The Sony Rx10IV: Still Worth It?

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@majormegapix 10 ай бұрын

Enjoyed your presentation. I don't need to tell you how good the RX10 is. I've been a hobbyist photographer for 20 years now working my way up to Canon full frame and lenses. I got tired of lugging them around. 4 years ago, I traded/sold off my equipment and purchased the RX10 IV and never looked back. The results from the camera are just fantastic and combined with the zoom range and 4K video, I think it's an unbeatable combination. I now exclusively use the RX10 and DJI Action 3 for all my travel videos for KZbin and could not be happier.

@wtfstop 10 ай бұрын

I have seriously considered the same thing all this gear is heavy and is starting to take the fun out of it.

@daveboyers4549 10 ай бұрын

I've subscribed to DPReview for years, and see the constant flow of new cameras, but nothing has tempted me since getting the RX several years ago. While battery life and low light shooting are sometimes challenging, it's a very steady performer as long as it is used correctly. Very nice review and worthy samples. Thank you.

@wtfstop 10 ай бұрын

Thank you. I am gonna purchase these cameras one for myself and one for my under 16 year old classes so they all have the same set up will make my life a lot easier

@nervocalm 6 ай бұрын

Wow! Amazing pictures... If you don't say anything and mix them up with some pictures taken with an "advanced" full frame cameras, I'm sure most of us couldn't tell which is which. I think we all are here for the same, tired to carry bags with gear and changing lenses, most of all when we are traveling trying to relax. We all want to know how much quality have to "sacrifice" for more freedom, and after seeing your pictures I think the compromise is very acceptable! I have to get one of those. Incredible that an almost 7 year old camera still is king in the bridge category. Shame that Sony discontinued this branch. I can only imagine what would a RX10MV could bring us today seeing how amazing its predecessor still is. Thanks for sharing!

@wtfstop 6 ай бұрын

Thank you. That’s not a bad Igea for a video. I know I wish they would come out with a new one but that would kill the mirrorless dark sales I am sure.

@MrBillkaz 7 ай бұрын

I have had tons of fun doing IR work with it … you once you get the custom white balance down it can be really fun

@wtfstop 7 ай бұрын

Nice That is something i have wanted to explore.

@djspecialpaul 5 ай бұрын

Nice review - I use my RX10 IV (2 of them) alot special when I am on expeditions/offshore sailing :) - compact and very good. The second RX10 IV I use this mostly on my DJI Rs3 Pro Gimbal and works fine.

@wtfstop 5 ай бұрын

When using on the gimbal are you able to zoom as well?

@djspecialpaul 5 ай бұрын

@@wtfstop With the righ cable, yes.

@wtfstop 5 ай бұрын

@@djspecialpaul I am gonna have to give it a try

@djspecialpaul 5 ай бұрын

@@wtfstop Ok :)

@tomsviewphotographyadventu2514 6 ай бұрын

Hi Angie. Well.. either that DXO does miracles, or my RX10iv has had issues from day 1 with noise and poor colour rendition. I originally purchased it a few years back to replace my Nikon D810 and the heavy lenses that I had to carry around. I found the video performance to be pretty good. The photo performance for landscapes left me with images i had to really push in post-processing to get anything I was remotely happy with. Your results in this video are simply amazing!

@wtfstop 6 ай бұрын

Dxo is amazing checkout my website you can try it for 30’days free with my Link.

@smooth111012 4 ай бұрын

Great images. That dove looks so beautiful

@wtfstop 4 ай бұрын

Thank you

@rreichar1 9 ай бұрын

Once video! I do really regret selling my RX10 IV 2 or 3 years ago. I am primarily a bird photographer and had a lot of good times with the Sony. When ILC cameras with subject detection showed up I went to one of those and haven’t looked back. Now if Sony were to do an RX10 V with subject detection I would probably buy two of them. I wish I had kept mine for travel photography. The way it is now I end up taking a body and 3 lenses just to match the focal length of the Sony. I really miss that camera.

@wtfstop 9 ай бұрын

Yes it is an amazing little camera and with a updated focus system it would be off the charts!! that is probably why they haven't done it yet might hurt the Mirrorless DSLR sales. Hope they do update it though I would have one in my bag!!

@MrBillkaz 7 ай бұрын

I’m on my 4th ..

