THE STARSHIP TROOPERS MOVIES - From Iconic to Garbage (there's 5 of them...)

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Elvis The Alien

Elvis The Alien

Ай бұрын

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@ElvistheAlien
@ElvistheAlien Ай бұрын
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@volterkeg
@volterkeg Ай бұрын
If you liked helldivers 2, then you might like earth defense force.
@philmacropulos6875
@philmacropulos6875 Ай бұрын
The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand. MEDIC!!😂😂
@lastchance4237
@lastchance4237 Ай бұрын
theres actually a starship troopers game
@DevilFan669
@DevilFan669 Ай бұрын
i haven't seen any of the Starship Troopers except for the original film though and i loved that one so far
@taravati181
@taravati181 Ай бұрын
Traitor of Mars was really good
@mostmelon8243
@mostmelon8243 Ай бұрын
You were actually right. The director specifically stated that he chose a cast of very beautiful young people for specifically this reason.
@flattard7007
@flattard7007 Ай бұрын
So where did the director say that they didn’t want brown people like Elvis is claiming?
@joecrazy9896
@joecrazy9896 Ай бұрын
Funnily enough, Rico is supposed to be Filipino in the book. But ol'Paul never read that far ahead to find that out.
@hysterioneh1526
@hysterioneh1526 Ай бұрын
@@flattard7007 Least obvious youtube comment bait, and I'll happily fall for it. I dont think making observations such as everyone cast is incredibly beautiful and so happen to be white, infers that Elvis is stating that they simply chose not to cast brown people. (which they did, if you watched the very funny and edumacational video)
@brya9681
@brya9681 Ай бұрын
​@@flattard7007 Wtf are you talking about?
@Leo_Art1989
@Leo_Art1989 Ай бұрын
@@flattard7007Probably just pandering
@raendelvt
@raendelvt Ай бұрын
Starship Troopers sequels? There are no sequels. That's just a collective hallucination. Yes. That movie is amazing and so iconic.
@redwiltshire1816
@redwiltshire1816 Ай бұрын
I actually enjoyed the second one and never even knew there was a third one
@theokayishgamer
@theokayishgamer Ай бұрын
Invasion is kinda fun, albeit obviously nowhere near as good as the first movie.
@hesgoneplaid6478
@hesgoneplaid6478 Ай бұрын
Traitor of mars is goofy in a fun way
@taravati181
@taravati181 Ай бұрын
traitor of mars is really good
@DEFxRECON
@DEFxRECON Ай бұрын
Just like Pacific Rim. Wish that movie had a sequel.
@NightmareDetective
@NightmareDetective Ай бұрын
The director absolutely has stated he chose various actors and actresses for the roles because of how conventionally beautiful they were, driving the point that joining will make you a gorgeous hero of the federation just like they are. It’s why all of the military scenes are shown specific ways and the soldiers and commercials up until exactly at the 1 hour mark, which is exactly when they land on Klendathu and the entire tone of the film shifts. Genius work.
@undeadarmy19
@undeadarmy19 20 күн бұрын
Paul Verhoeven, was born in 1938 in Amsterdam. When he was 5yo his family moved to "The Hague", which was where the Not-See (I know its not spelled correctly. I'm avoiding the YT algorithm) Germans were headquartered in The Netherlands. He grew to hate the Not-Sees. The movie has a lot of Not-See imagery in it. For example, when the soldiers are all saying "I'm doing my part", this comes from a propaganda film from Not-See Germany called 'Triumph Des Willens', or 'Triumph of the Will' in English. They had the German line "I'm doing my part" in that movie, which is why you see it in this movie. As for the casting of Casper Van Dien and Denise Richards, Paul Verhoeven wanted the actors to look like the people in Leni Riefenstahl's movie 'Triumph of the Will.' That film was supposed to show the "superiority" of the Not-See party and the Aryan race. Verhoeven wanted "an exaggerated look that ended up making the actors look more like caricatures than real flesh-and-blood soldiers"
@williammoore1030
@williammoore1030 Ай бұрын
They wasn’t celebrating Neil Patrick Harris being able to tell the bug was afraid, they were celebrating that they now knew bugs could feel fear.
@jessejennings3828
@jessejennings3828 28 күн бұрын
He's also wrong about their society being fascist.
@jacksonconstantine5740
@jacksonconstantine5740 28 күн бұрын
@@jessejennings3828exactly. It’s a militarist federation where national service grants citizenship rights. Sargon of Akkad has a magnum opus breaking down SST at a way more big-brain level than Elvis is capable of.
@AbdefFable1
@AbdefFable1 26 күн бұрын
​@@jessejennings3828gonna need to contact his local democracy officer for treasonous talk it seems
@jessejennings3828
@jessejennings3828 26 күн бұрын
@@AbdefFable1 just flag my comment and KZbin will censor me.
@rowaystarco
@rowaystarco 24 күн бұрын
No he's not.@@jessejennings3828
@VolatileVolcarona
@VolatileVolcarona Ай бұрын
Remember when the teacher said that the bugs have no fear during the dissection scene? That's why Neil Patrick Harris says it's afraid it is really significant. They believed that the bugs couldn't fear humans, which made them a more affective army.
@1Ashram
@1Ashram Ай бұрын
The millions of Drones cannot feel fear, as it is shown dyieng in waves only to continue climbing corpses, the only bug able have the brain matter to feel fear is the brain bug which is also the control center of the drones, like a Queen is to Ants.
@KageRyuu6
@KageRyuu6 Ай бұрын
@@1Ashram Except that's not how ant colonies work, the Queen is just the reproductive organ of the colony, the Workers are the real "hive mind" behind the colony, and everything they do is based on instinct and pheromone trails.
@mrcheesemunch
@mrcheesemunch Ай бұрын
@@1Ashram...that doesn't mean they don't fear lol they're an army, by your logic here any army that ever advances on another simply doesn't have fear. I guess all the guys that stormed the beaches at Normandy weren't human since they weren't scared of running in to danger. That's how war works, the bugs are soldiers defending their species.
@Barnesofthenorth
@Barnesofthenorth Ай бұрын
I mean in story it means something, but its also like another pot shot at fascism that they capture an enemy leader, and cheer that they are terrified.
