The State of Pakistan’s Economy: What Next?

[@mohitkumar-zc8wd]

Some parts are cut out whenever Sabbar points towards military. That speaks volumes about state of affairs in Pakistan 😂

[@shahriyarhaq3047]

May you be damned ,things with you aren't any better.

[@sreyanshuchaterjee3962]

@@shahriyarhaq3047 you must be stupid to even think that way, go pray 5 times a day and relish in your Arab-Turkik Khailfa

[@PHALANGE1931]

@@shahriyarhaq3047 Damn Allahs Dirty Ass🤣

[@snh4753]

Truth usually hurts.

[@MrStylus007]

پاکستان میں ملٹری پہ بات کرنا توہین ڈرٹی ہیری ہے۔

[@youthink5552]

Just one correction for Kaiser sir , INDIAN government abolished Cantonment as INDIAN MILITARY has been insisting that running civilian infrastructure is not their job. So it was INDIAN MILITARY that asked government to abolish Cantonment

[@kpdwivedi1672]

Now all cantonment will become like Chndani chawk and most plots will be allotted to MP, MLA, Ministers and other civilians. In any case most cantonment have become filthy as compared to 1947

[@youthink5552]

@@kpdwivedi1672 because before 1947 Brit’s would have shot INDIANS for dirtying the Cantonment, after freedom spitting and throwing rubbish on roads became democratic due to leftist ideology of chacha

[@sujitsingh2138]

What are you talking about? He is nobody's sir ... If he was an expert he would have talked about fauji corporation paying back taxes on the consumer goods and services they produce... But he will not talk about that which is the real issue... And he would also not talk about blasphemy laws another blockage in progress

[@ldnoida001]

“Sir”! 🤔

[@ldnoida001]

@@kpdwivedi1672 So you saw the cantonments in 1947! Which was the “filthy” Cantonment you have visited?

[@ravishingravi]

Bengali nailed it. No nonsense.

[@tajnawab]

Salute to Dr Qaiser Bengali .. A whole history in a few words speaking with painful voice... A mirror ...

[@ChefbyMistake]

He is Slave of Zardari.

[@riturajput2462]

Truth is, Pakistan is a failed country It was dead culturally socially long back. Then it died economucally Now its died militarilly as well. No military can function without robust economy. The Generals totally disregarded economy,education Health. Military is not expert in economy. What Pakistan lost. Midfle East cashed in. Today Dubai is what Karachi was once. Riyadh is going to be new Lahore. They are fundamentally changing to accept diversity, secularism and planning for future oilless world, where tourism and commerce will play big role. Pakistan's ideology has failed Pakistan has to realise this and learn from Bangladesh, dubai, riyadh. Indians are contributing to growth of middle east. Same indians were thrown out of pakistan. Thats the irony. Middle East is sucking all the talent. Pakistan has become a pest of the region that noone wants

[@rakadus]

The most incisive shortest summary description of Pakistan.

[@SANDEEPKUMAR-vb8vp]

In urdu it is said ke rogue state of pakistan/napakistan GURBAT JAHALAT DEHSHATGARDI AUR TAMAM JURMO KA MARKAZ HAI.

[@Setlinsubba]

He detonated Atom boom 🤯💥

[@UdayGupta-f5v]

Attendance to listen to these words of eminent sense : 35 ? 20 ? 15 ? In India, during the 1991 forex crisis, I remember, an entire blockbuster- match- sized housefull crowd turned up at Ferozshah Kotla (cricket) stadium in Delhi to listen to a similar series of short talks by economists (and actively react with suggestions and feedback, not just with questions). You could just feel that the janata had an educated interest and eagerness in pulling India out of the hole (that in our case one we had dug with our idiot- Socialist policies). That they keenly felt the humilation of having to mortgage our gold reserves abroad, even if we didn't quite go begging like Pakistan now. Read even the comments here - how many are from Pakistanis ? And also - how many are from Indians ? Indicative of many things I guess.

[@ldnoida001]

How many Paxtanis speak or understand English?

[@kakun63]

​@@ldnoida001they understand Arabia

[@snh4753]

Dil ko bahlanay kay liye ye khiyal achcha hai. That’s the only reason why they hold these programs. 99.99999~% of the people will remain oblivious to these talks by the so called highly intelligent individuals. Ask them to get an world class important job outside of Pakistan if they are such a huge talent.