@wtfstop 7 ай бұрын

I really wish they would come out with a new version I would buy one or two traveling with all this gear is tough

@barryinny 4 ай бұрын

@wtfstop I've researched the heck out of cameras over the last month for an upcoming trip next July to Svalbard. Norway (arctic expedition cruise). Honestly, I’ve spent over 100 hours reviewing YT videos on everything out there… I don't own any "proper" camera right now. I just bought and returned the Nikon Z8 (way too complicated and with the lenses that I'd need to cover the focal lengths I’d need will set me back $6,500). I also bought and returned the Sony A6700 which seemed like a kid's toy in my hands. I'm now thinking that this camera may fit the bill. I’m convinced that to get a good camera that can give you this range of focal length whether FF, APS-C or 4/3 including “decent” tracking AF, shutter speeds > 10fps, at least 20MP and 4K30 - you’re going to spend around $1800-$2000 for the body alone. The used market for a camera in exc. condition doesn’t save you much. Add the minimum 2 lenses you’ll need (24-120) and (200-600) that will add an additional $2,500. In for $4,500. This camera checks all the boxes. My biggest concern was low light capability and reduced bokeh. You showed some nice shots at low light. TY. I’m a retired marketing exec and I believe the reason they will NEVER upgrade this model is that it will blow away all the mirrorless models and lens combos that they are making a ton of dough on - other than for prof/semi prof usage. When this model was released the post editing software was just coming of age. The top complaints when reviewed (back in 2018) was noise in low light situations, poor bokeh control and reduced sharpness at long focal. I think the proliferation of software like Topaz Denoise, Adobe LR and/or Luminar Neo takes care of these concerns handily. If they just upgraded the chip to increase buffer (then add CFexpress) and AF subject detection and left everything else as is - there’d be NO reason for any casual user, hobbyist or enthusiast to buy anything else. At $2000 it would literally own the market… IMHO we’ll never see a RX-10 V. Never.

@robhemsley9181 7 ай бұрын

Fabulous video - THANKYOU I have had a RX10 for 1 year - ITS AMAZING FOR BIRDING if you want to carry a scope and binoculars - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

@wtfstop 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching yes Bino’s are needed.

@alanroberts1676 Жыл бұрын

I too have the Sony rx10 - great all round camera and you don't have to carry around multiple lenses.

@wtfstop Жыл бұрын

Very true!!

@harijack3445 7 ай бұрын

Wow nice stills. Keep it up mam. Love from India.

@wtfstop 7 ай бұрын

Thank you

@palootto4021 10 ай бұрын

Awesome presentation!

@wtfstop 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for your kind words! I really appreciate your support.

@kenmooreski 5 ай бұрын

I've read a lot lately about how good Neo's RAW Develop tool is, especially as the first step in Post. Do you still feel that the Dx Pure RAW 3 (and saving the output as a TIF) the best way to begin editing in Neo? (I have the RX 10 iv) and love it.

@wtfstop 5 ай бұрын

If there is noticeable noise in the image, I would say yes run it through DXO first then export to Luminar Neo do you use Lightroom at all?

@wtfstop 5 ай бұрын

I use a combination of Lightroom topaz photo AI DXO pure raw and Neo. It just all depends on the image is where I start.

@gladysvanschaijk4647 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. Im using a canon r6ii and r6 with high quality lenses for my work. But now i want a camera i can travel with and dont hurt my Back. Is this good for travling? And are the quality of the pictures good? Maybe someone can sent me a 600mm file so i can check it out 😅 im in the usa next month there i can buy one....

@wtfstop 3 ай бұрын

@@gladysvanschaijk4647 sure send me a email and I would be happy to send you some samples Un edited I can also send you a link to B&H to buy one

@TimHollingworth 7 ай бұрын

This camera has a timed switch off and it automatically retreacts the lens. Unfortunately the lens caught the camera bag and it sounds like the gearing jumped some teeth. Now the lens won't fully extend. Is this easily fixable, please anyone?

@wtfstop 7 ай бұрын

I would reach out to Sony they have a multiple service centers in the us

@doctornebula 8 ай бұрын

Fantastic camera, and it is on sale now at Abes of Maine for $1195.

