THE STARSHIP TROOPERS MOVIES - From Iconic to Garbage (there's 5 of them...)

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[@volterkeg]

If you liked helldivers 2, then you might like earth defense force.

[@CAPT6875]

The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand. MEDIC!!😂😂

[@ECNAHC70098]

theres actually a starship troopers game

[@DevilFan669]

i haven't seen any of the Starship Troopers except for the original film though and i loved that one so far

[@taravati181]

Traitor of Mars was really good

[@0verWay]

The reason why they avoided ground vehicles, if I recall correctly, was because 1. the vibrations would be dead givaways of their positions and that the bugs would swarm or trap the vehicles in ground traps anyway, rendering them inefficient in terms of costs and materials, and 2. the terrains on most bug planets were too bad and hard to maneuver around with ground vehicles. Would you like to know more?

[@WallyWachell]

No

[@ShroomyTheOne]

Bro is THE starship trooper

[@Vic-fo2hm]

That does make a lot of sense. In my head I thought it was symbolic of how throw away the mobile infantry is viewed throughout the movie. All the quotes about them being expendable and when they enlist the line "fresh meat for the grinder?" Like they were not worth the expense of more advanced equipment. I'm sure you're right but that along with maybe conveying the war machine's inefficiency as well.

[@siamzero9480]

1. Hovercraft 2. I see no swamps there, vehicles will not get stuck

[@mrviking2mcall212]

Bugs found the soldiers and eviscerated them all anyway. Might as well bring the thunder.

[@VolatileVolcarona]

Remember when the teacher said that the bugs have no fear during the dissection scene? That's why Neil Patrick Harris says it's afraid it is really significant. They believed that the bugs couldn't fear humans, which made them a more affective army.

[@1Ashram]

The millions of Drones cannot feel fear, as it is shown dyieng in waves only to continue climbing corpses, the only bug able have the brain matter to feel fear is the brain bug which is also the control center of the drones, like a Queen is to Ants.

[@KageRyuu6]

@@1Ashram Except that's not how ant colonies work, the Queen is just the reproductive organ of the colony, the Workers are the real "hive mind" behind the colony, and everything they do is based on instinct and pheromone trails.

[@mrcheesemunch]

@@1Ashram...that doesn't mean they don't fear lol they're an army, by your logic here any army that ever advances on another simply doesn't have fear. I guess all the guys that stormed the beaches at Normandy weren't human since they weren't scared of running in to danger. That's how war works, the bugs are soldiers defending their species.

[@Barnesofthenorth]

I mean in story it means something, but its also like another pot shot at fascism that they capture an enemy leader, and cheer that they are terrified.

[@samamies88]

@@Barnesofthenorth I think u got it. The way they cheer about it is like they achieved something. Like the fact that they are afraid is a victory of itself. The end goal. (Ofc the actual end goal is to wipe all the bugs but to them this was moral victory: now they know that bugs are able to be afraid AND that humans are seem frightening to them).

[@mostmelon8243]

You were actually right. The director specifically stated that he chose a cast of very beautiful young people for specifically this reason.

[@flattard7007]

So where did the director say that they didn’t want brown people like Elvis is claiming?

[@joecrazy9896]

Funnily enough, Rico is supposed to be Filipino in the book. But ol'Paul never read that far ahead to find that out.

[@hysterioneh1526]

@@flattard7007 Least obvious youtube comment bait, and I'll happily fall for it. I dont think making observations such as everyone cast is incredibly beautiful and so happen to be white, infers that Elvis is stating that they simply chose not to cast brown people. (which they did, if you watched the very funny and edumacational video)

[@brya9681]

​@@flattard7007 Wtf are you talking about?

[@L.D201]

@@flattard7007Probably just pandering

[@NightmareDetective]

The director absolutely has stated he chose various actors and actresses for the roles because of how conventionally beautiful they were, driving the point that joining will make you a gorgeous hero of the federation just like they are. It’s why all of the military scenes are shown specific ways and the soldiers and commercials up until exactly at the 1 hour mark, which is exactly when they land on Klendathu and the entire tone of the film shifts. Genius work.

[@undeadarmy19]

Paul Verhoeven, was born in 1938 in Amsterdam. When he was 5yo his family moved to "The Hague", which was where the Not-See (I know its not spelled correctly. I'm avoiding the YT algorithm) Germans were headquartered in The Netherlands. He grew to hate the Not-Sees. The movie has a lot of Not-See imagery in it. For example, when the soldiers are all saying "I'm doing my part", this comes from a propaganda film from Not-See Germany called 'Triumph Des Willens', or 'Triumph of the Will' in English. They had the German line "I'm doing my part" in that movie, which is why you see it in this movie. As for the casting of Casper Van Dien and Denise Richards, Paul Verhoeven wanted the actors to look like the people in Leni Riefenstahl's movie 'Triumph of the Will.' That film was supposed to show the "superiority" of the Not-See party and the Aryan race. Verhoeven wanted "an exaggerated look that ended up making the actors look more like caricatures than real flesh-and-blood soldiers"

[@pcruncher5627]

@@undeadarmy19wow thanks that was very informative also I like how you were able to avoid saying the you know what word with Not-see

[@homefront1999]

Fun fact about Starship troopers. It's reported that the US military was looking for a new primary assault rifle to equip troops with. A gun specifically was liked very much by the Heckler & Koch company. But the military said something along the lines of " Make it look more like Starship troopers" And this is how we got the Heckler & Koch XM8. Which was never actually adopted by the US military. But is seen a lot in video games. Just another thing that Starship Troopers managed to influence.

