The Sons of Horus were a BIG problem

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if not the main reason
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[@mees9704]

“I was there, when Horus killed the emperor” -Garviel Loken

[@Br0oham]

The emperor should have just joined the Imperium of Man

[@morphispiz9746]

but Tarik told this story better

[@emzetkin1100]

Until afterwards became a time quite devoid of laughter.

[@BloodyArchangelus]

The most troll book from abnett.

[@conradlorgar5508]

​@@BloodyArchangelusI mean it gets cleared up in like a paragraph

[@NightLordShadow]

"That's why your primarch dead."

[@hmshood9212]

Dead as hell.

[@memelord1862]

That's why your Warmaster ain't got no arms

[@loganpickells8305]

Dead as ollanius

[@multidimensionalcenturion9863]

Shut up...get out of my battle fortress.

[@Skulgar321]

​@@memelord1862 He can't pray to the ruinous powers.

[@IMASAURUS1996]

The filing cabinet wasn't filled with complaints from the Night Haunter, it was complaints from the other primarchs ABOUT the Night Haunter.

[@bbbbKeJodddd]

"He stinks."---Mortarion

[@IMASAURUS1996]

"My superiority has caused some controversy." - Konrad

[@kalinmir]

Horus was channeling his inner Ea-Nasir

[@krissteel4074]

Imperial Crusade HR, this is Sons of Horus speaking I need to speak about a guy next to my legion Yes, what is he doing? Basically all the stuff I don't like, some night hunter, haunter guy Please hold *10000 years later of elevator music*

[@joaoguilhermeassim]

"He is cringe, almost as Lorgar" - Corvus

[@iam_sriracha2400]

I think they definitely played their role perfectly as THE antagonist in a universe full of antagonists

[@TheBoneZone40k]

yeah, I think they are better as antagonists than anything else

[@akumaking1]

@@TheBoneZone40kwhat about Lorgar and his choir boys?

[@therealistintheboot8822]

​@@akumaking1IMO Lorgar and Erebussy are worse

[@velstadtvonausterlitz2338]

​@@TheBoneZone40kAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ironduke5058]

​@@therealistintheboot8822 Ere what now?

[@wikipediaintellectual7088]

For the record there IS a warband of classic green-tinted "Sons of Horus" still around in 40k canon. They're called the True Sons and they maintain loyalty to Horus instead of Abbadon. Also Lucius beat Garviel pretty soundly in their rematch.

[@hansgruber3064]

My Chaos Marines are a True Sons warband, I just love that there’s a group of Sons of Horus that told Abbadon to jog on when he was forming the Black legion.

[@wikipediaintellectual7088]

@@hansgruber3064 Same, although I think ya boy Huron Blackheart is probably the biggest dunk on everything associated with Abaddon. Moreso even than Sigismund, Vashtorr and Eldrad.

[@totalnerd5674]

I wonder, and I expect this to be considered a bad idea, but what if a cult formed from the remnants of the Sons of Horus to try and give rise to a warp entity that was a sort of twisted version of Horus, that was created by being a sort of "tear in the warp" when the Emperor deleted him? Like, it isn't the real Horus, but a sort of shadow of him?

[@chromicm6686]

​@@wikipediaintellectual7088 I wish they had actualy put in as much effort into Horus and his legions fall that they did for Huron. You can agree with almost every move he made getting shat on by the imperium. I'd have prefered skirmishes like Prospero to start between individual legions that Horus tries to step in to stop, but only ends up galvanising the emergent "loyalists" and "traitor'" sides more. Perhaps Horus steps in to save a peaceful Alien civilisation that tried to ally with him, and is forced to kill imperial army or Space wolves to do so, standing up for the newly conqured worlds with a general confusion of command between the imperium, since he is the warmaster, the emperors apointed ruler, yet the wolves and administratum are under orders from the Siglite, the emperors right hand. All the while the word bearers twist this further, provoking more confrontations and finaly as things realy go to hell Erebus turns Horus and begins instigating chaos corruption through the seperatist side, till eventualy, after several assasination attempts and the begining of fullscale war the seperatists decide to purge their ranks in Istvaan of all those unwilling to oppose the emperors vision.

