The Star Wars Philosopher’s Guide to Form V of Lightsaber Combat

[@tux75]

I can see why Form V is so popular, it performs well both in duels and on the battlefield and it's only weaknesses are hard to exploit effectively

[@HHLucifer666]

Personally I don't see why anyone would go to form 5 in a duel. For blaster bolts sure but not for lightsabers. That's exactly what makashi was purpose built for so I just don't see why anyone would waste the energy over exerting themselves, hammering away at their opponents. A skilled makashi user can end a fight with a single stroke or thrust. Now I don't deny the power of djem-so but often it gets used simply for its physical power, that I've seen. If someone is going to take to form 5, I'd say take to form 5 with the mentality of a makashi duelist: seek to end the fight in one strike if possible, always make sure your footwork is on point, and be creative with it. Come up with your own moves. It's a martial ART after all

[@AntonNight]

Well, a warrior with deep wells of stamina, resilience and strength would find it quite useful for applying their greatest advantages in a furl. And as Anakin demonstrated, Makashi can be overwhelmed by this form rather easily.

[@HHLucifer666]

@@AntonNight as I stated i don't deny djem-so's power in certain cases. But understand dooku vs anakin in episode 3 is probably the best case study we can draw from as to why djem-so was manufactured. On the flipside of that, it's also the worst for understanding why makashi works AT ALL due to the mitigating circumstances at play during that fight (dookus old age and anakins physique being just 2 of them). But hey, maybe djem-so is actially da G.O.A.T form and maybe I'm just too much of a diehard makashi fan boy to see it. Who knows. Love the discussion tho

[@InfernoCleric384]

@@HHLucifer666 I honestly don't think Makashi can do much against Djem So either way. Makashi is very careful and precise and one critical hit from a Form V user will demolish the precision and blade placing of most Form II users. A few powerful swings and your lightsaber is down. The only case I see for a Form II user being able to resist the power of a Form V user is if the former is physically powerful, and why even use Form II at that point instead of taking advantage of the strength one has. You mentioned that Form V wastes too much energy hammering at the enemy, but if they can bat your lightsaber away, then bye-bye to all your defense! A skilled Form V user can definitely end a lightsaber battle fast.

[@HHLucifer666]

@@InfernoCleric384 makashi only moves the lightsaber as much as it has to where as djem-so imo throws the blade all over the place. I guess for me it's all about keeping both yours and your opponents blades under control

[@andrewgarrett1356]

I think it's really cool how Form V was derived from Form III. I think that's yet another reason why Obi-Wan and Anakin were such good partners in battle. They complemented each other's styles rather well.

[@kaidorade1317]

A fantastic form worthy of the Chosen One but highly weak against Form VIII: The High Ground

[@OhOh996]

Moral of the story: Don't try it!

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Do or do not, there is not try, fool!

[@geetslys]

KENOBIIIIIIII

[@CC--jk6cr]

Form VIII is the most powerful form.

[@adrianb714]

Stop that Cap. Uhh

[@vitorpereira9515]

The form V is the perfect style for wars as the jedi master Kavar said: "You will doubtless encounter many situations with multiple assailants. To better protect yourself from blaster fire without compromising your offensive capabilities, use the Shien form." -KAVAR The form V was the favorite style used by Galen Marek.

[@robertagu5533]

Galen I heard wasn't so much a form 5 as form 7 specialist

[@TheFirstCurse1]

@@robertagu5533 Yeah, Galen highly specialized in Form 7.

[@ultrashadow9551]

​@@robertagu5533Galen used a hybrid form of Soresu, Shien and Juyo.

[@robertagu5533]

@ultrashadow9551 yeah that much I remember an knew.. with being able to switch between single blade, reverse grip style an the Jarkai Double blades reversed grip styles... he's kinda like a double Kali or Knife fighter master of the SW Universe an in his Era of it

[@darylsdesigns6679]

Favorite Form V practitioners: 1. Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader 2. Luke Skywalker 3. Plo Koon 4. Ahsoka Tano 5. Darth Bane 6. Ulic Qel-Droma

[@RaynmanPlays]

That list is quite the endorsement of the form.

[@vitorpereira9515]

And i bet Kyle Katarn and Darth Malgus too.