[@Aredel]

You didn't happen to watch Fat Electrician's video about the matter, did you?

[@wifegrant]

it actually got split into a grenade launcher and a rifle. The rifle was kinda ass, but they still used the grenade launcher in Iraq.

[@Autobotmatt428]

That is true

[@Autobotmatt428]

@@Aredel Watch forgotten weapons Ian is way better

[@Aredel]

@ no

[@rogerskitt1542]

The fact the bug was "afraid" was a huge deal. At the time everyone thought the brain bug was the highest in the chain, the fact it was scared would impact all the versions it controls via the hive mind ( again, who they thought ran shit lol)

[@franzosisch5965]

Not sure why he thought that was weird. He points out in the beginning when the teacher lady says the bugs don't feel fear.

[@rogerskitt1542]

@@franzosisch5965 agreed, the whole reason the bugs were feared so much was ironically thier lack of fear and just zerg tactics.

[@brya9681]

​@@franzosisch5965 you literally bought into the propaganda. They said that just to placate the people to joining up to fight the aliens and ignore that THEY were the invaders

[@invidatauro8922]

@@brya9681 How? They weren't at war with the bugs at the time and the teacher was complimenting the bugs, saying they were better than humans. How is that effective propaganda?

[@Darkgun231]

@@invidatauro8922Could just have been bad science/ faulty information. They were in public school, after all.

[@darkunykorn404]

Starship Troopers sequels? There are no sequels. That's just a collective hallucination. Yes. That movie is amazing and so iconic.

[@redwiltshire1816]

I actually enjoyed the second one and never even knew there was a third one

[@theokayishgamer]

Invasion is kinda fun, albeit obviously nowhere near as good as the first movie.

[@hesgoneplaid6478]

Traitor of mars is goofy in a fun way

[@taravati181]

traitor of mars is really good

[@DEFxRECON]

Just like Pacific Rim. Wish that movie had a sequel.

[@dovidstaples9985]

Just automatically flagging 1 star reviews on weapons for "treason". That's just an awesome way for the game to stay in character I love it

[@raven75257]

To clarify, for those who don't play the game, those reviews are fake. You can't actually review items in the game

[@rannnoch]

@@raven75257 wow thanks i was just about to piss myself and shit myself and cry really hard

[@actionvestadventure]

I like how Michael Ironside's character from Total Recall loses his arms (See you at the party, Richter!). In Starship Troopers, he loses his legs.

[@antonakesson]

And he had already lost his arm XD

[@1wayroad935]

My brain canon is that the movie is an actual in-universe movie to sell the legend of Johnny Rico.

[@terrified057t4]

I mean yeah totes agree, for the entire movie we're from the view of some kind of internet.

[@flameconvoy7424]

The in-universe director decided to show Rico nearly being cucked

[@FishFingers151]

So, no Liber-tea?

[@Michealmewers]

MY LEG!!!!

[@dovidstaples9985]

Only libercoffee

[@Hopemaxxing_For_My_Chair]

Liber-coke.

[@kazuyatitan35]

Only liber-tears

[@Swedeinaboonie]

Democracy operates on coffee and nicotine alone

[@PartyPinda87]

The actors were chosen because of their looks. It was too portrait the idealic world it was. That it was perfect.

[@thecarrierpigeon6657]

​@57spitfire57 almost as if its a satire about the American propaganda machine and nazism

[@justaguyonyoutube4592]

@@57spitfire57 The part around 9:40 would say otherwise. Try again.

[@vivs9314]

@@57spitfire57lmao there’s more diversity in that movie than many movies today…

[@L.D201]

@@57spitfire57cope

[@samuelgeaney7556]

​@@57spitfire57 is it bad if they're all white? Sounds like you have a bit of a racist mind set

[@gannonpatton2858]

Ever since I saw SST in middle school circa 2003, I've used "I'm doing my part!" an innumerable amount of times.

[@Silentpoppy]

when my boss at work asks me how im doing I always say I'm doing my part! I don't think he gets the reference tho XD

[@favoritemustard3542]

@Silentpoppy try & secret santa the DVD to yer boss lol

[@matteodelapaz1698]

I like how Helldivers 2 got more recognition and player base than the actual Starship Troopers games

[@terrified057t4]

Yeah that Starship Troopers game that came out recently blew up for like, a few days maybe a week? HD2 GOING STRONG LET'S GO

[@gabrielsantosbastos5257]

I don't, they deserve some love

[@sternencolonel7328]

Just to point it out, in the book, they are called mobile infantry because the use mobile suits, Powerarmor like an Ironmen suit.

[@Sue_Me_Too]

Heinlein actually invented the concept of Power Armor in science fiction.

[@mmonsturr]

Someone probably said this already, but the line "Come on, you sons-o'-bitches, do you want to live forever?" comes from the battle of Belleau Wood where the Germans had basically just went around French defenses through the woods. Two-time medal of honor awardee Dan Daily yelled the line as he led US Marines into battle against the overwhelming German assault. Just thought it was a cool nod to a real historical event that has taken on mythic proportions in the US Military

[@terrified057t4]

Yeah fr cool line for the 1st, then the continued is also fine by me, cheap but alright. How can you try and 1-up that badass of a line?

