The (Staggering) Siege of Vienna 1683

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@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 4 жыл бұрын
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@backalleycqc4790
@backalleycqc4790 4 жыл бұрын
One of your best, I enjoyed that thoroughly most especially the research and sources. An excellent presentation 👍
@kriegscommissarmccraw4205
@kriegscommissarmccraw4205 4 жыл бұрын
This was far better then the coverage that extra credits did. My favorite time period in history was around this era, the powder wars. Glad I found you
@wolfgangkranek376
@wolfgangkranek376 4 жыл бұрын
The best and most comprehensive presentation of this historic event.
@medievalist8441
@medievalist8441 4 жыл бұрын
Might I suggest the cossacks or a series on the swabian wars
@christinejoyinoc9185
@christinejoyinoc9185 4 жыл бұрын
@@medievalist8441 the swabian would be great although not really discussed a lot.
@garethwigglesworth8187
@garethwigglesworth8187 4 жыл бұрын
My house was built in 1620. I look at it and think to myself wow. My house was 63 years old when the siege of Vienna happened
@hansvonmannschaft9062
@hansvonmannschaft9062 3 жыл бұрын
Given your name and flag, I'd say it's not needed at all to place your ears against your basement walls, so rest safe :-)
@7777farmboy
@7777farmboy 3 жыл бұрын
A 40 year old house in Canada is due for a tear down and redo!
@H0kram
@H0kram 3 жыл бұрын
If walls could speak, eh? ;)
@Mugdorna
@Mugdorna 3 жыл бұрын
Cool.
@giuseppelogiurato5718
@giuseppelogiurato5718 3 жыл бұрын
I hope your house has undergone some upgrades since then... Your 17th century toilet was paved over years ago, I'm sure. All joking aside, I am curious as to what kind of building it is that you call your house... Is it brick? Stone? Wood? Most people don't have such an old dwelling.
@chomik86
@chomik86 4 жыл бұрын
1683 - "those poles are really brave people, they helped us, our friends. 1772 - "Poland is divided by Austria,Russian and Prussia".
@2411509igwt
@2411509igwt 4 жыл бұрын
realpolitik
@freekmulder3662
@freekmulder3662 4 жыл бұрын
New leaders, different alliances, different politics. If Austria hadn't taken anything Prussia and Russia would've. Realpolitik as the other guy puts it
@lilbrothaaa
@lilbrothaaa 4 жыл бұрын
@@freekmulder3662 And the Austrian Empress reportedly even cried on taking! xD
@seas1829
@seas1829 4 жыл бұрын
Why do Poles always say that like austria could have done anything about the partition. Eternal crybabies
@246vili
@246vili 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the same happenned with Hungary. If it wasn't for the help of the Hungarian and Cuman forces of Ladislaus IV. in the Battle on the Marchfeld (1278) the "poor count" from Swabian Habsburg Castle, Rudolf I. of Habsburg would not had been able to secure his possession of the Duchies of Austria and Styria, the very foundation of House of Habsburg's power base. And how that ended? Hungary also got riped to pieces in the 16th century with one part ruled by the Habsburgs for centuries. I would say the moral of the story is to NOT help out the Habsburgs, but actually that's just politics, as so many already pointed it out here.
@cetus4449
@cetus4449 3 жыл бұрын
For Sobieski, the fights against the Ottoman Empire had also personal, not only political or religious aspect. His ancestor was Crown Hetman Stanisław Żółkiewski, whose last-stand fight, in battle of Cecora 1620, is well known in the history of Poland. Żólkiewski died in age of 72 with a saber in his hand as a hero defending the country's borders. Sobieski's mother taught her sons Latin on the example of the inscriptions covering the tomb of their great ancestor. The uncle and brother of king Jan were killed by Tatars. Jan himself was born in a castle surrounded by the raging Tatar invasion. The fight against the Tatars and the Turks, one could say, was this man's destiny. Except from the Battle of Vienna his other victories are little known to history enthusiasts in countries different than Poland. Among that victories are brilliant counter-raid around the city of Lwów against the overwhelming strength of Tatar raiders in 1672, and in the next year battle of Khotyn where the 40,000 Turkish army was literally annihilated. Nevertheless, Sobieski didn't hate or prejudice his muslim enemies. He enjoyed a Janissary music and even had his own Janissary orchestra made of Turkish POW's. Poles and Turks met each other for hundreds of years in trade, diplomacy and on many battlefields*, but they could respect each other, even as enemies. *(probably first time in Battle of Kosovo 1389, where some Polish knights supported the Serbian army)
@Bananaking23424
@Bananaking23424 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a historic review that doesn't reek of nationalism or outright hate.
@invaderHUNK
@invaderHUNK 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of POW musicians until now, and it sounds hilarious to me. You win a glorious victory, take many POWs, and instead of ransoming them or releasing them, you’re like “Sing me a song”
@Giagantus
@Giagantus 2 жыл бұрын
The last paragraph is true. The Polish were Turkophiles and loved everything Ottoman. And since they defeated the Ottomans several times they had plenty of Ottomans stuff. The helmets and swords were inspired/copied from the Ottomans (and potentially improved upon). There is a book about this.
@demilung
@demilung 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't that siege of Lviv end when Tatars and Cossacks were paid a ransom?
@tomekdarda
@tomekdarda 2 жыл бұрын
@@Giagantus Indeed! The clothing style of the Polish and Lithuanian/Ruthenian nobility was heavily inspired by Ottoman elements. And until this day there is a considerable section of the Wawel Castle Museum of Kraków displaying Ottoman treasures won in those wars: tents, art, jewellery, pottery and so on. And, at the same time, there is respect.
@saidtoshimaru1832
@saidtoshimaru1832 4 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: Siege warfare sucks.
@Ivnnih2774
@Ivnnih2774 4 жыл бұрын
even more sucks prolonged siege warfare -sun tzu (kinda)
@manfredschultz9619
@manfredschultz9619 4 жыл бұрын
Vid mentioned an Ottoman 21 YEAR siege of a city, goddamn
@skyhappy
@skyhappy 4 жыл бұрын
Also, death by silk string lol
@absoleet
@absoleet 4 жыл бұрын
@@skyhappy No blood spilt.
@alexmag342
@alexmag342 4 жыл бұрын
Ww1 western front in a nutshell
@S.P.117
@S.P.117 4 жыл бұрын
"and Poland will answer" *Theoden likes this element*
@davidtuttle7556
@davidtuttle7556 4 жыл бұрын
A rohirrim has entered the chat.
@wladyslawderstreiter9078
@wladyslawderstreiter9078 4 жыл бұрын
:D
@thegroovee
@thegroovee 4 жыл бұрын
That was such an epic statement!
@sauronmordor7494
@sauronmordor7494 4 жыл бұрын
yex
@blackbaron4774
@blackbaron4774 4 жыл бұрын
What is interesting is that Tolkien based siege of Minas Tirith on siege of Vienna, so this comment is really accurate.
@UkrainianPaulie
@UkrainianPaulie 2 жыл бұрын
Two of My ancestors were Winged Hussars at Vienna. They were minor nobility and were in the First Banner (First Company). My father has one of the szabla (saber). Niech żyje Polska!
@scribblerstudios9895
@scribblerstudios9895 Жыл бұрын
Gotta say, that's pretty cool. Hope ya doin well.
@paulmerring1607
@paulmerring1607 Жыл бұрын
That is fucking awesome!!!
@jankubiak3218
@jankubiak3218 Жыл бұрын
I see a bit of ambivalence, tho im happy to hear support and a connection to our common heritage, I also see the red-black of Bandera (OUN/UPA) responsible for the Volhynian Genocide.
@basiakokocinsk9582
@basiakokocinsk9582 Жыл бұрын
Taaa ... Mówisz niech żyje Polska z banderowska flagą ... Czyli tą z którą twoi dziadkowie mordowali moich ...
@lordski1981
@lordski1981 Жыл бұрын
My Brother! I as well have an ancestor who was with the Hussars at Vienna. It took me quite a good while to research and confirm that particular part of the family history. It was always passed down through us as a fact, and we just accepted it as such. Then I studied and became an historian and decided that I wanted to find out how legitimate that family story was. It turned out to be fairly accurate when all things considered.
