The State of the 2022 BMW M3 | Car and Driver Road Test

[@lanegunnell1218]

Totally agree on the numbers game. Any performance car nowadays is gonna be fast, gas or electric, but electric is gonna smoke it in the real world. What matters is how the car makes you feel- the experience. That's all I care about anymore. Does it give me a smile? Is it fun and rewarding? That's what really matters.

[@2010challengerRT]

Exactly. 0-60 in 3.9 seconds, oh how slow. Those were supercar numbers only a decade or 2 ago.

[@firechase7640]

Exactly buy what you like, I’m not a fan of electric cars so no go for me no matter how good they are. But more power to those who like them buy it and enjoy it.

[@craigyirush3492]

Agree, it’s how it makes you feel, but not sure electric will be faster in anything but a straight line drag race. They’re so much heavier, have limited range, and take ages to charge. They’d definitely lose a rally, or a race on a track that lasted more than, say, an hour.

[@USNRET610]

I have to have a good exhaust note

[@jeffsmith9651]

Agree. For me on the backroads give me a naturally aspirated , 500hp , manual that handles well and I’m good.

[@dano727]

Carlos is a great on screen presenter. KZbin is not just the future of automotive journalism, it's The Now ! I still have a few automotive magazine subscriptions, but I rarely ever read them as I prefer this format much better. More of this please.

[@EDKFtravels]

I like the look of those tires NOT being rubber bands way more than the current style.

[@MyWatchTherapy]

Totally agree. I'm going to buy this sme car and spec it with the standard wheels, which is used here.

[@thekeccles1996]

The state of this car reminds me of how Cammisa talked about the 991.2 911. A 911 that doesn't have any performance-enhancing options (like rear-wheel steer, adjustable dampers, etc.) ends up being an incredibly satisfying car because it feels more natural and as close to the ethos of the original car as one can get in a modern version. Lap times and raw speed are so overrated compared to getting the driving experience right.

[@shahaknagiel2845]

Camissa also put out a good video about the history of the M3 -- complements this one nicely, actually -- and has some similar things to say about the purity and fun of older/slower cars (the E30 M3 in that case). And then he get absolutely spanked around the track by Randy Pobst in a G80...good fun. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2SomoxtqLaKqJY

[@CarlosLago]

And he's right!

[@thekeccles1996]

@@shahaknagiel2845 I've seen it! Been loving the stuff he's been putting out for Hagerty just like I've been enjoying Carlos's content from C&D.

[@Sorry_ImTruthful]

Every driver should treat their car like this!.. just enjoy the feedback your car has to you and the road.

[@angledanarius]

Keep ‘‘em coming Carlos! I agree with you 100%, sometimes the numbers game get overwhelming so it nice to come back down to earth and “stay in you own lane” great video

[@sinistercollector9223]

I thought this video was gonna be more of the same information but I was wrong and I thoroughly enjoyed this! Thank you Carlos!

[@supremewhip]

Carlos giving C&D a second life

[@3rdGUMObro]

Agree with base MT. If you really want an actual track car, it's probably not going to be a brand new sedan anyway. If you want a fun road car with a back seat, this is more than enough performance. Why pay more?

[@Gjeebs]

Very well said when talking about ex's being faster so its freeing. Fully agree

[@s.c.1972]

Awesome video with great insight. I really felt like I was getting a 1 on 1 evaluation of the car with a manual and not just some video with a bunch of drag races and benchmark numbers. Excellent review!!

[@JJPMustang]

I absolutely adore Isle of Man green!!!

[@DavidFlores-tu2yf]

Love love this video, Carlos! You bring such a calm and appropriate mindset to this vehicle. I'm definitely in the sporty yet family fun sedan group. And you're completely right, nowadays EVs are pulling insane hp figures but it's all about the drive and the driver's preference. I absolutely love this M3 and I am excited for the future of this vehicle.

[@depellerinluc]

Reminds me of my friend, Ugh Lee

[@GlennC789]

You'll get used to it. Remember when Audi came out with that giant front grill, like some bottom-feeding fish? Maybe you don't, but it was hideous. But now it's normal. That's just how fashion works.

[@shahaknagiel2845]

@@GlennC789 Yep. Just wait until the NEXT fashion emergency. This look may not be as easy on the eyes as the classic lines of the E39, but there's no doubt it's an incredible driving machine. And yes, you get used to -- and maybe even find yourself starting to admire some parts of -- the looks.

