THE STAND CBS SERIES REVIEW 2020 | Double Toasted

[@ChuckD008]

I'll never stop laughing at how Amber Heard is Nadine, talk about foresight in casting lol. Someone in the casting room must've heard talk of how toxic she is & gave her the role.

[@jdgreen214]

Lol

[@biguy617]

She is Nadine? Oh screw this. I will just rewatch the original miniseries instead! The cast of Whoopi from the View as Mother Abigail is what pisses me off the most. I hate her. F this series!

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@johnavenger People kept spamming the comment sections of this new show wuth "Death To Amber Heard". Really got annoying after a while

[@stephennootens916]

One of the bad things I feel which the jumping around (I've only seen the first episode) is that a lot of impact of the deaths don't hit. Like with Fran's dad, in the book you get to know him and how close he is to his daughter so when he gets sick and she has to take care of him it hits hard, and his death burial is heart breaking. In the episode it just happens.

[@victoriaswift3633]

Agreed, even the buildup of the disease isn’t as effective. I wanted to see how the virus was spread. In this series, it just happens with back and forth scenes.

[@stephennootens916]

@@victoriaswift3633 You don't truly feel the epic horror of it and that crushing despair of watching the world slowly die. There is a section early on the novel were about the cop who picks up the virus from the guy who owned the gas station that the first guy crashes into, and shows how he passes it on to other people (King being him gives you enough detail about the other people so they are not just random faceless people) and than tells you about the people they pass the virus. He builds up to the massive down fall of the world, with the small tragic deaths of people and their loved ones making it all the more powerful and gut wrenching when you are dealing with the dead bodies rotting in houses and on the curbs as the world burns and madness takes over. It's the small personal things that make the epic parts all the more powerful.

[@victoriaswift3633]

@@stephennootens916 I would’ve loved to see that! It seems so rushed where things are just happening. The flash backs do not help at all bc I don’t even have time to process anything before we are back to 5 months later

[@brievalentino4745]

Even though the original miniseries may be way outdated, that first episode of the plague STILL gives me chills. With this, there is no catharsis. It’s very disconnected and trying to be edgy with the back-and-forth...I was really disappointed.

[@stephennootens916]

@@brievalentino4745 It doesn't feel as must watch for me this time around.

[@Octobre1986]

Martin looks like Uncle Phil.

[@shahidmirza1138]

I was about to say that lol.

[@ejenks1870]

It’s the ugly sweater

[@justin5002]

Keep waiting for him to throw Jazz out the front door.

[@SmartSmears]

4:25 Girts spotted, hanging with Nick Cage

[@artarealmblazer]

Girts had a great conniption over Star Wars lore in the Mandalorian breakdown.

[@coffeeNiK]

Always good to see a wild Grits!

[@jiga6832]

You have to watch the stream where him and Chris talk about Star wars it was great

[@Rtomasie]

@@jiga6832 got a link, or a date of the stream?

[@jiga6832]

@@Rtomasie go on Twitch Double toasted stream was on Monday 21/12/20

[@jansenart0]

Same thing with Morgan Freeman in the The Shawshank Redemption. Red was actually Irish-American. Keeping in the "Maybe it's because I'm Irish" went from a boring line to a great joke.

[@leob4403]

Yes it can work but it didn't work in this adaptation. Larry Underwood actor was completely flat the whole movie, its like he was afraid to emote anything, he was the worst casting choice among a bunch of them, Frannie was also miscast, trashcan man, Lloyd henreid etc

[@warhammerguy]

The morality in this story is like a Bioware morality system. You are either a paragon of human kindness or you kick bags of kittens for fun.

[@DAVESPEPSI]

Lmfao

[@fictionmyth]

Yeah... what idiot would say that kicking kittens is one of the "bad" things to do? Right? Hello... Why is everyone running away from me?

[@nolaanderson8770]

That's kindof the theme - the people on the opposite ends of the scale were left to represent good and evil, and the middle dies from the flu. There was some moral ambiguity on both sides, but still the definition is clear.

[@mordicus420]

I like kittens ...can I kick a baby instead?

[@battlion507]

@@nolaanderson8770 So the middle/gray morality is vaporised!?

[@ghost245353]

Nicolas Cage pillow in the background XD

[@damianstarks3338]

And it looks awesome.