[@TmInAustin]

The same thought was going through my mind. How serious are we as Pakistanis in looking at this situation objectively. Not many views let alone an active discussion. The participants have laid out things remarkably well in black and white. It’s very disheartening.

[@Health-Blitz]

Exactly What I Was Thinking ... Kaiser and Shabbar are very reasonable people in Pakistan. And still there are just 25 people in Attendance ??!?!??!

[@pradyumnanayak9844]

Unless Pakistani control their Army 🪖, no development of Pakistan is possible.

[@muhammadsalam4844]

Well said.

[@ldnoida001]

That’s something which no intellectual will ever say directly.

[@sreyanshuchaterjee3962]

@@ldnoida001 All intellectuals are spolit brats with enough time in their hands to do arm chair discussions.

[@Indus5950]

​@ldnoida001 Because that will be their last day. Missing. The End.

[@anoopsaxena8096]

Dr Bengali nailed it,in a very short speech he sketched the on going situation confronting Pakistan today

[@shivbisht7598]

Yes bro. Pakistani are best sketcher, they can make only a picture, they can seen best dream Drama.

[@garygeorge-wi7co]

Pakistan will have a cantonment economy, well said by Dr. Bengali.

[@rajeshpatil6463]

Pakistanis didnt worry about living in the life given by Almighty Allah/God but they worry only the so called life in JANNAT & 72 HURREY after death 😢😢😢

[@highhousefoodmart2011]

Only person who spoke eloquently and meaningful was Mr Kaiser Bengali. Absolutely on point and sharp rebuke to pak army.

[@sudiptakiran]

As always Dr. Kaiser Bengali is to the point in a concise and precise manner. It's a pleasure to hear him speak!!!

[@shivbisht7598]

😂😂Zaidi is busi to play PUBJI.

[@chebrolusubbarao6523]

Happy to see this many books in one room in Pakistan, hope all are not only one book printed on different dates😅

[@PS-ej2xn]

They are all in Arabic, on Arab history that every Pakistani is proud of.

[@ChefbyMistake]

@@PS-ej2xn Yes Arabs are proud and build good states. Many Indians work there.

[@PS-ej2xn]

@@ChefbyMistake Every one should. Allah has chosen the land as the Center of known Universe.

[@ARShanker]

@@PS-ej2xn and you Beg them and depend on their Sadqa and Khairaat

[@PS-ej2xn]

@@ARShanker it's an absolute honour for every Pakistani. Which lover of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) will not be thankful for such a privilege? It's not like PakIstanis are depending upon unbelieving Hindus.

[@Sacha-bacha]

I have worked for Investment Management firm and was part of the $700 billion portfolio ( Manhattan NYC) and my conclusion after viewing this program that Pakistan will suffer sever pain after few years. Without cutting Military budget by 50% and investing in Human Capital we will not come out of the problems. Establishment should completely control with ownership not like when economy screwed up blame it democracy and use politicians as a puppet. Educated and skillful people should leave and don’t waste your time and skills.

[@garygeorge-wi7co]

'' cutting Military budget by 50% '' Hope you are not living in Pakistan.

[@garygeorge-wi7co]

''Educated and skillful people should leave '' If all educated people leave the country, it is only jahils who will run the country.

[@ramanv.r3422]

Contonement Colonisation !! Nicely put by Dr Bengali.

[@syedadeelhussain2691]

I always reminisce about Late Dr Mahbub-ul-Haq, who spoke so eloquently on economic issues during his days at the planning commissions and later as the Finance Minister. We must remember that HDI - Human Development Index was pioneered by Late Dr Mahbub-ul-Haq Sahib. Even Dr Amartya Sen (Nobel prize winner) acknowledged the work done by Late Dr Haq! We in Pakistan need to teach and respect economics as a noble profession. Unfortunately, many people do BA/MA in Economics and end up as school teachers. These graduates never care to write and publish manuscripts such as peer-reviewed research papers, monographs, pamphlets, seminars or colloquium technical papers, or books. So to improve economic policy and decision-making for problem-solving we need to inculcate evidence-based thematic, & scientific (positivist), and ethnographic research methods within the academic discipline and domain of economics and development studies. Thank you!

[@garygeorge-wi7co]

The elephant in the room is your army and the infinite amount of hatred towards India.

[@navinbhatia9936]

It sad that Pakistan youth & elite don't listen to experts.

[@Meow09090]

Youth doesnt listen?? Youth is held hostage what does it matter if they listen or not when they are not the one pulling the strings.