@samamies88
@samamies88 Ай бұрын
@@Barnesofthenorth I think u got it. The way they cheer about it is like they achieved something. Like the fact that they are afraid is a victory of itself. The end goal. (Ofc the actual end goal is to wipe all the bugs but to them this was moral victory: now they know that bugs are able to be afraid AND that humans are seem frightening to them).
@0verWay
@0verWay Ай бұрын
The reason why they avoided ground vehicles, if I recall correctly, was because 1. the vibrations would be dead givaways of their positions and that the bugs would swarm or trap the vehicles in ground traps anyway, rendering them inefficient in terms of costs and materials, and 2. the terrains on most bug planets were too bad and hard to maneuver around with ground vehicles. Would you like to know more?
@WallyWachell
@WallyWachell Ай бұрын
No
@ShroomyTheOne
@ShroomyTheOne Ай бұрын
Bro is THE starship trooper
@Vic-fo2hm
@Vic-fo2hm Ай бұрын
That does make a lot of sense. In my head I thought it was symbolic of how throw away the mobile infantry is viewed throughout the movie. All the quotes about them being expendable and when they enlist the line "fresh meat for the grinder?" Like they were not worth the expense of more advanced equipment. I'm sure you're right but that along with maybe conveying the war machine's inefficiency as well.
@siamzero9480
@siamzero9480 Ай бұрын
1. Hovercraft 2. I see no swamps there, vehicles will not get stuck
@mrviking2mcall212
@mrviking2mcall212 Ай бұрын
Bugs found the soldiers and eviscerated them all anyway. Might as well bring the thunder.
@mmonsturr
@mmonsturr Ай бұрын
Someone probably said this already, but the line "Come on, you sons-o'-bitches, do you want to live forever?" comes from the battle of Belleau Wood where the Germans had basically just went around French defenses through the woods. Two-time medal of honor awardee Dan Daily yelled the line as he led US Marines into battle against the overwhelming German assault. Just thought it was a cool nod to a real historical event that has taken on mythic proportions in the US Military
@terrified057t4
@terrified057t4 27 күн бұрын
Yeah fr cool line for the 1st, then the continued is also fine by me, cheap but alright. How can you try and 1-up that badass of a line?
@SuperRayW
@SuperRayW Ай бұрын
The opening classroom scene isn't about the benefits of violence, it's about the reality of violence.
@jacksonconstantine5740
@jacksonconstantine5740 28 күн бұрын
And that violence and politics are inextricably linked, as they are both expressions of the force of will, whether by the state or the individual
@stephengrigg5988
@stephengrigg5988 26 күн бұрын
It's also the only point where we see Rico even slightly conflicted about his place in life, and what his society is.
@intlidave
@intlidave 2 күн бұрын
“Laws without enforced consequences are merely suggestions.” ― Ron Brackin
@rogerskitt1542
@rogerskitt1542 Ай бұрын
The fact the bug was "afraid" was a huge deal. At the time everyone thought the brain bug was the highest in the chain, the fact it was scared would impact all the versions it controls via the hive mind ( again, who they thought ran shit lol)
@franzosisch5965
@franzosisch5965 Ай бұрын
Not sure why he thought that was weird. He points out in the beginning when the teacher lady says the bugs don't feel fear.
@rogerskitt1542
@rogerskitt1542 Ай бұрын
@@franzosisch5965 agreed, the whole reason the bugs were feared so much was ironically thier lack of fear and just zerg tactics.
@brya9681
@brya9681 Ай бұрын
​@@franzosisch5965 you literally bought into the propaganda. They said that just to placate the people to joining up to fight the aliens and ignore that THEY were the invaders
@invidatauro8922
@invidatauro8922 Ай бұрын
@@brya9681 How? They weren't at war with the bugs at the time and the teacher was complimenting the bugs, saying they were better than humans. How is that effective propaganda?
@Darkgun231
@Darkgun231 Ай бұрын
@@invidatauro8922Could just have been bad science/ faulty information. They were in public school, after all.
@dovidstaples9985
@dovidstaples9985 Ай бұрын
Just automatically flagging 1 star reviews on weapons for "treason". That's just an awesome way for the game to stay in character I love it
@raven75257
@raven75257 15 күн бұрын
To clarify, for those who don't play the game, those reviews are fake. You can't actually review items in the game
@rannnoch
@rannnoch 9 күн бұрын
@@raven75257 wow thanks i was just about to piss myself and shit myself and cry really hard
@1wayroad935
@1wayroad935 27 күн бұрын
My brain canon is that the movie is an actual in-universe movie to sell the legend of Johnny Rico.
@terrified057t4
@terrified057t4 27 күн бұрын
I mean yeah totes agree, for the entire movie we're from the view of some kind of internet.
@doomsdayadams
@doomsdayadams Ай бұрын
Clancy Brown is a National Treasure.
@FishFingers151
@FishFingers151 Ай бұрын
So, no Liber-tea?
@smugjug3
@smugjug3 Ай бұрын
MY LEG!!!!
@dovidstaples9985
@dovidstaples9985 Ай бұрын
Only libercoffee
@Hopemaxxing_For_My_Chair
@Hopemaxxing_For_My_Chair Ай бұрын
Liber-coke.
@kazuyatitan35
@kazuyatitan35 Ай бұрын
Only liber-tears
@TiredEyes024
@TiredEyes024 Ай бұрын
Democracy operates on coffee and nicotine alone
@PartyPinda87
@PartyPinda87 Ай бұрын
The actors were chosen because of their looks. It was too portrait the idealic world it was. That it was perfect.
@thecarrierpigeon6657
@thecarrierpigeon6657 Ай бұрын
​@57spitfire57 almost as if its a satire about the American propaganda machine and nazism
@justaguyonyoutube4592
@justaguyonyoutube4592 Ай бұрын
@@57spitfire57 The part around 9:40 would say otherwise. Try again.
@vivs9314
@vivs9314 Ай бұрын
@@57spitfire57lmao there’s more diversity in that movie than many movies today…
@Leo_Art1989
@Leo_Art1989 Ай бұрын
@@57spitfire57cope
@samuelgeaney7556
@samuelgeaney7556 29 күн бұрын
​@@57spitfire57 is it bad if they're all white? Sounds like you have a bit of a racist mind set
@NickyBlue99
@NickyBlue99 Ай бұрын
My dad took me and my brother to see this in theaters back when I was 12 years old and my brother was 9. The ticket person was like.... are you sure you want to see this movie...? You're kids look young. I loved the movie, my brother as well
@Wadenbeisser24
@Wadenbeisser24 Ай бұрын
The "Its AFRAID" scene is important because they never found a bug before that could have fear. As you said yourself in the video, they were assumed to be perfect soldiers.
