THE STAND Episode 6 Is OFFENSIVELY Bad: Breakdown, Ending Explained Review & Book Differences

THE STAND Episode 6 Is Offensively Bad: Breakdown, Ending Explained Spoiler Review & Book Differences. We review, recap and explain the latest episode of the Stand on CBS and discuss why the Ezra Miller performance is one of the worst things we've ever seen.
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Ok so up top if you've been following the channel for a while now then you'll know that I don't intentionally rip into things for the sake of doing it. I'm not a get woke go broke anti-sjw type youtuber who just talks about things in a negative light to cause drama and get clicks, however, what Ezra Miller and CBS have done with the stand in general this episode is so bad that it's bordering on offensive and I have no idea why they thought this was a good idea.
Now I'm not in the best of moods with CBS as it stands...pun not intended. Since starting my breakdowns they've put claims on a number of them and have blocked them from being monetised. I do this as a full time job and rely on revenue from videos so them carrying this out on something, especially when I wasn't even ripping into the show is super frustrating. Kinda makes doing the videos a waste of time as I could be working on something that's not gonna get flagged and will get me money instead but I know you guys are enjoying the videos so I perservere.
I've been trying to give these guys the benefit of the doubt but clearly it's not happening from their side so screw em.
After watching the opening of this episode I've just had the little goodwill I had over the show killed completely. Now in the source material, the trashcan man is a man who is a pyromaniac. He's fascinated by setting trashcans alight, hence the name. Now the character suffers from mental illness
Though he suffers from mental illness I think even if you watch the original mini series then you'll know that he comes across as crazy more than someone who's disabled. Now I dunno if I'm putting my own impressions and life experience before what the show is trying to portray here but I did have a disabled relative who passed away last year and the portrayal that Ezra gives seems like he's trying to ape that but he isn't doing anyone any favours. In 2021 I just think this is such a bad idea that I have no idea why anyone allowed it to happen and when he's strutting slowly through the tankers with his jaw sticking out, bent wrists, making velociraptor sounds and then jacking off to fire it just paints out people with disabilities in a bad light. It's almost a caricature of someone suffering from something that they can't control and it doesn't paint out people with disabilities in a sympathetic or understandable light. I'd heard for a while from people that had been given early access that Ezra went to far with his performance and to go from him to then Tom Cullen being bossed around and tread on, it just seems in such bad taste. They did a lot with making Tom Cullen seem like more than his disability but unfortunately this took 90 steps back to the 1970s and pretty much derailed the entire season.
Sorry I just had to get that off my chest now as always this is the heavy spoilers show, I'm your host Paul...welcome I guess....now let's get into the breakdown.
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[@heavyspoilers]

Bro noooo

[@AllenJohn]

Thank you for the breakdown/spoilers.

[@leftofyou]

I think if you claim your own videos you will still get 50% revenue on these.

[@jasonsaddison]

Hard agree with your stance, it wasn't a cool representation. That being said, I'm okay with people making mistakes as long as they acknowledge it and apologize. If they do that it won't be the reason I quit watching, if they don't it will. (That being said, as a fan of the source material that's pretty forgiving of film this show it has been a chore of a show in general)

[@heavyspoilers]

Fair enough, I feel like if this was more than 10 years old though cbs would be issuing a disclaimer before the start of it

[@gravemistake2688]

One thing is for sure , Even though its been branded "Based on the book by Stephen King " it should be branded " A Re-imagining of The Stand by Stephen King " . To think that one of my top ten books of all time has been reduced to this is sad . This show isn't just a Flatliner its DOA . I'll continue to watch it till the end , but I have little hope for any sort of redemption at this point .

[@catherine8470]

@Fallen Engel People can say they don't like something. I don't care for this but am curious how it ends since it is different than the 94 miniseries and the book.

[@DouganDruid]

After the disaster of trashcan man, im watching to see the new ending King wrote for it

[@mariaquiet6211]

I don't think The Stand is filmable. I didn't expect much from this so I was fine. At least the special effects weren't *as* godawful as the 90's version.

[@smb123211]

I agree completely. I stopped after episode 2 when it became impossible to watch with my 14 year old granddaughter due to the non-stop obscenities. Plus I read the interview with King’s son, the writer, about it not being about a pandemic (??!), Flagg and Trump, etc. It’s a disaster.

[@simonemurrin7099]

Don’t you think that is such a shame? They really had a great opportunity to make this unbelievable and unmissable but I really miss being told a story as you are when you read the book. I didn’t want to watch timeline hopping snippets of a story that I have to work hard to piece together. They already had a masterpiece to work with!

[@Aster_Risk]

Matt Frewer's portrayal in the original miniseries was fascinating and never felt like a character that was making fun of someone.

[@ShadowSonic2]

It's because his take just made Trashcan Man a random crazy guy. It ignored how in the book it's clear he's brain damaged from trauma and bad medical treatments. Ezra's take is more akin to that.

[@ElizabethT45]

@@ShadowSonic2 Trash also spent time being driven cross-country by a man who occasionally m*lested him, causing him a lot of confusion.

[@Howard_T_Duck]

@@ShadowSonic2exactly, he’s so bland in the original to me

[@ARTSIEBECCA]

They just didn't develop any of the characters. Nothing to give them life. At least in the original mini you felt connected to each of their characters. Just bad.

[@mayhemmacraider4737]

I feel zero for any character in this sad ass reboot.

[@wanderingseth]

that's the effect of being all clever and non-linear about it. they think they're being so smart in re-interpreting a classic, but they're just turning it into a Frankenstein's monster.

[@wanderingseth]

@William McHugh Yes exactly. I didn't mind they they skipped the whole pandemic thing. But they still needed to give us a journey at some point, otherwise it's just one giant fever dream.

[@wanderingseth]

@William McHugh And that would have worked fine if they had used the extra time to tell compelling stories about the characters. But they focused on them like some 'character study', and gave us a montage of scenes rather than sending us on a journey with the characters. In the original, I remember being so excited to see Mother Abigail for the first time, and so relieved to see Boulder the first time. None of those emotions are present in the new show. I didn't even care about Mother Abigail in this one because we hardly saw any dreams! The dreams were handled so badly.