[@Official_Kayde_Games]

Don’t forget Galen Marek

[@devildavin]

at 6:34 can anyone tell me who those 2 characters are? who the artists is? i think its from a trading card game

[@K.J.Richard]

Darth Revan, Darth Malgus, Galen Marek, Aylaa Secura

[@inquisitorgarza312]

If there was a lightsaber form that was meant to be used in wars and battle it was this one. The fifth form is great combat form in most situations and one that had many famous individuals that use this form and refined it to perfection to be respected and feared.

[@rexlumontad5644]

0:01 Luke: "I'll try posing. That's a good trick."

[@Kyzen_Wrell]

4:10 I have to correct this here, it does NOT Make your strikes more powerful, you use less muscles when striking with your back arm than your forearm. What it DOES allow however is for better motor control and quicker slashes.

[@tyr0316]

I was thinking the exact same thing, like reverse grip is cool and stylish but it’s literally useless realistically, but this is a series about magic space wizards with laser swords so….coolness > practicality

[@-Alpeter]

@@tyr0316 nobody asked

[@saatvikkalra6061]

@@-Alpeter i asked

[@k.a.r.r.7460]

I prefer Form 6 Niman with a heavy emphasis on form 5 Shien and Djemso. Also Ja'Kari : duel saber fighting. Like Exar- Kun, Revan, and Galen Merak.

[@TheDarien77]

Exactly 💯 I would use form 5 as a base and develop my form 6 from it. Kinda like how Maul used 6 as a base for his form 7. But yeah I'm drawn to form 6 mostly for the force integration and Jarkai.

[@k.a.r.r.7460]

@@TheDarien77 same here..like Galen Merak/Starkiller

[@tonywright9906]

@@k.a.r.r.7460 Galen Marek also used Form Vll,Juyo.

[@brickempire4427]

Your video will make a fine addition to my lightsaber training collection….

[@voltage5759]

I have a real sword, and I can confirm that holding it backwards does NOT increase the power of your strikes. But Ahsoka's fighting style is cool enough to ignore that

[@PiercetheUnshucked]

But lightsabers have different physics than a traditional sword

[@Kyzen_Wrell]

What it does do it allow for better motor control and small quick slashes.

[@thrawnedits5860]

@@Kyzen_Wrell it’s also harder to defend against other swords though.

[@Kyzen_Wrell]

@@thrawnedits5860 True. Which is why we often see Ahsoka having to switch grips constantly in her duels.

[@FalconWindblader]

@@PiercetheUnshucked Not in this regard.

[@SuperOnePieceMaster]

Form VI Niman is next. It was the favored form of both Exar Kun and Revan.

[@gabe7362]

1:35 another way to put it is “a failed attack is always better then a failed block”

[@anoobyproaz5616]

Alright, no matter what the force can do, it's not gonna make reverse-grip strikes more powerful than strikes with a lightsaber held the proper way. It's almost dumbfounding to suggest that.

[@Kyzen_Wrell]

What it DOES do though is allow for better motor control and quick slashes. Sadly not everyone gets that and people think it means stronger strikes.

[@zachelkins1229]

People thing reverse grip = Hay maker punch, therefore must be stronk. Of course these people rarely have any experience in any martial art let alone one specializing in swordplay.

[@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl]

@@Kyzen_Wrell the cuts are going to be incredibly shallow

[@Kyzen_Wrell]

@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Not a real issue considering the Lightsaber is a touch weapon

[@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl]

@@Kyzen_Wrell that is just the beginning of the legion of issues. The first is that it would cause you reduced reach which would greatly reduce your defensive and offensive abilities. Not mention that the light saber would be pointing towards you and as you said it's a touch weapon. Meaning the moment that thing touches you by mistake....... You are doomed

[@jeremyleonjonas7657]

I feel Anakin and Plo/Vader showcase the two applications of form V the best. Anakin its raw offensive output while Plo and Vader show its counteroffensive and defensive potential the best. And I am definetly looking forward to the Niman video. The style is often undersold, because its seen as sub par to the other techniques. Its not a specialized form, sure, but masters of it are argueably the most flexible fighters around. With Exar Kun, Revan and Darth Krayt as prominent examples.

[@cjhott7237]

Form VI is probably my favorite Form. The mere fact that it is, by nature, a jack of all trades Form just seems to resonate with me. Random question: What is your favorite Forms? Would you make a hybrid Form?

[@PiercetheUnshucked]

A hybrid between vaapaad and soresu would be my chosen style.