@nickdavidurban
@nickdavidurban Ай бұрын
The instructional video on how to kill a bug (performed in a completely controlled no-risk environment) is a nice ironic commentary on - well - commentary; "Why didn't the characters in these insane life-threatening situations not behave like someone NOT in these insane life-threatening situations?"
@blue-vr8dd
@blue-vr8dd 28 күн бұрын
icl I thought for a moment that it wasn't even real. the CG in that scene is not great, and it's one of the few instances they actually use CG rather than practical for the bugs. if I recall correctly, CG was only ever used for multiple bugs at the same time, or bugs they couldn't fully make as practical effects. I initially thought they just fuckin made it up lmao
@testedhawk
@testedhawk 28 күн бұрын
It's fantastic too because the viewers have NO IDEA where the fucking brain stem is in the bugs. You'd think it's the head, but then he starts shooting it in the middle
@terrified057t4
@terrified057t4 27 күн бұрын
@@testedhawk and clips an claw/arm/leg???/appendage off like bro what how is that the brain stem?
@rowaystarco
@rowaystarco 24 күн бұрын
Nah, they used CG more than that. But closeups were totally models/animatronics a lot of the time, but for walking creatures it was hard to do it in real life. The first invasion scenes were helped a lot by it being set in the dark. @@blue-vr8dd
@rowaystarco
@rowaystarco 24 күн бұрын
It also clearly shows how insanely incompetent the military is. They don't bomb first, they don't use armored vehicles. It's a high possibility that they just sacrificed a bunch of soldiers on purpose to make people more engaged in the war. The government in the movie is driven by war.
@gannonpatton2858
@gannonpatton2858 Ай бұрын
Ever since I saw SST in middle school circa 2003, I've used "I'm doing my part!" an innumerable amount of times.
@Silentpoppy
@Silentpoppy 29 күн бұрын
when my boss at work asks me how im doing I always say I'm doing my part! I don't think he gets the reference tho XD
@favoritemustard3542
@favoritemustard3542 29 күн бұрын
@Silentpoppy try & secret santa the DVD to yer boss lol
@Scorch052
@Scorch052 Ай бұрын
9:49 In the book, this is easily explained by the mobile infantry actually having advanced exosuits that allow them to basically hop around incredibly quickly. My guess is ole Paul just took this and ran with it because having a bunch of extras in costume running around honestly looks more impressive and is probably a lot cheaper.
@robiiify
@robiiify 29 күн бұрын
The director did not read the book if I am remembering correctly
@Nomisdoowtsae
@Nomisdoowtsae 29 күн бұрын
They had the money to do good CGI bugs or the power armour but not both.
@emperorcokelord1021
@emperorcokelord1021 29 күн бұрын
​@@robiiifyHe didn't
@wednesdayapril5435
@wednesdayapril5435 29 күн бұрын
​@@robiiifyif i remember he read 1/3 way through mistook it as pro fascist then stopped and decided to make the movie to shit on fascism
@blue-vr8dd
@blue-vr8dd 28 күн бұрын
​@@wednesdayapril5435 I never heard that. I only remember hearing/reading him say that he thought the book was boring as fuck but the concept was good, so he wanted to make it an action movie. wasn't the book a similar way in it's satire of fascism?
@matteodelapaz1698
@matteodelapaz1698 27 күн бұрын
I like how Helldivers 2 got more recognition and player base than the actual Starship Troopers games
@terrified057t4
@terrified057t4 27 күн бұрын
Yeah that Starship Troopers game that came out recently blew up for like, a few days maybe a week? HD2 GOING STRONG LET'S GO
@ifadetogray
@ifadetogray Ай бұрын
The animated sequel was the best sequel, for what it's worth
@ifadetogray
@ifadetogray Ай бұрын
Traitor of Mars is the best one, the other animated one is also better than two or three in retrospect.
@michaell8269
@michaell8269 Ай бұрын
Wasn’t there an animated series? I seem to recall a ST animated series in the mid to late 90s, right around when I was watching Beast Wars.
@Calcoro
@Calcoro Ай бұрын
@@michaell8269Yep! Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles. It was amazing.
@NiceandAccurateMoose
@NiceandAccurateMoose Ай бұрын
​@@michaell8269 I grew up watching the animated series before I ever knew there was a movie. The whole series is actually available online for free! I'm actively collecting the DVD releases to add to my SST shelf.
@chrislail3824
@chrislail3824 Ай бұрын
@@michaell8269yes, Roughnecks - and it’s a continuation of the book and very good.
@npcimknot958
@npcimknot958 Ай бұрын
3:29 it is, in the commentary the director said it’s propaganda that’s why everyone is so pretty.. it’s building a fantasy so you’d join. It’s all deliberate
@jamg25
@jamg25 Ай бұрын
Join for the pretty people, stay for the libertarian paradise!
@viscountrainbows2857
@viscountrainbows2857 29 күн бұрын
For a critique of fascism, it makes fascism look like the way to unite humanity. Verhoeven may have dropped the ball on making the military industrial complex the glue that literally prevents racism, sexism, etc., or not. It gets muddy when political nonsense gets involved, invariably, but I still think the message is effective in the OG as, "If we have a common enemy, we'll be too busy to fight each other" or someshit.
@andreadeluca9742
@andreadeluca9742 29 күн бұрын
​@@viscountrainbows2857 if you are blind, sure.
@viscountrainbows2857
@viscountrainbows2857 29 күн бұрын
@@andreadeluca9742 Oh I can see. And if you read my comment, I am open to being wrong so, I am if anything, blinded by the open nature of interpretation.
@darcon5836
@darcon5836 29 күн бұрын
@@viscountrainbows2857 it doesn't help that the director never read the book nor the person he told to read it to give him an over view. People can't really point to what is purely fascism in the movie that doesn't have a counter point, leaders take responsibility when they screw up and a new one gets voted in, people think they don't have human rights but no one is forced to take military service even when at war with the bugs and some characters even actively make sure they the recruits know what they are getting into. People will mention it is because the director says he made the movie that way but doesn't mean he didn't fail utterly at it. Unless someone told you what it was supposed to be you wouldn't know like everyone else watching the movie when it first came out.