[@wanderingseth]

@Hansy Precisely. No acting in that conflict.

[@vengeance86]

its so strange to see when you start to be mad at something, its like a totally different side of you. I felt that sadness.XD

[@Dani-oy2mg]

Me too. Keep doing what you are doing. We Don't need the "Stand." We deserve you.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Me too. I love the 1994 version and the book. . . but remakes are usually 💩

[@danielaslan50]

Yeah CBS is funding poor choices and bad acting in all their shows ATM imho.

[@bubblesthomas485]

I was interested but now, not so much. I am a fan of King’s.like most Americans reading just not into as much these days. Even after reading the 2 versions of the stand, the second version 1200 pages more not enough different then the first read. Picard was a great time but as the virus just keeps getting bigger and mutating around the world especially USA. I think maybe like Twitter maybe getting offline and maybe read more and yes I know I am confusing do I, should I and could I read anything longer then 345 pages? Why would I give CBS my small ass change if they are going after creators taking their money? Think CBS executives should piss off .

[@itsajackelajackel9679]

Trash is not/was not disabled he is stark raving mad , entirely lost touch with reality.

[@jennyclark6183]

No, that's just Ezra playing Ezra.

[@powerpufffan]

@@jennyclark6183 I feel like the last time I heard about him he was punching a fan :-///

[@jennyclark6183]

@@powerpufffan He did not punch her and I don't think she was a fan. She was harassing him.

[@spookydoodoo1500]

Gotta remember, he was crazy to begin with, then got his mind turned to soup from electro shock therapy. I thought it was an interesting take on Trash, especially since the other characters' development were exactly like the the original miniseries or completely thrown out the window

[@archibaldchimpin]

My favourite book has been ruined, this series is a travesty

[@Bioarch125]

I mean the series isn’t the best but I love the stand and no series will ever ruin the book for me

[@wolfgangfrost8043]

Did the '94 miniseries also kill the book for you? I think both are equally flawed, but both have their unique moments where they get the "feeling" exactly right, even if the details are inaccurate.

[@DigtialCr0w]

They ruined it the first time too.... I ABSOLUTELY hated Molly Ringworm.. God, she annoyed me

[@AFishNamedBob]

Maybe you weren't aware of how reality works but nothing has changed the book. It's still there.

[@VirtualSatyr]

Take a Family Guy style parody of Leonardo DiCaprio in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape," turn it to 11, and make him a pyromaniac. Then you'll have Ezra Miller's Trashcan Man.

[@juicenot2481]

It’s not Ezra miller’s fault, he wanted a job, they gave it to him. Casting was poor, casting is to blame

[@Ilovegrunge123]

@@juicenot2481 Doesn't he have flashpoint movie and fantastic beast 3 coming up.

[@maxcovfefe]

I thought he was a meth-head.

[@AllysonA8281]

Just like a greedy corporation to pick on our Friendly Neighborhood Spoilerman. CBS should be ashamed! You have worked very hard to produce quality content promoting their very poor attempt at an adaptation of a phenomenal book. They should be paying you extra for the support you have shown them. Thank you for sticking with it bro!

[@FMD-FullMetalDragon]

The original mini-series was really good. This one... Not so good.

[@Nick-ce6lt]

Original was overrated, kept falling asleep though it. This one is at least intense even if it isn't perfect.

[@XDaddy921]

@@Nick-ce6lt Agreed... it was corny garbage.

[@canadiandcute]

It really was way better. Everything from the actors to the scenery to the explosions were better on the first one.

[@juanjaramillo6854]

Agreed. Its sad too because I had high hopes for this, but its a poorly edited mess, and they have ruined the narrative. Skarsgard is fantastic as Flagg, thats about it.

[@BlackRobin71]

I think the new one has been great!

[@calboy2]

I’m really disappointed by how poorly they’re developing each of the characters. They killed off the judge without really explaining how or why. I’m just really not impressed at all. Sounds like cbs has the price is right to live off until their last dying breath

[@larryhatcher8927]

I thought they did a good job with the judge......In the last two episodes, Flagg has mentioned that he knows Judge Farris is coming but wants her taken alive (Different from the book).....Last night Lloyd explained to Flagg that the people he had working for him had the intelligence of a turnip. We also see the Judge hear something outside and grabs a gun. It's pretty obvious that Bobby Terry (because he doesn't have the smarts to do anything else) just starts blasting away. In the book the Judge was sort of the elder statesman of the FZ. I would have like to see that explored more.

[@ARTSIEBECCA]

I agree character development is.horrible.

[@larryhatcher8927]

@Eugene Oisten My advice to you before you go any further is to read the book...apparently you know little about the story

[@MothershipCreative]

@Eugene Oisten In the book, Flagg orders the judge killed on sight, but he doesn’t want his head damaged as he wants to send it back to the Free Zone.

[@dannygillmusic]

Also not a fan of fundamentally changing characters. Judge ferris was a man and they just yeeted Ralph

[@factualopinion4275]

The whole show has been offensively bad.

[@hez859]

Really? I honestly like Skarsgard as Flagg as well as Harold🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@factualopinion4275]

@@hez859 I can get behind skarsgard portrayal of flag but I am not feeling the horold actor.

[@MandyBuglet]

@@hez859 Skarsgaard is a lot better than the mullet man of the original miniseries hehe.

[@robertszekely8686]

I agree that Trashcan man should have been developed more than this. They weren't able to develop him because they wasted to much time with the nonlinear version of this series in the first few episodes. They didn't develop other characters enough, such as Nick Andros. When Nick dies you can't feel as much as you should for him. The only character you get to know so far in this series is Harold Lauder. I'm not thrilled with this version of the Stand, and that's putting it mildly.

[@Coryalan2]

**two

[@YuuKamijo]

Oh CBS is a bully. I'm here for your reviews and commentary of the shows that I find interesting, especially the puns! Thank you for these videos.

[@MarsMellow84]

Skarsgard is the only well acted and interesting character. Wtf did they rush everything with this series!? The 90s mini series had more depth and i cared about each character. What a waste of talent.

[@larryhatcher8927]

I have a better question......Why did they start filming it in Canada in late September. 75% of the The Stand takes place in the summer

[@livcontessa]

I feel like he's doing Eric minus the teeth.