[@wikipediaintellectual7088]

@@chromicm6686 Could it have been done better? Sure. Personally I think the timing for chaotic corruption was way off. It was completely unecssary to have not only the Horus' fall but the galaxy spanning war fought by demigods occur over such a short period of time. It has taken significantly longer for the Horus Hersesy books to come out than it took for the Horus Heresy to end. I think your ideas could've addressed that by making things more gradual. With that exception, though, I really, really like the first three horus heresy novels. They even managed to make Abaddon a compelling character.

[@musicalDrebin]

i think what made the Sons of Horus cool was that they were noble originally, despite their background. they enjoyed warfare like any astartes, but they were never cruel or blood thirsty. never relishing in the slaughter, but as much flak some people give horus for turning so quickly i think the books did a good job of showing how just a few cracks, and some change in perspective could turn this specific legion from unlikely super stars of the imperium, to the arch traitors, killing anyone who dared defied them and their warmaster

[@BloodyArchangelus]

@@alsonallu8642 In early books Primarchs have almost mind-control of own sons. dont think about them serious. Early heresy is outdated meme.

[@angelobrewster6293]

The Flesh Terrors did find a loyalist Luna Wolf in Stasis on a space hulk When they told him what his Primarch Horus and his brothers did back in the Horus heresy, he was pissed and stole one of the Flesh Terrors ships and went to find his Triator brothers.

[@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar]

"THEY DID WHAT?" "yeahh...." "IM GONNA GO KILL THOSE FUCKIN BASTARDS"

[@henrypaleveda7760]

I want to see the end result of this, weather it's some black legion who talk about a spook or if it's him finding tactical information or confronting the true sons.

[@Vincent_A.]

@@henrypaleveda7760same

[@Alpharius_Grillmaster]

The worst part is Horus was one of the nicer and compassionate primarchs. Reading the first book in the series made me fall in love with him and the wolves. Love my baby boy loken

[@dennisnordlund902]

Are you a homosexual?

[@dennisnordlund902]

Are you a homosexual?

[@Poseidon-cw7bp]

​@@dennisnordlund902literally

[@Alpharius_Grillmaster]

@@dennisnordlund902 what? No, I love their characters in the first book

[@vicstanfieldshire7754]

#HENRYCAVILLASGARVIELLOKEN

[@nicholasgucwa2065]

You know who else hate Erebus, and may have beat him nearly to death. Kharn. You know what legion Kharn came from. WORLDEATERS

[@malcire]

Yeah. He didn't appreciate Erebus killing his buddy.

[@NapGod]

"Get up."

[@Sephiroth36977]

*BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!* *SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!*

[@IMASAURUS1996]

Kharn was going to kill him if he didn't have plot armor.

[@jonathanb.5774]

Hey there are actually remenants of the sons of horus legion that still identify as that legion they are called the True Sons and also there is a lot more to the 16th Legion than their favorite tactic of killing the enemys leaders. The problem is no one talks about them!

[@nostear8261]

It’s sad but I thinks they are only in their so people can play their 30k army in 40k

[@Wanten-the-stormtrooper]

There's others, too, like the Wolves of Horus! There _were_ also the Sons of the Eye until Drecarth got killed...

[@BigBarry67]

Yeah it's really annoying how underrepresented they are. Especially as I think I may be one of the extremely few people who painted their generic CSM as True Sons

[@Wanten-the-stormtrooper]

@@BigBarry67 I did that too! Or at least painted them as so e form of Sons of Horus, complete with Justaerin and a FW contemptor!

[@nostear8261]

@@BigBarry67 what’s the typical reaction? I love the sons of Horus aesthetic but more a Night Lords fan. I was thinking of starting either a new Necron, Tau, or Chaos army

[@darkjewelgm5884]

Targaddon is 40k's best boy. The real hero. In my headcannon he joked his way out of the horus heresy and we all kived happily ever after.

[@vicstanfieldshire7754]

Why do you think Little Horus fought Tarik instead of Garviel? I keep thinking about, like size for size Tarik is way bigger, more Abaddons size? I think it’s because Ezekiel knew that if Little Horus went against Loken, that Loken MAY have convinced him to stop. Because the scene where LH kills Tarik, it’s said that Loken could see regret/hesitation in his eyes.

[@Qver-gd9bg]

@@vicstanfieldshire7754I still think little Horus should have been the one to lower the vengeful spirit’s gellar fields, not horus

[@vicstanfieldshire7754]

@@Qver-gd9bg that would have blown my mind lol

[@Thorgrax]

Horace Lubricate was too bald for the universe to handle.