[@gplk3842]

​@@Meow09090by listening at least they can figure out or think something towards growth

[@zainahmed1994]

youth is busy immigrating to better countries. Elite want pakistan to stay the same.

[@abdulrehman-vm3ls]

youth is comprises of youthiyas now adays , those who are least thinking creature on earth.

[@AshokKumar-lj9cd]

Excellent discussions. Mr. Bengali is an intellectual, Mr. Zaidi a pragmatist & Mr. Aqsad and idealist. Pakistan requires an urgent but balanced & ideal mix of the the three medications suggested by the 3 gentlemen if it wishes to survive as an honourable nation.

[@AdamNashanas]

Mr. Bingali is nothing but a prejudiced minion.

[@anilhoshing2438]

5300 views only out of 25 crore people plus 100 in hall. Ghamidi speaks or maulana speaks u have millions of views. Really pakistani people looking for allah to sort out all worries.

[@afriend2177]

How would you stop your top political and military leaders from stealing public money? That's the primary question.

[@muhammadsalam4844]

Let us have such lectures. Weldone. hurrah for organizers.

[@gbtusa1325]

No matter how much these intellectuals scream, as long as they don't take out religion from every facet of life and make it a personal matter nothing will ever change.

[@vikasbhargava5653]

Azidi saheb, I can present a 4th scenario. Pakistan will disintegrate. Na rahega Baans na Bajegi Baansuri. Pakistan has to and will split into 4 parts this time. Baluchistan, Sindhudesh, Pashtunwali (Afghanistan) and Paxstan. As an Indian I thoroughly enjoyed this discussion.

[@alihammadshah]

Tum log to yeh bi kehte ho keh Ravanr ney Sita ki nahi mari thi

[@azeemaz1261]

Jani apna manipur and khalistan smbhalo .... 😂😂

[@1525boy]

👍🏼👌🏼🇮🇳

[@ibratnak]

Then, it will be 4 different countries employing 4 different strategies against India. Afghans who liberated Kashmir and led 3/4 wars with India will have direct access to the boys of Hindustan. Then RAW's bid to cause terrorism in Pakistan will be multiplied ten times by China and other rivals of India to cause terrorism in India. Punjab will still border India, and the Punjabi majority in the army that had to be deployed to Balochistan, KPK and Sindh because the local security agencies are just too corrupt and inept, would now be available to Punjab alone, as would the nuclear arsenal and Khalistani insurgency. The federation of Pakistani provinces is already unstable, which if disintegrated will stabilize and become more lethal for India, at least the northern martial countries.

[@1525boy]

@@ibratnak Then so be it. At least there would be no more “Pakistan.”😀

[@Sevenofnine86]

Shows how back in time Pakistan education syllabus and pattern is . One of panel member never heard that we can do PhD in 2 different disciplines . 😂😂RIP

[@perincherigopinathan3586]

Scarce resources are / were wasted on defense on the perceived threat from India for the last 76 years. Only Generals enriched themselves on that pretext

[@garygeorge-wi7co]

The military mainly protects itself by keeping the threat of India alive. The two nuclear-armed neighbors have been in conflict since the partition of South Asia in 1947. The militaries have fought four wars, with three of them over Kashmir valley. Even though Pakistan initiated these conflicts, it has told the public that it was only countering Indian aggression. In recent years, Pakistan has avoided a direct war, perhaps because it lost all previous ones. But it relies on militant groups based in Pakistan to keep tensions alive. This February offered a glimpse of such dynamics at play. In turn, the Pakistani Army gets the perfect excuse for its oversized burden on the country’s economy. Like a mafia protection racket, the military creates its own demand.

[@nlybnrj]

I admire the CA for his paper work, That's the way any serious meetings has to be conducted.

[@riturajput2462]

Pakistan military will have to voluntarily take backseat or it will be forced to because whole country will die otherwise. Military. cant run economy. Generals are public servants. Not masters

[@ldnoida001]

CA is also an ex Minister.

[@utsatta3192]

Dr Bengali is absolutely spot on, on his assessment. Brutally accurate. No fairy tales.

[@GulBirdsPlanet]

Very informative conference regarding current situation and intellectuals are right in suggestions especially on Human develpment

[@PS-ej2xn]

Sad to see people being misled by enemies of Pakistan. What PakIstan needs now more than ever is the final push in learning, teaching, following, implementing and spreading Islam, inside and outside of Pakistan.

