The Springfield Trapdoor Rifle

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The Springfield Trapdoor Rifle
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@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
***Correction: Little Bighorn Battle was in Montana, not S. Dakota.****
@bradywells6447
@bradywells6447 Жыл бұрын
Happy international cowboy day
@scenicdriveways6708
@scenicdriveways6708 Жыл бұрын
Yes sir. Right off I-90 in Crow Agency, MT on the Crow Indian Reservation.
@kmorris180
@kmorris180 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you got that wrong and making a correction here won't fix it. You'll have to spend time in Purgatory (Colorado) for that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
@@kmorris180 Purgatory is in Colorado??? I thought it was in the Sonoran Desert! Damn. Shouldn't have taken that left turn at Albuquerque.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
@@bradywells6447 Thank You!
@kenkahre9262
@kenkahre9262 Жыл бұрын
My dad picked up a 1873 infantry trapdoor back when he was young, thinking he would use it for hunting. Got it at a pawn shop and rode with it home on the street car. Nobody batted an eye. Doubt you could do that again today. I still have it today.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
I bet it's accurate.
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 4 ай бұрын
Way less streetcars now, which imho is a shame.
@georgewashington3393
@georgewashington3393 2 ай бұрын
He KNEW he could use it for hunting lol
@georgewashington3393
@georgewashington3393 2 ай бұрын
I have my great grandfather's Winchester model 12 stamped 1928 when he bought it. He had that shotgun all through the depression into to 70s when my father had it. Taken so much game and still kicking. Snowshoes, fat Grey's grouse, it's all about taking care of your gun.
@georgewashington3393
@georgewashington3393 2 ай бұрын
Don't get me about the winny 94 that my grandpa found in a basement moving into his apartment in Albany NY in 1957🤣
@janblake9468
@janblake9468 Жыл бұрын
I had an original trapdoor carbine, a wedding gift from my wife (in 1971), but a burglar took it a couple years later. I later bought a replica that shoots very accurately. One of my favorites.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Oh wow!
@anangryranger
@anangryranger Жыл бұрын
As a kid living on the Pine Ridge reservation, I hunted with an 1873 TD carbine that was taken from the field. My great uncle said it was from a trooper in the fight at the Greasy Grass. It had belonged to his father. I brought in alot of game with it. Kept the range within a hundred yards, as the loads were built with an old Ideal tong tool, with cast bullets and black powder. We used 55gr. and cornmeal filler. At 12 years old, that was a good load that didn't knock me silly when fired.😲 That carbine was later given to an older cousin, as was tradition.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
I hope it's still in the family.
@anangryranger
@anangryranger Жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders Oh it is. Lakota pass things down within the family. My great uncle let me use the weapon to hunt as he knew I'd bring back meat. And when I got a 1903A3 Springfield in 30'06, I'd be reaching out to bringing in pronghorn antelope. Then, with a better weapon to hunt with, the trapdoor was passed down to the eldest of the cousins. It was "on loan" to me because I could shoot well and was good at hunting.
@thomaslietzau2813
@thomaslietzau2813 Жыл бұрын
YUP ALWAYS FUN SANTEE
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@kcthecowboy
@kcthecowboy Жыл бұрын
I found one in a gun shop for $400 a few years ago. According to the serial number, I believe it was manufactured in 1973. Quite happy with the find.
@chrissewell1608
@chrissewell1608 Жыл бұрын
So, a reproduction model. I hope you picked it up!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Cool
@kcthecowboy
@kcthecowboy Жыл бұрын
Should have read 1873.
@sarahcrews2544
@sarahcrews2544 Жыл бұрын
Thank you all for all the hard work you put into these. It literally makes me Saturday’s
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@joecuppko40uh29
@joecuppko40uh29 Жыл бұрын
Another great history lesson from Santee & Co.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@Ulquiorra4163
@Ulquiorra4163 Жыл бұрын
I remember this gun well cause I learned about it from the old show Wild West Tech, faults and all it's still one of the more successful conversions in firearms history. Also, it's worth pointing out another and bigger reason for the Army not adopting a lever-action was due to, as usual, money as he guns cost a pretty penny in the day. But a very forgotten issue was ammo as Henrys of the time weren't ammo compatible so new ammo would need to be made and shipped en masse. Now imagine trying to supply outposts and forts in potentially hostile territory to complicate things further. I would recommend peeking at InRange TV for a interesting what-if idea of Henrys getting issued in a very well-thought out way, it also expands on more reasons the gun never got adopted.