@kononbt
@kononbt 4 жыл бұрын
And after 112 years, the Austrians visited Krakow and, enchanted by its beauty, stayed there for almost 123 years ;)
@panzerofthelake506
@panzerofthelake506 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@justinlance4174
@justinlance4174 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ask_a_Martyr not true. Byzantines. Romans. Greeks. So on Europe has always had advantages in civilization and powerful countries
@soundknight
@soundknight 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ask_a_Martyr 1750, industrial revolution is what gave fuel to the engine of European power. Before that Europe was gambling HARD with a mostly empty hand.
@soundknight
@soundknight 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ask_a_Martyr the European ethos is really made of: Saxon business sense, Viking diplomacy and Catholic fervor.
@PrawnzHD
@PrawnzHD 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ask_a_Martyr makbe turkey is european?
@ReaperCH90
@ReaperCH90 4 жыл бұрын
I just realized where the expression "to undermine" comes from
@Insectoid_
@Insectoid_ 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit
@stayhungry1503
@stayhungry1503 4 жыл бұрын
Min(e)d: Blown!
@rhino3677
@rhino3677 4 жыл бұрын
OMG! That just blew my mine.
@rhino3677
@rhino3677 4 жыл бұрын
@@stayhungry1503 Nice
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 4 жыл бұрын
Also, why a 'mine' is both the tunnel that is dug as the explosive device at the end of it.
@svenw688
@svenw688 3 жыл бұрын
Considering how relatively recent , large/long and potentially worldchanging The Sieges of Vienna were. The absence of the sieges from our schools history books especially in europe, is a mystery to me. Underated in every way !
@pamtnman1515
@pamtnman1515 3 жыл бұрын
Good point, but it’s no mystery. It’s purposeful. The education establishment has been taken over by the Left, which opposes western civilization and is seeking to destroy it from within.
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 3 жыл бұрын
1620 is not relatively recent when it comes to history. The more recent sth is, the more about it is taught. That said, I'm pretty sure this battle was mentioned in my history classes.
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 3 жыл бұрын
@@pamtnman1515 I could equally claim that it's taken over by the right, because of all of the stuff about colonialism not mentioned. You can't put everything into the curriculum. If people know that the Ottomans tried and failed to push into Europe at around that time, that's good enough.
@pamtnman1515
@pamtnman1515 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrCmon113 uhhhh yeah. Sure. History taken over by “the right.” Which is why western history books and classes everywhere promote leftist ideology. And which colonialism are you mentioning here? The one in the Middle East where a toxic mix of Arab colonialism and Islamic imperialism resulted in one of the world’s greatest genocides and ethnic cleansings? That one? Or maybe the Ottoman Empire colonialism? Or maybe the Chinese empire? Or the Russian empire? Or perhaps the KwaZulu expansionism against Bantu Africans, not to mention the widespread tribal conflicts across Africa with all the attendant slave trading and mass murdering? You leave so many “colonial” periods open for selecting, but we know which one you subjectively choose, because you are an anti western leftist. That brief window in fairly modern history where Europeans expanded beyond their immediate borders, just as every other ethnicity and language group has done since time immemorial
@trzy
@trzy 3 жыл бұрын
@@pamtnman1515 European colonialism rightly deserves the scrutiny and scorn it now receives. It is a testament to the strength of modern culture that we can apply such introspection and move forward rather than fall rapidly into irrelevance with the sort of ethnocentric navel-gazing promoted by present-day degenerate "conservatives." Standard bearers of Western culture they are most certainly not.
@guavaguy4397
@guavaguy4397 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is so underrated.
@9and7
@9and7 4 жыл бұрын
NO. It's Staggeringly Underrated....
@FieldMarshalYT
@FieldMarshalYT 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly people only seem to watch the exact same ww2 channels over and over again, this era just isnt as popular enough.
@peterembranch5797
@peterembranch5797 4 жыл бұрын
I'm underrated.
@Ask_a_Martyr
@Ask_a_Martyr 4 жыл бұрын
*Who DO you LOVE the MOST????? Nancy PeLosi or HeLLary CLinton????*
@FieldMarshalYT
@FieldMarshalYT 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ask_a_Martyr what
@niedrichFrietzsche
@niedrichFrietzsche 4 жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta untill the mountainside starts speaking polish.
@Notmyname1593
@Notmyname1593 4 жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta until the earth starts speaking turkish.
@Progen77
@Progen77 4 жыл бұрын
@@Notmyname1593 Turkey got it's ass kicked at Vienna twice, got wrecked at Malta and was pushed out of Europe completely. Good luck getting the "world" to speak Turkish.
@Notmyname1593
@Notmyname1593 4 жыл бұрын
@@Progen77 Apparently earth means Earth to you, but okay. I doubt the defenders of Vienna would have agreed with you either.
@Holozon
@Holozon 4 жыл бұрын
@@Progen77 way to many Ö and Ü in turkish... most people would rather die than learn turkish. . and this as an Austrian, who uses ö and ü too.
@microwaveenthusiast7410
@microwaveenthusiast7410 3 жыл бұрын
@@Notmyname1593 u mean the sappers ?
@samy7013
@samy7013 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting tidbit: Just as a huge number of soldiers in the Ottoman army were Christians (Hungarian, and even English, French, German, and Dutch Protestants as well as Serbs and other Orthodox troops), one of the most effective elements in the Polish army were the Muslim Lipka Tatars. Once he got home after the Siege of Vienna, the Polish king happily ordered the building of mosques for his Lipka Tatar vassals. Many of these mosques still stand today, and Muslim Lipka Tatar cavalrymen were still serving in the Polish army as late as World War Two, with new inductees into the Lipka Tatar lancer regiment swearing their oath of service in Islamic style. If I’m not mistaken, a monument to the Muslim Lipka Tatar cavalry was also unveiled some years ago in Poland.
@Sinleqeunnini
@Sinleqeunnini 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting.
@fin5494
@fin5494 2 жыл бұрын
wow mashallah
@ergunyildizoglu8018
@ergunyildizoglu8018 2 жыл бұрын
After this defeat I do not know how long later Poland wiped out of map! Divided 4 and never existed for a long time.Only 1 super power stand strongly against it! Ottoman turks...They always kept polish flags during meeting with the other europeans! After the russian attacks to poland a lot of polish elites and military officers took refuge in ottomans.and those officers helped a lot to turks to modernise their army.They did really good job.Some of them became even moslems, some of them became statesman or military high rank pashas ( sort of general, high rank officers, commanders) . History is sometimes very funny and strange! One the greatest poetr of Modern Turkey is Nazim Hikmet is a great great grandson of polish officer who took refugee in ottomans. I deeply thanks to polish nation for giving gift to us Nazim Hikmet.
@themercifulguard3971
@themercifulguard3971 2 жыл бұрын
This is new info to me. I know Muslim kipchaks have had a long history in Eastern Europe but I never knew they fought the Ottomans on behalf of the Poles in this siege. The more you know...
@levranz1054
@levranz1054 2 жыл бұрын
@@ergunyildizoglu8018 They took refuge in a lot of countries actually.
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 4 жыл бұрын
Vienna: "We'll keep the coffee as compensation" And so a century long addiction started, and coffee culture swept over most of Europe. Who needs gold when you can have caffeine?
@HingerlAlois
@HingerlAlois 4 жыл бұрын
That’s not true. Coffee houses existed in several European cities (also in nowadays Germany) already prior to this battle.
@v4enthusiast541
@v4enthusiast541 4 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t their first time with coffee, but legend has it that it was the start of adidng milk to coffee (and another legend is this siege being the inspiration to the shape of the modern croissant).
@Ssseexxxyyman
@Ssseexxxyyman 4 жыл бұрын
@@v4enthusiast541 you need toolook on google, stepans dom mit halbmond and you see some true like the emblem of siena in italy, if you can
@NawafAlsulaiman
@NawafAlsulaiman 4 жыл бұрын
Coffee brought to Europe through the Ottomans, and coffee word came from the Arabic word “qahwa” Search it your self.