[@GlennC789]

@@shahaknagiel2845 Absolutely. New things come out. Old people like me say they're hideous, or ungodly, or whatever, and ten years later everybody accepts them as normal. Either new people are fools, or old people are idiots, or fashion and culture evolve.

[@mrhinton101]

This review was the gentlest way to say “it’s aight”.

[@creakid]

& how is the steering feel if you switch away from comfort mode?

[@ak2112]

Carlos is the best

[@michaelp4122]

I just wish I could afford an M3. Why did BMW discontinue manuals in their 3 series?

[@rlsedition]

One of the earlier generations of the M3 was my favorite attainable performance car, but no longer. It's not that my expectations have changed, but BMW has, as the Brits say, "lost the plot". The latest M3, even this one, is way larger than it needs to be, which results in in it being heavier as well. To add insult to injury, the exterior and interior are way over the top; some would say it's ugly. My attainable dream car is now the Alfa Giulia Quadrifoglio and my current ride is the Ti Sport model (now Veloce). I use it almost daily and the blend of chassis competence, real-world performance from the 4-cylinder motor (power + fuel economy) and aesthetics is without reproach.

[@brandodurham]

The Alfa is a pile of junk. Go drive one of these and see if any of your complaints bear fruit

[@rlsedition]

@@brandodurham Your comments have no basis in fact in relation to the actual experience of driving the Giulia. It's a great car and wasn't hit by the "ugly stick" like many BMW models.

[@backnu]

Hey Carlos, some of us enjoy options and road feel. We don't all live in places like Michigan where the roads are terrible. I get you are trying to appeal to the purists, but times have changed. Let those of us that enjoy options experience them.

[@threefive2072]

how can you forget the e46 code!

[@mcwendel8066]

Great video!

[@drakegao1]

Type r is also a sports sedan

[@eclipsez0r]

Modern electric vehicles DO NOT dust this M3. The M3 destroys them on drag and track. Did you make this outlandish statement to generate clicks and comments? It worked

[@gigi9467]

I think what carlos is trying to say is miata is always the answer, “inexpensive” simple, reliable, light cheap to run and maintain..

[@2loco]

I still can't get over that grille 🤢🤮

[@DH-sm7sw]

Got the xDrive comp. Fantastic car; had an M5 and RS5 coupe (both current models) and previous M2 - the M3 is the perfect blend of them and better than any one; can’t think of any aspect in which any of the others beats the M3…..except the RS5 and M5 are better looking!

[@mesropmadzharyan6727]

It’s sad to say but this might be the last best M3.

[@Boostleaked]

The performance is fantastic but the looks shouldn’t be so bad on a $100k sport sedan. I’d actually take an x3m competition which I had a blast driving at a bmw event over this. I mean as a rental because I cannot live with 12mpg on a daily. Lol.

[@NewCastleIndiana]

Why doesn’t BMW make a M3 like 2 seat sports car like a Corvette, F type, NSX…?

[@dct124]

Good presentation. What's in the bag tho

[@andreajackson2925]

Love this car! Tesla does not give me the snap and crackle..it shouldn't be mentioned lol

[@GtstangLv]

I like Carlos. I don’t like the music.

[@rexwitherspoon7176]

I'd rather have a Giulia Quad.

[@Kanazawa1997]

Well, I was going to say that the car looks like Giulia Quad before I saw your comment but, after seeing the cover.

[@rogermoore2365]

Bmw for me. The alfa is nice

[@andreasausmuc]

Excellent taste, man 🍾

[@shahaknagiel2845]

And your Alfa mechanic will appreciate the extra work.

[@andreasausmuc]

@@shahaknagiel2845 Have my 3rd Alfa now, 150.000 km on my current one, zero problems

[@Heath3250]

Pricing has killed it for me. It was once at least ‘somewhat affordable’.

[@KP-xi4bj]

EVs are only fast in a straight line. In the real world, the roads are not always straight.

[@michaelb9055]

C A R L O S

[@CarlosLago]

is that like an acronym or something

[@mudemmeonick]

Hideous things. Almost revolting. Glad to have ditched bmw a few years ago before they prioritized catering to chinese preferences (guess who loves big pointless grills...).

[@nessuno5403]

You're not alone 👍🏻

[@abcdLeeXY]

It’s definitely not a pretty car but I’m glad it’s fun to drive. Just don’t ever look back once it’s parked.

[@Areku06]

Looks better in person, m3 in gray looks amazing.