@actionvestadventure
@actionvestadventure Ай бұрын
I like how Michael Ironside's character from Total Recall loses his arms (See you at the party, Richter!). In Starship Troopers, he loses his legs.
@antonakesson
@antonakesson 29 күн бұрын
And he had already lost his arm XD
@tio_john
@tio_john 29 күн бұрын
The opening scene isn't about the benefits of violence, it's about violence as the primordial force that gives space for the other kinds of force we follow.
@velahtielredfang9417
@velahtielredfang9417 Ай бұрын
Special shoutout to Starship Troopers 1988, which is a 6 part anime and has a really good soundtrack.
@PrimarchBentley
@PrimarchBentley Ай бұрын
It's some good Sunrise in action - the suits are well designed and much more like the book. Kind of a shame most of the OVA is pre-war though...
@funkrobot9762
@funkrobot9762 Ай бұрын
In the book they had powered suits, with y rack atomic missile launchers on their shoulders. They could boost and jump around like armored core kinda, had flamethrowers on their hand units.
@viscountrainbows2857
@viscountrainbows2857 29 күн бұрын
Man that sounds like a fun game. Someone should make it....... tehee
@elaichi_wtf
@elaichi_wtf 29 күн бұрын
@@viscountrainbows2857 i mean there is a starship troopers game in early access but i don't know if it will have mecs in it lol
@viscountrainbows2857
@viscountrainbows2857 29 күн бұрын
@@elaichi_wtf If they aren't employing mech units in combat against massive bugs, I'll eat my head. And yours too.
@r3dr4te963
@r3dr4te963 28 күн бұрын
It remind me to Exo-squad
@elaichi_wtf
@elaichi_wtf 27 күн бұрын
@@viscountrainbows2857 i am not sure if they even have the massive bugs at this point or not lmao, oh mah god my head is in danger, please don't gobble it up
@frantictoast3741
@frantictoast3741 Ай бұрын
"Where are all the tanks?" Elvis, it's called the mobile INFANTRY lol
@emperorcokelord1021
@emperorcokelord1021 29 күн бұрын
In the book, they are the tank
@blakeprocter5818
@blakeprocter5818 29 күн бұрын
In real life, mechanised infantry is a thing, and tanks are almost always directly supported by infantry. So it would still make sense for the Mobile Infantry to have vehicle support.
@rowaystarco
@rowaystarco 24 күн бұрын
Real life "mobile" aka mechanized infantry will use vehicles like Bradleys, CV90 and so on.
@harleyjay338
@harleyjay338 Ай бұрын
when zim starts training the cadets and yells "this is a live fire exercise" the way he says it has been stuck in my head since i was 7 years old (im now 30) haha love the first movie so much
@spectraldragon09
@spectraldragon09 Ай бұрын
Helldivers and starship troopers are amazing
@favoritemustard3542
@favoritemustard3542 29 күн бұрын
It almost felt like this vid had 2 sponsors!
@alexanderweir2382
@alexanderweir2382 Ай бұрын
I literally watched "starship troopers" for the first time yesterday
@darklelouchg8505
@darklelouchg8505 28 күн бұрын
I recommend watching Sargon of Akkads deconstruction of Starship Troopers. It goes a long way in showing why people's initial understanding of the film; as well as Veerhoven's attempt to satirize Heinlein's novel, falls flat and rests upon either misunderstanding or deliberate ignorance of the underlying philosophical principles.
@justinholz480
@justinholz480 Ай бұрын
Firefly reused the armor from Starship Troopers. Imagine Jane and Rico teaming up. :D
@ghostme1635
@ghostme1635 Ай бұрын
Paul Verhoven is the man. Robocop and total recall kick ass too
@zombie5505
@zombie5505 Ай бұрын
I also agree
@emperorcokelord1021
@emperorcokelord1021 29 күн бұрын
The only thing I don't like about him is the fact that he didn't read the rest of Starship Troopers
@albertonavarro8904
@albertonavarro8904 23 күн бұрын
He didn't read it and got a summary because he was mostly parodying the book, he didn't want to make a 1 to 1 adaptation of it. He wanted the movie to be satire, but the book isn't.
@NoodlesBeforeDinner
@NoodlesBeforeDinner Ай бұрын
Elvis, ever heard of "Feeders?" It will challenge you on a first watch, but then you and your wife will watch it every year multiple times like my wife and I do. You're welcome, sir.
@joshrosberg
@joshrosberg Ай бұрын
Not even a mention of the cartoon Roughnecks: The Starship Troopers Chronicles. It was much better than it had any right to be.
@MrIamKindofabigdeal
@MrIamKindofabigdeal Ай бұрын
Loved this show
@Aussie_Tom
@Aussie_Tom Ай бұрын
I still baffles me that they decided Starship Troopers would be a good basis for what's essentially a kids breakfast cartoon.
@Zurvan1947
@Zurvan1947 29 күн бұрын
It was on some weird channel near me at 530AM on Sundays of all times. It was an interesting series.
@Awesomeuserdude
@Awesomeuserdude 23 күн бұрын
I loved that when I was younger, though I was so bummed out that the last arc was never finished. I might check it out again, see if it holds up and is as good as I remember it being.
@thundersoul6795
@thundersoul6795 14 күн бұрын
@@Awesomeuserdude It's certainly aged, but for a '99 thing it's still pretty good.
@ElectroBooze
@ElectroBooze 28 күн бұрын
Ordered to have fun….. Oh yes. I remember my unit had “Mandatory Fun Day” in Iraq. It sounds like I’m joking, but I’m not. Our unit actually had a day where if we weren’t on a specific duty like gateguard or some other duty required for security and function of our FOB, you were to be in your company’s area participating in whatever events they were holding. My company, since we had a pool, had lazing around in the pool. We had volleyball, cards, domino tourneys, or just sitting and doing whatever you wanted as long as you were in the company area. When I was a kid watching this movie, I was like “No way that happens.” After my time in the Army, I don’t even think twice about it.
@jamesbounds
@jamesbounds Ай бұрын
The first Star Ship Troopers film is a classic. Never saw the others.
@favoritemustard3542
@favoritemustard3542 29 күн бұрын
I think I heard about the 2nd one, but never had any interest. Still have my VHS of SST, though.