[@SANDEEPKUMAR-vb8vp]

Rogue state of Pakistan/napakistan GURBAT JAHALAT DEHSHATGARDI AUR TAMAM JURMO KA MARKAZ HAI.

[@aanakrukavi]

Present condition of Pakistan is due to overuse of Islam.

[@nacpatil]

So true. Everyone should live life like in madina. Travel on camels, eat dates. No gas required. No dollar required and jannat is guaranteed too that too with 72.

[@riturajput2462]

If thats what all pakistanis want tgen why even talk of economy. Be hapoy Make your new kabba. A pakistani kabba. And start a new Haj and start collecting money. Shut down banks which are haram. Shut down tv, radio, newspapers. Stop cinema,dancing all haram. Your wedding should have no dance and music. learn from Taliban. Why womem leave houses and go out without burkha?

[@rakadus]

Learning, teaching and Islam in the same sentence is quite a stretch. Requires humongous efforts and more importantly a change in mindset.

[@kpdwivedi1672]

Its good at least there is open discussion about the prevailing problems

[@dugyan]

My guess is that the moderator is the wife of a general. These retired generals living off the state's largesse continue to inflict damage on the country well beyond their stint in the government. e.g. Asad Durrani. For Durrani the country's population can go to hell as long as he continue to cling to his fantasies of regional and global domination and being a participant in the Great Game. This is the core constituency that fuels the "ghairat brigade." As long as this section continues to have any traction whatsoever in the policy circles, Pak is doomed.

[@shrisheel]

Not possible. Every retired general is outside Paxtan.

[@Meow09090]

​@@shrisheelsome live in cantonments inside their private castles guarded by 100's of guards while the poor starve outside of their boundary walls and cant even walk anywhere without being mugged. Pakistani people are beghairat, divided, confused and conquered. Should have run these people over 50 years ago. Ayub Khan shouldve been dragged out in the streets by the people and ripped apart by the people's bare hands, today Pakistan would be the sole power in this region if that was done.

[@cmramakrishnan9570]

Dr Mosama has got together an excellant team to discuss what ails Pak economy today and remedial measures. after listening to them, it is clear there is no lack of talent in Pakistan , knowledge and ability to analyse its current economic and political mess.

[@Padosidesi2828]

The setting for this event is awesome!!

[@zulfiqarmahmood8015]

An eye-opening discussion you guys had today, Mashallah. I like it very much, this is the first time I come to know that we have people like you who know very well what is the problem and how to solve it and who makes this problem and you know the culprits. Dr. Kaiser Bengali is an outspoken gentleman indeed.

[@dorbin101]

I have seen many interviews of Dr. Kaiser Bengali. He is more practical and knows the root cause of problem.

[@cmkar1013]

*I wish and pray for the poor and needy.* _Love from Erbil Kurdistan_

[@MianSherjil]

Why they havent shared complete session why omitting clips ?

[@laghari81]

Doctor Qaisr was extremely to the point and explained the clear situation of Pakistan well.

[@asifhayat1606]

Very informative and realistic discussion. Happy to see openness and freedom of speech with critical analysis on key stakeholders.

[@vineetraina119]

Pathetic economic situation of Pakistan saazish of RAA and West.😅😂.You govern Pakistan and IMF bears the repercussion..

[@riturajput2462]

They are enjoying kafirs taxpayers money. What is IMF?made from.kafir miney

[@PHALANGE1931]

🤣🤣🤣

[@syedfasih74]

Very informative. Thanks for uploading

[@arslanarifbutt9537]

Well Nourished Discussion Overall but Mian Atif in TPL was apt... Moreover, Classic Response by Mr. Bangali at 1:36:00

[@malikzafarful]

Sir shaber have exporting items suitable for India???

[@dr.asifshah4985]

Excellent and very informative discussion...

[@khalidaahmad7835]

I strongly believe, once the focus will be on citizens of Pakistan, new strategies will be carved out. There are experts available in country but no will at the top.

[@prajyotthokal5875]

This is the most logical, realistic,and sensible research of Pakistan I seen today..love youPIIA from India ❤

[@nizamuddinahmadaali3244]

Very informative thought by the gusts, but who is listening in the government. One has to be educated more than FA & BA from Punjab university to understand.

[@pramodmenon7962]

Bharat also had similar situations in 1991. But we revised our economic policies - Liberalisation came into the economy I am thankful to Dr. Man Mohan Singh for that as a finance Minister (Not as a Prime minister) We didnt had the blockage by any kind of religious laws, so we succeeded now.