[@Hibbs4Prez]

Must be a Skarsgard groupie because reviews of his performance haven't been kind.

[@livcontessa]

@Liam Pal-Wang I agree with you. I've seen this actor in other roles and I like him. It seems like they took it away from Nick Andros, (even though he perishes in both) and gave it to Harold.

[@larryhatcher8927]

@Liam Pal-Wang Harold Lauder was a main character in this story. Remember this is a story that has a lot of characters......And you have difference tiers on main characters...First tier is Nick, Stu, Larry, Frannie, Flagg, Mother Abigail second tier would be Harold, Glen, Ralph, Lloyd, Nadine, Trash Can Man...I would include Harold in the top group had he not been killed off shortly after the bombing

[@jinxmas]

The only cast members I believe to be portraying the characters correctly are Flagg, because I love me some Skarsgard, and Harold. Everyone else is not up to par with the book AT ALL. And maybe Dayna too, but that's all.

[@bethiecrisler720]

I agree and fran didn't try to kill herself they say f**** way to much and its not anything like the book

[@TechnicJunglist]

This

[@memyself898]

Skarsgard just seems to be acting like he does in everything, which wroks well for Flagg to be honest. Harold is spot on and by far the best in this series.

[@DanielCantinero]

Skarsgard is awesome I just wish they put some demonic FX make up prosthetics to make him look scary... He’s too good looking. 🤭🤣🤣🤷🏻‍♂️

[@jinxmas]

@@DanielCantinero I'm sure they are gearing up for that. He has been getting increasingly pissed off, I'm sure we're gonna see it!!

[@justaguy7230]

Sorry for the loss of your loved one.

[@heavyspoilers]

thank you

[@beckiejani7782]

Yeah, that's sad.

[@cbandtheradio5610]

People getting their pitchforks ready when someone portrays some mentally DISABLED, but loved it when the character was portrayed as mentally UNSTABLE is hilarious to me, and a true instance of a very specific type of hypocrisy. I myself have schizophrenia, and I find it truly funny when people believe it's ok to portray mentally unstable, or even say words like crazy, or insane when referring to people like me, but get REALLY mad/hurt when someone acts like someone mentally disabled. DONT GET ME WRONG PLEASE!!! I really don't care about the word "crazy", nor do I care about an actor playing one, (and although only a very VERY small percentage of us are serial killers, or masterminds who HUNT serial killers that's pretty much the only thing a character with schizophrenia gets to do or be) I am merely pointing out an often unseen hypocrisy. I am no snowflake so please don't take my comment the wrong way. Personally I thought Ezra's performance was really good. Even though it wasn't really like the Trashcan Man from the book. I'm of the same opinion as the South Park guys: "It's either ALL funny, or NONE of it is funny". Meaning either everything is up for interpretation, and nothing is shielded, or NOTHING can be interpreted in ANY way. It's a tv show, and he acted his ass off in the part. He wasn't making fun of disabled people. He was merely acting an interpretation of a SINGLE disabled person. From fiction. I believe if we take down the shrowd of overused PC-ness, and look at something objectively then and only then can we appreciate it for what it is. This is not a performance people need to get offended over. The Simple Jack reference doesn't really work because in that movie he created that character for the sole purpose of fame, and did it in a really cheesey 2 dimensional way. Ezra's Trashcan Man might make you feel disturbed, but it's supposed to. If you are offended because you are disturbed by the character then you have missed the point. S King creates characters that are extremely true to life, and that's why he's a good writer. Ezra played a character that could've been plucked out of a real apocalypse, and that character disturbs us. It is supposed to. Again, my only reason for writing this was to not only point out an often unknown hypocrisy in society, but to also point out that this portrayal wasn't what people think it was, and are getting offended by. I hope my explanation will help someone to rewatch, and see the character in a new light. I also hope that people will see the schizophrenic serial killer trope for what it is, an unrealistic trope/stereotype.

[@cbandtheradio5610]

@Bitch Face Exactly. There's all kinds of hypocrisy EVERYWHERE. And I'm no snowflake, easily butt-hurt kind of person. But when a new show/movie/book comes out where the serial killer is a schizophrenic, and everyone praises it like it's something new and incredible, and not the cookie-cutter stereotype it is I just tend to internally roll my eyes. People get REALLY upset when people do black face, say "that's retarded", or perpetrate any number of stereotypes when there's no malicious intent involved, and I mean countless Facebook campaigns, and Cancel Culture. But the mentally unstable stereotype, and the words 'crazy', or 'insane' don't even blip anyone's radar. Like I said I'm no snowflake so I really don't care when people do it (internal eye rolling). I just find the hypocrisy/double standard hilarious. I can't take anyone seriously when they complain about something like Ezra's performance because it was spot on, and they felt disturbed, but they fucking LOVE the new season of Prodigal Son, and call people whose opinions they don't agree with 'crazy', or 'insane'. Fuckin hilarious haha!

[@FullyBadDad]

Thanks for the breath of fresh air in this response.

[@wanderingseth]

I see the Trashcan Man as being primarily a broken human. Any disability he has is overshadowed by the traumas he has experienced. I don't even know how much of what looks like disability is actually brain-damage from the violence he experienced, and deformity from burn scarring.

[@cbandtheradio5610]

@wanderingseth , truly. I can see people upset that Ezra's performance/character isn't an accurate representation of the character from to the novel (even though in my own personal opinion his portrayal IS pretty great haha). But, people shouldn't be offended by the portrayal of a disability, or ANY disability really. Because it's not only just a portrayal, but it's a portrayal meant to SHOW a disability, and not to make FUN of a disability. It isn't born out of malicious intent. Besides, what are we truly saying when we decide one or another disability isn't allowed to be portrayed. That those people don't exist? That they are so disturbing that they hit somewhere deep inside us, so they shouldn't be acknowledged? It's pretty funny what people get offended by, and for what reasons. I believe if people who are needlessly offended look deep into why they are offended they'll realize some important truths about themselves. If someone is making fun of someone with a disability, something with malicious intent then people not only have the right to be offended, but they SHOULD be offended. Pretty much any other reason is self-serving. Some people just WANT to be offended, or they WANT to fight because they are in a bad mood, or they "doth protest too much" because somewhere deep down (whether subconscious or not) they are honestly disturbed not just by the portrayal, but the truth behind the portrayal. Being 'PC' isn't a bad thing. It's only when people hide behind PC for self serving reasons that they are hypocrites. Whether they know it or not. People need to stop and think about why they are offended before they REACT to the offense.