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the relatively complicated mechanisms in the repeaters of the time, as opposed to the simple ones on the Springfield.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Great firearm. Action is sweet
@lessage760
@lessage760 Жыл бұрын
awsome sir thank you
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@Rags2Itches
@Rags2Itches Жыл бұрын
Now say the longer version of that rifle's name ten times ... fast. What a mouthful. I watched another video last night, listing the top five guns used in the Wild West. The Springfield trap door was one of them. It mentioned that the copper bullet casings could melt thus causing the gun to jam. Some of them, heck you'd of been better off with a sling shot, than all the fiddling one had to do to just to load it. That certainly would of inspired making model improvements and did so.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Interesting and accurate firearm
@AlphaTraveler1
@AlphaTraveler1 Жыл бұрын
As a political science major, I remember them saying that the biggest advancement in rifle was during the time of the pioneer times. Most of the mechanisms are still the same of similar. Very cool story Santee. 👍👍👍
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thanks, and the industrial age was quite impressive!
@samiam619
@samiam619 Жыл бұрын
The biggest advancements came when someone came up with the ability to measure SMALL measurements. If you can go to 1000th of an inch, you can duplicate parts over and over. That’s what spurred the Industrial Revolution.
@rhondaz356
@rhondaz356 Жыл бұрын
Santee, *you and your comrades entertain and inform many of us, through so many diverse ways, week after week. I don't know how you do it, but I'm so grateful you do. THANK YOU 👏🤠👏 top-notch as ALWAYS
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 6 ай бұрын
Little Bighorn was like the Civil War for these things, brother against brother, sister against sister.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 6 ай бұрын
🤠
@duaneho555
@duaneho555 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Great information as always Santee.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@JasperTedVidalTale
@JasperTedVidalTale Жыл бұрын
Excellent trapfield video
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@timroot4207
@timroot4207 Жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@chubbethsthunder
@chubbethsthunder Жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thank you very much. Have a blessed weekend.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank you! You too!
@ericruss4189
@ericruss4189 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video! Happy birthday to you and Dan. Hope yall had a fantastic day.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@jimhenningfeld5896
@jimhenningfeld5896 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you guys and gals back.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Back? We haven't left since 2006...
@squint04
@squint04 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Santee, fine episode!! Have a great week
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@kirkmorrison6131
@kirkmorrison6131 Жыл бұрын
I have an original 1873, Trapdoor in 45- 70. It still shoots like a charm almost as well as my Remington Rolling Block given the difference between the military and vernier sites. I use a 405gr bullet, lubed with tallow mix 70 grns Bp with a wad of cardboard and a thin grease wad. A wonderful old rifle
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Cool
@dennis56
@dennis56 Жыл бұрын
Why the cardboard wad ? I don't use one in mine.
@kirkmorrison6131
@kirkmorrison6131 Жыл бұрын
@@dennis56 well you can use bonded paper, I live in the South and sometimes a box is out long enough to soften. I have had problems in matches in PA, so o The cardboard allows better compression and absorbs melted lube and protects the powder.
@frankrizzo367
@frankrizzo367 Жыл бұрын
Another great episode! Thanks Santee
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@anthonycalbillo9376
@anthonycalbillo9376 Жыл бұрын
Wow, Bill and Rex both look like they're good shots after all these years!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah!
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher Жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned the failings of the copper cartridges. Also glad to see some clips of Son of the Morning Star. I watched it when it aired. Had to negotiate a later bedtime to do it.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@craigthescott5074
@craigthescott5074 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 1865 Springfield 50-70 trapdoor rifle from my great grandfather who found it hidden up in the roof rafters of Fort Lowell in Tucson AZ in the early 1900’s. It was missing the cleaning rod and bayonet so I found originals for it. I will pass it down to my son.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
That's amazing. 11BangBang (the guy shooting in blue) has one of those.