[@dor1tomcswagger69]

All I can say is that this car is ugly

[@gigi9467]

It hard for me to call any german car a great daily driver, its more like a great lease vehicle cuz between the cost of ownership and unreliability which are key things when talking about a daily driver

[@mckou1547]

I think it is ugly. I find the E46 M3 to be the pinnacle.

[@Matt-xx8mt]

It's just so hideous. I can admit that I didn't like the looks of of the F82 when it came out but it's grown into itself. This thing is just horrendous and it's not even just the grills. The headlights are just as offensive. They are like ugly bug eyes. The whole thing is just a disaster.

[@whatsgoodmyguy4391]

I'm sorry love BMW. But that front is butt ugly. Looks like a beaver

[@michaelfulson390]

They still need to fix that nose!

[@DuulHomes]

this is shot horribly.

[@purethinkingful]

2022 BMW M3 come with brand new 1992 TOYOTA Camry style wheels. OMG

[@shahaknagiel2845]

Yeah those 18/19 wheels on the Base model aren't the best... but the upgraded wheels (standard on the Competition) are much nicer.

[@Kenyon712]

Model 3 performance is not faster than comp XDrive. No one buys manuals. That’s why they are disappearing, plus technology makes the autos faster. Ferrari doesn’t sell manuals.

[@shahaknagiel2845]

Driving a manual is about overall engagement and driving fun and involvement, not maximizing 0-60 times... as this video explains very well.

[@Kenyon712]

@@shahaknagiel2845 I understand that, but they are almost gone, primarily because of technology. The greatest sports car makers don’t do manuals anymore.

[@alangil40]

Most people don't buy new manuals as most driving enthusiasts can't afford these cars new, instead they are purchased by wealthier status seeking individuals who are not driving enthusiasts. Then the script completely flips on the second hand market when the average driving enthusiast can afford to buy one and 6-speeds are often the more desirable choice. At least that is what I have observed. I have 5 manual cars currently and a Tesla all bought pre-owned. Also in the real world, 99% of the time, the Model 3P will be faster than the Comp Xdrive M3. I have a Tesla Model S P90D and a couple of BMWs and a 911, but for pure acceleration its not even close because in the real world the Tesla is always ready at any instant, no need to be in the right gear, to need to build revs, etc. So as the video says, you enjoy the manuals and the ICE cars for the driving engagement and road feel.

[@shahaknagiel2845]

@@Kenyon712 They're shrinking, not because of the technology, but because of market forces and choices that manufacturers are making. #savethemanals!

[@crodrc51able]

Ew. Can’t even watch the vid. That thing fell off the fugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. And it needs an LS transplant.

[@utbigpapa]

The front end looks terrible in person

[@Cloxxki]

Shmee150 is already getting rid of his.

[@shahaknagiel2845]

Wow, that's pretty damning that a shrill-sounding, youtube vlogger who generates views by circling through an endless parade of expensive cars decided to retire one.

[@Streamlined955]

Actually, Carwow found the M3 X drive to be faster than the Tesla Model 3 Performance in a drag race. And that was a bone stock M3. There are now all kinds of speed mods coming out for the M3 to make it even faster. The aftermarket for Tesla is zilch.

[@LAX1080]

What is it. It's ugly. really ugly. End of video

[@iliaspaliouras5702]

A really nice and mature presentation, hatts off to the presenter for being analytical respectful and spot on. Enough with some silly ass childish reviews with 0-100 ,drag testing and goofing off that get thousands of views. Car and driver never disappoints

[@CarlosLago]

Thank you!

[@juniorkang]

Hopefully the refresh brings a different grill design

[@shahaknagiel2845]

Great and fair overall analysis. For all those complaining about looks or 0-60 times, you're missing the bigger picture of how rapidly this type of vehicle (manual sports sedan) is evaporating from the market, and that we should be thankful BMW still makes it. When we're all driving single-speed EVs in ten years and bragging about -- how quiet the motors are? how good the autonomous mode is? -- I suspect drivers will look back more fondly on the mechanical texture and engagement that comes with a car like this, warts and all. Between the alternatives of a more raw, unrefined Mustang, a lower spec WRX, or a princely yet less practical GT3, the M3 is really the goldilocks in the market. The CT4-BW is likely the closest real competitor, though even it seems a touch smaller and less refined overall, even if the dynamics are top notch.

[@rlsedition]

The Alfa Giulia QV betters both the Caddy and this BMW in driving feel and competence.