@wtfstop 8 ай бұрын

Awesome

@MrBillkaz 7 ай бұрын

Got one of off Mpb for 960

@wtfstop 7 ай бұрын

Thats a great deal @@MrBillkaz

@barryinny 4 ай бұрын

Gray market - no USA warrantee - if that doesn't bother you, you might as well get used...See this from Abes: "Brand New Factory Fresh Import Model" - so you'll have to get their extra warrantee to be safe (+$299)...PS: no longer on sale as of 7/7.

@EvanKenobi 4 ай бұрын

0:43 no, it is not 600 mm at f4, it is 600 mm at f10,8 (FF equiv) or 220 mm at f4. You can not apply crop factor multiplier selectively to only one side of equasion, maths doesn't work like that.

@wtfstop 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for your input! I understand your point about the crop factor and its effect on both the focal length and aperture. To clarify, the Sony RX10 IV has an 8.8-220mm f/2.4-4 lens on a 1-inch sensor, which gives it a field of view equivalent to a 24-600mm lens on a full-frame sensor. However, the depth of field and light-gathering ability remain those of the f/2.4-4 lens. When considering the crop factor (2.7x for a 1-inch sensor), you need to adjust for depth of field and field of view. For instance, at 220mm and f/4, the effective focal length is 600mm (full-frame equivalent), but the depth of field would be similar to that of a 600mm lens at approximately f/10.8 on a full-frame camera. The light-gathering ability remains f/4. The only time both are effected is when you add a teleconverter to it the you add 1.4 or 2.0 to both side.

@smooth111012 4 ай бұрын

4000 iso. I find anything above iso 250 becomes noisy. Did you use any de noise software

@wtfstop 4 ай бұрын

@@smooth111012 yes I used dxo pure raw 3 as stated in video I even when through how to use dxo pure raw

@smooth111012 4 ай бұрын

@@wtfstop yes I noticed as I watched more of the video Is that software available on iPad do you know?

@wtfstop 4 ай бұрын

@@smooth111012 not that I know of but Luminar Neo is

@wtfstop 3 ай бұрын

@@smooth111012 No but Luminar Neo is and thier denoise is pretty good as well.

@billr6983 7 ай бұрын

The RX10iv is TOO good. That's why Sony stopped developing them. You will never see a V,. Why? Because the money is in the lens sales and this camera potentially cannibalizes low and mid range interchangeable Sony cameras and most importatantly LENSES that cover the range this camera covers.

@wtfstop 7 ай бұрын

Oh ya totally agree

@barryinny 4 ай бұрын

SPOT on. You nailed it. IMHO if they were smart marketers with just a few minor tweaks they'd own the market for anyone other than pro/semi pro. Their unit sales would totally over shadow lost lens sales. There's no competition - they'd steal all the "consumer" sales from EVERY other manufacturer - not just their own...

@markgillum5709 3 ай бұрын

@@billr6983 Totally agree with you. As a form factor, the camera companies cannot make as much with this form as with interchangeable lenses and camera bodies.

@markgillum5709 3 ай бұрын

@@barryinnyThat's my thinking as well. By being a major player if not owning the space, there would be so much market space here for SONY. That would leave the higher end cameras more strictly for professional use. As is, it appears SONY (as well as the others) are literally FORCING us to have to go with the interchangeable lenses and higher end cameras if we are to own cameras at all. I think this will backfire and most average consumers and hobbyists will go with the bridge cameras and cellphones and older models if not for no other reason than price. Then it will be a smart if not business savvy move to THEN make an RX-10IV upgrade and the makers who stay in the space will have a leg up. Give it 2-3 years max.

@wtfstop 3 ай бұрын

I am really hoping they release a mark 5 I use this camera in my youth photography classes and a upgraded tracking would be amazing

@BB-doc-fan 5 ай бұрын

U forgot the Nikon Coolpix as the real contender

@wtfstop 5 ай бұрын

Yes I did!

@barryinny 4 ай бұрын

Not really... The P1000 is 16MP vs 20MP; 1/2.3" vs 1"; F8 at the ridiculous long lengths vs F4; 7fps vs 20fps; I'm no expert but I'd get this only if I needed that 3000mm range...

@wtfstop 4 ай бұрын

@@barryinny Very true The RX10iv is #1 in its category, at least in my option.