@bobjoe1343
@bobjoe1343 Ай бұрын
YODA SAYING "BEEAATCCH" GOT ME LMAO!!!
@L1ncore
@L1ncore Ай бұрын
Starship troopers is one of my fave movies, I honestly refuse to watch the sequels out of fear they’ll ruin the original for me lol. Excited to watch you do it for us 😂
@franzosisch5965
@franzosisch5965 Ай бұрын
The second one, other than the awful cgi replacing the part cgi part model from the first movie, is alright if a bit goofy. Also, the captain lady from the first movie plays a soldier in it which confused me when I first watched it.
@BishopGG
@BishopGG Ай бұрын
I'd say watch the animes if you are into them. Very good
@taravati181
@taravati181 Ай бұрын
traitor of mars is really good and worth a watch
@desicatedlimbs
@desicatedlimbs Ай бұрын
I unironically watched this movie in irony because I was raised on Star Wars and Lost in Space and Alien (it was told to me, I didn't watch it till I was 17 in 2009 🥲) so I grew up on a very... space is your friend way. Star kid and Disney space stuff, I honestly love starship troopers because it is so insanely satirical realistic. The goofy ads they play us on military, and knowing many vets they will tell you "do not, join". It's horrifying entertainment.
@L1ncore
@L1ncore Ай бұрын
@@BishopGG i did start watching part of the anime awhile ago and it was interesting. May actually watch it in full some day
@homefront1999
@homefront1999 26 күн бұрын
Fun fact about Starship troopers. It's reported that the US military was looking for a new primary assault rifle to equip troops with. A gun specifically was liked very much by the Heckler & Koch company. But the military said something along the lines of " Make it look more like Starship troopers" And this is how we got the Heckler & Koch XM8. Which was never actually adopted by the US military. But is seen a lot in video games. Just another thing that Starship Troopers managed to influence.
@Aredel
@Aredel 3 күн бұрын
You didn't happen to watch Fat Electrician's video about the matter, did you?
@Venters
@Venters 8 күн бұрын
NPH's line about the brain bug being afraid was a call back to the biology teacher saying how bugs were perfect in that they do what they are told without fear. So NPH revealing that the bugs can be afraid was showing that the bugs were not invincible.
@jaysnraddatz9140
@jaysnraddatz9140 Ай бұрын
It's crazy that earlier this morning, I discovered that there was more than just the one Starship Troopers movie. Now coincidentally, Elvis posts a video covering most of the Starship Troopers movies. This man is looking out for us for real.
@jaysnraddatz9140
@jaysnraddatz9140 Ай бұрын
@@AlyxEld you right
@toytacambery9427
@toytacambery9427 Ай бұрын
Dan Daly USMC The "you wanna live forever" quote comes from 2 time Medal of Honor recipient Dan Daly. It was when the US was in WW1, Daly's unit was in the Battle of Beleau Wood while the frontline didn't move for either side for months. Apparently, without orders to advance, he stood up and said "come on, you sons of bitches! Do you wanna live forever?" before charging bayonet first at the German line. His men, naturally took the hint and followed.
@BarryHart-xo1oy
@BarryHart-xo1oy 29 күн бұрын
Good to know.
@eric50gobucks
@eric50gobucks 28 күн бұрын
Don’t forget to mention. It worked and the Germans were driven completely taken off guard and driven out of Bellau wood
@skyhunter2816
@skyhunter2816 27 күн бұрын
Cool.
@alex9033
@alex9033 Ай бұрын
I still have to a plaid whoever decided to put the guy who directed Robocop in charge of adapting Starship Troopers. Absolutely insane idea that worked out great.
@db9635
@db9635 Ай бұрын
I watched Starship Troopers a few weeks ago and I really enjoyed it, the next day I watched the second one as well. After seeing Starship Troopers 2, all I could think was ". . . that was just among us." This is a testament to my brain rot more than anything
@rowaystarco
@rowaystarco 24 күн бұрын
Starship troopers 2 and Among us are just The thing really. Among us even has that winter base map. 😅
@db9635
@db9635 24 күн бұрын
@@rowaystarco that's the worst part, I thought of among us first 😭
@coinsagE46m3
@coinsagE46m3 Ай бұрын
The first film was just an icon from my childhood. One of my favorite movies of all time. Whenever it came on, I stopped what I was doing and watched it. I tried to get into the second one, but between it being nowhere near the caliber of the first film and just how different the tone was, I just couldn't.
@mb2000
@mb2000 Ай бұрын
7:55 I believe the Starship Trooper battle uniforms/gear were also used in several episodes of Power Rangers Lost Galaxy, which given the heroes of that show were also fighting giant alien bug monsters, it fits thematically I guess.
@invidatauro8922
@invidatauro8922 Ай бұрын
Yeah, they made so many and it cost so much they just lent it to everyone. It shows up in a bunch of shows and movies from the time.
@brokefangmagepunk3685
@brokefangmagepunk3685 Ай бұрын
Also used in Firefly
@underarmbowlingincidentof1981
@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 29 күн бұрын
@@brokefangmagepunk3685 yup! the train heist I think
@rubeeverno9062
@rubeeverno9062 Ай бұрын
Starship Troopers has been one of my all time favorite movies since I was a kid❤️ ✨️The others do not exist✨️
@andrewnguyen6846
@andrewnguyen6846 Ай бұрын
Can't believe Elvis didn't mentioned the actual Starship Troopers game released before Helldivers 2
@blakeprocter5818
@blakeprocter5818 29 күн бұрын
There are actually two games as far as I remember. A first person shooter from the early-mid 2000's, and a strategy game from a couple of years ago called Terran Command.
@jakeellison4277
@jakeellison4277 28 күн бұрын
And Helldivers 1 released before that! Mad how time works.
@blakeprocter5818
@blakeprocter5818 28 күн бұрын
@@jakeellison4277 What? From what I've read, the first Helldivers came out in 2015, while the first Starship Troopers game came out in 2005?
@rowaystarco
@rowaystarco 24 күн бұрын
There's more than that as well. There's the failed FPS Starship Troopers (I remember being hyped for it back in 2005), before that you had a Real time tactics game released in 2000 (Starship Troopers: Terran Ascendancy). Now in recent days we have the new FPS Starship troopers and the new RTS Starship troopers (Starship Troopers: Terran Command ). I loved the movie back then and actually played both the 2000 and 2005 games. Both were quite bad..@@blakeprocter5818
@biscuitkrueger3321
@biscuitkrueger3321 Ай бұрын
Never Been this fast on a Elvis videos
@Lestat21500
@Lestat21500 Ай бұрын
I appreciate the Helldivers strategem on the thumb nail Elvis. Good work!