@tballstaedt7807
@tballstaedt7807 Жыл бұрын
In case anyone is thinking about getting one. An original 1873 springfield rifle in sound mechanical firing condition can be had for half the cost of a repro. That may not be the case forever though. For the most part, the government didn't surpluss these out until the 1950s. A ton of these suckers were mand so there are some very nice originals in great condition out there.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
They did make a lot of 'em.
@stevenunyabidness
@stevenunyabidness 4 ай бұрын
those originals can only be safely fired with black powder pressure level ammo, tho. part of why the repros are pricier is the ability to safely fire stiff, modern cartridges.
@AdaM48state
@AdaM48state Жыл бұрын
Thanks Santee, fantastic episode!!!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@faceman96
@faceman96 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking to myself "Hmmm, Santee should do a video on the 1873 Springfield rifle" Well low and behold... Thanks for the video, enjoyed it.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview Жыл бұрын
Very cool old rifle Santee! Very informative video too!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@lolk4530
@lolk4530 5 ай бұрын
The Springfield Trapdoor Rifle was actually used as late as World War 1 in a very limited capacity with the National guard
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 5 ай бұрын
No doubt!
@terryschiller2625
@terryschiller2625 Жыл бұрын
General Custer with all the single shot trapdoors we're out numbered and outgunned at the battle of the greasy grass. Most of the native Americans had repeaters like the Henry and 1866 Winchester. Those Gatling guns that Custer left behind may have helped a little. Looking forward to the video of the 1873's being fired. Great video Santee thank you for your hard work and time Sir!🤠
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@sambarnard9628
@sambarnard9628 Жыл бұрын
Great topic. Great episode. Thanks for sharing this info.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@pocatellocowboy1077
@pocatellocowboy1077 Жыл бұрын
I loved this one, brother! But of course you already know that!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
yes!
@robertthompson6958
@robertthompson6958 Жыл бұрын
A little history. A little humor. Always enjoy these.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@englishcowboy9155
@englishcowboy9155 Жыл бұрын
nice one Santee, thank you.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@ccthepope
@ccthepope Жыл бұрын
I finally got my original Trapdoor out a few weeks ago (I have owned it for 20 years and never fired) and loaded it with wax bullets and a .380 case load of 3f BP and it was a lot of fun to shoot!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Wow!
@agoogleaccount2861
@agoogleaccount2861 Жыл бұрын
Can also make shot loads by mixing wax and birdshot and pouring it over some 3f bp and an over powder card till the case is full .. it'll take out vermin around the farm without damaging equipment buildings etc. Flies like balled shot and easy to clean it afterwards
@Mr_Fancypants
@Mr_Fancypants Жыл бұрын
I once had a oppertunity to buy a trapdoor gun for 300 € but i didn't have the proper funding & was a bad time. I still cry.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Awww! There are more out there
@noahmercy-mann4323
@noahmercy-mann4323 Жыл бұрын
One of the first times the Trapdoor distinguished itself in an engagement occurred just a couple miles from where I live. A little backstory: In 1866, a woodcutting party from Fort Phil Kearney (established to protect the Bozeman Trail) near present-day Story, Wyoming, was ambushed by a group of warriors who included Red Cloud. All 81 of the men under Captain Fetterman were killed. They were armed with muzzleloaders, and the Lakota and their allies were primarily armed with bows. Fast forward to the next year. A party of 26 soldiers and 6 civilians were cutting wood just a couple miles from where the Fetterman massacre occurred, when they were attacked by several hundred (estimates run to over 1,000) Lakota and affiliated tribes' warriors. The woodcutting detail pulled the boxes off the chassis of their freight wagons to act as barricades, and began returning fire on the braves. This time, however, instead of muzzleloaders, they had the new Trapdoors, and even a couple Yellow Boys. The small force of soldiers and civilians successfully held off the much larger force of attackers for six hours until they were reinforced from the fort. Only three defenders died, while the Indian losses were in the hundreds (according to a surviving Oglala Sioux who was involved). Trapdoors were a genuine game changer for a few years.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@tacticalmanatee
@tacticalmanatee Жыл бұрын
I love the trapdoor action. It's impressive that the Italian replicas from Uberti/Pedersoli are proofed (as required by Italian law) to modern smokeless loads of .45-70. I have even heard rumors that the proof test cartridge used by Italian proofing houses is based on what we would call "Marlin loads", or 40,000 CUP pressures (vs 25,000 CUP for "trapdoor" smokeless loads that are closer to BP pressures). Either way, the modern Italian-made replicas are pretty darn durable firearms considering the age of the design. I'd love to own one someday but the cost for the Italian replicas is pretty high, $1,800 to $2,100 depending on model.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Glad they reproduce them.