[@Kayerickawall40]

jj

[@kloggmonkey]

not to mention the life-size girtz body pillow

[@dantefuture5839]

I thought I was the only one that notice

[@avalangrin4904]

They can laugh at the 1995 version all they want, but the CBS reboot is trash. I watched one episode and was so disappointed.

[@trouthousecomics]

They're vloggers and this is content. They get paid for clicks from people who want to watch. I stopped watching this version after episode one.

[@trouthousecomics]

@Mark Green they're vloggers...following and digesting that much pop culture to make reviews and content rots people's brains.

[@GregPivo87]

Whoopi Goldberg is Mother Abigail? Amber Heard as Nadine? Oof, this whole thing looks badly miscast.

[@grneys45]

I heard stephen king asked for whoopi specifically

[@maymay5600]

@@grneys45 but why heard?

[@grneys45]

@@maymay5600 who knows..

[@rusheena]

@@maymay5600 I believe she was involved with someone on the production team while the show was in talks. There's photos from a few years ago of them together kissing. That Umbrella Guy made a video about it.

[@jestincase2611]

I agree. What the fuck? To put whoopi in this role is way wrong.

[@acurry2323]

Y'all know Randall Flagg AKA The Walking dude is better known as the man in Black Walter one thing I do love is how Stephen King ties his universe together if anyone read The Dark Tower all the way through Roland and his click Ends up here for a while I wish he made away to tie that in to the new series

[@blankname6629]

The dark tower series is his lord of the rings not the stand.

[@theshed3641]

Not what king says

[@ameer781]

The stand is the precursor to the dark tower. You can think of the dark tower as the MCU and this is lord of the rings.

[@sesfilmsllc]

Tom Cullen in the 94 mini series was play by the same guy who voice Patrick star on SpongeBob. I’m not even joking!!!

[@stephennootens916]

Back than he was just that guy from the sitcom Couch.

[@zvimur]

@@stephennootens916 Coach?

[@gorillacookies3171]

M-O-O-N that spells Patrick star

[@milestrombley1466]

People: "New show! Amber Heard? F**k that!"

[@shan4680]

In the book, Randall Flagg had drug users crucified.

[@edithisaok580]

Yes, he did, and you could only have 3 beers /day, no more.

[@leob4403]

​@@edithisaok580yes this adaptation butchered so much from the book. It's so disrespectful honestly to take someone's work and not respect it's messages but twist it to suit your own agenda, it's disgusting frankly

[@RighteousGemz]

Jovan was the younger “Hooded Justice” in HBO’s Watchmen. Easily the best episode.

[@roccocasazza4145]

Great book, one of my favorites. I actually thought the ending was good because it was low key and kinda hilarious. The only bad part was the overly wordy part of Stu returning

[@FVD]

They should just get Frank Darabont to create a Stephen King Cinematic Universe. Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile and The Mist to a lesser extent, shows that the guy understands King. Get HIM to develop The Dark Tower TV series!!

[@stephensmith7327]

Mike Flanagan is another example, he did The Haunting of Hill House, Midnight Mass, Doctor Sleep, and Gerald's Game, so the man knows his King well enough to make stories that feel like Steven King Adaptations without actually being Adaptations.

[@leob4403]

They should have given Darabont a huge salary to save this Stand adaptation. The first few seasons of walking dead alone show he would have been the most capable person to work out the immense amount of problems with this adaptation

[@jaynefeeney]

Exactly!

[@boofdahpoo]

Agreed that Stephen King has a real problem with portraying Black people. IMO he also has a problem with female characters--not only in this book, but in some of his other writings as well. There's one novella he wrote in his 2010 Full Dark No Stars collection--the novella is titled Big Driver--where he stereotypes THE FUCK out of both lesbians and single unmarried women. For a self-purported "liberal" guy, he sure has some illiberal views on women in general. A lot of his female characters who aren't happily married homemaker types are portrayed as societal weirdos, which really rubs me the wrong way. He was even writing these characters in the 2010 collection! I mean, WTF? Most married moms these days AREN'T homemakers because families simply can't afford being single-income households. King really needs to read the times--and the room.

[@stephensmith7327]

He's a white liberal from the 60's, he can only go so far. At least he seems to be somewhat self aware in interviews.