@Ssseexxxyyman
@Ssseexxxyyman 4 жыл бұрын
@@NawafAlsulaiman kawa you say in ukraina to kaffee
@stuartward1755
@stuartward1755 4 жыл бұрын
The coolest part about this battle is that it really was like something out of a movie in a sense that the relief force arrived at literally the last possible moment. If they arrived a day later Vienna would've fallen
@aksmex2576
@aksmex2576 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and then they would just have shattered the ottoman army anyway and besieged the city and retaken it right away since there was already siege work, while the ottomans were out of supplies.
@captaindred342
@captaindred342 3 жыл бұрын
It was also the largest cavalry charge in history.
@goosewithagibus
@goosewithagibus 3 жыл бұрын
Tolkien used it as an inspiration for the chapter "Ride of the Rohirrim" in Lord of the Rings. It's one hell of a chapter, but the history is one hell of a story as well.
@aitoriri1
@aitoriri1 2 жыл бұрын
@@aksmex2576 Thta is true but the Vienesse sure where happy to see the relif army arrive sooner rather than later
@aksmex2576
@aksmex2576 2 жыл бұрын
@@aitoriri1 sometimes they exaggerate in history things. With how close they were to defeat to make their look more epic. This channel has thaught us that sieges last as long as the defenders want them to. Knowing that there is a relief army, they probably would have held for much longer. Knowing that the ottomans later still had significant military strength suggests that they did perhaps withdraw intactly as they were never pursued.
@ER-wq9fk
@ER-wq9fk 2 жыл бұрын
WOW! I had read about this battle, but was a bit fuzzy on the details. This video really helped me understand what exactly went on, who was involved, and the structure of forts. Thank you so much for putting this together! I'm sharing it with a history class I'm teaching.
@Seppi1310
@Seppi1310 4 жыл бұрын
"Oida, I'm not going again!" got me pretty well 😄👏🏽
@the_rover1
@the_rover1 3 жыл бұрын
for 200 gulden I'm doing it!
@marcelflow3121
@marcelflow3121 3 жыл бұрын
Oida nice austian Easter egg.
@walterweiss7124
@walterweiss7124 3 жыл бұрын
oida sepp ;)
@ghfg4402
@ghfg4402 3 жыл бұрын
Lol Man 😂
@abraxas1983
@abraxas1983 2 жыл бұрын
oida Hansi
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 4 жыл бұрын
"Stand by for Sabaton references by the bucket load."
@drakoslayd
@drakoslayd 4 жыл бұрын
25:37 WHEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVE
@henrikg1388
@henrikg1388 4 жыл бұрын
@@drakoslayd I w-i-l-l resist, my preciousss ...THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!
@aaronbanfieldTCM
@aaronbanfieldTCM 4 жыл бұрын
It only takes 25 seconds to ARRIVE
@MDMetal
@MDMetal 4 жыл бұрын
*_THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!_* *_COMING DOWN THE MOUNTAINSIDE!!_* Ahhh, now I feel better! We Sabatonians have to do it. It's in our nature. 🤘😁🍺
@cloacky4409
@cloacky4409 4 жыл бұрын
ewww Sabaton
@Adam48
@Adam48 Жыл бұрын
This video was sooooo helpful for my presentation about the battle of Vienna, thank you so much
@maxmagnus3793
@maxmagnus3793 4 жыл бұрын
As an Austrian I've been eagerly awaiting this. Thanks!
@FieldMarshalYT
@FieldMarshalYT 4 жыл бұрын
@Egon Erwin Zwiebelkuchen I see you've been watching too much redpill KZbin.
@maxmagnus3793
@maxmagnus3793 4 жыл бұрын
@@FieldMarshalYT Thanks for the assist! Trolls so eager to ruin everything including military history with their politics
@piotrwojdelko1150
@piotrwojdelko1150 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Pole and sometimes this is interesting to see a different point of view of one battle .Probably this battle see differently Poles ,Austrian and Turkish
@burghardpeyfuss4623
@burghardpeyfuss4623 4 жыл бұрын
@Egon Erwin Zwiebelkuchen wenn es
@niedrichFrietzsche
@niedrichFrietzsche 4 жыл бұрын
@@FieldMarshalYT Vienna stopped building a monument for Sobiecki and the Winged Husars because of the turkish population.
@Thraim.
@Thraim. 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how the infantry did 80% of the work but it's the winged hussars who achieved memetic levels of praise.
@arthurreede4478
@arthurreede4478 4 жыл бұрын
But Rohan did answer and that was the most important thing ;)
@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they are very well known because of the meme i guess, they were important for sure but a lot of fighting was done by the Imperials / Germans.
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 4 жыл бұрын
@@SandRhomanHistory Maybe you could answer some of my comments?
@bakters
@bakters 4 жыл бұрын
"infantry did 80% of the work" You mean, the Turks were 80% broken already? 20% more infantry would secure the day, heh? In other words, the Hussars took the praise, because it was them who made the victory possible. Infantry can't annihilate infantry, only push them out. For total victory you need cavalry. For a decisive breakthrough, you need shock cavalry.
@gilmer3718
@gilmer3718 4 жыл бұрын
@@bakters Every time I see a video on this, most of them say the infantry was fought to a standstill. They did engage early, and they were winning, but the death blow came from the 18,000 (I have read as much as 30,000) cavalry from ALL the armies, spearheaded by 3,000 Winged Hussars. So, I am unsure why people think the Hussars get all the credit.
@Reignor99
@Reignor99 3 жыл бұрын
The battle for Minas Tirith in real life. Truly staggering
@MusicSaves89
@MusicSaves89 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. This is the battle of Helms deep. Siege of Belgrade in 1456 was Minas Tirith thing.
@toggid
@toggid 3 жыл бұрын
@@MusicSaves89 Did you read the books? It seems you have seen only the movies...
@aksmex2576
@aksmex2576 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if they took inspiration out of this battle. Also, the siege of Paris was broken by a relief army in 885 like this, though smaller.
@madkoala2130
@madkoala2130 2 жыл бұрын
@@MusicSaves89 Siege of Siget was the ispiration for Helms Deep (there it was played out with final charge of the defenders), secend siege of Wien was inspiration for Minas Tirith.
@matthaeusdecuiavia8637
@matthaeusdecuiavia8637 4 жыл бұрын
It was not mentioned in video, but Sobieski delayed his departue from Poland because the lithuanian forces that were supposed to reinforce king's army did not arrive on time. That's why Sobieski brought only half of the force from PLC he promised.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 4 жыл бұрын
The message has been sent! Austria calls for aid!
@gaolmiralis2247
@gaolmiralis2247 4 жыл бұрын
And Poland will answer!
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 4 жыл бұрын
Muster the Holy League !!!!!!
@pittnyc1
@pittnyc1 4 жыл бұрын
100 years later Austria betrayed Poland...
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 4 жыл бұрын
@@pittnyc1 .....everyone betrayed Poland at some point, even America. Its absolutely tragic.
@pittnyc1
@pittnyc1 4 жыл бұрын
@Somarik Green 1918 something about zaolzie
@Zzzron135
@Zzzron135 3 жыл бұрын
History: *Exists* Sabaton: Write that down, write that down!
@jonathanwells223
@jonathanwells223 3 жыл бұрын
Easier than writing stuff about dragons and beer I guess…
@psychodoxie6987
@psychodoxie6987 5 ай бұрын
​@@jonathanwells223History is cooler than fiction except if its warhammer
@119winters5
@119winters5 4 жыл бұрын
Clicked on the notification faster than the Habsburg reinforcement
@Barwasser
@Barwasser 4 жыл бұрын
You could write this comment in weeks and still be correct :D
@KingofEuropa07
@KingofEuropa07 4 жыл бұрын
That's not that fast
@erichreinholtz
@erichreinholtz 3 жыл бұрын
that's not saying much lol
@uberjoe-08
@uberjoe-08 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🔥
@henrypaleveda7760
@henrypaleveda7760 3 жыл бұрын
that's not a high bar
@yt_krg
@yt_krg 4 жыл бұрын
did the winged hussars arrive yet?