[@Sue_Me_Too]

Pretty sure the line was in an old Conan book before the war.

[@npcimknot958]

3:29 it is, in the commentary the director said it’s propaganda that’s why everyone is so pretty.. it’s building a fantasy so you’d join. It’s all deliberate

[@jamg25]

Join for the pretty people, stay for the libertarian paradise!

[@viscountrainbows2857]

For a critique of fascism, it makes fascism look like the way to unite humanity. Verhoeven may have dropped the ball on making the military industrial complex the glue that literally prevents racism, sexism, etc., or not. It gets muddy when political nonsense gets involved, invariably, but I still think the message is effective in the OG as, "If we have a common enemy, we'll be too busy to fight each other" or someshit.

[@viscountrainbows2857]

@andreadeluca9742 Oh I can see. And if you read my comment, I am open to being wrong so, I am if anything, blinded by the open nature of interpretation.

[@darcon5836]

@@viscountrainbows2857 it doesn't help that the director never read the book nor the person he told to read it to give him an over view. People can't really point to what is purely fascism in the movie that doesn't have a counter point, leaders take responsibility when they screw up and a new one gets voted in, people think they don't have human rights but no one is forced to take military service even when at war with the bugs and some characters even actively make sure they the recruits know what they are getting into. People will mention it is because the director says he made the movie that way but doesn't mean he didn't fail utterly at it. Unless someone told you what it was supposed to be you wouldn't know like everyone else watching the movie when it first came out.

[@bilbobagend8155]

​@@viscountrainbows2857 I like Verhoeven's work on Robocop, which actually works as a satire (unlike ST), but goddamn he was a fucking idiot when it came to the production of Starship Troopers as a "satire" of fascism. He got his messages severely mixed up. The writers should have cut out everything from the book, because it just serves to confuse the audience as to what the hell kind of system Paul wanted to portray.

[@williammoore1030]

They wasn’t celebrating Neil Patrick Harris being able to tell the bug was afraid, they were celebrating that they now knew bugs could feel fear.

[@jessejennings3828]

He's also wrong about their society being fascist.

[@jacksonconstantine5740]

@@jessejennings3828exactly. It’s a militarist federation where national service grants citizenship rights. Sargon of Akkad has a magnum opus breaking down SST at a way more big-brain level than Elvis is capable of.

[@AbdefFable1]

​@@jessejennings3828gonna need to contact his local democracy officer for treasonous talk it seems

[@jessejennings3828]

@@AbdefFable1 just flag my comment and KZbin will censor me.

[@rowaystarco]

No he's not.@@jessejennings3828

[@Web_2567]

The difference between starship and helldivers is that the bugs are actually a threat in starship rather than just being livestock in helldivers.

[@harleyjay338]

when zim starts training the cadets and yells "this is a live fire exercise" the way he says it has been stuck in my head since i was 7 years old (im now 30) haha love the first movie so much

[@nickdavidurban]

The instructional video on how to kill a bug (performed in a completely controlled no-risk environment) is a nice ironic commentary on - well - commentary; "Why didn't the characters in these insane life-threatening situations not behave like someone NOT in these insane life-threatening situations?"

[@blue-vr8dd]

icl I thought for a moment that it wasn't even real. the CG in that scene is not great, and it's one of the few instances they actually use CG rather than practical for the bugs. if I recall correctly, CG was only ever used for multiple bugs at the same time, or bugs they couldn't fully make as practical effects. I initially thought they just fuckin made it up lmao

[@testedhawk]

It's fantastic too because the viewers have NO IDEA where the fucking brain stem is in the bugs. You'd think it's the head, but then he starts shooting it in the middle

[@terrified057t4]

@@testedhawk and clips an claw/arm/leg???/appendage off like bro what how is that the brain stem?

[@rowaystarco]

Nah, they used CG more than that. But closeups were totally models/animatronics a lot of the time, but for walking creatures it was hard to do it in real life. The first invasion scenes were helped a lot by it being set in the dark. @@blue-vr8dd

[@rowaystarco]

It also clearly shows how insanely incompetent the military is. They don't bomb first, they don't use armored vehicles. It's a high possibility that they just sacrificed a bunch of soldiers on purpose to make people more engaged in the war. The government in the movie is driven by war.

[@NickyBlue99]

My dad took me and my brother to see this in theaters back when I was 12 years old and my brother was 9. The ticket person was like.... are you sure you want to see this movie...? You're kids look young. I loved the movie, my brother as well

[@funkrobot9762]

In the book they had powered suits, with y rack atomic missile launchers on their shoulders. They could boost and jump around like armored core kinda, had flamethrowers on their hand units.

[@viscountrainbows2857]

Man that sounds like a fun game. Someone should make it....... tehee

[@elaichi_wtf]

@@viscountrainbows2857 i mean there is a starship troopers game in early access but i don't know if it will have mecs in it lol

[@viscountrainbows2857]

@@elaichi_wtf If they aren't employing mech units in combat against massive bugs, I'll eat my head. And yours too.