[@leob4403]

Lucky he wrote his greatest works in a time when the woke police wouldn't have completely ruined it by forcing him to change his creative vision. You're the guy that would have told the Beatles that they need to change their lyrics. Check your ego and humble yourself

[@novadselir1068]

I love the original The Stand it's still a great though flawed series, I'm so happy I can share this updated remake with a modern generation.

[@CyberSpider35]

Book was original The Stand. :)

[@luvmenow33]

Exactally. And sadly, everytime the put a new version of The Stand out there, it ruins the story more and more. It was the best book I ever read. The 94 series was just ok in my eyes, somewhat enjoyable if you read the book before watching it and just wanted to see the story in TV form. However , if the Stand 94 miniseries is the only version of the story you know, it is awful and no comparison to the actual story. These guys say how great an adaption it is and I truly hope they are being sarcastic because if you've only ever seen the show and not read the book, you are doing yourself a terrible disservice and missing out on one of the greatest stories ever written IMO. As far is the new series is concerned, I'd really hate to comment on it without have seen the entire thing. But I can and will say a few quick things. From what I've seen so far, it is horrible miscast, and I MEAN HORRIBLY! Secondly, the jumping back and forth in time is confusing for me being someone who has read the book a ton and knows it inside out. I can't imagine how hard it is for someone who is watching it for the first time to follow. Dunno who's idea it was to do that but it was a bad one. I'll save the rest for after I see it all

[@leob4403]

​@@luvmenow33unfortunately the jumping back and forth wasn't even the biggest problem with this adaptation. The way the removed characters, and completely changed major story arcs, and like you said, the casting is a disaster. Frannie and Larry being the worst offenders with their completely flat acting. At least the Harold actor acted his heart out and tried to create a personality for his character. .

[@DiarraHarris]

It's funny how they said the old one was cheap considering it cost 28 million then(48 million now)one of if not the most expensive miniseries ever.

[@yawdaorb]

It depends on what they used the money for they could have wasted it in other areas and not put it into the CGI

[@vanessa662]

I know the '94 movie version is dated and that they didn't have great CGI but as far as storytelling, writing, etc. The movie version is still shaping up to be the best version of the book. The series' way of telling the story thru flashbacks is off-putting and in no way are you feeling concern, anxiety, etc. Another thing that is way better with the movie in comparison to the series is the complexity of each character and the misapprehensions of who is evil and who isn't. I really wanted to like the new series (because I am a big fan of the book and the '94 movies and Alexander Skarsgaard) but so far I am completely disillusioned!

[@leob4403]

Yeah they changed way too much. These fools think they can write better dialogue than Stephen King himself, the nerve and ego of these guys

[@Anthonycheesman33]

Okay can we never have this song chopped and screwed again dont wooorrrrrrryyyy lol.

[@LawrenceKassab]

I'm not defending the book only trying to give context, Randall Flagg is supposed to be Nearlahotep The Crawling Chaos. One of the characters from Lovecraft and his character turns people crazy as fuck

[@nl3064]

*Nyarlathotep.

[@LawrenceKassab]

@@nl3064 thank you, I corrected it .

[@yankee1376]

This version of flag is dumb as fuck. He hires morons. You'd think a psychic devil thing could tell the HAMS from the posers.

[@ameer781]

@@yankee1376 he always hires morons lol books and movies idk what you mean 🤣

[@stephensmith7327]

He's also The Man In Black from The Dark Tower. He's basically King's UBBERVILLAIN

[@Unworshipediety]

I don't know man but after the whole pandemic thing. People being baseless evil for the sake of being evil doesn't seem too far off of a plot to take seriously.

[@yankee1376]

The world ends but not the drugs and liquor.

[@stephensmith7327]

@@yankee1376 man, Booze was in the Old Testiment. Armageddon can come and Whiskey will still exist

[@yjp6684]

I read the book a while ago, and it's one of my favorites from King. I have always believed that a Dark Tower series on HBO max would have been so much better.

[@mattjones7226]

Yes. We have to erase that God awful movie from cinema.