[@aaronmit6584]

Ezra was cosplaying Chris Katan playing the Trashcan man from the OG series lol

[@aaroncornish9955]

Big Simple Jack Vibes.. in a bad way

[@Citizenesse8]

This is exactly what I came here to say. I immediately thought Mr. Peepers. Ezra Miller normally does a better job than this. I was surprised and disappointed.

[@jennyclark6183]

@@Citizenesse8 To be fair, he could only do what was written, and he had to do what the director wanted...I really don't know how much was Ezra's fault.

[@mariaquiet6211]

I always thought Will Ferrell would've made a better Trashcan Man

[@twstf8905]

They did a FAR better job with the Trashcan Man in the original mini-series. You understand exactly what his internal "demons" were, and that he was a tragic victim of bullying and trauma, not that he was mentally handicapped or whatever. His depiction here in this version is RIDICULOUSLY shameful, I have to agree. 👍 Even Tom Cullen, (M-O-O-N, that spells Tom Cullen!) Is shown more believable in the original mini-series way back in the day. I don't know what they were thinking here but it just isn't the same at ALL.

[@ironcity8693]

Is nepotism part of the problem why Hollywood can not produce quality movies and tv shows from directors and writers?

[@Lance37a]

Yep

[@samuelglass6805]

9:06 - Sorry, but go back and read the book again. In that version, Frannie does indeed discover Harold's manifesto, and also evidence of what he intends to do. IIRC, she rushes back and tries to inform Stu and the rest during the committee meeting, when the explosion occurs, so she never gets the chance.

[@victoriaswift3633]

Me, a therapist, trying to figure out what kind of acting Miller is doing??!!!

[@victoriaswift3633]

@Valkyrie's Way agreed... and it got worse and then was just point less and meaningless

[@briant216]

Well... he's doing what the director told him to do....he did nothing wrong... it is not the actor's job to make the film or TV series good. It's like when you work at a construction job and the boss tells you "the door has too be sideways or you're fired"..... you do the job, you get paid, and you never work for that guy again.

[@jennyclark6183]

If you are really a therapist, Victoria, please take a look at Ezra's career from the beginning until the end. He used to be well spoken, brilliant, a great actor. But he suddenly seemed to go bonkers, sabotaging his looks and acting entirely different, and not in a good way. It may have been that right about the same time he got the contract with Warner bros to play Flash that his girlfriend of four years, whom he said he had planned to marry, suddenly marries someone else. He seemed to go downhill fast from there.

[@Lunchladydoyle]

My thoughts on this episode, I was a group home manager for 14 years and Ezra Miller should win a Razzie for worst actor for his portrayal of Trashcan Man. Makes Pauly Shore in Encino Man look like Daniel Day Lewis in comparison. Whoof !! 🙄

[@jennyclark6183]

What does your being a group home manager have to do with any of this?

[@tammyelizabeth5157]

cbs this version of the stand is officially a failure. Amber Herd. A known abuser. Ezra miller. A known abuser. Supporting their careers is bad enough. Trashing one of King's best novels is even worse.

[@livcontessa]

Very poorly casted and weakly written. Nick Andros is a ghost character and I find none of the rest likeable or true to the characters of what is a phenomenal story.

[@ericcartman7361]

Hoping HBO will redo this show and actually stick to the source material

[@cfa1122]

I’m a big fan of King, and I’m glad to see his work back on the small screen. It sucks CBS has done such mediocre work with it.

[@glasswhisperer]

They took every character in Vegas, except for Flagg, from Idiocracy instead of the Stand by accident.

[@micheledion2000]

It upsets me about Trash. When I first read this book in 1978, I knew he was disabled. They treat him like a toy now. He was my favorite character for a long long time.

[@djraider]

Acting was atrocious. Completely killed the vibe they had going on.

[@heavyspoilers]

Yeah, no idea why this was the choice

[@heavyspoilers]

@Lee ooooof

[@christiandeville17]

Definitely the acting slipped

[@jasonarons8637]

Judge dying off screen sucked, the actress deserved more screen time

[@The.Love.VVitch]

You're spot on. It was wildly inappropriate and cringey

[@bellewether4534]

With you on this one. No idea why they sh*t the bed so badly with the trashcan man. In the book, he's got issues, sure. But King is very careful to show how these are a direct result of faliures by his family and the care system - which makes him vunerable to charismatic psychos like Flagg. Showing him without this context is akin to the old "freak" shows. All spectacle, no substance and utterly offensive.

[@carnagereport11]

Crazy so many people hated the episode. I loved it. Didn’t find trash can man offensive in any way. Disappointed so many people get offended so easily nowadays. Shows decent and I’ll keep watching.

[@Darth_Blink]

I agree with you 100%. I can't believe they really did that. Poor adaptation.

[@kevlaw10]

Every time Ezras character was on screen, all I could hear was that line from Tropic thunder. “You never go full....”

[@princesssmileyface91]

He sounded like, Sponge Bob doodle pants 😂😂

[@cindyblack3109]

Totally agree. This rendition of the Stand is "Trash".

[@bethiecrisler720]

Yeah it is

[@catherine8470]

I do wonder if they had told the story in a linear fashion without jumping all over the place would have helped with connection to characters. I feel like the linear storytelling would have been better for me. Don't care about the storyline being changed where it has but jumping around so much at the beginning made it difficult for me to connect to the characters.

[@Paganscot]

this really is starting to suck, isn't it.

[@samtheman123]

I’m afraid so. Way too much over the top sexual stuff and gore, and really bad portrayal of Lloyd and Trash Can Man.