@nagjrcjasonbower
@nagjrcjasonbower Жыл бұрын
Nice! Can’t wait for the pew pew episode!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@hankfrankly7240
@hankfrankly7240 Жыл бұрын
I can't add a thing. You did an excellent job 👍
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😊 Misspoke the territory of Little Bighorn. Already corrected though.
@LionquestFitness
@LionquestFitness Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing you shoot it!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Me too. I love a .45-70
@larry1824
@larry1824 Жыл бұрын
Have a firing repro and a non firing repro and love em both especially the sights,and how substantial it feels in my hands. Have never fired enuf rounds at one time to have jaming problem that plagued troopers.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@skiphinson8620
@skiphinson8620 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@victorwaddell6530
@victorwaddell6530 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again Santee & Co. I'm an ammunition reloader . In my ammunition reloading manual there are three chapters on loading 45-70 for 1873 Springfield rifles . Chapter 1 is about loading for antique guns , and how they should be loaded with black powder for safety . Chapter 2 is about reloading for modern replicas with better metallurgy . And chapter 3 is about loading for modern rifles chambered in 45-70 with modern powders and components . I'd hate to hear about someone blowing up their gun and possibly harming themselves with incorrect ammo . Let's be safe so we can see each other down on the range sometime .
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
The only .45-70 we shoot is from a person who loads to original specs. When we do another shooting video we will mention it again.
@joshuabarnett3639
@joshuabarnett3639 Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to that shooting video, santee . Happy International Day of the Cowboy
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@stevethedude5553
@stevethedude5553 Жыл бұрын
Mornin
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Hey
@AM-lh7rw
@AM-lh7rw Жыл бұрын
Oh boy!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@distlledbrewedreviewed
@distlledbrewedreviewed Жыл бұрын
Interesting history and progression. That will be cool when you shoot that rifle, I can't wait for that video Cheers my friend.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods
@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods Жыл бұрын
Very good video santee that was fun
@oregonoutback7779
@oregonoutback7779 Жыл бұрын
It was good seeing your AI clone getting some air time 😁
@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods
@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods Жыл бұрын
@@oregonoutback7779 lol yup
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. I misplaced the battle of LIttle Bighorn in a neighboring state. I looked over my narration and I actually wrote "Montana" but somehow said S. Dakota and never corrected it.
@justinweaver8107
@justinweaver8107 Жыл бұрын
I freakn love the trap door Springfield ❤❤
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Great firearm
@tyrranicalt-rad6164
@tyrranicalt-rad6164 Жыл бұрын
Reach for the Sky, Santee !!! 💥🔫 🤠
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@bewarethebear
@bewarethebear Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a four-way contest between the Trapdoor, the 1874 Sharps infantry rifle, the Remington M1867 and the Martini Henry .577/450 one day. All four military single-shot Big Boys in the ring together 😁
@snappers_antique_firearms
@snappers_antique_firearms Жыл бұрын
Me to
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@jackiewindham8199
@jackiewindham8199 Жыл бұрын
Add the 577 Snyder in there.
@bewarethebear
@bewarethebear Жыл бұрын
@@jackiewindham8199 five for fighting it is!
@snappers_antique_firearms
@snappers_antique_firearms Жыл бұрын
🤔I think there was a sidearm the Calvary used during the Era of the Trapdoor Springfield. If only I could remember what it was.😉
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
HAHA! If you only knew!