[@DaneelGiskard-f8d]

I think it's BS how they made everyone in Vegas a cartoon villain. One of the most interesting things about the dark man's cult in the book is how normal and sometimes even pleasant their day to day lives usually were. They had kids who went to school and had happy childhoods and they actually treated Tom and Diana very well when they thought they were defectors. It was a layer of complexity that this series just didn't have.

[@kellykelley2649]

This book is one of his best - but - it can't translate - it is always horrible. ** Also, key factor - King writes terrifying books - but he is actually pretty corny and I say that with respect - I follow his Dog - Annie aka The Thing of Evil on Twitter - I don't think he sees his work the same way the majority of us do. Whenever he gets involved we get brightness and TV actors like the dude who played John Boy in The TV The Shining - he hated Kubrick's The Shining - so he got John Boy (OMG) and then he did it again - with the Wings actor... his vision just doesn't translate. I like horror writers but I am a Clive Barker girl. I respect and like to read some of his books .... but I don't like most of the films and TV he puts his hands on.

[@battlion507]

@Lando R And my OH SO FAVORITE: SLEEPWALKERS.

[@reverandrav]

Eh. No drugs. They crucified a guy for using cocaine.

[@leob4403]

Not in this stupid adaptation, here everyone in Las Vegas are drug addicts including Lloyd henreid who is presented as a cocaine addicted pimp character, complete HORSE SHIT, Im so mad at this adaptation

[@wtroupe64wt]

Martin with the beard 💯🧔🏾

[@AbiyahBanYasharahla]

gettin grown on us

[@vanessa662]

Randall Flagg is supposed to give you the hibby jibbies even before you are introduced to him later on. But the series version is way more comical, which is a shame. One of my favorite stephen king books, I was very hopeful for this series and so far.... not good

[@joshuaekstedt1810]

I cant believe they mishandled this adaptation as badly as they did. I've read the novel (recently) and I enjoyed it. It's not my favorite King novel, but it's a good story. The ending is definitely its biggest weakness. Just doesn't justify the buildup imo. The character development is definitely the novels biggest strength and this series definitely blew any sense of character development big time. Big budget, big name cast but fell completely flat. Wow. The curse of awful King adaptations continues. King pulls a George Lucas by continually trying to tweak a perfectly fine story. Epic fail!

[@leob4403]

Dude Stephen king is not to blame for botching the script for this 2020 adaptation. I think he was only involved in the last episode?

[@invertedname3099]

Bruh grew up in Maine. He probably didn’t meet a black person till his 30s

[@21stcenturyhiphop]

They never caught the guy who ran him over, maybe he was black 🤷

[@Sean-no3zv]

Yeah, what a racist jerk for growing up there. 🙄

[@brooklynnewyork23]

I think the "problem" is that King writes black characters for people just like that I suppose lol. Here they mentioned the black militant dudes in loincloths executing white people on TV in The Stand. That seems like a very scary thing for those kind of white people I guess... Its that whole helter skelter Manson family scenario. But aside from that King has a habit of making his black characters kind of boring or stereotypical but with a weird curiosity about them. They always have some kind of magical power that needs to be cultivated in some way. It's kind of a white guilt narrative, but low key, perpetuates a bit of condescension by doing that.

[@leob4403]

​​​@@brooklynnewyork23it's not true, he misremembers the book, there was never a black junta executing white people, it was one black dude and he was with other soldiers and they were executing all sorts of people not only whites And you woke lords would only be happy if he wrote black characters in the most generic, safe and neutered way imaginable, like Larry Underwood in this crap adaptation

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@leob4403Oh grow up

[@TheeJasonReyes]

And let me guess...this takes place in MAINE???

[@williamhiers1280]

Part of it.

[@GregPivo87]

And Colorado, and Las Vegas.

[@keychainere]

Not much.

[@rogersjgregory]

Flat is the word to describe this mess. Everything just falls flat. The story is complex and there are so many characters as it is, but then they jump around, showing scenes out of sequence, which makes it so much harder to follow. We don't get time to get to know characters, and there was no tension. We see them at Boulder in the safe zone, then show how they got there, and when they're in danger or something, it falls flat because we know they get there safely. So dumb. Such a wasted opportunity.

[@noneya3635]

It’s clear you don’t remember the book very well if you think that this version of Vegas is like it was in the book. Flagg wasn’t allowing drugs drinking etc. And ther people in Vegas were far better fleshed out than what you’re implying was in the2020 remake. Casting for 90’s was lacking, but at least they didn’t buttfuq the story for edginess sake.