[@factualopinion4275]

Always has been👨🏽‍🚀

[@BostonMBrand]

@@samtheman123 I will never truly understand the weird sexual parts in this series. I know king is infamous for the way he writes sexual situations but most adaptations, even the ones that try to be as dark as the books, usually drop them entirely, simply because there are better ways at executing the message King originally intended. The stand book definitely has those moments but nothing so unnecessary and disrespectful, let alone disturbing.

[@alidamau5925]

Also thank you for sticking with this even though they demonetized you. These are the best Stand reviews on KZbin and were helpful in deciding whether or not to watch the show in the first place.

[@Corn_Pone_Flicks]

There was a time when you couldn't monetize videos, and people made them anyway because they wanted a creative outlet. I miss those days.

[@Necyn]

We all knew its was gonna be bad. When we all found out that, that woman playing Nadine was involved...

[@Wulffie86]

I knew it wouldn’t get much love because nothing on CBS all access has been good

[@daisyblossomflowerchild9702]

I really enjoy your reviews, as they are not melodramatic in either direction. I'm so very sorry CBS has chosen to demonetize your videos. Thank you for continuing your reviews in the face of lost income. :)

[@amyhudler9417]

I completely agree with you!!! Trash is TERRIBLE in this series!! I can't stand this "reimagining". Everything is terrible. No character development with the exception of Harold. I hate that CBS has made this entire series all about Harold and Nadine. Rubbish.

[@user-wv2bn2cb1i]

O.K. 2 things that didn't make sense to me. Spoiler alert - 1- when Bobby Terrry is escaping down the elevator, weren't Julie and LLoyd still in the PH with Flagg? And isn't there only 1 elevator? So how is it possible that Julie & Lloyd were down in the lobby when Flagg came down after dealing with BT in the elevator? Did I miss something? 2- Who put the bomb inside piano? When ? All i saw was that Nadine put the tube next to it, not inside.

[@will88TFs4Life]

Yeah, seeing the two down there so quickly was weird.

[@rossthompson1657]

For what it's worth, I completely agree with you regarding Miller's portrayal of TCM. Their voice, mannerisms and physical posture indeed appear to be riffing on offensive and outdated stereotypes of disability. I appreciate that part of the problem lies with the original King material but then at least he had pages and pages to contextualise the character rather than the cold open of TCM appearing onscreen with no explanation. I am not arguing that one is better than the other but you would think that in the decades since the novel's publication, the industry might have learnt something about how to portray disability in a more compassionate and nuanced way. Incidentally, the song playing in the background is by the late Daniel Johnston - a pointed choice given his struggles with mental health and bipolar disorder - which only seems to compact the unsubtle, clumsy approach that this show takes at every turn.

[@HyenaMoh]

I agree. The portrayal of Trash in the 1994 was more akin to the book. Don’t know who decided to change it, but it was a bad call.

[@BostonMBrand]

The fact that they had to include the masturbation is just so unnecessary and disrespectful. I know king is infamous for his awkward sexual writing but none of this was necessary. Trash’s fascination with fire was more akin to a bizarre cultist religion. He doesn’t do it for sexual gratification, he does it because he is obsessed with fire. It’s the entire reason why he is obsessed with flagg. Flagg can realistically set the world on fire, and trash would obviously be in favor of a man who wants to watch the world burn (both metaphorically and literally).

[@gswithen]

This version makes Kubrick's Shining look like a word for word adaptation. All involved should be removed from show business.

[@brettcullum2555]

The cast here is amazing, but it seems like they are undermined by some stereotypes that the writers have inflicted on the series. You point it out well with making Trashcan Man far more mentally disabled than he was in the book. But also Harold speaks in evil villain cliches, Nadine seems too obviously evil rather than intricately conflicted, and Stu seems like just an image of a good guy. It is like they are doing the shortest route to signal to us what to think. Unfortunately THE STAND as a book works because we see the good and evil in most of the characters rather than these simplistic sketches CBS has kicked out. Proud of you for carrying on despite the flags... but in the end it is ironic that a FLAG is trying to stop you! How very much THE STAND! CBS must have corporate headquarters in Vegas.

[@simonemurrin7099]

I totally agree with you about the characters Brett, you’ve hit the nail on the head

[@kseniasplaydate4330]

Agreed! The splicing of timelines isn't doing anything to help the viewer to empathize with any of the characters either. I think they would've had more success with a gradual development, it might've made their MO more believable/appreciable.

[@ericcartman7361]

What a waste of talented actors. Hoping HBO will redo this show and get a few actors back to do better.

[@ikaris225]

The fact that I'm not surprised at all with how offensive this series got says a lot considering the fact that Josh Boone is one of the people working on it.

[@ericcartman7361]

Josh Boone and Benjamin Cavell are terrible writers.

[@pennyc11]

It is a mess. As I stated before, I hope someone takes all of this mess and puts it into the right order so it makes some sense.

[@annthedivinewitch8776]

So you’re saying I shouldn’t bother with this series.

[@TechnicJunglist]

I'm only watching for Owen Teague as Harold. He's probably the best part.

[@memyself898]

@@TechnicJunglist yeah he's nailing his part.

[@larryhatcher8927]

Can't answer that. I watch this because I'm a big SK fan.

[@starky4079]

Just started watching the 94 original series yesterday, after finishing the book a couple months back. GO WATCH THE FUCKING ORIGINAL, OR READ THE BOOK. THE STAND 2020 IS THE WORST KING ADAPTATION EVER.

[@jerrybeichner]

@@starky4079 I disagree, this is way better than the 90s version, and as far as King adaptations go, this isn’t a terrible one, there have been far worse... See Maximum Overdrive

[@vbmorris81]

Agreed. Trash is one of my favorite characters. He is complex and I have often thought he was more of God's person and not Flaggs..This show doesn't do most of the characters justice. The 90s miniseries was shorter and articulated the work a lot better. Tired of all the f-bombs too.

[@mandrinaneela]

Trash needs a lot more fleshing out to really belong in this.

[@kitm141]

I agree with you re Trash, he was such a complex and sad character in the book. I always thought he was more of an Abigail person, he was misled by Flagg, which fits in with the idea of Flagg being the Father of Lies. He was just lost.

[@jackhanks9598]

They needed to give Trashcan mans story

[@RGC-gn2nm]

Ezra Miller is a freak show. He assaulted that woman in Iceland. Freaked out Gal Gadot on numerous occasions to the point she does not do events with him.