[@r3dr4te963]

It remind me to Exo-squad

[@elaichi_wtf]

@@viscountrainbows2857 i am not sure if they even have the massive bugs at this point or not lmao, oh mah god my head is in danger, please don't gobble it up

[@ColeYote]

I still have to a plaid whoever decided to put the guy who directed Robocop in charge of adapting Starship Troopers. Absolutely insane idea that worked out great.

[@ILoveNekoSkye]

my headphones are too good. I had this video on in the background and at 11:38 I legit thought someone had just KNOCKED on my 2nd floor window. I completely freaked out. The bass was so heavy it sounded completely real.

[@velahtielredfang9417]

Special shoutout to Starship Troopers 1988, which is a 6 part anime and has a really good soundtrack.

[@PrimarchBentley]

It's some good Sunrise in action - the suits are well designed and much more like the book. Kind of a shame most of the OVA is pre-war though...

[@Scorch052]

9:49 In the book, this is easily explained by the mobile infantry actually having advanced exosuits that allow them to basically hop around incredibly quickly. My guess is ole Paul just took this and ran with it because having a bunch of extras in costume running around honestly looks more impressive and is probably a lot cheaper.

[@robiiify]

The director did not read the book if I am remembering correctly

[@Nomisdoowtsae]

They had the money to do good CGI bugs or the power armour but not both.

[@emperorcokelord1021]

​@@robiiifyHe didn't

[@wednesdayapril5435]

​@@robiiifyif i remember he read 1/3 way through mistook it as pro fascist then stopped and decided to make the movie to shit on fascism

[@blue-vr8dd]

​@@wednesdayapril5435 I never heard that. I only remember hearing/reading him say that he thought the book was boring as fuck but the concept was good, so he wanted to make it an action movie. wasn't the book a similar way in it's satire of fascism?

[@ifadetogray]

The animated sequel was the best sequel, for what it's worth

[@ifadetogray]

Traitor of Mars is the best one, the other animated one is also better than two or three in retrospect.

[@michaell8269]

Wasn’t there an animated series? I seem to recall a ST animated series in the mid to late 90s, right around when I was watching Beast Wars.

[@Calcoro]

@@michaell8269Yep! Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles. It was amazing.

[@NiceandAccurateMoose]

​@@michaell8269 I grew up watching the animated series before I ever knew there was a movie. The whole series is actually available online for free! I'm actively collecting the DVD releases to add to my SST shelf.

[@chrislail3824]

@@michaell8269yes, Roughnecks - and it’s a continuation of the book and very good.

[@ElectroBooze]

Ordered to have fun….. Oh yes. I remember my unit had “Mandatory Fun Day” in Iraq. It sounds like I’m joking, but I’m not. Our unit actually had a day where if we weren’t on a specific duty like gateguard or some other duty required for security and function of our FOB, you were to be in your company’s area participating in whatever events they were holding. My company, since we had a pool, had lazing around in the pool. We had volleyball, cards, domino tourneys, or just sitting and doing whatever you wanted as long as you were in the company area. When I was a kid watching this movie, I was like “No way that happens.” After my time in the Army, I don’t even think twice about it.

[@Anthem76]

I read the starship troopers book on delpoyment and passed it around to the rest of the guys and we started saying "on the bounce" to each other all the time

[@Wadenbeisser24]

The "Its AFRAID" scene is important because they never found a bug before that could have fear. As you said yourself in the video, they were assumed to be perfect soldiers.

[@poggorseel]

it also means that they are more living than they thought

[@SuperRayW]

The opening classroom scene isn't about the benefits of violence, it's about the reality of violence.

[@jacksonconstantine5740]

And that violence and politics are inextricably linked, as they are both expressions of the force of will, whether by the state or the individual

[@stephengrigg5988]

It's also the only point where we see Rico even slightly conflicted about his place in life, and what his society is.

[@intlidave]

“Laws without enforced consequences are merely suggestions.” ― Ron Brackin

[@williansnobre]

That teacher is one of the reasons why the satire fails a little because he is way too good at his job

[@stephengrigg5988]

@@williansnobre at the indoctrination class? Do you see the irony in your comment?

[@doomsdayadams]

Clancy Brown is a National Treasure.

[@raymondleggs5508]

Mr Krabbs. 🦀

[@millythespugwit9051]

I feel like for a lot of this we’re overlooking the genuinely fun Starship Troopers Extermination adaptation. A fps released the same year with Helldivers II. You want the genuine realest starship trooper feel, I’d recommend

[@MrTfuzz]

I was almost 14 when this movie came out and I remember absolutely loving it.. but no one I knew at the time liked it and I thought everyone was crazy.. I recommend everybody watch this movie. It totally holds up over time. The effects are incredible for being over 25 years old and the characters and acting are great.. awesome video!

[@L1ncore]

Starship troopers is one of my fave movies, I honestly refuse to watch the sequels out of fear they’ll ruin the original for me lol. Excited to watch you do it for us 😂

[@franzosisch5965]

The second one, other than the awful cgi replacing the part cgi part model from the first movie, is alright if a bit goofy. Also, the captain lady from the first movie plays a soldier in it which confused me when I first watched it.