[@leob4403]

Yeah they made Lloyd henreid and trashcan man into zoomer edgelords, screw this adaptation

[@chanelhenderson8460]

Idgaf ill be watching l loved the 1994 one 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@nevermindgaming6848]

Ew

[@chanelhenderson8460]

@@nevermindgaming6848 ok & what am I supposed to do with this information. Beat it ...

[@liamholleran2724]

If Martin only read this book in high school, he probably only read the original abridged version published in ‘78 (about 800 pages) which did not have the Bernie Wrightson illustrations or scenes such as Campion fleeing the base or the infamous black junta scene which are very much present in the 1150+ page uncut version that was published in 1990. Also the 1994 miniseries opened with a crow perching itself nearby the base when Captain Trips breaks out indicating Flagg may have triggered the virus to contaminate the base. P.S. As someone who only saw the first episode, it is weird seeing the Stu/Frannie coupling (22 year age gap) compared to the 1994 miniseries coupling of Gary Sinise and Molly Ringwald (13 year age gap) as they looked closer in age.

[@leob4403]

It was not a black junta. It was one black guy. It was never said in the book that it was a black junta killing white people.

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@leob4403 Yes it did

[@cabe3231]

Amber Heard should've been the Trashcan Man as she's just a big dumpster fire now. Merry Christmas, Everybody!

[@beckiejani7782]

Good one!

[@occularmalice]

I actually thought it was clever to have Flagg hold the door open to let Campion out and the virus into the world. In the original series they make it look like Campion makes it out by chance (busting through the gates with his car) and like you said in the book it was a malfunction. However I'm big on the sequential narrative. The way it jumps around does nothing and makes it more confusing. A properly sequenced version of this would be much better and let the characters grow and give you a slower burn to the events that unfold.

[@suzidunn7743]

I hate they cut Marilyn Manson as the trashman. Due 2 a schedule conflict

[@jonathanlebo3710]

Just started watching it and seriously considering watching the original instead

[@B.Alanyse]

Yeah I had no idea this was a thing but I loved the book and the ‘94 version.

[@sirlisterofsmeg333]

Gertz sighting!

[@erisbob]

This is 1 of the best analysis of the ministries & book I've seen. Thank you. Right on point.

[@Amazingsloth]

The showrunner has come out and said that Harold and Lloyd are the protagonists of the story (????).. so this is pretty doomed from that alone.

[@darrelljones3965]

Girts in the cut lol

[@jillkent1136]

The 1994 miniseries was truer to the book and better cast/adapted than the 2020 version. It will stand up to the test of time far batter than the big budget travesty that only helped to deepen the malaise and general sense of disappointment that was the hallmark of last year.

[@Michael-mt6yb]

My boy Girts!!!

[@Dobviews]

Sad excuse for a remake. They made it longer, told half the amount of story, jumped through the timeline so bad hard to tell what is going on, no character development. They didn't offer near as much on Mother Abigail or Trash and in the book and first series (94) it delves much deeper. Fail Army

[@leob4403]

These people should be put to court for abusing Kings work like this. The only one I will say something positive about is Owen Teague, he did the best Harold portrait he could with the crap they gave him, and Skarsgård was not terrible either

[@DjangoVonShaft]

I'm always confused on who the B microphone is on this show. Seems like a revolving door. Martin has valuable insights most of the time, but he seems to work around his own schedule.

[@lindalandry4849]

I really wonder how they made the decision to cast the most hated woman in Hollywood in this role.

[@johnbull1568]

It was just an all-round mistake to make it at all. There isn't a single casting choice that betters, or even matches the original, and it somehow has less character development despite being 3 hours longer. amongst many other issues.

[@tylerhackner9731]

Looking pretty good. I have a feeling I will like this show.

[@RalphJr-xp3hp]

Trust me they did this in the past and predicted somewhat of the year 2020 and it’s upcoming years 😂💯. It’s funny seeing the voice of Patrick Star having a supporting role in the original TV movie from the 90s.