@bohunbohun6679
@bohunbohun6679 4 жыл бұрын
1605 yers Kircholm 3000 Polisch and Lituanian husars vs 13000 Sweden Victory Poland and Lituanian. 1610 yers Kluszyno 2700 Polisch husars vs 35000 Rusian and Sweden Victory Poland. Polisch and Lituanian husars the best cavalry in the World.
@karlquenzer8194
@karlquenzer8194 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. They arrieved on the tick to plunder ottomans camp when the fighting was allready done.
@karlquenzer8194
@karlquenzer8194 3 жыл бұрын
In the minds of poles, this is the bravest moment in polish history.
@teemuvesala9575
@teemuvesala9575 3 жыл бұрын
@@karlquenzer8194 As if Ottomans did not plunder their opponents as well lol. Someone sounds butthurt.
@another_random
@another_random 3 жыл бұрын
@@bohunbohun6679 no cavalry is tougher then the steppe people
@kourtourafi
@kourtourafi 3 жыл бұрын
Siege of Vienna, 1529... Sultan Suleiman: "In two weeks, I'll be having breakfast in your cathedral"... The day came and... passed: letter from Viennese: "ARE YOU COMING? YOUR BREAKFAST IS GETTING COLD"... Now, that's some world-class taunting...
@umuqn1260
@umuqn1260 3 жыл бұрын
Some goes to the british general who thought he would have his afternoon tea in istanbul
@jakubjary9052
@jakubjary9052 3 жыл бұрын
@@umuqn1260 But he had it :D
@umuqn1260
@umuqn1260 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakubjary9052 treaty of lousanne begs to tells otherwise😉
@umuqn1260
@umuqn1260 3 жыл бұрын
@The one and only what is proper? It is called istanbul now. We are not living in 1800s
@discipleofdagon8195
@discipleofdagon8195 9 ай бұрын
@@umuqn1260 he had it in a nice cafe overlooking the Suez instead
@MatthewMcRowan
@MatthewMcRowan 4 жыл бұрын
this was one of the most important battles in last 500 years
@pinkpenzu
@pinkpenzu 4 жыл бұрын
Eh doubt it. Its more of a meme with the hussars and all that
@randomhistory788
@randomhistory788 4 жыл бұрын
Nope Zenta was more decisive
@Mr.Bobcat1776
@Mr.Bobcat1776 4 жыл бұрын
@@pinkpenzu stopping the Ottomans cold in their tracks, no big deal or nothing.
@lawrencemorris2261
@lawrencemorris2261 4 жыл бұрын
@@pinkpenzu yup, it's got to the point where simpletons are just calling anything they don't like a meme, oh well
@laurapendosa4967
@laurapendosa4967 3 жыл бұрын
@@pinkpenzu Halting the expansion of the Ottoman Empire and the Islamofication of Europe is a really big thing.
@bowrudder899
@bowrudder899 4 жыл бұрын
I am enjoying this with a cup of coffee. Thank you, Poland!
@joelspringman7748
@joelspringman7748 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@marleegould542
@marleegould542 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I have seen that goes in depth into the siege. Very well done, thank you!
@phiszabo2
@phiszabo2 4 жыл бұрын
Loved it. I've studied this siege. Watched several videos. Heard many perspectives. Your compilation of info into a full documentary is a great success. You did that in a half hour production! Cheers! Thanks
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea 4 жыл бұрын
Kara Mustafa Pasha gets letter from the Sultan. Letter reads: "You have failed me for the last time" Kara Mustafa then force chokes to death
@lukemcinerny8220
@lukemcinerny8220 4 жыл бұрын
How very dare you sir To compare Lord Vader to such a savage its blasphemy lol
@ShahjahanMasood
@ShahjahanMasood 4 жыл бұрын
If the Ottoman Sultan is Darth Vader, then who is Obi wan?
@theguybehindyou4762
@theguybehindyou4762 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShahjahanMasood Emperor Constantine?
@walterweiss7124
@walterweiss7124 3 жыл бұрын
ws kind of seppuku, very honourable
@edelweiss2971
@edelweiss2971 3 жыл бұрын
Not at all. Kara Mustafa Pasha and the Sultan where lovers and had a wonderful time in Bed together that night..
@barahng
@barahng 3 жыл бұрын
"And then strangled him with a silk string" *Cheerful aspirational music starts playing* Made me laugh
@JelleTheTunes
@JelleTheTunes 4 ай бұрын
29:40 for anyone searching for it
@a.h.s.3006
@a.h.s.3006 4 жыл бұрын
9:00 Lord of the Rings reference, now please allow me to indulge myself. Edit -> Kara Mustafa: Together, my Sultan Mehmed, we shall rule this Europe. The old world will burn in the fires of Janissaries. Castles will fall. A new order will rise. We will drive the machine of war with the sword and the spear and the iron fist of the Ottomans. Ottomans: One does not simply walk into Vienna. Leopold: *Asks for help* Von Starhemberg: If by my life or death I can protect you, I will. You have my sword... Duke of Lorraine: and you have my bow Rimpler: and my axe. Saxons: You carry the fate of us all, little one. If this is indeed the will of the Council, then Saxony will see it done. Duke of Lorraine: A red sun rises, blood has been spilled this night. Edit -> Kara Mustafa: A new power is rising. Its victory is at hand. This night the land will be stained with the blood of Austria. March to Vienna. Leave none alive. To war! Rimpler: Lorraine! Two already! Duke of Lorraine: I'm on seventeen! Jan Sobieski: Arise, arise, My Winged Hussars! spear shall be shaken, shield shall be splintered, a sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises! Ride now, ride now, ride! Ride for Vienna and the world's ending! Death! Death! Death! Forth Husaria! Changed order -> Kara Mustafa: My precious!!!! Edit: I am taking notes from the replies, if you have anything to add, do add it below.
@nirfz
@nirfz 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure where i read it, but someone somewhere claimed that Tolkien actually took the siege of vienna as inspiration for the siege of Minas Tirith.
@a.h.s.3006
@a.h.s.3006 4 жыл бұрын
@@nirfz Tolkien takes inspiration from a lot of historical/mythological events, I wouldn't be surprised if he had inspiration from this battle too.
@RoyontheHill
@RoyontheHill 4 жыл бұрын
You didn't have to do Mustafa like that
@ricardodemarco3486
@ricardodemarco3486 4 жыл бұрын
Change the last "Hussars" for a more correct and polish "Husaria" to match the Eorlingas instead of rohirrim, and I shall make a paint of this comment to hang from my bedroom wall.
@riccardos2955
@riccardos2955 4 жыл бұрын
@Abu Troll al cockroachistan And still Orks they are even in 2020.
@FieldMarshalRommel23
@FieldMarshalRommel23 Жыл бұрын
King Sobieski, hero of Europa. God bless our Polish brothers from Ireland. We have a lot of Poles here and we get on so well our children are indistinguishable.
@CrunchyNorbert
@CrunchyNorbert 4 жыл бұрын
I like how your guys walk funny
@22vx
@22vx 4 жыл бұрын
ikr that's the best thing
@Norseraider84
@Norseraider84 4 жыл бұрын
They walked like that back in the Renaissance
@MothaLuva
@MothaLuva 3 жыл бұрын
They almost Walk Like An Egyptian.
@pineapplepenumbra
@pineapplepenumbra 3 жыл бұрын
@@Norseraider84 Damn, you beat me to it.
@MrKrumpetz
@MrKrumpetz 3 жыл бұрын
I like how your momma walk funny.
@justincastillo9345
@justincastillo9345 4 жыл бұрын
WE REMEMBER IN SEPTEMBER WHEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!
@madskillz8177
@madskillz8177 4 жыл бұрын
@Rabbit 1000a they died, but not from laugher
@HoH
@HoH 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, thanks for this!