[@shahaknagiel2845]

@@rlsedition Not sure how you measure "competence", but the M3/M4 are faster around the 'Ring and at VIR. And the Giulia melted its brakes last time C/D tested it, which doesn't strike me as particularly competent.

[@rlsedition]

@@shahaknagiel2845 The current BMW M3/M4 are certainly fast, but since I'm not racing or searching for seconds at the 'Ring, that doesn't matter all that much to me. What I do know is that those cars are butt ugly and the Giulia is not. And I've put my money where my mouth is - I drive a Giulia.

[@MrDaveaccord]

Save the manuals!!!!!!!

[@car-lo]

I like this c&d kind of episodes kudos to the presenter, well done mate! Keep 'em coming!

[@Seyeler]

I know it’s so minor but Carlos you’re a saint for the smaller wheel comment. The sport rims on that car make me physically uncomfortable. It makes those rims look like they’re seconds from shattering at any point.

[@shahaknagiel2845]

Yeah that's bordering on sacrilege nowadays

[@sketchpv3080]

And even if the wheel remains intact, the low-profile tire might not.

[@dens6960]

@@sketchpv3080 In a major metro area (NYC in my case), wheel and tire insurance is a must. I opted to get 19' on my M550i and a set on non-runflats. Otherwise in 2-3 years you can go through 5-6 flats and a couple of bent rims..

[@rc54]

I picked up an M4 Comp xDrive convertible a couple of weeks ago. LOVE IT! BMW has fixed a lot of problems with the steering feel and xDrive fixes a lot of other stability issues. Kudos to BMW for this new generation of M3/M4!!

[@K.Rochelle]

I have a 2004 330Ci ZHP…I love my car. Ppl ask to buy it off me all the time.✨

[@SilverScarletSpider]

I wish that the income of wage’s kept up with the annual rate of inflation because at one point the 1995 E36 BMW M3 costed only $35,000. Adjusted for inflation, that M3 would costs around $65,000 in 2022 Money USD. It was only $3,000 more expensive than a contemporary 3 series. And from this year alone from 2021 to 2022 there is currently 8% annual inflation and it is still rising.

[@dens6960]

95 E36 was closer to about 45k ) And that's with Vader manual seats (no lux package) and 5sp. I got mine from the original owner and he kept the sticker.. My 2nd Avus Blue M3 (yes, had two identical) was an auto, and I believe it was also around the same price... Maybe some dealers had deep discounts and prices varied around the US...

[@JacesOwnWorld]

@@dens6960 maybe a fully loaded one, but not the starting point. My 2003.5 E46 M3 was $47k brand new.

[@1stAirwave]

B L A C K W I N G

[@shad3128]

Very well put - driving, was always about.... driving. Nowadays with the tech and media overload on everything people have turned enthusiasm for cars into shopping sheets instead of happiness. If you like to drive something and it makes you smile, youre on the right track 😀

[@AERoVALKYRiE]

ordered last nov, still haven't got it yet

[@lmc333]

The State of this M3 is on point ! I am with you Carlos, as always. I have always enjoyed your reviews and perspectives. Happily keeping my N55 F30 manual as my daily... powerful enough to get me into plenty of trouble with the law...

[@CarlosLago]

More than powerful enough!

[@gigi9467]

And unreliable enough…

[@lmc333]

@@gigi9467 it's unreliable if you don't maintain it... Mine is at 108k miles and ready for another 10 years of service... Just have to care for it if you want it to last... Nothing magic about it.

[@gigi9467]

@@lmc333 thats what bmw owners say what they leave out is that the maintenance is super expensive and that its not the engine or tranny usually that fail is the electronics and everything else believe me i seen it, german car may reach 100k which a japanes car is just barely getting started and its cheaper to maintain.

[@gigi9467]

@@notadoctor2598 not that stupid yo buy them but family has owned many 3 series and great cars until about 50k miles after that electronics start taking a shit and not pass smog on a few of them, i was stupid enough to buy a ford, but thought it would be slightly better than a german but i was wrong lol sticking to japanese Learned my lesson

[@HariOmRadhaKrishna]

That M3 comes in an outstanding colour option. My BMW 3 is a classic grey, in need of a paint job.