@reverendmorgano9659
@reverendmorgano9659 Жыл бұрын
The Springfield trapdoor is one of my absolute favorite rifles from that era. It's such an iconic firearm. Thanks for posting this.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@Wolf-yt5de
@Wolf-yt5de Жыл бұрын
Nice ode to "The Twilight Zone" with the tank at Little Big Horn!🤣
@Atpost334
@Atpost334 Жыл бұрын
I thought about that episode as well. One of the best TLZs.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
😁
@scottdunkirk8198
@scottdunkirk8198 Жыл бұрын
I have an 1870 model of trapdoor, the 1868 model and 1870 didn’t use an old barrel but a purpose built barrel, only the 66 had the 58 barrel with the .50 sleeve brazed inside.
@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods
@garrettfromsmokeinthewoods Жыл бұрын
I have both models as well and the 1868 models made in 1869 still had the lined barrel the 1868s in 1870 have new barrels my sources are the books by Richard Homsmere and the the springfield trapdoor book 2 by Al Frasca
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
So many versions...
@darinweiszbrod3823
@darinweiszbrod3823 Жыл бұрын
Great job ,Santee , I learned a lot , Keep up the good work and stay cool ...
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@phillipallen3259
@phillipallen3259 Жыл бұрын
On my wall hangs a model 1873 carbine. My grandpa bought it for hunting around 1940. He gave it to me dad in the 80's and my dad passed it on to me a couple years ago. It still shoots straight.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Great!
@TimKoehn44
@TimKoehn44 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Santee. I used to have a Model 1888 with the ramrod bayonet. Sadly, it was stolen. I loved shooting it. I need to get another. Have a great weekend! Cheers!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@wes326
@wes326 Жыл бұрын
I have a 1884 trapdoor rifle Shot 20 rounds through it 40 years ago.Maybe I'll shoot it again one day. Thanks for sharing.
@robdavidson4945
@robdavidson4945 Жыл бұрын
As a 15 year old in the summer of 1970 I worked for Bob Weatherly on his ranch outside of Asotin, Washington. Mr. Weatherly was a WW2 Naval Officer, Historian and author who by the time I worked on his ranch had written several books on the history of the Washington State area. He had in his possession a Trapdoor Springfield that had belonged to Chief Looking Glass that he carried on the Nez Pierce Trail of Tears. Mr. Weatherly had solid documentation on the weapon. Around this time back home in Idaho I also knew an old retired Veterinarian also a WW2 combat veteran who had a number of original manufacture late 1800's weapons including Colt SAA and a couple of Trapdoor Springfields one of which was a 50 - 90 that my brother and I got to shoot on a number of occasions. All blackpowder cartridges of course. Yup I had a great childhood.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@robdavidson4945
@robdavidson4945 Жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders It put a smile on face.
@captin-crane3324
@captin-crane3324 8 күн бұрын
Literally a gun without flaw for its time
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 8 күн бұрын
I just saw one used in the original Stagecoach. Don't remember it, but it was a nice touch.
@marcosaraiva9205
@marcosaraiva9205 Жыл бұрын
I never understood why not continue with Spencer carbine not to mention the Henry! Keep up amigo has always see ya down the trail
@AdaM48state
@AdaM48state Жыл бұрын
Hi Marco, amigo!!!!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Right on
@marcosaraiva9205
@marcosaraiva9205 Жыл бұрын
@ArizonaGhostriders When I mentioned the Spencer and the Henry is in period after the Civil War because there a picture taken in 1880s in New Mexico that is plain visible soldiers of US cavellary with Hotchkiss carbines !
@marcosaraiva9205
@marcosaraiva9205 Жыл бұрын
@@AdaM48state I amigo Adam!
@handlebarslim78
@handlebarslim78 Жыл бұрын
Another good one Santee.🐕‍🦺🇺🇲
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@roblowe9283
@roblowe9283 8 ай бұрын
Great Show !
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 8 ай бұрын
🥃🥃
@gijoe508
@gijoe508 Жыл бұрын
Son of the morning star AND Rough Riders making appearances in the same video! Two of my favorites!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Woohoo!
@Stuingtion
@Stuingtion Жыл бұрын
Such an iconic rifle. And I own a Krag Carbine rifle. And proud of it. But I'd like to have one of these rifles.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Cool!
@johnhudak3829
@johnhudak3829 11 ай бұрын
Hey y'all, love the channel! I'd be interested in some talk on the various prairie belts that were used in the wake of the Little Big Horn battle. Keep up the good work!!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 11 ай бұрын
Great suggestion!