@frederickhoffman853
@frederickhoffman853 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic content! Your academic rigor and focus on the Early Modern Era certainly fills a void. I only realized (thanks to your crediting historians) that one of my favorite books is from Christopher Duffy - "Siege Warfare". I haven't read the other historians you mention, but I can recommend Duffy as being as entertaining as your videos. Mentioning sources really separates "wheat from chaff" in history KZbin videos; it respects the "shoulders of giants" that spent lifetimes bent over the primary sources so we can be informed and entertained at our leisure.
@mario_1683
@mario_1683 4 жыл бұрын
Love this video! Especially because its about my homeland, Austria.
@benjaminloyd6056
@benjaminloyd6056 3 жыл бұрын
"And the Winged Hussars...were kinda late, actually."
@bravomike4734
@bravomike4734 3 жыл бұрын
They do not arrive early or late. They arrive exactly when they mean to.
@oguzkaganonder1331
@oguzkaganonder1331 Жыл бұрын
@@bravomike4734 nope winged hussars literaly did nothing lmao watch the video, İmperial army did it all as ı see here
@extrage3061
@extrage3061 10 ай бұрын
@@oguzkaganonder1331 40 Thousand Imperial Soldiers wouldn't be able to singehandedly defeat all of the Turks alone, in war it's not always about dealing physical damage but also to deal with fear. The Winged hussars charge made the defenders of Vienna inspired and instilled fear into the ottomans which made them run. Also there was Polish infantry there...
@discipleofdagon8195
@discipleofdagon8195 9 ай бұрын
@@oguzkaganonder1331 Its a LOTR reference, quit being stinky
@Locutuss85
@Locutuss85 5 ай бұрын
@@extrage3061 gdyby dało się cofnąć czas i namówić Sobieskiego aby nie pomagał helmutom. Jestem ciekaw jak ładnie by chodzili na łańcuchach u Turków
@creepercz-cf5cu
@creepercz-cf5cu 4 жыл бұрын
9:00 really? Did you seriously do that reference? Well played. *salutes in proudness*
@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 4 жыл бұрын
:)
@cukrux8376
@cukrux8376 3 жыл бұрын
What's the reference?
@hansvonmannschaft9062
@hansvonmannschaft9062 3 жыл бұрын
@@cukrux8376 Lord of the Rings: - (Messenger) The beacons are lit, Gondor calls for help! - (Theoden) *_And Rohan will answer._* Muster the Rohirrim...
@smokingsnake8276
@smokingsnake8276 3 жыл бұрын
Thought it was a Sabaton reference
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Gives a holistic view of the whole battle, not just that one epic arrival. I especially appreciate the inclusion of the story of Jerzy Franciszek Kulczycki, even though you butchered the name a bit. ;D It would be also great to see a similar video (or two) about the battles of Chocim / Khotyn (Хотин) in 1621 and 1673, especially the first one, they deserve to get more attention in my opinion.
@bakters
@bakters 4 жыл бұрын
Especially the episode, when several banners of Hussars and ritters swept the whole Turkish army off the field. The marshall himself couldn't believe in this success, so he forbade the pursuit, fearing it's a ruse. The day when the flower of Turkish youth died, as they later wrote.
@aleksandersokal5279
@aleksandersokal5279 4 жыл бұрын
@@bakters To be exact it was 3,000 Polish Winged Hussars, 8,000 Polish Pancerny Cavalry, 2,400 Polish Light Cavalry, 500 Polish Arquebusiers and about 5,000 Imperial and German Cavalry that made the decisive charge (at Vienna).
@bakters
@bakters 4 жыл бұрын
@@aleksandersokal5279 I wrote about a different battle. Artur mentioned he'd be glad to watch a documentary about the Battle of Khotyn, so I recalled an incredibly successful charge which took place there. The Turks tried to scare the defenders, so they made a show of force right before the sunset, and took all of their army into the field. Chodkiewicz decided to send a few banners out, probably just to prevent the loss of morale, but it all went so well, that the Turks were routed off the field. The route was never fully exploited, because Chodkiewicz suspected it was a trick of sorts. It was getting dark anyway.
@aleksandersokal5279
@aleksandersokal5279 4 жыл бұрын
@@bakters There were two great Polish victories at Chocim, one in 1621 and another in 1673. Both involved charges of Polish cavalry including the Winged Hussars. The one you are talking was in 1621, which could have been far more decisive for the Polish side if Chodkiewicz was given more freedom in command and his sub-commanders did not worry as much about the outcome. The exact action you are talking about was when about 20,000 Siphasi cavalry and Janissaries were advancing on the Polish positions and Chodkiewicz responded by sending about 1,000 Winged Hussars, which resulted in the rout of the Ottoman assault.
@bakters
@bakters 4 жыл бұрын
@@aleksandersokal5279 "could have been far more decisive [...] did not worry as much about the outcome" Easy to say, isn't it? For all they knew about warfare, it looked very suspicious. I do not blame them one bit for staying cautious. What if it really *was* a trap? Anyway, Sikora writes it was Chodkiewicz's decision. "Chodkiewicz responded by sending about 1,000 Winged Hussars" You are wrong on that. While I don't remember the exact number of troops which took part in this action, I do remember that the brunt of the Turkish attack was born by the reiters. They had it rough for a while, so it wasn't just Hussars. And that the total number was smaller than what you say here. 4 or 5 banners? That's like 400 in total, if you merely include the customary "ghost portions"? Closer to that, I guess. Oh, I think Sikora discussed the force disproportion, I just recalled that. I think he claimed it was 48:1? Damn, It bugs me I don't remember. I have the books on another hard drive, but I recently lent the whole computer to someone, so I can't easily check what the research says.
@donaustadt
@donaustadt 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Vienna and 1683 is of course a very important part of our city's history. It is a real pleasure to watch such a well-researched and highly dramatic documentary. It would be great if you could also do a video of the lesser known first siege of 1529.
@gokhancelik2934
@gokhancelik2934 2 жыл бұрын
Az ama en önemlisi oydu ilk kuşatma başarılı olsaydı suan baska bır dünya vardı
@SAMMYJR00777
@SAMMYJR00777 2 жыл бұрын
@@gokhancelik2934 if but talks hahahha ulan
@Harrier_DuBois
@Harrier_DuBois 4 жыл бұрын
This channel has great artwork in the videos, it gives us a much better idea of what happened compared to just maps like other channels. Excellent work SandRhoman History!
@tonysullivan9064
@tonysullivan9064 3 жыл бұрын
After Vienna the Ottomans had their eyes on Rome. This was a Pivotal period of time in Western Europe history. It stopped the western expansion of Islam. I have Much Love for the Polish People and the Winged Hussars. T$
@pederlettstroem980
@pederlettstroem980 3 жыл бұрын
And why did terrible Usama Bin Laden attack New York the same day 11th of September? Well done The Holy League and The Polish-Lithuanian troups under The European saveour King Sobieski and the legendary The Winged Hussars.
@jakubjary9052
@jakubjary9052 3 жыл бұрын
@@pederlettstroem980 Because the 11 of september is officaly(by hisstory) date which means fall of ottoman empires and stop spread islam. Bin Laden took this date because of symbolism.
@05KAR
@05KAR 3 жыл бұрын
Poland made a mistake to help its German enemies and paid a price for that. Austria deserves to be ruled by the Turks.
@gordistador
@gordistador 3 жыл бұрын
@@05KAR Sure thing, Turk.
@azizbey4334
@azizbey4334 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakubjary9052 well that's a fucking lie,they didn't officially fall till November of 1924.
@daveyrich89
@daveyrich89 3 жыл бұрын
Love this and similar channels that do long format historical documentary style videos. Thanks for all the time, research, and video editing you do to bring us great content.
@stanpski5442
@stanpski5442 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great presentation. And congratulation on almost perfect pronunciation of foreign names.
@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@Hellygator
@Hellygator 4 жыл бұрын
"Oida, i am not going again." ha ha ha ha! Being from Vienna i appreciate that statement ;)
@billybob8257
@billybob8257 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t get it
@jonasgrunberger3381
@jonasgrunberger3381 3 жыл бұрын
@@billybob8257 Oida is an old austrian therm that you can describe as: dude in this particular sentence it is more like,: Hell no, i am not going again.