[@Crabdoodles]

the guy who plays stu - every time i saw him on screen i was thinking "ah right. the guy from sonic the hedgehog"

[@arterialtribal]

I don't understand why Ezra Millers performance gets torn apart because of a single picture. Read the book. Trash is a total psychopath with moments of manic worship of the dark man. Trash dancing around like in a revival church, screaming "Cibola!" - it is all in the book! Even Matt Frewer in the first TV-series delivered this insane amount of euphoria and everybody was fine with it. It was a great performance too! So wait for Ezras appearance as Trash before critisizing his acting because of one damn picture. We will see how good or bad it is when he shows up!

[@leob4403]

It was really bad. And trashcan man was not a shrieking banshee in the book. He could communicate perfectly well with other people. His escape from The Kid shows he had his wits about him, and had enough social capabilities to know not to trigger The Kid into violence

[@mikechicago6200]

Marilyn Manson was supposed to be in this series but his role got cut! He was supposed to be the Kid so lame he was a cool character on the book!

[@bensneb360]

I had heard he was cast as trashcan man, which I guess was wrong, but that’s disappointing because he would been perfect

[@Jaded_Jester]

Ed Harris's eyes still haunt me from the '94 movie. Yeah, it didn't age well.... but I still like it!!

[@jilllingle5295]

Jane Doe Ed Harris was not in the original mini series, was he?

[@roedhunt]

@@jilllingle5295 Yes, he played General William Starkey.

[@leob4403]

​@@roedhuntbut this shit adaptation made the military the good guys, the "bros", what a joke

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@leob4403 The 94 series already made the Military better than they were in the book.

[@leob4403]

@@ShadowSonic2 well yeah, but nothing close to this, they literally made the villains the heroes to make it politically correct with the corrupted scum society we live in, that is so sad

[@markvito746]

The Joel Schumacher comment took some of the luster from it from me lmao but I still love this show but no matter how much that book has aged, its still (imo ) the best fantasy novel ever written

[@knollfamily916]

Mike in, "It" was not a stereotype.

[@JoeChillton]

He's also not the lead. He's the one getting the club back together but it's more Bill and Beverly then Mike. Least for me.

[@boomstickcritique902]

No he wasnt but in all honesty the character in the green mile despite being a magical black man is still played so well that he over comes any idea of being a stereo type.

[@ChubbsJustin]

Let’s trade Chris with Girts

[@ongoingsky9347]

Or you can stop telling ppl what to do on their channel.

[@Anthonycheesman33]

You be fair though yall think any character is a stereotype lol.

[@jamesdman7193]

George Lucas neck lmao😂😂😂

[@msladytsunade777]

It's so GREAT to see GIRTZ back there!!! He should have been in the chair but thanks COVID you ruined everything...BLAH! But at least I can see and hear Girtz laughing!

[@larryroyovitz7829]

I don't know how they did it, but they literally shot, burned and pissed on this story in this adaptation.

[@leob4403]

Because wokeness is more important than artistic integrity!

[@sirlisterofsmeg333]

If find the 1994 Miniseries pretty good even today. Flawed but good. Not sure about this one though...

[@irishemogirl6720]

Agreed. I love the 94 series. Of course it's kind of dated now but it still holds up well.

[@beckiejani7782]

The Black military scene is in the first 100 pages. Just in the book, not either movie.

[@leob4403]

It is not a black junta that kills white people. That is never stated in the book

[@ballerinafromtheblock]

I will say your wrong about one thing guys… in the books it’s eluded to that Randall Flag (the walking man) had something to do with captain tripps. King mentioned in an early chapter that Flaggs name was on one of the doors at the disease center.

[@okami-chan9772]

Yeah when people saw Amber's character, or heard that she's in the show, people were like; "Oh hell no, not this abusive bitch! Get her the hell off this show!" And honestly I don't blame them one bit; she got exposed for lying, and now known as an abusive monster. Yet people at Hollywood, around the time, still see her as a "innocent victim" and gave her so much attention and gigs!

[@Gamer4672]

I just have one question: does "Don't Fear the Reaper" play at ALL during this series? Please say yes

[@leob4403]

Yep, it plays at the end of one episode, like 5 or 6 something like that

[@UnCreativeDeconstructionism]

What's up with these lewd bots in the comments. 😔🤦‍♂️

[@swankm9821]

Right!!!😂thought it was just me noticing this😂😂🤔

[@daisycatdaisycat8873]

I knew it would suck when it didnt have the kic k ass intro with "dont fear the reaper" it sucks

[@themadafaka6839]

Even the miniseries was goofy... So I don't have much hope for this remake...