[@suryarao4821]

And also highly remarkable " Nation First" agenda of leadership from 2014.

[@reghup3747]

Don't see this incomparison to 1991 India...Foundation and source of problem is different... A military which runs country always get into hell situation in few decades...engaging in wars is the way country has been run from loots...when Military is weak, they can only loot inward and eat their own resources for survival... Military leaders don't feel safe after retirement, this shows the state of country....

[@shivbisht7598]

👍👍👍100%agrewd. Experiment in 1947 by JINNAH fail in PAKISTAN. But we thnx to JINNAH 24 Cr bheekhari left India.

[@garygeorge-wi7co]

Jinnah did the biggest favour to the Hindus and Sikhs.

[@parjanyashukla176]

When will there be a discussion forum "The Pakistan Institute for Pakistani Affairs".

[@shermuhammadzafar7186]

Mr. Shabbar and other allied gentlemen have enlightened the factualities of our economic crises, thus we would to stand for or against the all evil forces whether it belong to any institution.

[@MuhammadAwais-ul7cf]

Excellent conversation by Shabbar Zaidi sb. Hard facts narrated

[@entertainmentscreen139]

i like a Syed shabbir zaidi rough and tough straightforward point of views and cures also and other intellectuals are also excellent in their views having strong and evident remedies.. thanke PIIA for this amazing intellects event..

[@ABCD-cw3fs]

😂😂😂😂 intellect😂😂😂Sabbb Aayyaash

[@muhammadharees2225]

Where this meeting take place? How to attend it? Certain requirements?

[@saghirahmedmemon7947]

Cantonment colonialism……well said Bengali sb 👍

[@rakadus]

"Cantonment colonization". I learnt a new word today. India learnt it's lesson of "foreign Central Bank governors" within two terms; not 15 years

[@shivbisht7598]

😂😂Safar said Pakistan relation were not good with India. Whatsa joks? DAUO KAOMI NAZARIYE wale Aaj relation theek na hone aur THEEK krne ki baat kr rahe hain.😂😂😂😂

[@TheGrimStoic]

Have we though - Raghu is the darling of Wire, Print, Laundry. Hindu, HT

[@asghai9584]

Brilient presentation of ecnomic malidies of country .

[@barendraray8696]

Very thoughtful interaction.

[@madasurkrishnamurthy6056]

It is.great to hear some sensible people

[@zahidmehboob6829]

Great ininitiative by Dr Masooma Hassan made it possible for us to listen from zaidi sb. Aqadas sb and Qaisar Bangali sb. They all delivered from the truths of hear. May Allah Bless them and protect them. This is the way for searching solutions.

[@hassangardezi3822]

Do you guys test your audio system before the discussion. It’s so difficult to hear some of the experts, especially Mr. Bengali and the people asking questions.

[@ravishingravi]

Spellbinding speech by Shabbar Zaidi. With facts, figures and context.

[@haroonbaig5674]

I want to be a part of ds discussion..how can i do it as i have da solution to economic problm.

[@surudog4929]

Does Pakistan have an economy? I am asking a serious question. It is an agricultural country that imports food to feed its people and valuable agricultural land is being taken away to create HDA homes and such. It’s population is exploding, 1/2 of its school going children don’t go to school and those who finish school or graduate from college don’t have real life skills to contribute to the world. It exports $35B/year and imports 70$B/year. There is no sense of real education in the country and hence can never really have a functioning economy. Help me clear any of my misunderstandings I may have.

[@ftahir76]

An amazing point by D.. Aqdas at 1:21:10. If goods and services should move freely then why not people!!!!!!!

[@thinkpack1]

Because that would involve competent people, which Pakistan lacks

[@ftahir76]

@@thinkpack1 The Point is generic, not Pakistan specific.

[@gopalkrishnamukerjea4319]

Very honest and educated debate!

[@syedkhalilahmedshahsyed3172]

It was very nice debate and inovative too

[@Waraqah-Ibn-Nawfal6485]

Thank you for your positive attitude. One thing you have to tell your people is that India produced a large number of Scientists, Engineers, Diplomats, eminent doctors and famous and successful corporate heads which bring positive attitude, progress, development, breakthrough, growth, momentum, wealth etc., whereas Pakistan is in the bankruptcy of intellectual minds and is famous for producing top class terrorists which brings hatred, destruction, poverty, annihilation, carnage, extremism, massacre, murder slaughter etc. Children should be sent to schools and colleges to get scientific temper instead of extremists breeding centers where the maulavi teaches about fairytales, injustice to woman, dreaming about 72 virgin, hate for people of other cammunity, a flat earth, radicalism, vanity, sixth century morality etc. Remember, just because of one lunatic Usama Bin Laden who wanted to show the power of the religion, how many nations got destroyed and how many innocent people got perished.