@ghfg4402
@ghfg4402 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonasgrunberger3381 so funny 🤣😂 This is the best thing about the video
@CaravanCzar
@CaravanCzar Жыл бұрын
Then the Winged Hussars arrived! Coming down the mountainside! Then the Winged Hussars arrived! Coming down they turned the tide!
@darthwalrus4740
@darthwalrus4740 4 жыл бұрын
A thirty minutes long video? Thanks, this just made my day! Keep up the good work, I'm just about to start the video but I already know this will be good. :)
@yulusleonard985
@yulusleonard985 4 жыл бұрын
Winnged Hussar arrive Austrian Soldier: LEEEEEEROY JEEEEENKINS!!!!!!
@klatapirata
@klatapirata 4 жыл бұрын
ha ha, it's quite easy to imagine that :)
@haikaloronsentnel138
@haikaloronsentnel138 3 жыл бұрын
ISL4M!C B4RB4RIANS FLEE 0UT!!!
@elvenfellow8596
@elvenfellow8596 3 жыл бұрын
It's says I can translate this to English. Apparently those word arent English. It doesn't change it btw
@jonathanholland8133
@jonathanholland8133 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That was a great video of an amazing siege. A story worthy of a song...
@peerpede-p.
@peerpede-p. 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Poland, you saved us all from the scourge.
@richestmanintatooine7131
@richestmanintatooine7131 3 жыл бұрын
well at least you learned where to shit xD
@walterweiss7124
@walterweiss7124 3 жыл бұрын
Thank God and Saint Margareta Maria Alacoque first who prayed for this miracle to happen!
@walterweiss7124
@walterweiss7124 2 жыл бұрын
@Of Spear and Smoke get lost atheist nincompoop, you don't even know what the near future will be!
@ranyl7744
@ranyl7744 2 жыл бұрын
I think the people in vienna are the heroes. Sobieskis payment was that he revives the honor for the victory. Thats why everybody gives him so much credit. In reality most of the battle was done by the forces led by karl lothringen
@peerpede-p.
@peerpede-p. 2 жыл бұрын
@@ranyl7744 Well, we won and they lost, that's the important thing.
@DarkEmpireGames
@DarkEmpireGames 4 жыл бұрын
What an epic video, as always, thank you for your content!
@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear that! Thanks!
@DarkEmpireGames
@DarkEmpireGames 4 жыл бұрын
@@SandRhomanHistory I've learnt so much about the pike & shotte era which I barely ever knew about before thanks to your videos and for that I am genuinely thankful
@bernardotorres2532
@bernardotorres2532 3 жыл бұрын
The next time in my life when I am in a very difficult situation and I see no way out, I will say to myself , “where are my winged hussars ?”
@fenixglobtroter5922
@fenixglobtroter5922 3 жыл бұрын
After describing the situation of Vienna in such detail, I hoped for the same when describing the battle. It is a pity, because there is something to talk about, the Turks made serious mistakes in their preparations to repel the relief, as well as in the battle itself. Kara mustafa ignored the advisers' suggestions to fortify Kahlenberg Hill, from where they were later fired upon by Allied artillery. The Turks neither noticed nor ignored the 6 km long belt of the forming Polish cavalry. It is also worth adding that there were no Lithuanians for whom Sobieski was waiting, and finally he went without them, 10 thousand of them were already on their way to Krakow.
@SoulShadow69
@SoulShadow69 2 жыл бұрын
yes, i was surprised no one was talking about this...
@henryaybaz7409
@henryaybaz7409 2 жыл бұрын
Tatars were supposed to harass and hold Polish army when they were passing the bridge but they just watched doing nothing. Quarrel between Tatar Khan and Kara Mustafa lead to their doom. Kara Mustafa did not want to give Tatars any artillery pieces. Also they should have started the siege late April or Early May.
@Asterix958
@Asterix958 Жыл бұрын
​@@henryaybaz7409 Tatars harassed both Germans and Poles, capturing 20 captives and learning magnitude of relief army from them (they learned that it is 120.000). Main accusation toward Tatars is that they could stop relief army from crossing bridge over the Danube. They probably couldn't stop relief army, Tatar army is irregular force, only capable of scouting, skirmishing and raiding enemy territory.
@mikemancuso2526
@mikemancuso2526 4 жыл бұрын
Dziekuje Polska! Thank you Poland! Greetings from Canada.
@waldemarrygao8642
@waldemarrygao8642 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomasz9869 How they thanked us later? Assholes!
@rickyyacine4818
@rickyyacine4818 3 жыл бұрын
@@waldemarrygao8642 sad 😢😢
@fanatykhistorii429
@fanatykhistorii429 3 жыл бұрын
ok thank you znasz Polski?
@sanitarycockroach9038
@sanitarycockroach9038 3 жыл бұрын
The brave relief army infantry did a lot of the brunt work, and the winged hussars delivered the coup de grâce. And no one can ignore the determined defenders of Vienna herself. A tragic, yet poetic event.
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 4 жыл бұрын
This may not be the right channel for that, but an overview of the Turkish incursions into Styria and Carinthia as well as the hinterlands of Vienna during both Sieges of Vienna would be pretty awesome.
@Berzelmayr
@Berzelmayr 4 жыл бұрын
I was reading Syria in the first moment.
@torikeqi8710
@torikeqi8710 3 жыл бұрын
Ottoman incursions, not turkish. Ottoman army and administration was made of different people. Albanians made in large the army and administration for example. You also had bosniaks and georgians later on.
@kusturucu1015
@kusturucu1015 3 жыл бұрын
​@@torikeqi8710 And their masters were Turks, its still a Turkish empire
@Asterix958
@Asterix958 3 жыл бұрын
@@kusturucu1015 This is Empire not national state. Ottoman Sultans never defined himself as Turk Sultan or Turk Khagan. They always said they are Caliph of Muslims. Ottoman's code is religion not race. Ottoman subject must be Muslim in order to be official (trainee to Grand Vizier) in Ottoman Empire. First Ottoman Sultan that praise Turks is 34th Sultan Abdülhamit 2 (1876-1909) because only Turks and some Muslim subject remained to obey Ottoman rule at this moment. Even Abdülhamit 2 wanted to make Arabic as official language. In Ottoman Empire, Turk means Anatolian peasant and Ottoman elite used Turk word as insult. Of course, Ottomans knew they are themselves Turks hereditarily but they thought themselves as superior to Turk populace.
@aksmex2576
@aksmex2576 3 жыл бұрын
@@torikeqi8710 majority of their army would have "conscripts". Poorely equipped, used for labour. That's why their numbers are always exaggerated as none combatants are always counted.
@antiantifa886
@antiantifa886 4 жыл бұрын
I was on the edge of my seat through this!
@sam74mumm
@sam74mumm 3 жыл бұрын
It´s astonishing how thrilling this video was although everybody already knows the outcome of that famous battle- Kudos for authors of this channel👍
@mr.c.3760
@mr.c.3760 4 жыл бұрын
I've been searching and searching for a good doc on the 1683 Siege of Vienna on youtube, my search is finally over!
@VLSMITH1000
@VLSMITH1000 3 жыл бұрын
If the Ottomans took over Vienna then they would not be the capital of great Classical music! Thank God for saving Vienna!
@davidbock6276
@davidbock6276 3 жыл бұрын
I think if they took it, a fucking huge alliance would form. The entire HRE would focus on the reconquest. I see no way the german princess would let the ottomans hold vienna.
@bourack004
@bourack004 3 жыл бұрын
Köçekçe Sascha Goetzel Borusan Istanbul Philharmonic Orchestra London BBC Prom ....Watch and listen to this..im sure you will more enjoy Turkish classic music than Beethoven and Mozart
@VLSMITH1000
@VLSMITH1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@bourack004 Don't make me laugh Turk!
@bourack004
@bourack004 3 жыл бұрын
@@VLSMITH1000 Did you listen? if you did not shut up.