[@biguy617]

It is my favorite miniseries done on King work. I love it. I would rather rewatch it than watch this remake.

[@MarkoFelix]

I just found the guys from spil by accident! I thought there didn't do any more reviews

[@monicakraut9238]

I missed being able to watch this series. Anyone know how/where I can watch it now?

[@Hawk369-z1x]

The best part of the book was the character development, which is all missing from the mini-series. The ending of this book is horrible.

[@leob4403]

What about it is horrible?

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@leob4403That stupid "God blows up the bomb" thing. Ultimately the heroes do nothing to stop Flagg because God does it for them.

[@jooddart9736]

I want to see Martin in more Xmas sweaters

[@serenityq26]

two videos you mentioned this film "overlord" i've never heard of

[@Danjoker.]

Oh laws yes!!!!

[@alib6615]

I wanted to wait until I read "The Stand" before I watched this. I finished the book this morning and watched the first five episodes of the 2020 miniseries and my biggest complaint is that really none of the characters are developed well. The only reason things made sense to me is because I spent this month reading the book. The casting, acting, and updated time was great, but there is just something missing. I didn't believe any of these relationships...even Tom and Nick (which are my favorite characters in the book). They just cut way too many corners and if I hadn't read the book, I don't think I would have gotten past the second episode because I am able to fill in the blanks with the source material. I think Nadine and Trashcan Man were the best examples you gave of WTF!?! There is really no character development for her. She has zero chemistry with Larry and her coming onto him (in the miniseries) comes out of nowhere. 1) You spend almost no time with them on the road and what you see doesn't earn what their relationship is supposed to be. Also, she is conflicted in the book, but in the show just seems evil and into being bad. Which leads to 2) why does she suddenly change her mind and throw herself at Larry? I can't with Trashcan Man's character. The miniseries did him dirty. Just lots of problems, but I am curious how it wraps up and am kind of hate watching it at this point. Loved the review as always.

[@leob4403]

And Lucy Swann (Larrys girlfriend) was not even in this whatsoever, they completely removed her, so the Nadine/Larry relationship and arch makes no sense whatsoever anymore! These guys had no idea what they were doing, it's a tragedy

[@starbrand3726]

After just watching the first episode I can say... it sucks. Why? * The out of order storytelling. This episode jumps from the future, to the past, to the present, without warning. * Characters with weird or undefined motivations. For example: Harold starts out as an awkward peeping Tom with a crush on his former babysitter, and ends up going to "I'll kill everyone" mode quickly. * Over inflated, padded scenes that serve no reason other than to stretch out the run time. Example: The scene with General Starky and Redman. It was completely unnecessary to have that conversation they had. It didn't progress the story at all and slowed the whole pace down. And actually ended up with a poetry reading...in the middle of a disaster. And this was all in the first episode. After CBS failed with Star Trek Discovery, Lower Decks, Picard, Twilight Zone, and now The Stand, I have canceled my CBS subscription.

[@stephennootens916]

The Starky scene happens in the book without Stu and in fact if I remember right he has his own little subplot were fails to control Captain Trips and goes sort of crazy like Coronal Kartz. The poem he recites in both and opens the original miniseries. The motives and so forth you make more sense of they had a straight forward retelling so you could see the darkness and anger that builds in Harold.

[@starbrand3726]

@@stephennootens916 I did not read the book, and based solely on the first episode, I just can't see Harold's motivation to such darkness. It looks like he goes from awkward nice guy to serial killer over night.

[@leob4403]

​@@stephennootens916 Starkey never even meets Stu in the book. All the military are out to kill him and cover up the spreading of the virus. But since this adaptation is a propaganda piece the military are now the good guys instead!

[@stephennootens916]

@@leob4403 I have to admit although it has been awhile since I read the book, but I remember the military picking Stu up at his home and try to cover up the whole virus until it has spread too much to hide it. It isn't until Captain Trips took out most of the human race that Stu manages to break out of lab.