[@BishopGG]

I'd say watch the animes if you are into them. Very good

[@taravati181]

traitor of mars is really good and worth a watch

[@desicatedlimbs]

I unironically watched this movie in irony because I was raised on Star Wars and Lost in Space and Alien (it was told to me, I didn't watch it till I was 17 in 2009 🥲) so I grew up on a very... space is your friend way. Star kid and Disney space stuff, I honestly love starship troopers because it is so insanely satirical realistic. The goofy ads they play us on military, and knowing many vets they will tell you "do not, join". It's horrifying entertainment.

[@L1ncore]

@@BishopGG i did start watching part of the anime awhile ago and it was interesting. May actually watch it in full some day

[@IFiestyTacoZ]

It's crazy that earlier this morning, I discovered that there was more than just the one Starship Troopers movie. Now coincidentally, Elvis posts a video covering most of the Starship Troopers movies. This man is looking out for us for real.

[@IFiestyTacoZ]

@@AlyxEld you right

[@coinsagE46m3]

The first film was just an icon from my childhood. One of my favorite movies of all time. Whenever it came on, I stopped what I was doing and watched it. I tried to get into the second one, but between it being nowhere near the caliber of the first film and just how different the tone was, I just couldn't.

[@WubWubbbZ]

Elvis! There's a series based off Starship Troopers called 'Roughnecks' as well. I won't lie, the 3D animation hasn't aged well, but it's closer to the books and, personally, I like it more than the movies. There's more ground warfare (actual planning and tactical thinking rather than "everyone run and shoot the bug"), mechs, more psychic people/powers, going to different planets, different and smarter bugs, different story arcs and characters have their own arcs, and because of the armor they wear everyone looks like Master Chief. Plus there's an alien going "WAAA WA WA WAAAAA" at a couple points, so it's pretty cool

[@colbyhunter4622]

The movie and the book are night and day. The director only read 2 pages and decided he hated it, lol. The book is the authors view or a righteous path that humanity could make. He hated fascism and individuality was a major theme in the book. The government in the book were actually good guys and did what they could to protect not only humans but other alien races as well as liberating them from slavery from the bugs as well as giving them their own independence. The bugs were the allegory for fascism and communism as you have to be a litteral unthinking insect for those to work effectively. Hence, the theme of individuality. Also, the mobile infantry wore power armor and was the inspiration for halo armor as well as warhammer 40k armor.

[@Mankey619]

I remember watching this movie as a kid, and it's one of the most graphic action films ever made. Despite all of its satire and comedic tones. It still delivered such a powerful message about people joining the army, and ending up being traumatized of the horrors of war.

[@joshrosberg]

Not even a mention of the cartoon Roughnecks: The Starship Troopers Chronicles. It was much better than it had any right to be.

[@MrIamKindofabigdeal]

Loved this show

[@Aussie_Tom]

I still baffles me that they decided Starship Troopers would be a good basis for what's essentially a kids breakfast cartoon.

[@Zurvan1947]

It was on some weird channel near me at 530AM on Sundays of all times. It was an interesting series.

[@Awesomeuserdude]

I loved that when I was younger, though I was so bummed out that the last arc was never finished. I might check it out again, see if it holds up and is as good as I remember it being.

[@thundersoul6795]

@@Awesomeuserdude It's certainly aged, but for a '99 thing it's still pretty good.

[@spectraldragon09]

Helldivers and starship troopers are amazing

[@favoritemustard3542]

It almost felt like this vid had 2 sponsors!

[@justinholz480]

Firefly reused the armor from Starship Troopers. Imagine Jane and Rico teaming up. :D

[@fatal-vice8145]

So did either power rangers in space or lost Galaxy used the armor as well.

[@GreenskullAI]

Me whenever Halo is mentioned: 😃

[@NoodlesBeforeDinner]

Elvis, ever heard of "Feeders?" It will challenge you on a first watch, but then you and your wife will watch it every year multiple times like my wife and I do. You're welcome, sir.

[@mb2000]

7:55 I believe the Starship Trooper battle uniforms/gear were also used in several episodes of Power Rangers Lost Galaxy, which given the heroes of that show were also fighting giant alien bug monsters, it fits thematically I guess.

[@invidatauro8922]

Yeah, they made so many and it cost so much they just lent it to everyone. It shows up in a bunch of shows and movies from the time.

[@brokefangmagepunk3685]

Also used in Firefly

[@underarmbowlingincidentof1981]

@@brokefangmagepunk3685 yup! the train heist I think

[@alexanderweir2382]

I literally watched "starship troopers" for the first time yesterday

[@darklelouchg8505]

I recommend watching Sargon of Akkads deconstruction of Starship Troopers. It goes a long way in showing why people's initial understanding of the film; as well as Veerhoven's attempt to satirize Heinlein's novel, falls flat and rests upon either misunderstanding or deliberate ignorance of the underlying philosophical principles.

[@NoxAtlas]

When I first watched the movie with my dad as a teenager, I found the scene where Neil Patrick Harris said that the bug is afraid, really weird. But now I think I get it: throughout the movie, the humans thought that the bugs were incapable of feeling fear. An enemy that can't feel fear is terrifying because there's nothing you can intimidate them with. The discovery that they can in fact be afraid of something, was groundbreaking for the humans. This simple fact can change the course of war. And what's also mindblowing for the soldiers: they have been ripped to shreds for years by an army of ruthless giant insects and now they have finally gotten to a point where the bugs are now scared of them. This feels like a victory for them.