[@cjhott7237]

My personal style would be a Jar Kai Niman base supplemented with Ataru and either Juuyo or Vaapad depending if I went Sith or Jedi.

[@PeteTemplar101]

It's telling that two of the greatest Sith Lords, Exar Kun and Darth Revan were Niman users. It gets overlooked a lot because of its jack of all trades nature, but if mastered, it's the most easily adaptable style, with Makashi being its only hard counter. I enjoyed the descriptors of the New Jedi Order styles as being hybrids, the Fast Style being an exciting blend of Soresu and Ataru, Explosive in quick bursts on a single opponent and the best blaster deflection in those games

[@Kyzen_Wrell]

I definitely would take the force integration and overall mindset of Niman and combine it with the played work of Form V (both variants). Allowing for a more creative and hard hitting flexible form that isn’t afraid to adjust its bulldozing tactics to something more of a trickster.

[@powerofanime1]

If I had to choose a single form to put at the top, it would be Shien. But Makashi is a really damn close second, and if I could hybridize, it would absolutely be Makashi first, Shien second. Because Lightsabers don't need heavy strikes to cut. As for the blades I would have a yellow lightsaber with a Makashi hilt, plus a cortosis cross guard. I would also have a green shoto in my off hand, held in the reverse grip, but I consider that to be more of a hold-out weapon, or the one I would reach to for a saber-throw rather than part of the style. If I was in dire straits and had to use them in Jar-Kai, I wouldn't want to use any of the 7 styles. Instead I would want to use the real-world Espada y Daga style of Italian Fencing!

[@dhaburuk6494]

This series has been awesome. The richness of the content is a blessing to fans of all levels, and the discussions inspires from it are good to see. The philosophy you hold is evidenced in your content. Thank you for your service, Geetsly's team.

[@mesiagamer5217]

It's interesting as we've gotten further in the developed and accepted forms the more the force comes into play and making it work.

[@bakionigeri6414]

I'm IN LOVE with form 5 .

[@amanzeihedioha]

Perseverance...I liked that. Especially for individuals like Vader.

[@HHLucifer666]

Look what it got him when someone whipped out the high ground

[@stars9084]

I’m pretty sure Ahsoka was more of an Ataru user when on the attack than Djem So, though she did defend with Shien

[@RJMazz47]

Ahsoka was smol and fast, she just wasn't really suited for Shien.

[@TheFirstCurse1]

Yeah exactly

[@TheFirstCurse1]

@@RJMazz47 So was Aayla Secura. You don't have to be big for Form V. The Force can enhance your blows and your speed. Physicality means literally NOTHING in Star Wars.

[@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl]

@@TheFirstCurse1 we are talking about light sabers that can cut through anything....... There is no need to have strength behind your blows

[@TheFirstCurse1]

@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Yeah that's true except when you're fighting other lightsaber users or vibroblade users, in which case it STILL doesn't mean jack shit because of what I said before.

[@williamcostigan91]

The problem with form V seems similar to form 2, namely you have to have the right build for it or it'll never work for you. Form 2 practitioners are best built to be wiry and sleek moving with elegance and grace. Form V users seem to be by necessity to be built like tanks, these strong muscle bound juggernauts slowly inexorably beating down an opponent until they run out of the strength to even meet the blows. This does seem to limit the amount of natural form V users, as other forms don't seem to have the innate need for a specific physical state.

[@zachelkins1229]

Not necessarily, there are some physical advantages of course but depending on how much and how you lean on the force a lot of your innate physical prowess could be made up for. Not to discount the importance of training both physical and mental, after all without the right mind set no form will truly work well for you, and it is important to remember all forms can be adapted to the user to make up for physical differences. To elaborate for form 2 a lot of self control is more important than build by far so long as you have good manual dexterity and can gauge the kinds of blows that are inbound your build isn't nearly as important. For form 5 yes physical might is nice, but endurance is even more important to tear down an opponents defenses means you need to out last them more than over power them. Unless your species is particularly slight of frame nearly all skeletal structures would work well for either.

[@FalconWindblader]

That's the case when discounting the use of the Force. With Form 2, bigger, slower creatures could use the Force to augment their perception & reaction times, allowing them to better compensate for having a bigger frame & being physically clumsier. For Form 5, the Force would be used to augment one's strength & speed, allowing one to strike harder & faster than they would physically be able to. The TRUE problem with Form 5, like with Form 4, is that it's an incredibly taxing form to use. Users of form 4 & 5 tire out much quicker than those using form 1-3.

