspense' is a very broad term that obviously dips into a ton of other stock plots and tropes and it's gradually worming its way through all of them. So it's striving to be amazing trash in _multiple ways_.
@CarbyGuuGuu
@CarbyGuuGuu 6 жыл бұрын
The classic Archie comics are still around, but a few modernizations were really needed seeing how the Sonic and Mega Man comics were the only things keeping the publisher alive and now they lost the licenses for obvious reasons. The Cosmo reboot is pretty underrated if you ask me, not a lot of people ever talk about the fact that Archie brought back a rather obscure character.
@theolast9727
@theolast9727 6 жыл бұрын
Sabrina actually is pretty good
@jesseking1403
@jesseking1403 6 жыл бұрын
4:30 The shadows made me think Blaze's mouth was open very wide lol
@StormblessedLizard
@StormblessedLizard 6 жыл бұрын
Ur cool
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 6 жыл бұрын
False.
@StormblessedLizard
@StormblessedLizard 6 жыл бұрын
Comic Drake cmon you read comics for a job I’m just a kid here trying to catch up with nightwing
@prophet1390
@prophet1390 6 жыл бұрын
Comic Drake r u a lion 2 me? That would make u a cheetah
@Noodelzmop
@Noodelzmop 6 жыл бұрын
the thumbnail got me HYPED! I love that metal sonic is now the main villian! he was my favorite villian from sonic!
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