[@jonathank4416]

a face only a mother could love

[@geoffstartswithg]

Carlos = 👍🏼

[@esteemedenergy]

I had a 2020 Model 3P. It was fun in the beginning - my first EV and all. It then started to wear on me. Everyone has one it seems. It goes straight great, but that is it. I am not concerned with fuel cost or the environment. If someone does, good for them. I sold it 3 months ago as people are paying insane used car prices for these things, and bought a 2022 M3C. WOW! My drive is now exciting, and taken to a level of fun I could never squeeze out of my Tesla. The sounds, the engagement, the looks. I do not see them everywhere, even in Orange County. I finally enjoy driving again, and love the far better made interior materials, and craftsmanship. Owning the Tesla was like having a mechanical dog, it did a few things great, but without a soul or character, I could not love it.

[@ethanthomas68]

Nice review. Excellent spec - I like the look of smaller rims and “beefy” tire profiles.

[@jjgravante]

Biggest mistake (other than the beaver grille) was not putting the Manual in the Competition

[@DJL78]

Carlos is why I’m here.

[@GalvatronTypeR]

I don’t care what the car journalists claim. The front end is awful. I’ve seen it in person and it hasn’t “grown” on me, whoever at BMW designed it should be drug tested. On a side note, I live in a upper class major metro area where M cars are as common as Toyotas. I see the F80 and F82 previous gen cars all the time. I’ve only seen the G80 and G82 current gen cars three times. People just don’t like this car.

[@DEMediaDrive]

Voting with dollars by not buying. Goofy front end. Will wait or buy the model right before this hideous disaster.

[@23Piccolina]

What is it? Bugs Bunny.

[@mushy1983123]

Your saying that your going to lose a drag race to a ev car with combustion engine 🤷‍♂️ just recently on carwow the M3 xdrive dusted the Tesla model 3 performance even off the line in the drag race

[@Bebopin-69]

Realization is freeing…YESSS, the same can be said about manual vs new-age autos, ok i would be faster in the auto, but so what, i would get to shift, heel-toe, reapply…. In real life thats what it s about , most if not all the time, it s not about laptime

[@FreshlySnipes]

Edit- You can’t get an automatic in the base model. Only manual. *Come on Car & Driver, basic facts*

[@ydmf2]

Good review. Please consider removing background music. 🙏

[@gregalanbell]

That is the ugliest bimmer I've ever seen. I didn't even watch the whole video. I stopped it after only 15 seconds, when I saw the front end. Ok BMW, I'll only say this once. JUST BECAUSE your very special "dude" with very good taste went and got a job at KIA, does mean that you have to make your cars look like a Hyundai. Ewwww, BUMMER BIMMER

[@sabresys45]

This is the old argument...."it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow argument", said all dudes with slow cars lol.

[@puravida5683]

The car for you. If you like an inflated price, poor reliability, plenty of plastic and cookie cutter universal brand interior.

[@Twobarpsi]

Never buy a BMW. The worst German car manufacturer.

[@Sithene]

if you're going to go with a German car, do it right and go with Porsche. They're leagues above BMW

[@PHFilms3]

Man this guy needs some better shoes lol.. who drives an m3 on track with those on? Slight troll Carlos…

[@viasevenvai]

2 ads before he's stopped talking about models or competitors. Jesus youtube has been ruined.

[@VictorEstrada]

Who got those tires for you guys? That guy should be fired

[@diybatterypower]

Great video 👍🏻

[@verde629]

I think 2022 is the sweet spot for the M3. Xdrive and without the new screen

[@verde629]

I actually love it now lol. Something I thought I never would say

[@razrramon2256]

Love the fat tyres

[@Brabus8297]

e46 m3 is like 100000000000000x better looking than this ugly thing

Been driving my cars since I purchased my 1996 Estoril blue E36 M3!...I can't get over the front end of the current M3/M4🤕. Ps. I want an M5 CS. Ps. Definitely buying the new GR Corolla.

[@ufo80ufo2]

что за диски на ней ?)))

[@grizzlytomemi9043]

I love high profile tires 🔥🔥🔥

[@_hashtag]

I could care less if a Dyson beats me

[@MakhinaMametja-kl4ch]

How much the BMW m3 AmG

[@MyWatchTherapy]

Great review. I am ordering the same car and was considering the optional rims, but now I am convinced to get what I am already paying for- the standard rims and tires. Like he said, I like more of that sidewall and this more "black." Makes the car look meaner I think!

[@Shmodizz]

It’s still just so disgusting

[@InvestBetter.]

10:50. No one should be buying manual transmission cars for lap times or speed. They exist for only one reason. Enjoyment. You want to have a more than a business relationship with your car