[@Glaiket]

What happened with Gal Gadot? Got a link?

[@fullfiledprophecies]

6 episodes in and it feels like they’ve covered less than half of the story. Damn, how do you mess up this bad? So nick’s dead now? That’s it? How much total time did he have in this series? CBS please stop...

[@heavyspoilers]

Yeah just felt so undeserved

[@fullfiledprophecies]

Heavy Spoilers i can imagine. I keep debating whether I want to binge it once it’s all out just to see for myself, on the other hand though it’s doing a great job of reigniting my love for the 94 miniseries. In the meantime you’re reviews are greatly appreciated! It sucks cbs is flagging your videos just because they can’t seem to handle people not liking what they put out.

[@smb123211]

Well, they did skip half the book and start in Boulder. I stopped with Episode 2

[@HeathenGeek]

I think people trust your opinion so, if it's shit, I'll take your word for it and give it a miss. Pay attention cbs

[@Odd_Combo]

Wow, just like the media!!!

[@natethegr8230]

Yup. Dudes right...it's shit.

[@ericcartman7361]

CBS should hand The Stand over to HBO. They did good with The Outsider and I can see them doing good with The Stand.

[@cfdshark797]

His performance also reminds me of Dwight Frye's Reinfield in Dracula (1931). Extremely over the top, but Frye started out on stage and in silent films, so the exaggerations were understandable. No idea what Ezra was trying to do. Matt Frewer's Trashcan Man was more believable.

[@ratatataraxia]

Glad I stopped watching after episode 4 then. I couldn’t STAND what they are doing. Golden age of television is OVER.

[@valentincavazzos4420]

Mark it would not make a difference if it was made like the original be careful what you wish for

[@SongJiangShiJin]

Geez drama queen. You watch a bad show and they golden age is over? There's still an abundance of great content.

[@ratatataraxia]

@@SongJiangShiJin lol I’ve calmed down a bit, honestly it died before this with game of thrones.

[@kimberlyfendt8282]

Every episode I hope will be better. Its just worse and worse. I 100% agree with you. They treat us like we are stupid, yes we get it Tom is slow. Its so insulting.

[@juliannetaylor8991]

Thank you for your comments about this awful depiction of someone with a disability. There is enough negative stereotyping about people with disabilities. This was definitely offensive.

[@capitaldcolon1795]

Snowflake. Its artistic freedom and your mindset leads to cancel culture. Greetings from europe

[@morganaugust9086]

I would never give your videos a thumbs down EVER. YOUR CHANNEL/VIDEOS IS THE MAIN THING ON KZbin KEEP IT UP

[@canangel75]

I'm a single male 40+ with a criminal record single parent with a autistic and epileptic 17yr old....mental health is the last taboo and people generally are scared of it ....or discrimination is standard. I commed you for bringing this to the fore.....I also felt uncomfortable with how they dealt with that 😕 😳 Fuuuuuuk...soz I sent this to wrong channel I'm a technical luddite

[@meganfedor]

I agree with how poorly they portrayed the Trashcan Man. It was abysmal! The 90's version was so much better.

[@canangel75]

Honest mistake...n don't know what a tarsch man is

[@canangel75]

@@meganfedor trashcan man!!! Fuk soz....I'm pretty high...hard day....🤪🤪😎👌👊🤛👏🙏💪

[@canangel75]

Argh...fk

[@ShadowSonic2]

@@meganfedor The 90s version just acted like a whackjob, though.

[@ColeMayes]

Completely agree with you Paul! When the Trashcan Man appeared I thought, "DANG!! That looks like Ezra Miller!", but by the end of his scenes I was fairly certain it wasn't him. IT WAS!! YUCK!! Personally, I just don't understand why ANY network would air a series with this type of content and storyline in a pandemic where so many have died! In the opening episodes we learn that 7 billion people have died due to a virus created by the US government, and to hide the fact it was them, they spread it to other countries via a vaccine, thus spreading the deaths of billions!! This is totally incompetent, and only spreads the fear of people getting vaccinated, which is the best way to curtail and end this most recent worldwide horror! :'(

[@kitm141]

I found this video by searching for a review of Trash Can Man so at least they haven’t hidden it completely. I am really glad I found your channel, I couldn’t agree more with your opinion, who is this steampunk, hot young character doing a horrific impression of disability?? Trash Can was such a great character in the book as readers did end up feeling sympathetic for him. All of that heart has been removed and we are left with... whatever that was. Alright, I’m ranting now but this really bothered me.

[@TeamKaos1998]

Get a grip dude. That is exactly how Stephen king described trashcan man in the novel. And honestly having dealt with people with mental problems. His performance here was not far off. Trashcan man suffered from schizophrenia and pyromania combined with years of abuse and trauma. Seems like alot of the negativity towards this new adaptation is political. Some folks don't like whoopie goldberg's politics. Some dont like amber heard. Others. Just dont like ezra miller. as for me. I knew exactly what I was getting with this adaptation having read interviews with cavell and boone months ago. Is it perfect ? Nope. Is it what I wish they would have done? Nope. Have I been entertained and impressed by how close it is to the source material? Yes.

[@ianr94]

You are puting out great content dont let them get to you. all the best.

[@motomike71]

What's missed with the CBS version of the Stand is that the book and the mini-series took an effort to allow you to have some sympathy for almost every character, even the ones that go to the dark side. In this, Harold has no redeeming qualities. Sure he was bullied by everyone around him, but the first shot is him being a pervy peeping Tom. His character's motivation is that the world has beat him down and the CBS version of Harold shows him with a sense of entitlement. At least in the book, it shows everyone around him trying to give him a chance and even depicts him questioning taking the dark path. On their way to Boulder, Fran starts to warm up to him, until Stu shows up. You can sort of understand his hatred for Stu in the previous versions. In this version Fran is nothing but a shit to him, and Harold is down the dark path from the start. In the end he does make an attempt at redemption but if all you ever know of these characters this would seem out of left field. Just a glaring example of how this series fails to develop the characters and their arcs despite its ten episode run time. Trashcan Man's lack of development in the CBS series is similar, though he never was a fully developed character in the book. He did have an arc, though we see none of it here. In the book and in the ABC series we do get the sense that society has failed him. In the CBS series they once again they eschew character development and arc and just go for the gross out factor of a scarred and smelly shallow depiction of a mentally handicapped man. Shameful.