[@Tenvir]

Lubricate 🤣😅

[@DaRollinThunder]

100% agree. Garviel is quite literally the best character in all of the lore. He was never a Sons of Horus. He was and remains a Luna Wolf, a true son of Cthonia, and a loyal servant the The Emperor of Mankind, beloved by all.

[@pedropierre9594]

I agree, Loken id a prodigy with unbreakable morals like the Batman, its hard to dislike a dude like that

[@henrypaleveda7760]

there's so many hidden gems in the lore but there's so much lore to go through. Dantioch is my own go to.

[@DaRollinThunder]

@henrypaleveda7760 honestly any loyalist from traitor legions are always the best characters. Look at Ancient Rylanor

[@martianscienceenthusiast]

Quick correction, the interex actually supassed the imperium of man in technological prowess. They had more advanced, far more manuverable power armor that anyone could wear without issue, bows that shot arrows of energy that could instantly kill space marines, and IIRC; they also had functioning men of iron that didnt betray them, and were aware of the dangers of chaos.

[@gagetaylor54]

I won’t lie, I genuinely LOVE the Sons of Horus, and plan on getting and painting a SoH army for 30k and a True Sons army for 40k. From their color scheme, which idk why but the gold and dark green with the contrast of big red Eyes of Horus just looks so baller to me, to the whole “suped up, disciplined ganger” aesthetic they have, kinda similar to the NL with their culture being heavily influenced by Nostroman gang culture. In fact, when it comes to their aesthetic, like many other legions have their own “aesthetics” (WS=Mongols, DA=Classical Knightly Orders, IF=US Marines and Teutonic Knights in a blender), the SoH have a blend of that ganger culture and the Roman Kingdom. Where as Bobby G and the Blue Crew are more akin to Late Republic/Imperial Rome, SoH feels like the early Roman Kingdom; a gaggle of tough as nails marauders that can beat people around because of their discipline, while not sacrificing their savagery

[@PexDoombringer]

Didn't know that Early Roman aesthetic influence, fella. Any artwork or references where I can find some sources of that Roman vibe into the SoH? I love the concept you pointed out there

[@EmonWBKstudios]

I like the Black Legion terminators. My all-time favorite terminators, with their little fur patches, their colorful skull ornaments, and those cool tusks. There should be a T'au battle suit with mammoth tusks and razor claws, that'd be sick. Also, when T'au?

[@TheAnon03]

Horus actually has a way back, when the Emperor killed his soul his soul wasn't actually all there, part of it is still undergoing to trials of the chaos gods iirc.

[@Kor-Phaeron]

Yea, but most of the people never read the actual books and just rely on a person, that listened to a another person and this person just read the wiki

[@DirtyMardi]

⁠@@Kor-Phaeronaccuracy? In my Warhammer? Seriously though, people like parroting memes. Many youtubers do this.

[@mr.raider7865]

Tbf can you blame people not wanting to read/listen to like 60 books when 3/4 are at best not really important and don't really contain anything super necessary and at worst a waste of time but a neat story if you are lucky? Additionally you have to hope that GW remember this tid bit and it's not "ret-conned".

[@kharn4770]

pretty sure Maloghurst sorted that out in slaves to darkness

[@Kor-Phaeron]

@@kharn4770 kinda, but what he is referring to something that happens later on. I don't want to spoil you bro

[@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar]

They REALLY should've got Guilliman to be the Warmaster. He feels like someone who would be calm enough to deal with infinite paperwork and complaints.

[@1simo93521]

It does sound like horus was promoted beyond his abilities and had a nervous breakdown.

[@georgeaird4637]

Guilliman wasn’t universally respected and was seen as one of the ‘runt’ primarchs during the Great Crusade. I think Sanguinius would’ve been the better pick.

[@HandsomeLongshanks]

Man, i can't wait for your channel to blow up in the 40k community. Your short but accurate info dumps are perfect for new people coming in and vets just wanting to listen to someone elses opinion on their hobby. Keep it up

[@vicstanfieldshire7754]

HERE HERE!!

[@vicstanfieldshire7754]

#HENRYCAVILLASGARVIELLOKEN

[@foolduke2810]

Theres like two to three SoH Warbands with one of them emulating the Luna Wolves and another making wood statues of Horus to burn(in a venerating way)

[@GrimDarkHalfOff]

only 3 more to go till Corvus baby!