[@cybernite60z98]

Form V is probably my favorite since it has a little of everything that's good and barely any bad

[@isaackim7675]

While on the topic of lightsaber combat, you should do a subject on lightsaber grips. Such as the standard versus the reverse

[@stingywingy1607]

There's not much to say as the reverse grip is essentially useless unless using a shoto or for covering the body from blaster fire (usually with one lightsaber while the other was held up).

[@stealthfire4307]

Hey Geetsly’s are you going to make videos over the other forms, other than 1-7? Like Jar’kai? Or have you already made a video over it?

[@zachelkins1229]

Forms 1-4 already have videos on his channel they are being released weekly

[@an-animal-lover]

@@zachelkins1229 they said " _other_ than 1-7"

[@zachelkins1229]

@@an-animal-lover so they did. My fault for watching/reading on break.

[@tonywright9906]

Impressive.Form V the way of the Kraft Dragon. If not careful Form V can see Jedi become tunnel visioned of dominating their opponents and loosing themselves to Form V’s unchecked emotions. Great video,can’t wait for Form Vll. A video on Teras Kasi is due since it goes well with Ataru Niman and Juyo/Vaapad.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

4:05: And which "Jedi Order" are we referring to? Honestly, I think of that stance as a way to lower the enemy's guard by making them overconfident to try and attack a false opening and to make sure blaster fire from behind won't do much in the long run.

[@zorallens]

I am really enjoying this series! I've always wanted to understand the lightsaber forms, but every time I tried to read about them, they were difficult for me to digest/visualize. The way you've presented all the forms have made it comprehensible for me. Thank you and may the Force be with you!

[@WanderingRagabond]

The reverse grip thing has always been pretty gimmicky. Just try to swing a practice sword that way IRL. It doesn't add power to the swing, it makes it weaker, less accurate and shortens its reach. As for Djem So as a whole, it's definitely the most Kendo-like of the forms, so it's no coincidence that it's the one assigned to both Darth Vader and Luke in the original trilogy. It's the "style" lightsaber combat was originally conceived as, to mirror old samurai movies. The other styles branched out from that. Still in a meta sense, it's kinda perfect that Djem So was assigned to Anakin in his Clone Wars days, because it's so effective at conveying both his growing ruthlessness and his overwhelming power compared to his peers. He is supposed to be the discontented prodigy that becomes an evil juggernaut, after all.

[@SalamiSlowCooked]

Another wonderful video as always. Keep doing what you do 👍

[@darthcheesecake3392]

Looking forward to seeing Form VI and VII covered at some point.

[@archades115]

Where Soresu relied upon active defense, Shein and Djem So relied upon furious defense.

[@godKiller.369]

Very much like samurai styles. Even when Luke starts the fight with Vader in cloud city by taking two sliding steps forward and Vader retreating, that is the exact opening of the first paired sword drill in the Katori Shinto Ryu school.

[@gavinp5042]

If a Jedi fused Shien and Djem So it would make one of the most powerful lightsaber forms, a perfect balance between offense and defense.

[@Kyzen_Wrell]

Except both variants are already equally balanced in offense and defense. It’s just one is meant for blasters and one is meant for Lightsabers.

[@thesenate5913]

both are already a perfect balance Its only just a matter of specialization.

[@Spiralpaladin]

The main weakness of it would be a distinct lack of mobility. Form V is meant for standing one's ground and overwhelming a foe with heavy brute force, which is something that an Ataru user could take advantage of by outmaneuvering them with their enhanced mobility and agility.

[@Kyzen_Wrell]

@@Spiralpaladin But in turn sacrifices more defensive maneuvers in favor of offense. Ataru barely has any defensive moves. Combining it with Form V means that it’d have to sacrifice a tighter guard in favor of an overwhelming blitzkrieg.

[@anthonyp6896]

I have to say I really love the lightsaber forms

[@mattguy1773]

It does fail against the high ground though

[@AxisofFilm]

So true

[@thatman666]

How dare you.

[@lerneanlion]

I wonder how the Jedi memorized all of these forms and keep switching them from time to time in combat. Also, please do a video the Battle of Alderaan during the Great Galactic War, please! Please!

[@greekifreekifan870]

Battlemasters could do that, but most Jedi just specialized.