@ObjectHistory
@ObjectHistory Жыл бұрын
Never knew the origin of the story behind the trap door invention/method. Nice.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Glad you got something out of the video!
@led8541
@led8541 Жыл бұрын
Great video Santee
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@KevinBearden-t6b
@KevinBearden-t6b Жыл бұрын
Custer had access to several Gatling Guns but he felt they would be to hard to transport
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Right. Mentioned that in the Gatling Gun video.
@tedebear108
@tedebear108 Жыл бұрын
Good evening. It's Ted from San Antonio Texas. I have one of those Springfield trapdoor. Definitely a cool gun. Stay safe and cool
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@lawrencelewis2592
@lawrencelewis2592 Жыл бұрын
In the Hudson river near Beacon, New York is Bannerman's Island which still has the ruins of Bannerman's Castle. It's close to the Eastern bank of the river.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
I've seen it from a distance!
@franks6857
@franks6857 Жыл бұрын
Another great video! Thank you Santee for "Keeping The West Alive!"
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@swf91856
@swf91856 Жыл бұрын
I have both the rifle and carbine models of the Trapdoor, but I prefer shooting my Krag. Great video, keep em' coming.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@1945tigers
@1945tigers Жыл бұрын
Very cool Santee thank you.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
You bet
@dn88s
@dn88s Жыл бұрын
A few months ago I watched ol yeller after years and noticed the kid had what appeared to be a trap door. I wondered if it was one of the early conversions. I assumed but didn't know these were sold surplus like most of the military guns back then
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Maybe!
@oregonoutback7779
@oregonoutback7779 Жыл бұрын
3:06 .... "Custer met defeat in South Dakota" ...... Hmmm, I'm thinking maybe the Montana Board of Tourism may want to have a word with you, Santee. Might want to wear your arrow proof vest for that meeting 😁
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Yeah, already corrected that in the comments and description field. I had the wrong region in my mind when I was typing.
@jerseyred9554
@jerseyred9554 Жыл бұрын
Santee my friend, you always educate and entertain. I have learned more from you and your channel then anywhere else 🥃🥃
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@Grizzlybike
@Grizzlybike Жыл бұрын
Loved it!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@jamalwilburn228
@jamalwilburn228 Жыл бұрын
There was a "Twilight Zone" episode where a 1950s tank crew went in the battle. They died
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
So I hear.
@peterott-tn6pf
@peterott-tn6pf Жыл бұрын
That was absolutely awesome Santee!!! I love learning about the ol west firearms, as well as the ol west in general! Thanks again for all that yall do at Arizona Ghostriders to keep the spirit of the western days alive and kicking!!!! See ya on down the trail buddy!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@peterott-tn6pf
@peterott-tn6pf Жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders you're very welcome!!🤠
@ratknight6659
@ratknight6659 4 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Such a cool rifle and it definitely served its country for a while. And I always did wonder why the military didn’t adopt the Spencer rifles/carbines or the Henry rifles more than the trapdoor rifle. But your video answered that question so thanks! And for the few trapdoors that were used during the Spanish American war. Wonder how the solider who had one felt when he found out he was fighting against fellas with bolt action rifles who could fire off five rounds before having to reload. Bet he was probably not happy lol Keep up the awesome work!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 4 ай бұрын
Thank You!
@marcthomas2482
@marcthomas2482 Жыл бұрын
Another great video Santee!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@Dsdcain
@Dsdcain Жыл бұрын
Thanks Santee for another great video. Even if Dirty Dan said part of it was "stupid". It was still great, Stay safe out there, and take it easy man.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@billyyank1916
@billyyank1916 11 ай бұрын
Actually planning on getting into Indian War reenacting myself. This video helped a lot, thanks Santee!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 11 ай бұрын
You are welcome
@indigowolf556
@indigowolf556 Жыл бұрын
Another very informative video. Thank you so much 🤠
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@tylorfox783
@tylorfox783 Жыл бұрын
We had a 50/70 trapdoor come in for a friend of mine with buckshot in the stock. Kind of grisly but it's easy to see where the rifle's owner was holding it when he became perforated. Thanks for the awesome video guys!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Wow!! That's a story alright
@99dsm1
@99dsm1 Жыл бұрын
A tank didn't help Custer and his men on an episode of the twilight zone. It was one of my top 5 favorite episodes 😊
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
It didn't?