[@eamk887]

You're correct, but the scene also makes fun of the fact that they're cheering. Like, after learning your opposition is capable of having emotions, normal non-fascist people would probably try to start some kind of negotiations to at least try to stop the war without any more needless killing, but the people in the movie don't do that, since they're too occupied with just genociding all their enemies.

[@bananajoe9951]

Frankie Munez is Hispanic, but everyone thought hes a white dude. People were mad that Rami Malek got cast as Ahkmenrah because he looked too white, even though he is Egyptian. Also Casper Van Diens grandparents were hispanic... soo yeah. Why does race suddenly matter again? If you consider how diverse geneology is, we are all part something at this point. I'm half mexican, yet I have a "white" sounding last name and I "look" white, so am I not hispanic anymore because of that?

[@WigglyMcWiggly]

Yes because some people are only capable of surface level observations. You look white therefore you are not Hispanic and the soldiers wear Yahtzee-like uniforms therefore the society is "fascist". That's how it goes apparently.

[@toytacambery9427]

Dan Daly USMC The "you wanna live forever" quote comes from 2 time Medal of Honor recipient Dan Daly. It was when the US was in WW1, Daly's unit was in the Battle of Beleau Wood while the frontline didn't move for either side for months. Apparently, without orders to advance, he stood up and said "come on, you sons of bitches! Do you wanna live forever?" before charging bayonet first at the German line. His men, naturally took the hint and followed.

[@BarryHart-xo1oy]

Good to know.

[@eric50gobucks]

Don’t forget to mention. It worked and the Germans were driven completely taken off guard and driven out of Bellau wood

[@skyhunter2816]

Cool.

[@db9635]

I watched Starship Troopers a few weeks ago and I really enjoyed it, the next day I watched the second one as well. After seeing Starship Troopers 2, all I could think was ". . . that was just among us." This is a testament to my brain rot more than anything

[@rowaystarco]

Starship troopers 2 and Among us are just The thing really. Among us even has that winter base map. 😅

[@db9635]

@@rowaystarco that's the worst part, I thought of among us first 😭

[@Chiptune7]

The mixed showers scene is great, it's the one aspect shown in this universe that's a benefit due to human advancement: social progress has advanced to the level where gender, race, etc no longer matters, and they can legit shower between men and women with 0 sexual element, it shows how a common enemy can push humanity to come together progressively... at the cost of intense hatred for an alien race and a nearly fascist approach to politics and the military

[@giin97]

Nah, the director's understanding of both the source material and fascism are tenuous at best. It's a military movie about the military, but the government in the movie is a direct democracy with a completely open and uncensored press. People have guaranteed freedom of movement and no economic restrictions, in just about every way it's a liberal utopia. The only point that people hang up on is that the voting roll requirements include military service, having "skin in the game" as it were, but that in and of itself isn't fascist.

[@thatmomentwhenriley9472]

​@@giin97 here's the list of things in Starship Troopers that are also characteristics of fascism: 1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism 2. Identification of enemies as a unifying cause 3. The supremacy of avid militarism 4. A controlled mass media (it's all fucking propaganda, not "free press") 5. Obsession with national security 6. Religion and ruling elite tied together (mostly in the third film) 7. Obsession with crime and punishment 8. And lastly the same thing you pointed out about the inability to vote (unless you serve) But don't forget that you can't have children or go to college without military service either!

[@RustieFawn]

@thatmomentwhenriley9472 So literally current day liberal US? Thanks for playing.

[@emperorcokelord1021]

​@@thatmomentwhenriley9472It's also weird how they don't force you to be in the military

[@GleppaPigg]

Communism and fascism are just reskins of a terrible outcome and ideology

[@knighthawk882]

I always thought NPH sensing the bug was afraid was a big deal because it meant the bugs were actually worried they could lose to the humans.

[@rowaystarco]

Maybe, but their society is also geared towards hating the bugs. The soldiers stand around shouting and shooting in the air like a regular old islamist terrorist group. It only missed Allahu Akbar (Allah would be replaced by Federation or Humans)

[@jademcl4727]

I love thie movie sm. There's a letsplay of helldivers where they're roleplaying as reporters on the ground, and it never fails to crack me up 😂

[@thrice1987]

The day Helldivers 2 kids discover Earth Defense Force they're gonna be mindblown.

[@thrice1987]

@andypadilla9002I never said Helldivers wasn't great ^^u

[@bobjoe1343]

YODA SAYING "BEEAATCCH" GOT ME LMAO!!!

[@jordanfelt5978]

As somebody who has yet to play helldivers 2 (mostly because I don't have a new gaming system) that quirk of it where you get in-game reviews and the one-star reviews get [redacted] is one of the most hilarious things I've ever heard of. Whoever came up with that is a genius 😂

[@nrg6245]

Watching these as a kid were wild. Definitely nostalgic.

[@ravenshrike]

It's also inspired by Heinlein. We know this because of the constant "managed democracy" refrain. From The Moon is a Harsh Mistress a book that involves the 1960's version of AI, written less than 4 years later. “A managed democracy is a wonderful thing… for the managers… and its greatest strength is a ‘free press’ when ‘free’ is defined as ‘responsible’ and the managers define what is ‘irresponsible’.”