[@ayazyounis6497]

Great speeches.

[@anjummirza1452]

Excellent...

[@bhaveshpatel7042]

Good and revealing program 😊

[@ARShanker]

Bhavesh Bhai but how many Pakistanis will accept this and wt abt pakistani establishment even breathe it

[@567ghj_X]

Nothing to reveal , It's just how to re-live

[@shermuhammadzafar7186]

Let us have to take necessary measures to balance expenditures in accordance with our earnings and adopt to austerity formula keeping in view the bad circumstances of the country which otherwise may suffer not only to single man but to whole, if the irregularities are not abandoned.

[@ramachandraization]

This was a detailed and well thought out discussion on all out problems of dear motherland- Pakistan . Keep organising such like discussions so that some good viable solutions may come out of problems of Pakistan. These are cream of great think tanks please.

[@addytov]

the show is cut out, i dont know why if they wanted to cut it out then there was no need to upload it .

[@surendrakulkarni8581]

Amazing stuff! Over 1 hour 43 minutes, but not a single word on digitalization, clean energy, sustainable business practices, lean/smart manufacturing or Technology! Truly scary scenario.

[@muhammadluqman857]

Where is this

[@aqeelanwar7571]

Excellent discussion

[@saqibhussain1074]

wonderful session, all panelists.

[@rivaldotaylor5331]

One solution to Pakistan's woes is to make peace with India and start robust trade relationship. Pakistan exports are still competitive in India due to freight advantage and similar lifestyle. It will also help reduce current account deficit and debt due to cheaper imports from India.

[@rivaldotaylor5331]

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[@KulkarniNik]

That should've been done a decade or so ago while they still had some industry left. If they open up now their market will flood with cheaper high quality Indian goods including cars, medicines etc. It'll cause immense short term pain, even more increase in current account deficit but will bring inflation under control. In future if managed properly with low inflation their economy can revive. Of course all this requires their current feudal style owners to support their national interest and subdue personal gains. As one speaker said, the current system works for their elite and hence not willing to give it up. Feel sorry for Pakistanis but having lived with many in undergrad days I can be certain it's their anti hindu hatred that's the root cause of this toxic mess they're in.

[@vedants.vispute77]

How will Pakistan compete when Karachi Stock Exchange is $23B while BSE's Mcap is $4.16T?

[@yjkbuddy]

Who is the moderator..

[@ahsan.06]

Sir Shabbar gave the best analysis. Realistic, visionary and based on factual arguments. The scenarios he gave in his presentation were quite realistic and scenario 3 being the most significant if implemented effectively can bring a radical shift in the economic structure of Pakistan. However, the overall situation may take years to change.

[@shermuhammadzafar7186]

The question raised by the audiences are required sympathetic considerstion with all fairness and sincerity.

[@moinsyed]

I had seen parts of this program, today I saw the full length. Very plain truth. Will we accept the reality and change!

[@sentinel9293]

In Pakistan flag people mistake Kaskol for crescent 🙏 "Pakistan ka matalab kya - Bhukhe Nange Bikhari" 🙏

[@BigAngelLove77]

ماشااللہ😍❤️ پاکستان مدینہ کی ریاست بن چکا ہے پاکستان میں زندگی کی بنیادی سہولیات بجلی پانی گیس موجود نہیں

[@kchandrakant50]

Very few youths on such aimportant event !!!!!!!!!!!!!! All old age people , quite astonishing thing as well as showing the academic status of universities in Pakistan

[@hassanrajput9576]

In economic and societal discussions, "Anglo-Saxon" can refer to certain economic and political systems associated with countries like the United Kingdom and the United States. It's used to characterize capitalist and market-oriented economies with individual property rights and limited government intervention.

[@vickyyadav5723]

Rajput???? Which ethnicity r u from?

[@a1g2yub]

@pakistan-institute, I wanted to ask if you would allow me to share just Shabbar Zaidi"s speech? Obviously I have to edit it, not distorting it though.