@VLSMITH1000
@VLSMITH1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@bourack004 Jesus help you!
@editorrbr2107
@editorrbr2107 3 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely desperate race against time. Great video, man. Thank you.
@jacktarat
@jacktarat 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video very much. Great story telling and graphics. Also love your sources (I have some of the books too), especially Eickhoff is phantastic. Keep up the great work!
@caelestigladii
@caelestigladii 4 жыл бұрын
Patton: Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man. Defenders of Vienna: Hold my coffee.
@adamrawn2063
@adamrawn2063 4 жыл бұрын
"So you'll be in the first wave then, sir?" (gets shot)
@walterweiss7124
@walterweiss7124 3 жыл бұрын
we'll see what will be in another 250 years...
@Maridun50
@Maridun50 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this battle could have been Tolkien's inspiration for the siege of Minas Tirith? And the winged Hussars of Poland = the ridars of Rohan coming to their aid breaking the siege in the battle of Pelennor?
@captaindred342
@captaindred342 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. This and the previous siege of Vienna were both inspirations to him for that.
@demilung
@demilung 2 жыл бұрын
And somewhat similarly, the battle was won by the infantry army arriving by sea after Aragorn and his ghost army removed the pirate blockade, but everyone remembers the riders, even though they didn't scream "Death" upon seeing the size of the enemy army out of optimism
@demilung
@demilung 2 жыл бұрын
@Of Spear and Smoke Yes, I didn't say the ghosts were at the battle, the ghosts removed the Umbar blockade which allowed reinforcement from other regions of Gondor to arrive by ship.
@Maridun50
@Maridun50 2 жыл бұрын
@Of Spear and Smoke I am aware, that the Rohirrim were based on Anglo-Saxon culture. However the movies picture them more like the Vikings ...... But - I talk about the battle of Pelennor, where Rohirrim rides to the aid of Minas Tirith, who is surrounded by orcs, like Vienna was sieged by the muslims in 1683. Here jan Sobiesky broke the siege and prevented the muslim turks to take Vienna - thus turning the tide that finally drove the turks out of Europe. That is not an allegory - but it might have been what Tolkien was inspired of. Being a historian, he used inspiration from ww1, old Norse culture, Finnish folktales - and many other historic events. He also uses the Corsairs - which were islamic pirats from turkey and the Barbary-coast, who terrorised the Mediterranean and Atlantic oceans until mid-19.th century. So the Poles may be credited with saving Europe from becoming islamic. Thank you, Poland!
@vortac4995
@vortac4995 4 жыл бұрын
Vienna calls for aid And Poland will answer! THAT lotr reference I love this channel
@AwoudeX
@AwoudeX 4 жыл бұрын
ehm, have you considered that the rohan cavalry charge was based upon these events? Lotr is heavily based upon actual events in the 20th century too, so it's not a far stretch at all
@AlphaSections
@AlphaSections 4 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: Poland is a good ally!
@HingerlAlois
@HingerlAlois 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on how you define it, after all they weren’t very cheap, the treaty was pretty good for Poland. The Austrians paid a lot of money to Poland and if the Ottomans would have attacked Krakow the Austrians would’ve had to help the Poles.
@adaspaker8404
@adaspaker8404 4 жыл бұрын
@@HingerlAlois sorry but austria didnt paid Poland, austria get money from Pope Rome, austria today wellcome islam and austria isnt good ally, they take Poland with prussia and russia some time after
@adaspaker8404
@adaspaker8404 4 жыл бұрын
@You Nes So why Austria fight with islam? Austria should be Turkey
@aleksandersokal5279
@aleksandersokal5279 4 жыл бұрын
@@HingerlAlois Most of the costs were taken by the Polish treasury, though Papal and Austrian funds also were sent to the Poles. Do not forget Habsburg army was also subsidized by the money from the Pope, so you have no point here really.
@johanmikkael6903
@johanmikkael6903 4 жыл бұрын
@@adaspaker8404 sorry but you lost soo you can't have Austria
@wiictvchannel1112
@wiictvchannel1112 3 жыл бұрын
I can't say it enough, love your style so much.
@richardgonzalez6409
@richardgonzalez6409 4 жыл бұрын
i know the story, ive seen many versions of it, i still click as if it was the first time i have heard of it.
@HingerlAlois
@HingerlAlois 4 жыл бұрын
Austria also signed defensive treaties with other German states of the Holy Roman Empire for example Bavaria and Saxony. It first signed the defensive treaty (against France and the Ottomans) with the Electorate of Bavaria on 26.01.1683. On 31.03.1683 Austria signed the treaty with Poland. The Elector of Bavaria Maximilian Emanuel II. came to the help of the Austrians during the Siege of Vienna with round about 11.000 Bavarian troops. The Bavarian Army as a standing army was founded in 1682 (with 7 regiments of infantry, 2 regiments of dragoons, 4 regiments of heavy cavalry and an artillery corps). Maximilian Emanuel II. supported the war against the Ottomans also in the following years with tens of thousands of Bavarian troops and commanded the HRE troops when they conquered Belgrade in 1688. He then had to redeploy his troops against France due to the start of the Nine Years War, which lasted from 1688 to 1697.
@gilmer3718
@gilmer3718 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, a lot of German states sent infantry, and Bavaria sent a lot. Franconia, Swabia, Saxony, Baden, Hesse-Darmstadt (if I get these names wrong, please forgive me and correct where needed).
@HingerlAlois
@HingerlAlois 4 жыл бұрын
Gilmer They sent a mix of infantry and cavalry. Together the German states sent circa 21.500 infantry and 7.500 cavalry. They also sent some cannons, but I think most of them didn’t reach the battlefield due to the rough terrain.
@bernardotorres2532
@bernardotorres2532 3 жыл бұрын
What a good, good video, the spoken content was excellent, and the graphic one was also, soo good.
@Anarchizer
@Anarchizer 3 жыл бұрын
"Vienna calls for aid" "Muster the Rohirr... I mean mobilise the Hussars!"
@mennorach
@mennorach 4 жыл бұрын
Something should also be said about the imperial army that, after marching two days through a forest without provisions, just stormed through the janissaries and then stopped to wait for the hussars to arrive.
@oldrabbit8290
@oldrabbit8290 4 жыл бұрын
well, the Ottoman were also low in provision, and had been fighting non-stop for months.. they were not in the ideal condition either..
@mennorach
@mennorach 4 жыл бұрын
@@oldrabbit8290 Well.. Even when neither side had ideal conditions it should still be impressive that the imperial army beat the Ottomans elite troops and drove them from defended positions. The hussars were impressive, but the imperial army definitely proved that european armies were just as good as the ottomans were supposed to be.
@swietoslaw
@swietoslaw 4 жыл бұрын
@@mennorach And that why they waited for Polish army? ;)
@mennorach
@mennorach 4 жыл бұрын
@@swietoslaw That sounds like a reasonable assumption. Discipline is important and it might have looked bad to try to finish a battle before the guy you asked to help and lead even has a chance to participate.
@swietoslaw
@swietoslaw 4 жыл бұрын
@@mennorach Right, not becasue Polish forces made deciding blow
@liamimbriolo6066
@liamimbriolo6066 4 жыл бұрын
THE CHAD WINGED HUSSARS VS THE VIRGIN JANISSARIES
@DM-dy9bq
@DM-dy9bq 4 жыл бұрын
And the winged bois did it again in Parkany. Caught by surprised, overwhelmed, still won. What a chad.
@randomblacktemplar738
@randomblacktemplar738 4 жыл бұрын
What would you expect from Turkish praetorian guard?
@liamimbriolo6066
@liamimbriolo6066 4 жыл бұрын
@@randomblacktemplar738 bunch of traitors, taken by a conquering empire to be used as the shock troops and administrators upon the very people they came from
@randomblacktemplar738
@randomblacktemplar738 4 жыл бұрын
@@ofsabir you mean half of Mediterranean
@angrymonkeynoises
@angrymonkeynoises 4 жыл бұрын
>Polish >Chad
@CZiNTrPT
@CZiNTrPT 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, after living in this city, I finally understand so much! Also "oida, I'm not going out again" got me pretty good. Servus, habidehre!