[@FalconWindblader]

Few, if any, are actually capable of memorizing & using all of the forms. Most just pick one or two & just stick with them, learning just enough of the other forms to let them know what they're dealing with, just like how real martial artists would

[@KirbyBWebb]

Form 5 is like "Raging Bull" to me . I think Steps back with the opponents slash would be in order . Allow THEM to wear them self out .

[@zexalbrony4799]

Yes, can't wait for Form 6! I've really been enjoying this series so far.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Same! So, Whatcha Playin' at this time, what with a recent season finale and hiatus in mind?

[@zexalbrony4799]

@@michaelandreipalon359 Well, I'm going to be reading the fanfics in the meantime while I wait, maybe write one of my own or include Lumity moments in some of my shipping videos like the one I just made for Pride Month. You know, to fill my Owl House need.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Hmm, was expecting you to say the Waiting Game, where you play it on every day on every hour.

[@zexalbrony4799]

@@michaelandreipalon359 Well, that too.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Really can't believe it's Amphibia's "True Colors" all over again. Also can't believe both that show and this are truly set with the same Earth in mind. That sure was jarringly funny and,I don't know, hypeworthy despite the depressing cliffhanger.

[@keatonburton5636]

Form V is my preferred lightsaber form.

[@sab3redg333]

May the force have mercy on whoever faces anakin wielding form V

[@digitalunity]

This is a really enjoyable series. I don't seem to catch it the day it comes out, but it's always a nice addition to my day

[@DarkRider117]

YES!!! Lol since you started this videos I’ve been waiting for this one it’s my favorite thanks man

[@JBTriple8]

yeah Form III & Form V are my favorites both compliment each other

[@ragingocelot4013]

Form 4’s mobility mixed with Form 5’s defense and aggressive=deadly not to mention the counter aspect

[@greatazuredragon]

Nice video, thanks for the update.

[@aricstradtmann9972]

Form2: dance around the opponent’s defense Form4: overwhelm and confuse your opponent with multiple quick strikes form very angle Form5: smash through your opponent

[@powerofanime1]

Loved it! Can't wait for the next one!

[@zachelkins1229]

So far form 2 and 5 seem the most like what I've had experience with. Though for obvious reasons none of the forms engage with grappling in the way I'm familiar with with regards to swordplay.

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

Loving this series! I get so excited every time I see an update lol

[@mrtollin4943]

Very informative. Ty

[@eeurr1306]

3:33 Surrendo, ah yes.

[@alejandromolina7270]

So which variation would you like? I think I would prefer Shien. It seems more practical than Djem So.

[@SenVerweij]

Great vid!

[@cybernite60z98]

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN THINKING FOREVER THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT CLONE TROOPER 5555

[@theindooroutdoorsman]

Now we're on the only real form worth using. My fav, Shien.

[@candlecandle-lz4qz]

I’ve been looking forward to this

[@goldeagle6431]

The Senate deserves an entire guide to himself.

[@unknownghost3145]

I’ve been waiting for this video, my favorite form! Though the only weakness it has for me is to choose which type to specialize in. Would you chosen *Shien* or *Diem-so* as your primary focus?

[@Kyzen_Wrell]

You can specialize in both y’know. Put equal effort into both. They’re not too dissimilar as Anakin employed Shien against Dooku in Ep. 2 and Ulic Qel-Droma had no problem with blaster fire.

[@unknownghost3145]

@@Kyzen_Wrell of course, but they're actually both different schools and styles. Usually duelists would put in other forms together to make their own style, but they always primarily focus on 1 specific form throughout their style like their beginning stance. Also Anakin, only used Shien in the begin to catch Count Dooku off guard, by using the form he used on Genosis to fool the count on using his similar strategy all those years ago, but then he quickly when back to his prefer Diem-so form, and you pretty much know what happened.

[@FalconWindblader]

The ACTUAL weakness with Form 5, like Form 4, is that it's shit taxing on the mind & body to use. With that said, the TRUE issue to address here is to put a lot of effort into honing one's physical & mental endurance, even before thinking of picking the form up.

[@KIRB881]

Form V and Form 6 are the best forms

[@theromanorder]

This reminds me of when lazy purple made a joke about if u destroy the enemy team they can harm your medi... this form is that

[@Spartan3D213]

Cant wait for form6.