@99dsm1
@99dsm1 Жыл бұрын
@ArizonaGhostriders it didn't make it to the actual battle I guess Cool episode "The 7th is made up of ghosts" if I recall
@Idahoguy10157
@Idahoguy10157 Жыл бұрын
The Army in 19th century Idaho passed out hundreds if not over a thousand Trapdoor Springfield to civilians and militias.Along with cases of ammo for them
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
I'd like to read more on that. Do you have a source for the info?
@Idahoguy10157
@Idahoguy10157 Жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders .. I’ll check. This was directly because of the Indian Wars. I don’t think was limited to Idaho. The army at Fort Boise had to deal with a lot of trouble on very limited manpower. Renegade Indian problems, the Oregon Trail was active with travelers, assorted bandits, anti-Chinese riots, and mining interests all willing to go to war with each other over claims. Especially in Silver City.
@kenchampness8240
@kenchampness8240 Жыл бұрын
Another cool history lesson , could you please do a segment on the Henry rifle and how the Winchester rifle came into play after they stopped making the Henry rifle it would be cool to teach the younger Ghost riders
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
I think I mentioned it in my repeating rifles video.
@kenchampness8240
@kenchampness8240 Жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders Ok thanks I'll have to go back and rewatch that one I might have missed it.
@michaelpage4199
@michaelpage4199 Жыл бұрын
As always top shelf bit of history. Thanks for sharing
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
You are welcome
@rebelhomesteader
@rebelhomesteader Жыл бұрын
I have a trapdoor carbine, original. According to the serial number it was manufactured/issued after little big horn.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Whoah!
@southronjr1570
@southronjr1570 3 ай бұрын
An old family story about the Trapdoor. My Great Grandfather told a story of when his older brother came back from the Army after the Spanish American war he bought his issued rifle, an 1873 Springfield, from the Army as he mustered out. When he got home, he and my Great Grandfather, who was 12 at the time, went out shooting bc my G Grandfather was really interested in it. They went out to the back field where they grew corn and fired at a corner fence post that was about 100 yards away and was about 10 inches in diameter. They figured there was no way a bullet could go through it and didnt worry about the cattle in the adjacent field. Well, they shot it and he said it almost knocked him over and suddenly a big prized bull that was way on the other side of the field about 500 yards away let out a great big bellow and gell over. They ran to the fence post sure it couldnt have been them, and found a nice hole in theirbside and a big chunk of wood missing on the oppiste side. They ran to the bull and found a ragged hole in its chest and an hole big enough to put your fist in on the other side of it. Needless to say, he remmebered the whipping his father gave him and his brother, even though his brother was 20 at the time. He said that, that rifle was just too powerful for him to ever have a need to shoot it ever again. The rifle ended up being passed down to my fathers second cousin and she left it to him when she passed away when my day was around 15. He kept it at his mothers house until it disappeared after a renter she had let a room out to left, along with his 4 digit serial numbered Springfield 1903 and an original Singer 1911 handgun back around 1975. He tried tracking the thief down but he had skipped town and wasnt heard from again.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 3 ай бұрын
Sorry about the loss of such great items. I despise thieves...
@b-squad11
@b-squad11 Жыл бұрын
Fab Video as always :)
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@jacktheobalt8362
@jacktheobalt8362 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content, it's always entertaining and educational.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@derweibhai
@derweibhai Жыл бұрын
There was a Twilight Zone episode of a Stuart tank crew sent back in time to Custers fight.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Here I thought Bill came up with the idea
@derweibhai
@derweibhai Жыл бұрын
The 7th Is Made Up of Phantoms Episode aired Dec 6, 1963
@brianfow4666
@brianfow4666 Жыл бұрын
Love this video
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@billrivenbark8983
@billrivenbark8983 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but the 45-70 was used alongside the Kraig in the Span-Am war by the Buffalo Soldiers and was a hard hitting round.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
No argument there. The rate of fire was the issue.
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