[@toocoolfurschoolanimals5618]

Owen Teague as Harold is the only good thing about this series. I love Owen he is such a great actor. everyone else sucks tho.

[@TechnicJunglist]

100%

[@bal9944]

He is a great actor I agree

[@ericcartman7361]

HBO should redo this show and keep him as Harold.

[@wanderingseth]

After 6 episodes they've only achieved ONE COMPELLING SCENE. Out of all that screentime, only one scene has been genuinely tense and thrilling - when Flagg took over the ouija board and terrorised the girls in Nadine's room. That was genuinely brilliant - and it was the only scene in the entire series that has given me an emotional reaction. Everything else is playing out in such a dull and uninteresting manner I just wanna watch the old mini-series again. That had scarier moments than this.

[@bloodyneptune]

Ezra, dude...what the f*ck

[@kayleebliss5738]

He's so gross, he plays evil psychos in movies because he is an evil psycho👀

[@jennyclark6183]

@@kayleebliss5738 Have you ever met him? You do know that he used to be hot, gorgeous, and super talented, don't you?

[@jennyclark6183]

He hates himself. He has been on this self degrading thing since right after his girlfriend of four years dumped him. Don't know if it's related, but it seemed to happen about then.

[@sherangles]

i used to like them but i get extramely bad vibes from them edit: i used the wrong pronouns but i realised that, sorry!

[@TechnicJunglist]

Marilyn Manson was originally cast as Trash which would have been a better choice

[@DementisVenustas]

I’m a couple years late but finally watched it and I agree with you on Ezra’s performance. Idk how the same director who was doing such great scenes with Tom Cullen could let Trash wind up so, so bad.

[@larryhatcher8927]

One more observation here: As someone who has lived in Boulder for 20 years, I take exception as to approach towards the city. It's obvious they don't film here but they don't even make the effort to make it even look like Boulder. They never mention any landmarks, street names.....Also, Boulder is semi-arid town......However in their series , if has rained every day....Tonight they showed a shot with the Flatirons. The Flatirons were about 20 miles in the distance...this was suppose to be where Mother Abigail lived....Lazy film making

[@memyself898]

Also, and please coorect me if I'm wrong as I've never been to Colorado and Live in Florida, but are there ski resorts in that area and would there be a stockpile of dynamite to set off avalanches anywhere near there? I ask because another video touched on this.

[@larryhatcher8927]

@@memyself898 I laughed out loud when I saw Harold with a pamphlet entitled "Boulder Ski Patrol". We have one ski resort on the front range. Eldora is about 20 miles west of Boulder past Nederland. It's the only ski resort for 60-70 miles up I-70......However I can't imagine they would store their avalanche explosives here in Boulder and there is no such thing as the Boulder Ski Patrol. Honestly though, dynamite would not be that hard to find......construction, demo places in Denver...In the book Harold was a pretty smart guy.....I would have no doubt that he could have found the dynamite in a few days search

[@larryhatcher8927]

@Eugene Oisten No she did not....she lived in a house on Mapleton in the book. If she did not live in Boulder then how did the book take place?

[@ottebya]

no good on you man, call out sh*t when you see it, anybody that cant take criticism of their art or acting or jokes or ideologies because of their delicate ego needs to recognize that they live in a society

[@Tandy683]

Maybe When flag says" legion" steven king is linking linoeg from storm of the century

[@bloodyneptune]

I wondered if it was a The God of a Thousand Forms reference, aka Nyarlathotep. I don't know if its been changed since but at one point at least "King has all but said Randall Flagg-especially in The Stand and The Dark Tower series-is one of the many guises of Nyarlathotep" and "Glen Bateman refers to him as the Lovecraftian entity Nyarlathotep" I wondered if they were going that route when he got the...space eyes. Thats a bad description, you know what i mean lol.and thats very Lovecraftian God

[@titusmccarthy]

He often references Legion. He did in Storm of the Century and in The Stand.

[@jaredmiller2689]

It was a character, you are supposed to be bothered by it. The fact you took as offensive is your own thing. People can't get mad at a character. He supposed to be hated or not understood. It does not always have to be a good look at a person regardless of disability not. IT'S A CHARACTER IN A SHOW, if it makes you uncomfortable don't watch it. It is like going to a horror movie and bitch after about how violent or bloody it is. Just because you don't get why they went there doesn't mean it hit some sort of bar of good taste.

[@Anthonycheesman33]

Sounds like hes john Travolta in the fanatic with the overacting.

[@ScreamsInCaves.]

Oh God that movie 😂😂

[@tobeyntucker]

That movie is worse than Dream a little Dream 2 ... yes that bad.

[@debbiesuesteele9639]

Well. I read "The Stand" at fifteen and reread many times over the years. I was hesitant to watch this version ( the mini-series was campy fun)but your fair and intelligent vids convinced me to watch. Upon hearing of CBS's bully-on-the-block demonetization of your videos, they have lost this viewer, and I have family and friends who won't be tuning in. Also, anyone who puts something in the public eye should be able to take criticism, and can only hope it's as even-handed as yours have been. You do good work, sir. Don't let the dipshits get you down. And, as for you, CBS, shame on you. I am embarrassed for you, penalizing someone for exercising the right of free speech because you don't like what is said, and just because you can.

[@josephpalazolo1699]

We love you and are right here with you, brother. Hate this for you

[@mysalynn]

I just finished rereading the book and his episode frustrated me. I agree completely that Trash’s portrayal is offensive.

[@andreisteopan3551]

I complete agree with you, Trash Can Man is completely offensive, both to people with disabilities (sorry to hear about your relative) as well as to the original story by Stephen King.

[@itsajackelajackel9679]

Trash is stark raving mad not disabled.