[@rexlumontad5644]

The good offense is the best defense

[@seventus]

7:45 from Jedi academy or even Moviebattles II ?!

[@robertbarrows6687]

Could you do a compare and contrast of how Darth Vader is portrayed in Legends and Canon since Legends Vader seems like the far weaker version to the canon one.

[@christopherhanton6611]

Ashoka Tano took From 5 to max you see that in clone wars and her show doing it with two blades

[@clarenceweaver1820]

Form 3: BLOCK! Form 5: COUNTER!

[@-Alpeter]

Ashoka did learn from the best so it would make sense.

[@renewagain6956]

Pretty sure Ahsoka used Jar'kai.

[@romancapulus5577]

When I first started learning about lightsaber combat, I always overlooked Form V Never again

[@M4j0rZ3r0]

I thought Ashoka primarily used form IV?

[@rctemp34]

Honestly, I would believe that Form 5 would be like the samurai

[@briandonovan2976]

I’m looking forward to form 6

[@theromanorder]

So basically the definition of a good defense is a great offense and the form has a second independent offense?

[@jackieanderson9408]

Sweet 👍👍

[@devildavin]

6:34 who is Aayla fighting?

[@elijahcaro4774]

Didn’t you do something like this back in 2016?

[@topdog5252]

I look forward to form 6

[@mrglasselijahprice4512]

Does it work agaisnt the course rough and irritating sand that gets everywhere? And the highground?

[@HiiVibeENT]

*coarse

[@vangard9725]

Lightsaber gaming

[@Grid433]

Luke skywalker said compassion was key to mastering this. How does that play into the philosophy

[@Kevin-qj7fp]

the best form for lightsaebr duels is form 2 +5 form2 percision and control form 5 power and strength for blasters form 5+ 3 form 5 power and strength form3 blaster deflection

[@Kevin-qj7fp]

and add form 7 from mace windu .................... hmmmmm

[@ANexus21]

Djem so feels more like ataru, while shien feels more like soresu.

[@frosticle6409]

Is this voice Ai generated? I can’t hold my curiosity anymore. The exact same voice is used on the channel The Front sometimes. Or does this guy do a lot of different channel voiceovers? Some other channels I can’t remember the name of too.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Do I like Form V? Yes. Am I looking forward to Form VI? No. Form VII, however...

[@RRLVdO]

Forms 1 neutral 2 WATER 💧 3 EARTH 🌲 4 AIR 💨 5 FIRE 🔥 6 LIGHT ☉ 7 DARKNESS 💀 0 heart ❤

[@michaelandreipalon359]

What about Friendship?

[@RRLVdO]

@@michaelandreipalon359 thats the form 0 heart ❤

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Right...

[@bretthansen3739]

This series continues to be great! It was nice to hear both variants of form 5 discussed, and I'm really looking forward to hearing about forms 6 and 7.

[@rmcgowa1987]

Shien needed to be discussed form 5 without shien has no defense against blasters

[@michaelandreipalon359]

If only we can do well on this Form on the Dark Forces Saga of games, among others. Stupid decreasing Force "mana levels".

[@masterkenobi8753]

Form V is no match for higher elevation!

[@chrisreilly1290]

Sounds like Starkiller used this

[@jeffersongray9356]

So Form 5 is a basically made from Form 2 + Form 3? Go figure.

[@robertagu5533]

Think this one an form 7 are my favorites. I wonder.. IF since THIS is basically the attacking form and form 3 was the defensive form. IF Anakin had been regarded as THE absolute Form 5 Master to be of his time an Jedi Order the way his Master Kenobi was regarded as THE Form 3 Master to be like would the 2 Force Users basically been able to go on about forever OR would Dark Anakin been able to overpower Kenobi alot sooner then first thought? Since his lack of experience and mastery of his Saber form is probably large part of why it was taking so long to defeat Kenobi since he excelled as the Orders BEST when it came to Defense but Anakin was merely A attacker instead of THE attacker.

[@slackershrub8923]

Lol thumbnail error

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Hm, interesting.

[@TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce]

I just do German Longsword techniques and call it Djem So lol

[@vladimirgjorgievski6647]

Actually "There is no emotion, my ass..."...

[@jamesgreear4247]

How could reverse grip be more powerful? It literally is the most compromised way that your wrist loses leverage advantage.!! use another excuse for reverse grip don’t use more powerful. That’s stupid.

[@funkytownjedi]

😂