[@hazardbastard9422]

When you get too abaddon please don’t just roast him please. I genuinely do like his backstory and motives and I just hope you do him even a fraction upon a fraction of him justice. (Plus his model is goated)

[@PrinceOfChange]

Incompetence wears terminator armor.

[@ronramen5827]

His model can’t be that great when he’s got no arms

[@vicstanfieldshire7754]

It can also can FULL SPRINT in Terminator Armor… that’s some competent incompetence.

[@vicstanfieldshire7754]

I really liked early Ezekiel, so I’m hoping he gets some points for playing Horus like a fiddle.

[@BloodyArchangelus]

Abaddon was killed by Sigizmund. Only living corpse remained as Horus once was

[@BESTIAL-CRUCIFIER]

"Magic Poop Knife" made me exhale through my nose

[@hankvirus9305]

Imperial taxes are heavy and was the most common complaint that Horus got every day. The great crusade was expensive and the cost was paid most heavily by ones who resisted the Imperium. Arguably if the taxes were lower the Horus Heresy wouldn't have happened.

[@NameName2.0]

That "I'm Arthur" is literally why I come here.

[@TheBoneZone40k]

comically enough, half the people who show up absolutely hate it and the other half think it's iconic

[@NameName2.0]

@@TheBoneZone40k WHAT!? Dude I LOVE it! It's SO ICONIC! "Hi! I'm Arthur..." It's so chill and friendly!

[@ashergregory2013]

I love it too! It's different & charismatic

[@TheEmperorsChampion964]

Garviel Loken is hands down the best, as much as I love Sigismund Garviel is better. If Loken had his own chapter they'd probably be my favorite, since he doesn't I have to go with Sigismund and the black templars

[@pedropierre9594]

Im still waiting for Loken to show up in current lore, the Lions soul was trapped in the warp, when Loken stepped thru the portal, who knows he might come out now with the rift open

[@Andernol]

I play Sons of Horus PURELY because they have the coolest fucking armor color. If there was an Orange legion I would paint that in a heartbeat, but the muted seafoam green of the SoH is fantastic, and then you highlight it with teal and do a dark wash, it comes out looking fantastic.

[@nostear8261]

Some parts still exist like the True Sons but they are extremely small

[@TheRemembrancer]

Let Horus’ treacherous husk forever be damned to torment and cruelty at the hands of his malevolent benefactors! *spits on Worldbreaker

[@SRTifiable]

In my head, Cawl created a Primaris group as a successor to the Dark Angels who wear all white and may have accidentally used Sixteenth Legion stock. Oopsie whoopsie. And concur. Gabriel Loken is my favorite.

[@vicstanfieldshire7754]

#HENRYCAVILLASGARVIELLOKEN

[@SRTifiable]

@@vicstanfieldshire7754 I’m convinced!

[@vicstanfieldshire7754]

@@SRTifiable it would be SO perfect and that character covers SO much. First Primarch discovered by Big E; the pacification of Luna, unification wars, Murder, 63-19, ALL the Remembrancer shit, The Lodges, Davin, Mourneval, Istvaan 3, Then him going batshit crazy as Cerberus, recruited by Garro as a Knight Errant… it goes on and on…

[@vicstanfieldshire7754]

@@SRTifiable and we already know Cavill can rock long light hair like a MFr

[@SRTifiable]

@@vicstanfieldshire7754 *insert Geralt growling here* It really would be the perfect way to kick things off.

[@jamesthelamenter5464]

"He turned us into Killers !!!" - Unknown SoH legionnaire

[@VirgilAspect]

During that vision where he saw the Emperor as a god he also saw statues of only 9 of the 18 Primarchs, and then got told that the Emperor had the other 9 erased from the history books

[@vicstanfieldshire7754]

Also the story about how they earned their original name was badass.

[@OutrageousOnPurpose]

No wonders Abaddon changed the name of the legion after the heresy, even the legionaires knew how awfull it was to be related to the sons of horus x)

[@DeuxExNoir]

Lol. *The Emperor replied. Any human emotion was bereft of his tone.* Lmao.

[@bbbbKeJodddd]

To quote: "THAT MAN HAS A HERESY NAMED AFTER HIM!"

[@stephenwood6663]

Regarding recruiting gangers for the Sons of Horus: the Space Wolves were recruited from viking raiders, and Alpharius and his initial handful of followers were space pirates, so it's not like this kind of thing is exactly unprecedented in the Imperial military. It even works out okay quite a lot of the time: the Armageddon and Necromundan regiments of the Imperial Guard recruit from hive gangers, and they both have a highly-respected history of service.