[@leob4403]

@@stephennootens916 yeah and there's this guy called Elder that tries to kill Stu, but he manages to kill him instead. Anyway, we have to cut out anything that would make our beloved government or medias or military or doctors or scientists or whatever look bad, we can not have our children seeing anything else but pure propaganda after all, screw all kinds of critical thinking of our authorities that King tried to inspire in his works, that is dangerous for our puny little minds, that's what our beloved big brother tells us

[@LopezzT]

Nice to see Girth here, we missed Girth.

[@ss2gora0]

Wait, who's girth?

[@LopezzT]

@@ss2gora0 seriously? Everybody knows Girth. They used to have him on all the time.

[@ss2gora0]

@NoseKey Oh yeah, Girtz! He the man, it's good to see him back :D

[@justin5002]

The original miniseries was 100% better in my opinion.

[@plantspace3221]

Amber heard isn’t even acting that’s how she was with depp 🤣

[@yicketyyackety]

I knew there was something different about Martin, but I thought it was the hat.

[@charminglady2011]

Oooh I didn't know they cut him.

[@popeye697]

The black actor in this new Stand is the same actor who played the younger version of Louis Gossett jr. In HBO's Watchmen.

[@popeye697]

He was also "Uber" in season 2 of Jack Ryan

[@chicostephenson]

i always though that them going to las vegas was too extreme. even reading the book i was thinking this is insane! there is no way you can do this stuff every single day.

[@leob4403]

You mean walking from Denver to Las Vegas would be too much?

[@noneya3635]

Hang on, you’re mad at King for writing back stereotypes. But you’re okay with the producers in the show making the main black guy a drug addict… not seeing the irony in that are ya?

[@leob4403]

Woke people never question themselves, they are always right!

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@leob4403So you're mad the black character was given character flaws? There is no pleasing you!

[@leob4403]

@@ShadowSonic2 they took a multi faceted, fascinating character and turned him into a cardboard cutout. The acting and directing were abysmal

[@Radd_ArtandComics]

U read the wrong version .. In the extension added to book man in black was put in as one who started it all which makes complete sense in s.k. universe its all part of the wheel of ka (dark tower)

[@darkhearsttoys5224]

I still love the original. I don't think I'll watch the new one... the cast just can't compare.

[@neuesachlichkeit6919]

Didnt watch this derpy reboot, but I will say in the actual books Flagg crucified drug users, if I'm not mistaken. BUT DO GO ON.

[@leob4403]

Yeah this adaptation completely butchered the messages of the book, they changed everything to suit their woke agenda

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@leob4403Define "Woke". I mean, the original novel was pretty racist.

[@leob4403]

@@ShadowSonic2 it was not racist

[@deadhead8323]

I can't be the only one who think martin looks like uncle phill.

[@DeltaAssaultGaming]

They shouldn’t have changed Larry Underwood. Really misguided and disrespectful

[@leob4403]

They not only race swapped him, they also completely removed some of his main motivations like his relationship with lucy Swann and so forth, what a piece of junk

[@Domzdream]

I wanted to like this series but....sadly....it wasn’t good. I watched the whole thing. But hey, each to his own I guess. If you liked it, good for you.

[@ZekeThePlumber86]

This is as horrible as I anticipated.. The show I mean, not y'all lol

[@nicholasbella7459]

The first ep. Was decent.

[@Chappell5252]

Are the other episodes available to watch?

[@madizzle90]

@@Chappell5252 It looks like only the first episode is available.

[@CyberSpider35]

Well in old series pandemic and Flagg's shinanigas kinda feel like two complete different stories having nothing to do with each other and that was... baffling. I guess they've tried to fix this somehow here.

[@ShadowSonic2]

I think King said that after 500 pages he sort of ran out of ideas about what to do about the virus plot so he came up with the Flagg plot for the rest of it.

[@nevermindgaming6848]

At least nat wolff still has a job

[@danielbuchanan1564]

I refused to watch this until I saw the whole series. I'm sorry. New Vegas was fantastic! Yeah it's over the top. But this DT was recorded before 01/06/21. New Vegas looks like a Qanon fever dream.

[@abccinema1]

is episode 5 out ? I thought we were on episode 4

[@waterotter3625]

Y'all laughing hysterically got ME laughing hysterically! 😂😂😂

[@verlisifiancesatire6344]

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