@thrice1987
@thrice1987 Ай бұрын
The day Helldivers 2 kids discover Earth Defense Force they're gonna be mindblown.
@andypadilla9002
@andypadilla9002 29 күн бұрын
Been a EDF fan since EDF 2017, the very first one released outside of Japan, and I still think Helldivers 2 is pretty great. They’re different experiences tho HD2 is still influenced by EDF in ways (like the ridiculous rag doll physics), EDF is more a arcade shooter experience while HD2 is more of a cinematic/role playing experience
@thrice1987
@thrice1987 29 күн бұрын
@@andypadilla9002I never said Helldivers wasn't great ^^u
@HamRadioCrashCourse
@HamRadioCrashCourse Ай бұрын
The box art with the slightly tilted helmet of Starship Troopers 2 tells you all you need to need to know. I saw it at Blockbuster and LMAO right on past it.
@Chiptune7
@Chiptune7 Ай бұрын
The mixed showers scene is great, it's the one aspect shown in this universe that's a benefit due to human advancement: social progress has advanced to the level where gender, race, etc no longer matters, and they can legit shower between men and women with 0 sexual element, it shows how a common enemy can push humanity to come together progressively... at the cost of intense hatred for an alien race and a nearly fascist approach to politics and the military
@giin97
@giin97 Ай бұрын
Nah, the director's understanding of both the source material and fascism are tenuous at best. It's a military movie about the military, but the government in the movie is a direct democracy with a completely open and uncensored press. People have guaranteed freedom of movement and no economic restrictions, in just about every way it's a liberal utopia. The only point that people hang up on is that the voting roll requirements include military service, having "skin in the game" as it were, but that in and of itself isn't fascist.
@thatmomentwhenriley9472
@thatmomentwhenriley9472 Ай бұрын
​@@giin97 here's the list of things in Starship Troopers that are also characteristics of fascism: 1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism 2. Identification of enemies as a unifying cause 3. The supremacy of avid militarism 4. A controlled mass media (it's all fucking propaganda, not "free press") 5. Obsession with national security 6. Religion and ruling elite tied together (mostly in the third film) 7. Obsession with crime and punishment 8. And lastly the same thing you pointed out about the inability to vote (unless you serve) But don't forget that you can't have children or go to college without military service either!
@chandllerburse737
@chandllerburse737 Ай бұрын
This makes no sense as biological desire would always ensure that there is some sexual element The military has to be giving them libido killing meds for this to work with everyone
@RustieFawn
@RustieFawn 29 күн бұрын
@thatmomentwhenriley9472 So literally current day liberal US? Thanks for playing.
@emperorcokelord1021
@emperorcokelord1021 29 күн бұрын
​@@thatmomentwhenriley9472It's also weird how they don't force you to be in the military
@anubusx
@anubusx Ай бұрын
The Roughnecks Chronicles was a really good series.
@ILoveNekoSkye
@ILoveNekoSkye 29 күн бұрын
my headphones are too good. I had this video on in the background and at 11:38 I legit thought someone had just KNOCKED on my 2nd floor window. I completely freaked out. The bass was so heavy it sounded completely real.
@T00_SHADY
@T00_SHADY 7 күн бұрын
It’s not a weasel! He’s a Trash Panda and his name is Rocket. The one that scares Carl’s Mom is a ferret and his name (or her we don’t know) is Cyrano. Love this movie. I saw it in the theater when it came out with my Mom and we both love Sci-Fi. We came out the movies screaming “Would you like to know more?! YES”
@jordanfelt5978
@jordanfelt5978 Ай бұрын
As somebody who has yet to play helldivers 2 (mostly because I don't have a new gaming system) that quirk of it where you get in-game reviews and the one-star reviews get [redacted] is one of the most hilarious things I've ever heard of. Whoever came up with that is a genius 😂
@fat.monkey.spunkk2606
@fat.monkey.spunkk2606 Ай бұрын
I have been waiting to see Elvis talk about Starship Troopers! OOO RAHH !!!
@MFBosshunting
@MFBosshunting Ай бұрын
Would definitely enjoy you talking about those 2 animated movies. I really liked the first animated Starship Troopers movie so I am particularly interested in what you think about that one. As far as other video ideas go, how about being silly and shark movies (that aren't Jaws movies) or a video looking at those awful VS giant animal direct-to-dvd movies. Those could be fun.
@mcclintick
@mcclintick 25 күн бұрын
1 to 6 headed shark attack, each movie adds another head. lol
@WubWubbbZ
@WubWubbbZ Ай бұрын
Elvis! There's a series based off Starship Troopers called 'Roughnecks' as well. I won't lie, the 3D animation hasn't aged well, but it's closer to the books and, personally, I like it more than the movies. There's more ground warfare (actual planning and tactical thinking rather than "everyone run and shoot the bug"), mechs, more psychic people/powers, going to different planets, different and smarter bugs, different story arcs and characters have their own arcs, and because of the armor they wear everyone looks like Master Chief. Plus there's an alien going "WAAA WA WA WAAAAA" at a couple points, so it's pretty cool
@Juel92
@Juel92 Ай бұрын
I also watched the first Starship Troopers when very young. I was 6 lol. Had an amazing exprience and I absolutely loved it.
@npcimknot958
@npcimknot958 Ай бұрын
Starship troopers is one of the greatest movies ever made.
@blue-vr8dd
@blue-vr8dd 28 күн бұрын
I'd genuinely call it art
@ReaperOfRock
@ReaperOfRock 29 күн бұрын
The fascism on display in this movie is purely surface level. Veerhoven tried to paint the Terran Federation as a fascist government, but never showed the Federation doing anything that actually qualifies. These movies are great. Even the terrible ones. Love the vid, Elvis!
@jeanhamilton3296
@jeanhamilton3296 29 күн бұрын
Tbf to him it'd have been hard to given that it isn't fascistic lol
@ReaperOfRock
@ReaperOfRock 28 күн бұрын
@@jeanhamilton3296 I don’t hold it against him at all. Veerhoven did paint a thin coat of fascism so unless you are closely examining the film for those themes, it’s an easy thing to overlook.