[@maximilliancornell6786]

Heinlein wrote Starship Troopers

[@ravenshrike]

@@maximilliancornell6786 Elvis explicitly states it is inspired by the movies, and not the book. My point is that the devs have read not just ST but at least one of Heinlein's other works and the inspiration comes from that as well.

[@ghostme1635]

Paul Verhoven is the man. Robocop and total recall kick ass too

[@zombie5505]

I also agree

[@emperorcokelord1021]

The only thing I don't like about him is the fact that he didn't read the rest of Starship Troopers

[@albertonavarro8904]

He didn't read it and got a summary because he was mostly parodying the book, he didn't want to make a 1 to 1 adaptation of it. He wanted the movie to be satire, but the book isn't.

[@rubeeverno9062]

Starship Troopers has been one of my all time favorite movies since I was a kid❤️ ✨️The others do not exist✨️

[@Lestat21500]

I appreciate the Helldivers strategem on the thumb nail Elvis. Good work!

[@seangalvin4582]

The visual effects are so good. This was the end of miniature work and it's a process that perfected at this point. GCI was new but was used really wisely. The spaceships look so great in this first movie.

[@EdyMar77]

there are no ground vehicles because the vehicles are supposed to be the soldiers themselves , In the book every soldier is on a super exoskeleton , it can jump super high , it can propulse itself forward really fast , and has a lot of nuclear tactical bombs , they deploy in a row formation of several kilometres away from one another , and in their helmets they can see everyone position on the field displayed like a hologram in the visor.

[@terrified057t4]

yeah bro "researched for this video" yet missed every bit of info about the book and movie but the surface level.

[@biscuitkrueger3321]

Never Been this fast on a Elvis videos

[@grave.]

holy shit lmfao i knew that there was a bad sequel but i didn't expect there to be 4 of them

[@rogerskitt1542]

And a bunch of animated stuff, they made a TV show about it and some decent movies

[@alphariusomegon3965]

The 2 animated films are actually good.

[@alphariusomegon3965]

@@rogerskitt1542 oh ya there the mtv show roughnecks and there a book adaptation show ova from the 1980’s that are more close to the book both series can be watched on KZbin.

[@lincawebot3681]

there's only one bad sequel though???

[@rogerskitt1542]

@@alphariusomegon3965 agreed, rat's ass forever 🤣

[@Juel92]

I also watched the first Starship Troopers when very young. I was 6 lol. Had an amazing exprience and I absolutely loved it.

[@etgohome1343]

What I love about Helldivers 2 is it wears its influences like a badge of honor! One of the big mechs in the game is very blatantly based on ED-209 from Robocop (another Paul Verhoven film)

[@MajorHorton]

There’s a planet in the quadrant above super earth called Klan Dahth II, which sounds like ‘Klendathu’, and even down to details like throwing grenades in bug holes to collapse them, there’s so many references

[@Venters]

NPH's line about the brain bug being afraid was a call back to the biology teacher saying how bugs were perfect in that they do what they are told without fear. So NPH revealing that the bugs can be afraid was showing that the bugs were not invincible.

[@Juel92]

I assumed them finding religion in the 3rd one was satirical. Like we know for a fact that Rico dropping at that moment they're praying was a coincidence. And making Rico, the dude who at the end of the third movie was going right down the path of fascism a saving angel fits the satire style of the first movie nicely.

[@brya9681]

No it doesn't...

[@invidatauro8922]

The fucking film literally ends with the establishment of a state church to encourage people to fight harder for the state, of course its satirical.

[@invidatauro8922]

@@brya9681 ...Yeah it does. Did you not notice how the new Sky Marshal had a cross stiched to her uniform or how the stewardess was now a priest and claimed that God was "a citizen too" If that doesn't scream "State Sponsored Religious propaganda" I don't know what does.

[@triplehelix3207]

the third movie is ass but its hilarious how 40k-ish it feels

[@AnthonyMackONE]

At this point, Casper Van Diem has become a born-again Christian. He pivoted to mostly religious movies. I’m thinking this had something to do with the tone of this particular film.

[@anubusx]

The Roughnecks Chronicles was a really good series.

[@WabbaJackel_54]

Everyone just forgetting that the dev team for Squad has been working on Starship Troopers : Extermination for about a year a fully licensed game. I play Helldivers2 its good fun but when you want the licensed its a bunch of fun as well.

[@zombie5505]

I like that game, trying to kill some bugs sir

[@nostalgiabender2375]

That game is absolutely fantastic, though I’m personally gonna wait until the class rework update comes out before I hop back into it

[@ragingfurball5419]

I remember watching the 2nd one with some friends when the dvd first released. It was such a let down, we rewatched it 3 times in a row. At some point, we realized the light bulb on the guns wasn't tied to the trigger, it would just pulse at a set interval to imitate firing. That's why at several points in the film it looks like an actor is shooting at the ground, or a shelf, or an empty staircase. We coined the phrase "My blinky won't stop shooting!" when we saw one background character's rifle 'shooting' when their hand wasn't even on the trigger.

[@felman87]

Phil Tippett also did work on Jurassic Park 1. Yeah, so the fact that the effects of the first movie looked great is because he's fantastic.