@walterweiss7124
@walterweiss7124 3 жыл бұрын
aber der Tschuschn ko gehn
@davidnicolas8019
@davidnicolas8019 3 жыл бұрын
That was an amazing presentation. Bravo
@memofromessex
@memofromessex 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Not knowing much about this, I had always believed it was just the Winged Hussars who saved Vienna and never knew about the Duke of Lorraine.
@Bialy_1
@Bialy_1 4 жыл бұрын
Few more decades and there will be no Polish King or Winged Hussars in this story... just wait.
@TheBarser
@TheBarser 4 жыл бұрын
That is what the Poles would like us all to think.
@thattotalwarguy7911
@thattotalwarguy7911 3 жыл бұрын
@Alenas Kvasninas they hadn't. they took over zaolzie as it was disputed between poland and the czechs for some time. beyond that, the area had a significant polish population. and even after the war, the czechs got it back anyhow
@annas3011
@annas3011 4 жыл бұрын
" IMPOSSIBLE? LEAVE THIS TO THE POLES ! - Napoleon "
@Ask_a_Martyr
@Ask_a_Martyr 4 жыл бұрын
*I DON'T Understand!!!! WiLL YOU ExPLain????*
@jacek2481
@jacek2481 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ask_a_Martyr During the battle of Samosierra in 1808 Napoleon Bonaparte said the words "Leave it to the Poles. Nothing is impossible for them". These words regarded a very risky charge during the battle. Of course, the Poles ended the charge with a success.
@INecr0
@INecr0 3 жыл бұрын
"800 Poles equals 8,000 enemy soldiers. Nothing can stop my Poles!" - Napoleon
@ratatoskr1069
@ratatoskr1069 3 жыл бұрын
That´s why he was called naPOLEon!
@SoleNero21
@SoleNero21 3 жыл бұрын
@@INecr0 well you gotta pump up those fools somehow if you want them to die for you.
@kutu429
@kutu429 3 жыл бұрын
I keep thinking how overpowered hand grenades or mortar shells would be in the old times, it turns out people had much more creative ideas and did the unthinkable. I never knew they dug trenches to reach the second wall or used miners to go under the castle. Great content. Thank you
@HingerlAlois
@HingerlAlois 3 жыл бұрын
They used hand grenades back in 1683, of course not modern hand grenades, but for example they had hand grenades made out of glas filled with explosives. sammlung.wienmuseum.at/objekt/340191-handgranate/
@TheThingInMySink
@TheThingInMySink 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you'll do a video about the first siege as well, everyone knows about the second siege but the first one is somewhat forgotten in comparison.
@Original50
@Original50 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Monty Python animations! Great walk-through of the battle.
@stefantrethan
@stefantrethan 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thank you. Sadly, the sieges of Vienna were reduced to no more than a few boring sentences in history class so I knew very little, although many place names still reflect the ancient defensive works that lie beneath.
@dumdebadaba
@dumdebadaba 4 жыл бұрын
There is an old inscription in the National Museum in Vienna: "The punishment for our sins is the Turk!" I forget what it was: a plaque, a medal? However, the moral is clear. A historic lesson already forgotten in Western Europe. So they will have to learn it again. And again. History is the teacher of the nations, whether they like it or not.
@monarchist2486
@monarchist2486 4 жыл бұрын
Based
@haikaloronsentnel138
@haikaloronsentnel138 3 жыл бұрын
F4KE PR0PHET M0H4MMED F0LL0WER IS S0URCE 0F S!N!!!
@theluckyegg3613
@theluckyegg3613 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@Just_Adrian_
@Just_Adrian_ 3 жыл бұрын
This story always makes me proud of my country
@Rol-E-Roll-da_real_1
@Rol-E-Roll-da_real_1 2 жыл бұрын
15:06 "OIDA" Detected! Thank you for adding this tiny bit of viennese slang in your video. Its like an easter egg in a marvel film :)
@youcefaoufi6182
@youcefaoufi6182 Жыл бұрын
in 9:17 of the video there is an error that show the hole problem between the west and islam : the narrator changed an "or" with an "and" .
@chress98
@chress98 4 жыл бұрын
15:05 "Oida, I'm not going again" Chapeau 👍
@zanderg5155
@zanderg5155 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched a number of your videos now and I am endlessly entertained by the screw that is being hammered into place.
@chemicalman53
@chemicalman53 2 жыл бұрын
Rewatching this I realize the cooperation between Emperor Leopold and King Sobieski was even closer then I first thought. Emperor Leopold ceded overall command to Sobieski, but on the eve of battle Sobieski went with Leopold's plan. This flexibility must have trickled down and allowed the coalition of armies to work together as the did during the battle.
@DieKotkuchl
@DieKotkuchl 3 жыл бұрын
"Oida, i'm not going again." That one had me good :D
@huibertlandzaat1889
@huibertlandzaat1889 5 ай бұрын
Nice explination. Thank you for uploading,
@Sagittarius-A-Star
@Sagittarius-A-Star 3 жыл бұрын
I live about 100 Meters from the place where Kara Mustafas tent was standing - your map is quite accurate, respect! (The silk string served him right...)
@HingerlAlois
@HingerlAlois 4 жыл бұрын
The cavalry charge involved around 18.000 soldiers (~12.000 Polish and ~6.000 German/Austrian), only 3.000 of them were Winged Hussars...
@charleshamilton1291
@charleshamilton1291 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but he has to appease Sabaton's fanboys otherwise his video would have been disliked into oblivion by their army of 12 year old fans
@chainehistoire7616
@chainehistoire7616 4 жыл бұрын
@@charleshamilton1291 12 year or 50?
@_DarkEmperor
@_DarkEmperor 4 жыл бұрын
@@chainehistoire7616 YES
@MatthewMcRowan
@MatthewMcRowan 4 жыл бұрын
3000 of them could probably beat the other 15000 in a combat
@HingerlAlois
@HingerlAlois 4 жыл бұрын
FUMER No they couldn’t. They would be massacred. Sobieski and a force of circa 5.000 Polish cavalry were defeated by Ottoman cavalry only one month after the Battle of Vienna... They suffered around 1.000 casualties before they had escaped to the safety of the Imperial army, which had been a couple of kilometers away.
@unusualbydefault
@unusualbydefault 3 жыл бұрын
"Oida, I'm not going again" I see, someone did some proper research on viennese :) love it, great video
@thethreeedgedsword7253
@thethreeedgedsword7253 4 жыл бұрын
Oh god, the flux, and all the horrible poop sounds...admit it, you thoroughly enjoyed editing that part
@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 4 жыл бұрын
:P
@thethreeedgedsword7253
@thethreeedgedsword7253 4 жыл бұрын
SandRhoman History good sir, would you ever consider making a video on the Siege of Suiyang? (757 CE I think) probably one of the most epic examples of why you don’t want to be stuck in a city when it’s under siege. Thank you for all your content, nothing helps my day like binging on history videos:)
@Freelocybin
@Freelocybin 3 жыл бұрын
@@SandRhomanHistory This was by far the best animation for fatal bloody diarrhea I have ever seen. I subscribed immediately.
@walterweiss7124
@walterweiss7124 3 жыл бұрын
@@thethreeedgedsword7253 many wars were decided by diseases: for instance 430BC when pleague broke out in Athens during the Spartan siege
@ReviveHF
@ReviveHF 4 жыл бұрын
At 25:49, this is a brilliant tactic. Sun Tzu said: "Attack when the enemy never suspected, taking the enemies off guard by surprise(攻其無備、出其不意)“. In 1939 German invasion of France and 1991 Gulf War, this tactic proved it's worth again and again. This video is way more interesting than the actual 2012 movie lol.
@hannibalburgers477
@hannibalburgers477 2 жыл бұрын
Sun Tzu: "When in war, try to defeat enemy." Such a wise man
@jaywilliams720
@jaywilliams720 Жыл бұрын
@@hannibalburgers477 "only attack when you suspect you might win"
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