[@muhammadkhalidrazzaq7643]

Excellent

[@takahapana557]

Honest and frank statements by the panellist about Pakistan's reality and problems.

[@sahilyadav1743]

Excellent talk

[@Health-Blitz]

Pakistan Army is trying to Act like CCP, but their properties, bank accounts assets are in USA, Kanedda, Dubai 😂

[@gopalsriwastav8852]

VEDAS AND THEIR TIME PERIOD The basis of Sanatan Dharma are Vedas. There are four Vedas: Rigu, Sam, Yayur and Atharva. Vedas are collection of Mantras from different Rishis. Our Rishis were Mantra Drashta. They actually used to see the Mantras. Then memorize it, because there was no script, and later pass on to others.It is said Mohammad Sahab also saw Koran Ayats coming down from heaven. In Christianity also Ten commandments came down from heaven. Actually to start with there were only three Vedas: Rigu, Sam and Yayur and all sorts of Mantras were mingled in all the three. Then a Rishi Parishad under the presidentship of Vishwamitra requested Gautam Rishi to edit the Vedas and make them more systematic. Here I would like to mention that any Rishi named was not a particular person, he was one of the clan. E.g. there was a Vishwamitra in Satya Yuga making all sorts of troubles for king Harishchandra and there was a Vishwamitra in Treta Yuga, a few lakh years later, as Guru of Ram and Lakshman. Gautam Rishi made Vedas four. In Rigu he put prayers of different gods. Actually they are Vaidik gods like Indra, Agni, Vayu etc whom we generally do not worship now. There is history also, but it is just a mention of an incidence or a name without giving any details. In Sam Ved there are songs and music In Yayur there are medicines and diseases. Our Ayurvedic pathy has come out of it. In Atharva all sorts of rituals, Super Natural things and even different Superstitions are given. There are three types of commentaries on Vedas. Upanishads, they discuss the philosophies in Vedas. Smritis, they give the rules of society from Vedas e.g. Manusmriti. Puranas, which elaborate the history given in Vedas. Now let's come to our main topic, TIME PERIOD OF VEDAS. Western historians and also their Indian disciples do admit that Rigu Veda is the oldest book in the world but they say that it is 5000 years old, which is not correct. Ved Mantras were accumulated not over a decade or a century, those were accumulated over thousands of years. Some of the Mantras are as old as a lakh years or more. Let us check the evidences. First let us consider the language of Vedas. Though the language of Vedas is called Vadic Sanskrit but it has nothing to do with the present Sanskrit. Nobody knows the language of Vedas. A few hundred years back the Prime Minister of Karnataka Kingdom Sri Sayandacharya taking the help of different religious books translated Vedas in Sanskrit. Now everybody writes about Vedas based on his translation. Actually it is not possible to translate original Vedas. In original Vedas it's said that a Swara had nine pronounciation. E.g. in Hindi the Swara E has two pronounciation as in दीन and दिन, both have different meanings, first one is poor and second is day. So when a Swara had nine pronounciation all having different meanings. With time when the food and environment was not so pure people were not able to pronounce all the nine different pronounciations. So they reduce it to three. But these days one can't pronounce even three. So now Vedpathies show the three positions of Swaras by their hand 'Up', 'Middle' and 'Low'. About fifty years back there were five or six such Vedpathies in Karnataka and Maharashtra. I don't know if any such Vedpathies still exit or not. At the time of Kalidas the Sanskrit was at its zenith. So from beginning Sanskrit itself must have covered many thousand years. And then Vadic Sanskrit? Who knows. As everybody knows there was no script at that time. So Vedas passed from one generation to other just by pronounciation. The pronounciation was so important that if one didn't pronounce it correctly the meaning will be quite different and everything will be spoiled. Many places in Vedas the incidence is mentioned that the father of Britrasur performed a Yagna to get a son who will kill Indra. But as he was an Asur so he could not pronounce the Mantras correctly. The Mantras he pronounced meant that he should get a son who will be killed by Indra and Indra killed Britrasur. So the language of Vedas itself shows that Vedas are many thousand years old. Now let's take Geographical evidences. In Vedas always River Saraswati is mentioned. Hardly any other river is mentioned. So Saraswati was the most important river of that time. We know that it was vanished a few thousand years back. Such a great river at that time can't vanish in a decade or even a century. It must have taken a few thousand years to vanish.In Vedas a sea is mentioned which was parallel to Dead sea but it was vanished some 50 thousand years back. So some of the Mantras are 50 thousand years or more old. Vedic deities are different from today's. Indra, Agni, Vayu etc are Vedic deities. We know them but don't worship anymore. In Vedas it often comes that Indra cut the wings of Hills and Mountains. Everybody will laugh, what nonsense do the Mountains had wings? But wait let's imagine the situations one lakh years back when Himalaya was coming out of earth. What a chaos it might had been when such a great mountain range was coming out. In the day they might have seen a hill or mountain, next morning it had gone without a trace. So they thought it flew away. They worshiped Indra to save them from the chaos. Ultimately Himalaya was out. The situation became stable, no more flying of hills and mountains. So they took that Indra had responded to their prayers and cut the wings of Hills and Mountains. Then they saw a mountain in the sea. They thought that when Indra was cutting the wings of mountains this one took refuge here, they called it Mainak. So some of the Mantras are as old as a lakh years. So the Western historians are wrong to say that Rigu Veda is only five thousand years old.