[@MidniteMeatBus]

He worked on the 2nd movie as well, and even there, the bugs look just as good as they do here in the original. However, the 2nd movie had ONLY a 7 million dollar budget while the original had a 116 million dollar budget. Ive always had a lot of respect for the 2nd movie as well as the first.

[@jamesbounds]

The first Star Ship Troopers film is a classic. Never saw the others.

[@favoritemustard3542]

I think I heard about the 2nd one, but never had any interest. Still have my VHS of SST, though.

[@NoobSaibot7051]

This is one of my fav movies by far ITS a master piece thats surprisingly still fun to watch several Times and hast really good effects for ITS time

[@SirQwert]

Kinda wish they made a sequel, or hell maybe even 4 more. But sadly that never happened.

[@MFBosshunting]

Would definitely enjoy you talking about those 2 animated movies. I really liked the first animated Starship Troopers movie so I am particularly interested in what you think about that one. As far as other video ideas go, how about being silly and shark movies (that aren't Jaws movies) or a video looking at those awful VS giant animal direct-to-dvd movies. Those could be fun.

[@mcclintick]

1 to 6 headed shark attack, each movie adds another head. lol

[@Alexander_Kale]

Calling Starship Troopers an Anti Facism Film is a hilarious Joke in itself, considering how there is no facism to be found in the entire movie. Verhoeven tried so hard to make the Federation look facist, but failed because he stayed too close to the source material, where the government is a liberal (non managed) democracy. Still an awesome movie, though.

[@JohnnyCarver2024OC]

You should check out every saw film and rank them from worst to best

[@anaalicia5029]

I liked part three very much. Of course it won’t live up to the original but that was a fun movie. A guilty pleasure

[@andrewnguyen6846]

Can't believe Elvis didn't mentioned the actual Starship Troopers game released before Helldivers 2

[@blakeprocter5818]

There are actually two games as far as I remember. A first person shooter from the early-mid 2000's, and a strategy game from a couple of years ago called Terran Command.

[@DerpyPloo]

And Helldivers 1 released before that! Mad how time works.

[@blakeprocter5818]

@@DerpyPloo What? From what I've read, the first Helldivers came out in 2015, while the first Starship Troopers game came out in 2005?

[@rowaystarco]

There's more than that as well. There's the failed FPS Starship Troopers (I remember being hyped for it back in 2005), before that you had a Real time tactics game released in 2000 (Starship Troopers: Terran Ascendancy). Now in recent days we have the new FPS Starship troopers and the new RTS Starship troopers (Starship Troopers: Terran Command ). I loved the movie back then and actually played both the 2000 and 2005 games. Both were quite bad..@@blakeprocter5818

[@fat.monkey.spunkk2606]

I have been waiting to see Elvis talk about Starship Troopers! OOO RAHH !!!

[@benjaminkraftchick7612]

The "You want to live forever?" quote is legendary. The earliest use I know of comes from WWI, Battle of Belleau Wood, said by Sgt. Dan Daly. Love its use in the first movie!

[@007DEAD]

I think we all missed something that your video really helped point out. During the autopsy in class it was highlighted the bugs don't suffer from the same issues as humans such as fear. The brain bug expressing fear is awesome as a reveal.

[@daddyyu-gi-oh4330]

You had me at ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

[@JimothyThe]

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[@jerrysuaste9519]

I always knew elvis would join the fight for super earth🫡

[@bigrick3267]

I had never seen the trailers for this and had no idea what it was about when one day my cousin and I were chilling and had just smoked a few and decided to go to the movies and nothing was playing that caught our attention so we decided to check out Starship Troopers as we're both big Sci Fi fans and damn was it awesome. loved every minute of this movie

[@BodilBukspytt]

That knock effect on your sponsor segment was so good I actually went to answer my door...

[@santosdr2]

so shit on a shingle is what my mom calls toast with the gravy you use for biscuits and gravy. You pour the gravy on top of the toast and it resembles bird poop. hence the name shit on a shingle.

[@skyhunter2816]

Well that is incorrect. It is a kebab with meat and vegetables.

[@npcimknot958]

Starship troopers is one of the greatest movies ever made.

[@blue-vr8dd]

I'd genuinely call it art

[@anon2427]

I disagree, it fundamentally doesn’t understand what it’s satirizing or even paint a clear image of this society. The director claims this movie satirizes fascism but really, no fascist society is depicted at any point here

[@blue-vr8dd]

@@anon2427 you should watch it again

[@realsteezystevie]

Reported this propaganda to my local democracy officer 🔥

[@JosiahPadgett]

"This bug is afraid" is very impactful. Up till that point we (or the troopers rather) were told (conditioned to think) the bugs have no fear.

[@ethancampbell5610]

Glad to hear Elvis has also enlisted in the fight for democracy. God speed, brother

[@xr0ninx569]

“Why we fight” is a perfect song

[@tio_john]

The opening scene isn't about the benefits of violence, it's about violence as the primordial force that gives space for the other kinds of force we follow.

[@Teethmafia]

I like that the 3rd one just pretty much becomes 40k. Psychers we’re already in the first but now we’ve got wacky big guns, giant mechanized angels, and praying to an alien god.

[@theangrydweller1002]

I love plots set in authoritarian dystopia’s and it’s even more fun when their portrayed as the good guys