[@capsizemoonz2251]

HORUS HORUS HORUS HORUS LETS FUCKING GO

[@bradrankin844]

I love the way you explain all this lore! It really makes it so much easier for me to understand!!👍👍👍👍😉

[@wolfgangcxliii7182]

So close to the 18th Legion, VULKAN LIVES 🔥🔥🔥

[@brotherbob1]

Yes brother VULKAN LIVES!!!!🔥🔥🔥

[@excellentmanoftaste2626]

I’ve got plans to make a successor chapter of them that have gone semi renegade in the Imperium Nihilus and the more lore i have of them the better so thanks mr Arthur guy

[@PeachyPixel28]

"...did the F*cky Wucky" It's like Chaucer is in the room with us.

[@yopoxikeweapescai9066]

Ah yes, the "im the horus heresy" of the most warhammering forty thousand baldy

[@johnbrennan9617]

I just started reading the Horus Heresy.... and yeah.... F Erebus!

[@TheBoneZone40k]

He is kind of the root cause of everything

[@malcire]

There's a guy who does angry rant videos about WH40k. And to paraphrase "if you have Lorgar, KorPharon, and Erebus tied up and a gun with 2 bullets; shoot Erebus with both and then beat his corpse with the gun until it breaks".

[@drekbleh7081]

5:56 I thought you were gonna say "the night haunter's war crimes"

[@beefyblom]

he'd need more than a filing cabinet to keep track of *those*

[@theophiledumont3291]

I am making a sons of horus 40k army they use black legion rules but are painted sons of horus style and have the reavers squads and justaerin. And as you said violence in a short ammount of time is a great way to describe the sons of horus

[@fabioeliasreisritter8827]

3:16 Never forget the only lovable character there: Tarik mustache Torgaddon

[@TheBoneZone40k]

pour one out for the real one

[@ace_the_race9340]

Horus: Rapidly loses his hair when put in charge of a stable galaxy Guilliman: Soloing a galaxy filled to the brim with death and war.

[@lossmcginnis2139]

That background picture by nemris is actually tied to the Roboutian Heresy as in they are ALL loyalists in that scenario

[@conradlorgar5508]

If only horus hadnt turned because some random entities had shown him a dubious vision while his brother was standing there telling him it was a trick but somehow said "duh i know" then woke up like "so anyway i joined them"

[@wiggy5209]

The Horus heresy spans well over 60 books ...the siege of terra adds more to that count and the scouring is what happens when his forces lose and about their retreat into the warp. Then there are the other books and novellas that are to do with it ...think more around 100 ...and you're closer

[@scpwatcher8289]

Every time I think of Magnus finding Horse and erbus in the warp all I can think about is that breaking bad meme where Walter is yelling at hank from the car

[@scarletfatefan8793]

Erebus may have lit the match but the primarchs were a powder keg waiting to explode. Lorgar would have done the heresy if Horus hadn’t fallen

[@andreivoicu7162]

I can see the advantages of the 16th and the signs of what they will become. On one side gangs are very similar to armies. They have a strict hierarchy, the people who make up it's members see each other as brethren of a sort and they work towards a common goal involving violence. Unlike military organizations though, gangs see themselves and their leader as the endpoint. Whatever the leader wants to do the gang do too, as long as it serves the gang's interests. After Horus took command of the legion they were no longer servants of humanity, they were Sons of Horus.

[@JohnnyMayHymn]

If you want 40k Sons of Horus you're probably looking for Thrice-Cursed Traitors: the True Sons, the Wolves of Horus or the Sons of the Eye (could hypothetically regroup and escape from the Black Legion's ranks). The Chosen of Heiros left Black Legion for some reason, not sure what's going on with them. I like warbands like this because it's easy to follow what's known and fill in whatever you want with the rest. You want them to run around with Vashtorr? to embrace Khorne and/or Tzeentch but they reject Slaanesh and Nurgle? maybe you don't like Abaddon, so your Abaddon is actually a fake, (an ancient Alpha Legion Praetor) running around uniting Thrice-Cursed stragglers and using them for cryptic schemes (and maybe even your "Abaddon" model is sporting the old green as a ploy to recruit them).