[@chebrolusubbarao6523]

Telling all these to a Pakistan is playing music in front of a dumb. Lets not waste much of our energy

[@ankurgautam3690]

It's good to enlighten them about their heritage. They all are converts after invasions. Keep going , educating, social media has its own influence.

[@riturajput2462]

Modern hinduism is not same as hinduism 70years back. No untouchabilty now. No castes now. No sati. No ghunghat. No joint families. We cant even imagine what it was 5000years back. Thats unthinkable. Todays punjabis laugh at Canadians punjabi which sounds archaic. 30years gap. Languages are fluid. Pakistans urdu will be a dead language. Because it is not growing. It was mix of hindi and persian. Pakistan has cut india from persia. So new words from either persian or hindi are coming in Urdu. Urdu is a dead langiage. To survive in india it has to take new words and they will only come from hindi or english or regional language. Indian urdu will slowly get reabsorbed in local languages. Pakistan urdu has no future either. The whole pakistani culture is stuck in time. Indian culture has modernised and marched ahead. Pakistan has not been able to assimilate new ideas Though both punjab have punjabi Indian punjabi is influencing eueope uk australia canada and changing punjabis. But pak punjan has lost its Punjabi. Lost its kashmiri. Lost its sindhi. In pusuit of munoculturing pakistan has lost its roits in south asia. Pakistan tried to ape Saudia Turkey. But no matter howmuch they ape them, they will be called indian muslims. Palestinians are suffering They cant becime Saudi muslims or Eygyptian muslims. Then how can pakistan?The DNA is Indian and will remain Indian.

[@vizmouli]

"Our Rishis were Mantra Drashta. They actually used to see the Mantras. " - This proves India also has Chuthiyas like Pakistan

[@muhammadhaque3448]

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[@vikasbhargava5653]

Arre Paxstan exports a lot.... of pink salt. I heard even Footballs and Aam (Mango). Kachcha Baniyans are their specialty aur ab toh suna hai imported cotton se bante hain... Wow. Also some animal skin products the angrez call leather. Big exporter country Paxstan.

[@AP-do6sv]

This conversation is 70 years too late. At this point the country is beyond repair. Pakistan has all the ingridients for a revolution, angst in youth, lack of opportunity, control by armed forces and poverty.

[@aqeelanwar7571]

Superb talk

[@salqubeq5203]

DR Bengali is far superior in his critical analysis. next is Zaidi & then come others. Good discussions & informative. Thanks. PK is doomed already. No way out AT ALL!

[@AnwarNayani]

Mind d boggling music 🎶

[@somnathde8680]

Good Subject.

[@khalidaahmad7835]

Will military, judges, bureaucrats and Parliamentarian let go their privileges and start paying their taxes as a first steps?

[@AbdulHannan-uv6ym]

A strong political government + sustained democracy + time is thre solution. The government that can implement its will and make policies and tame military establishment and decouple them from businesses. Currently military establishment has become a for profit organization.

[@Jvs-eq3iy]

The first speaker, (black coat) wala is talking BS bringing in Cricket and Anglo- Saxon Institutions.

[@muhammadamrelia127]

YOU WERE EDITED MANY PARTS OF SPEECH OF DR AQDAS SPEECH.

[@mohammadjaffersherazee2400]

Shabbar Zaidi sb is absolutely correct we as a nation must change our thinking and ways drastically and immediately Status Quo is not all feasible alternate to change positively is total destruction and oblivion