[@svenidol]

Of COURSE Trashy has a disability. He's fucking psychotic. "bumpitybumpbumpitybumbbumpitybump My life for youuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!" Are there not passages in the book where other characters like Lloyd talk about how he creeps them out, how they don't trust him? His psyche isn't soft like Tom Cullen's - it shattered and jagged. I love the portrayal. I love most of the villains here. Lloyd has just the right amount of hero-worship mixed in with his greasiness. Harold's conflicted nature is on point. I wish Flagg had a little more of a flippant humor , but he brings the intensity beneath the calm exterior nicely. It's the heroes that are undeveloped and sadly lacking in depth. It's hard to care one way or another what happens to them.

[@theangies6221]

Thank you for continuing to do these. I'm super interested in the new ending, but that's about it. 💖

[@calumstewart7665]

Paul, I love your work, make no bones about it. Unfortunately I think whats happening here is you're beginning to see what these major companies and people do to the "plebs" as soon as they don't completely endorse their ideas or products. I sincerely hope you carry on and don't STAND (sorry 🤣) back in this problem. As always please, keep up the great work!!

[@calumstewart7665]

Oh, as far as whether I agree with your opinion or not, I feel that I have already made that answer obvious 🤣

[@charltonwilliamson7130]

I could not watch it from the beginning...in these days, remakes are always horrible.

[@williamjackson6705]

After they completely screwed up Under The Dome , I`m surprised Stephen King would let them touch his Masterpiece. I guess he needed the money to buy another mansion .

[@user-wv2bn2cb1i]

Yes that really screwed it up. I stopped watching it after i saw all those people could've got out but didn't.

[@pumpkinspicetrashbag]

Yeah ezra’s performance seems super weird and not cool. Even more so, after this episode, I’m left thinking “okay where is this going?” It’s starting to lose me.

[@DanielRamirez-go1cu]

Starting to lose you? This version of The Stand is cringey af

[@pumpkinspicetrashbag]

@@DanielRamirez-go1cu honestly, I’ve been half paying attention. Whenever I look up from my phone, it usually seem okay. But that ratio is starting to dwindle haha.

[@cynthiagates2200]

You are spot on this episode and take on the Stand is garbage. I don’t understand why they’ve changed so much it’s torture to watch.

[@TheCheekymunkee]

Ahh hell Paul I'm so sorry buddy, you have been phenomenally even and fair to this show, even though it's been a serious misstep, as far as them complaining and de-moneytising you that's just a piss take!, I don't know what to say about trashcan, from the beginning I was really just hoping for an updated version of the tv show back in the day, but they've f*#+-d it over at every turn, all the best buddy, keep up the excellent work 👍

[@heavyspoilers]

Yeah, somehow gets worse and worse every week when it should be getting better as that’s how the book handles it

[@TheCheekymunkee]

@@heavyspoilers I enjoyed some extra scenes this week, Fran in the basement, the woods with Mother A and Tom's escape!, But some others we're horrible, lol, and yea, the dummy in the lift was bad!, Not as bad as the two dummy "kids" Wonder Woman saves in WW84 but still bad! 😂

[@EnkaMexi]

My Friend said: Trash somehow reminds me of the Guy from Jackass who goes like "Kitty Kitty" :D

[@808bunky]

It's absolutely awful. I've invested all this time into the series & now I feel obliged to see the rest of the episodes. CBS did such an atrocious job, I feel compelled to read the damn book again.

[@Ship-security]

when comparing this to the 1994 version, the only character that was portrayed better in the 2020 version was Harold.

[@squirrelwirral1616]

Im actually enjoying this series

[@moniquebarber1474]

Me too. The character was never meant to be Temple Grandin.

[@bethiecrisler720]

Why

[@MandyBuglet]

Me too. I'm a big Fiona Dourif fan :).

[@idaho7370]

Im enjoying it. It not on par with the book. But I'm taking it for what it is and enjoying it.

[@lorrainecampbell6448]

Matt Frewer did an awesome job as Trashcan Man because we were able to see his adoration of Flagg is misplaced zealousness. But there is no personality in either character in this production let alone chemistry that shows the twisted relationship. And Nick's character seems to have been superfluous. There is nothing redemptive about him in this. I did like the forest encounter between Flagg and Mother A.

[@SAIKYOUMC]

CBS have disappointed yet again.

[@JS42081]

I completely disagree! It’s very refreshing that they didn’t go with the 2021 PC bullshit that everything has become. This illustrated evil well! It’s not nice, it’s not pleasant, it’s not fun! We try to paint this picture nowadays how either way you choose, you’ll be fine. Thank you for showing how disturbing and disgusting it really is. Not a huge Ezra fan, but I think all characters where done excellent.

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Nothing wrong with the interpretation....the trash man was kinda crazy cool. Sorry you dont feel that way.

[@algorithmicalychallenged.291]

Over all this show is not good...

[@heavyspoilers]

Just feels like a departure from the book to do a stereotype rather than a character

[@squirrelwirral1616]

I enjoyed Ezras performance too, obviously due too the years of 'Electro' therapy (in the book) he is gonna be erm very mentally challenged, I bet they have more flashbacks for the charcter also, which will be cool, oh and Tom Cullens great also 😁

[@rjone61]

Slightly disagree with your rant. Trashcan man is not disabled but definitely deranged. After years of abuse and electroshock therapy, I don't think his actions were too far off. It's his take on what the history of the character would've grown into. Deranged, pyro, burned up, facial and verbal tics, etc..maybe the loss of your loved one had a little to do with how you viewed it.. Totally understandable.

[@crozraven]

So I was right to hold myself from watching this show ... Such a shame.

[@jesserobinson20]

Also slightly offensive is how Ezra Miller and the writers think so little of the viewers that they need to portray the trashcan man in such a way that he has no nuance. He has to be so over the top as to be comical.

[@stevetran7213]

I was a direct service provider (DSP) at a home for intellectually disabled people, and although Ezra captured some of the behaviors that some individuals have, his portrayal was very one dimensional. The people I helped take care of were just that; people, they have their idiosyncrasies just like anybody else. They were some of the nicest most generous people I had ever encountered. They’re good days and bad days, but even at their worst it was never malicious.

[@FVD]

After Robert Meyer Burnett's early criticisms of the first episode, I'm very hesitant about getting into this Mini-Series. I think I'll go watch the 1994 Mini-Series first instead.