[@midgetydeath]

Another way of looking at it is that one of the strongest Primarchs was so horrified by the life of the average person in the 40K Imperium that it drove him insane. Now _THAT_ is fucking Grimdark.

[@xenon3990]

Best theory is still that Sanguinius fell to the black rage, completely annihilated Horus and then when big E found him, he attacked him causing big e to hold back and get wounded before mercy killing Hawk boi.

[@gravebird398]

That's my favorite theory and I'm gonna stick with it anyways. Blackraged so hard even future sons keep tripping on it. And adds extra layer of big sad too.

[@xenon3990]

@@gravebird398 exactly. Tbh if they’d pull that in the end and the Death part 2 I’d flip my shit, but I’d completely roll with the retcon since it is so like the imperium to turn the most pivotal event in its history into propaganda

[@pedropierre9594]

“ c’mon Loken, relax “ - Sons of Horus as they perform things the Emperor clearly prohibits in their cabal 😂

[@Tonba1]

To put into perspective how big of a fuck up they were, there wouldnt be 40k without them or at the very least, it wouldnt be grimdark

[@TheFirstVonGunther]

You ever think of how Horus is kinda like Sigmar when he got stabbed by his buddy and ended up in a weird dream? But Sigmar's dad shows up and is like "Hey, man. Itll be cool. Fight Chaos". No dad comes to save Horus.... I think.... Its been like 20 years since I read the first Horus Heresy books.

[@charliecole4430]

Ah yes the backstory chaos space marines

[@Lazarus1095]

I would love to see a corrupted-but-pre-Istvann Massacre Sons of Horus detachment that got lost in the Warp emerge into realspace in Imperium Nihilus and try to bluff their way into Dante's presence without knowing anything about what has happened in the past 10,000 years.

[@brotherbob1]

The salamanders are very nice. You should make a video on them.

[@vyanesh6487]

12:19 There is actually one! A splinter of the Black Legion made up of members with Horus’s geneseed. They’re called The True Sons and people have made some pretty radical paint jobs for them.

[@MrVlad12340]

Imho after reading the Horus Heresy it seems like most of what happened was on traitor Primarchs/their seconds/Erebus and now they blame the loyalists despite being directly responsible for the shitty state Imperium is in and also perpetuating the war with Imperium hence damning and destroying humanity further.

[@VestedUTuber]

Horus is so dead he ended up in the Retconnian without actually being retconned out of the lore.

[@randyruger9063]

Solid vid today! Can't wait for the Abaddon vid!

[@robertkb64]

I’d started writing that you are just wrong, it’s all Erebus fault. And then I heard you speak my mantra, “Fuck Erebus.”

[@juuso757]

Oh sweet, nice to see some of my art (0:04)

[@TheBoneZone40k]

Oh shit? Really?

[@juuso757]

@@TheBoneZone40k Yep, some of my old loyalist Sons of Horus I made for Roboutian Heresy. Can be found in DeviantArt under Nemris

[@midgetydeath]

Emperor: "Hmmm, maybe I should make their minds and therefore souls work like mine to make them the anti-thesis of Chaos and therefore utterly immune to it, since I'm making them and their legions specifically to destroy Chaos...Naaaah. What's the worst that could happen?"

[@SonofNostramo]

5:44 bro that shit machete joke had me wheezing! I’ve never heard a more accurate description of it before 😂

[@Channel-23s]

The fall is always juicy especially after all that ego and pride only a fool would trust Erebus same with Horus being convinced by a false vision

[@_NutcasE_]

well its getting more nuanced now. With the event in the books showing that Horus did know that the vision wasnt real but still choosing to rebel anyway, and now with the lastest book showing that horus is not losing control to corruption and is instead in complete control and about to elevate into the 5th chaos god.

[@Darknessblade4me]

​@@_NutcasE_did Aaron demski wrote it? Cause it sure sounds like him and his hate boner for the imperium

[@Channel-23s]

@@_NutcasE_ that’s both cool and weird that he knows he’s being lied to by Erebus and daemons and still chooses to betray his father and his brothers not until his death does he cry and regret it which is well foolish but hey hindsight is 20/20

[@Channel-23s]

@@alsonallu8642 just seems strange he was going 100% the direction of Chaos and thinking his direction would be better then with his brothers and Father guess he thought he was better or would’ve been a greater god or leader but against the 4 Chaos gods that’s a long shot

[@_NutcasE_]

@@Channel-23s well the decision makes alot lot more sense in the HH novel end and death as he is actually himself trying to ascend to godhood while blaming Emperor of the feat.