@jeanhamilton3296
@jeanhamilton3296 28 күн бұрын
@@ReaperOfRock besides the uniforms it really has no connection to any fascistic ideologies. It's militaristic sure, but that pretty much stops there.
@ReaperOfRock
@ReaperOfRock 28 күн бұрын
@@jeanhamilton3296 Yeah, but it is set during a war, so some militarism is to be expected.
@jeanhamilton3296
@jeanhamilton3296 28 күн бұрын
@@ReaperOfRock also, yeah.
@millythespugwit9051
@millythespugwit9051 Ай бұрын
I feel like for a lot of this we’re overlooking the genuinely fun Starship Troopers Extermination adaptation. A fps released the same year with Helldivers II. You want the genuine realest starship trooper feel, I’d recommend
@daddyyu-gi-oh4330
@daddyyu-gi-oh4330 Ай бұрын
You had me at ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
@Juel92
@Juel92 Ай бұрын
I assumed them finding religion in the 3rd one was satirical. Like we know for a fact that Rico dropping at that moment they're praying was a coincidence. And making Rico, the dude who at the end of the third movie was going right down the path of fascism a saving angel fits the satire style of the first movie nicely.
@brya9681
@brya9681 Ай бұрын
No it doesn't...
@invidatauro8922
@invidatauro8922 Ай бұрын
The fucking film literally ends with the establishment of a state church to encourage people to fight harder for the state, of course its satirical.
@invidatauro8922
@invidatauro8922 Ай бұрын
@@brya9681 ...Yeah it does. Did you not notice how the new Sky Marshal had a cross stiched to her uniform or how the stewardess was now a priest and claimed that God was "a citizen too" If that doesn't scream "State Sponsored Religious propaganda" I don't know what does.
@triplehelix3207
@triplehelix3207 Ай бұрын
the third movie is ass but its hilarious how 40k-ish it feels
@AnthonyMackONE
@AnthonyMackONE 29 күн бұрын
At this point, Casper Van Diem has become a born-again Christian. He pivoted to mostly religious movies. I’m thinking this had something to do with the tone of this particular film.
@user-cp2vy9qz5r
@user-cp2vy9qz5r Ай бұрын
A noble sacrifice! When duty calls we pay the price, for the federation I will give my life!!
@undeadarmy19
@undeadarmy19 20 күн бұрын
The director for Starship Troopers, Paul Verhoeven, was born in 1938 in Amsterdam. When he was 5yo his family moved to "The Hague", which was where the Not-See (I know its not spelled correctly. I'm avoiding the YT algorithm) Germans were headquartered in The Netherlands. He grew to hate the Not-Sees. The movie has a lot of Not-See imagery in it. For example, when the soldiers are all saying "I'm doing my part", this comes from a propaganda film from Not-See Germany called 'Triumph Des Willens', or 'Triumph of the Will' in English. They had the German line "I'm doing my part" in that movie, which is why you see it in this movie. As for the casting of Casper Van Dien and Denise Richards, Paul Verhoeven wanted the actors to look like the people in Leni Riefenstahl's movie 'Triumph of the Will.' That film was supposed to show the "superiority" of the Not-See party and the Aryan race. Verhoeven wanted "an exaggerated look that ended up making the actors look more like caricatures than real flesh-and-blood soldiers". I wish you would've done a little more research here. I know its really popular nowadays for white people, especially white content creators, to bash on almost anything white and play the white guilt card. You've been conditioned into believing that if you say the wrong thing you'll be "cancelled", or you'll alienate the weak-minded amongst the KZbin fandom and lose viewership. At the same time you'd never make a big deal or complain about a minority actor being cast for an originally white character. Which is always what proves the motivation behind the faux outrage. At least try to be accurate when you do this.
@JimothyThe
@JimothyThe Ай бұрын
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@NoobSaibot7051
@NoobSaibot7051 Ай бұрын
This is one of my fav movies by far ITS a master piece thats surprisingly still fun to watch several Times and hast really good effects for ITS time
@SirQwert
@SirQwert Ай бұрын
Kinda wish they made a sequel, or hell maybe even 4 more. But sadly that never happened.
@stuflames4769
@stuflames4769 Ай бұрын
That thumbnail joke is on point.
@seangalvin4582
@seangalvin4582 Ай бұрын
The visual effects are so good. This was the end of miniature work and it's a process that perfected at this point. GCI was new but was used really wisely. The spaceships look so great in this first movie.
@santosdr2
@santosdr2 Ай бұрын
so shit on a shingle is what my mom calls toast with the gravy you use for biscuits and gravy. You pour the gravy on top of the toast and it resembles bird poop. hence the name shit on a shingle.
@skyhunter2816
@skyhunter2816 27 күн бұрын
Well that is incorrect. It is a kebab with meat and vegetables.
@anaalicia5029
@anaalicia5029 Ай бұрын
I liked part three very much. Of course it won’t live up to the original but that was a fun movie. A guilty pleasure
@ravenshrike
@ravenshrike Ай бұрын
It's also inspired by Heinlein. We know this because of the constant "managed democracy" refrain. From The Moon is a Harsh Mistress a book that involves the 1960's version of AI, written less than 4 years later. “A managed democracy is a wonderful thing… for the managers… and its greatest strength is a ‘free press’ when ‘free’ is defined as ‘responsible’ and the managers define what is ‘irresponsible’.”
@OnimoIndustries
@OnimoIndustries 23 күн бұрын
The difference between starship and helldivers is that the bugs are actually a threat in starship rather than just being livestock in helldivers.
@grave.
@grave. Ай бұрын
holy shit lmfao i knew that there was a bad sequel but i didn't expect there to be 4 of them
@rogerskitt1542
@rogerskitt1542 Ай бұрын
And a bunch of animated stuff, they made a TV show about it and some decent movies
@alphariusomegon3965
@alphariusomegon3965 Ай бұрын
The 2 animated films are actually good.
@alphariusomegon3965
@alphariusomegon3965 Ай бұрын
@@rogerskitt1542 oh ya there the mtv show roughnecks and there a book adaptation show ova from the 1980’s that are more close to the book both series can be watched on KZbin.
@lincawebot3681
@lincawebot3681 Ай бұрын
there's only one bad sequel though???
@rogerskitt1542
@rogerskitt1542 Ай бұрын
@@alphariusomegon3965 agreed, rat's ass forever 🤣
@WabbaJackel_54
@WabbaJackel_54 Ай бұрын
Everyone just forgetting that the dev team for Squad has been working on Starship Troopers : Extermination for about a year a fully licensed game. I play Helldivers2 its good fun but when you want the licensed its a bunch of fun as well.
@zombie5505
@zombie5505 Ай бұрын
I like that game, trying to kill some bugs sir
@nostalgiabender2375
@nostalgiabender2375 Ай бұрын
That game is absolutely fantastic, though I’m personally gonna wait until the class rework update comes out before I hop back into it
@ItsMeInkredible
@ItsMeInkredible 27 күн бұрын
What’s crazy is how no one talks about Starship Troopers Extermination but everyone knows Helldivers 2
@spleenrippasgubbinz2178
@spleenrippasgubbinz2178 26 күн бұрын
Because the devs fumbled the ball hard. Large-scale co-op shooter with offense, defense and extraction phases against hundreds of enemies in a sea of samey 4-player co-op games? Sign me up. Unfortunately the glacial pace of updates, the poorly implemented mutator system, the horrible performance of the fire update that cratered an already poorly optimized game and the announcement of a remake of the game's progression system that would wipe progress spooked most of its already tiny playerbase to other games. Some like me are planning to check back after the big update is out, but I strongly doubt it'll ever get anywhere close to its peak of 16k players.
@MrTfuzz
@MrTfuzz 21 күн бұрын
I was almost 14 when this movie came out and I remember absolutely loving it.. but no one I knew at the time liked it and I thought everyone was crazy.. I recommend everybody watch this movie. It totally holds up over time. The effects are incredible for being over 25 years old and the characters and acting are great.. awesome video!
@xr0ninx569
@xr0ninx569 Ай бұрын
“Why we fight” is a perfect song
@GooeyTheDragon
@GooeyTheDragon Ай бұрын
I could watch most horror movies and not get scared, but someone knocking on a door can make me hop right out of my seat. God damn!
@D-Storter
@D-Storter Ай бұрын
LMAO happened to me too
@sternencolonel7328
@sternencolonel7328 27 күн бұрын
Just to point it out, in the book, they are called mobile infantry because the use mobile suits, Powerarmor like an Ironmen suit.
@Graves-81_69
@Graves-81_69 Ай бұрын
I think Rico was called the hero of Planet P because he went on a rescue mission and discovered the brain bug and then completed his mission allowing Zim to capture boss bug
@Mankey619
@Mankey619 Ай бұрын
I remember watching this movie as a kid, and it's one of the most graphic action films ever made. Despite all of its satire and comedic tones. It still delivered such a powerful message about people joining the army, and ending up being traumatized of the horrors of war.
@K1ngSnake420
@K1ngSnake420 Ай бұрын
Im convinced Gonna Watch the first one fully for 1st time
@eddiewalker2957
@eddiewalker2957 29 күн бұрын
Howd it go?
@riothead1240
@riothead1240 29 күн бұрын
I read the starship troopers book on delpoyment and passed it around to the rest of the guys and we started saying "on the bounce" to each other all the time
@Pengouinn
@Pengouinn 16 күн бұрын
Also when you see the scene where they nuke the shit out of the bugs, you realize that the war is meant to keep their population focused on a common ennemy to divert their attention. They have no reasons to send millions of young people with bad armor and nerf guns getting shredded by bugs, but they do it anyway. The humans litteraly have space travel, they can easily kill every single bug in these planets.
@scionixx9568
@scionixx9568 Ай бұрын
A lot of people think the bugs are a very sympathetic race, but they’re just as bad as the humans if not worse.
@Pengouinn
@Pengouinn 16 күн бұрын
I have a theory about that. You know the brain bug that suck people's brain and get their knowledge? Well maybe before, the bugs were just normal bugs and then, one of them sucked a human's brain. They learned about earth, space, war, conflict and all of that stuff. As they kept getting more knowledge from human brains, they learned how to fight in wars and became as blood thirsty as the humans. That could explain how they are so intelligent and know that they are in a planet in space.
@permafrostyx
@permafrostyx Ай бұрын
Starship koopas when
@captain_crayon
@captain_crayon 29 күн бұрын
Funny story, that quote "come on you apes, do you wanna live forever?" is actually paying homage to Dan Daly, a legendary US Marine who said the following at the Battle of Belleau Wood in WWI: "Come on, you sons-o'-bitches, do you want to live forever?" Adds another layer of epicness that I appreciate.
@joshjohnson5494
@joshjohnson5494 Ай бұрын
You should absolutely talk about more games dude! I was so invested in your short talk on HD2 that I forgot the actual video for a minute.
@insertjokeh3r3
@insertjokeh3r3 29 күн бұрын
Reminder that the director didn’t even read the book and the bugs were a highly advanced technological species along with the book having nothing to do with fascism. The director also has no real idea what fascism even is considering theres basically nothing in the movie that shows the government is even fascist.
@dracodracarys2339
@dracodracarys2339 Ай бұрын
Part 2 just tried to be a straight up horror movie instead of a heavily-satirical sci-fi adventure and honestly that was a really weird choice.
@nrg6245
@nrg6245 23 күн бұрын
Watching these as a kid were wild. Definitely nostalgic.
@LordEsel88
@LordEsel88 Ай бұрын
Love Starship Troopers. I've only seen the first movie though, and maybe that's a good thing. :P I like the book too, but for different reasons. While the movie is basically Verhoeven's childhood trauma response (and I totally respect that), the book delves into questions about rights and responsibilities.
@thehomiehandler2435
@thehomiehandler2435 Ай бұрын
Infantryman here. This movie is so clearly satire and yet it was one of my inspirations for joining the army as combat arms. Sort of the downside of making something too cool for younger audiences. 😂 Even if you blatantly show the ways in which it might not be cool as well.
@realsteezystevie
@realsteezystevie Ай бұрын
Reported this propaganda to my local democracy officer 🔥
@Amanoob105
@Amanoob105 26 күн бұрын
From my time on the internet (but mostly youtube) there's seems to be two main groups of fans for this film. And they don't have much in common besides the film itself. The first group are best summed up as "I saw this film and heard it's message so loud and clear I not only went on to read the book, but also signed up for service to my country!" The second group are best summed up as "You saw this film and then joined the military? Wow, its message flew right over your head...."
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