[@henrypaleveda7760]

2:18 The Imperial Fists get theri recruits from many places, including NECROMUNDA specifically looking for gangers.

[@midgetydeath]

We have a reason for Horus turning traitor, Chaotic infestation while unaware of how to defend himself combined with Chaos showing up a vision out of context. However, we don't have a reason for his legion joining his rebellion. We don't even really have that for the Emperor's Children, either. We really only have a reason for Perturabo and the Iron Warriors...um...I mean, there's the Night Lords and all but they didn't so much "rebel" as went AWOL. There's also the Word Bearers, they had a good reason as they felt betrayed and abandoned by their god and all their beliefs and view of the world smashed into their faces by him personally. But, yeah, the Sons of Horus didn't really have a motive beyond "Daddy said so". Same for the Death Guard and really the vast majority of Traitor Legions.

[@Twinsidedsoldier]

That whole intro was oddly specific. 😅

[@tomgeytenbeek2207]

Oh, I’m liking THIS channel already, absolutely putting notification on for this :)

[@lepershing1902]

Oooh, nice video dude!

[@The_Rage_Kage]

"Horus is a massive failure." -Lion 'El Johnson

[@dragonofdragons1720]

there is a warband called The Sons of the Lupercal that use the old legion sea green armor.

[@RobTunes]

9:37 - an upbeat intermission

[@SeanCrosser]

"Hey man, Horus, dude, we're just asking questions. Really think about it, what DO you know about your father, the Emperor?"

[@Dyno2999]

Good intro 10/10

[@VirgilAspect]

You won't see an Sons of Horus or Luna Wolf warband in 40K because Abaddon hunted them all down

[@havoc1134]

Says “Holy terror” at 6:10. That’s what happens when the Night Haunter is on the brain.

[@joanneworrell5936]

This is informative but so damn funny. Think I will have to watch the rest.

[@ACCGOO9012]

Horus really showed one of the most human side during the Interex incident, too much pressure and hope had put on his shoulder by others and also himself, and it only took one bad day, after all even primarchs can’t part their human nature.

[@shrekdaddyyo9632]

lol imagine getting stabbed with a magic poop knife and deciding to join the guys who stabbed you

[@hercules2342]

always make me happy when you drop a video. something about your voice is just so relaxing for some reason. keep up the goo work m8 :D

[@timenavigator9643]

I remain a Luna Wolf…

[@ZillyWhale]

4 more episodes until the cluster fuck that is the 20th legion!

[@SaturmornCarvilli]

I like the Sons of Horus. So much so, I have both a Black Legion (my 1st 40k army) and Sons of Horus army. It's good to be first among traitors, heel of heels and, with no uncertainty, the bad guys.

[@AdoringAdmirer]

I think the barbaric might and lust for conquest, strength, domination and power of the sons of horus is a very cool and powerful theme. They are the epitome of the warrior-king that fell from grace.

[@thekurgan14]

I feel you really undersold how badly magnus fucked up in horus vision. Proved it was all a trap, how errebus was involved and was in the vision, had it all dead to rights, and horus still sided with chaos. Leaving either of 2 conclusions, magis was such a fuck up even with a clean dunk was failed just by being magnus or once horus was stabbed who he was had been completely corrupted and the Warmaster of chaos had taken over.

[@animeturnMMD]

7:28 I would dare to say that they were more advanced than the imperium, however they don't had the numbers to back up their technological advantages.

[@vicstanfieldshire7754]

“YOU DARE RETURN TO ME IN FAILURE!?!?!”

[@BarelyDecentProduction]

I'm glad I chose these guys as my loyalist homebrew

[@midgetydeath]

The Interrex weren't at war with the Sons of Horus, it was more a brief firefight followed by the Interrex kinda realizing they had overreacted and the Sons of Horus withdrawing. I think he had intended to return and try diplomacy again later. After he turned to Chaos, a Chaos fleet wiped out the Interrex.

[@winningjubbly9712]

"Ooh, I do love a good knee!" -- Danny Devito, yesterday.

[@winningjubbly9712]

The Emperor diddled his widdle with Horus.

[@ethangriffin3935]

I swear to god with these intros you can hear the smile in this man's voice. Either that or he's high out of his mind.