The State Of Trials & My Future In Destiny...

[@motechamp]

Can't wait to see another version of this in 6-9 months....

[@scottparrott5674]

Nah this time is different. They shut trials down when it reached 50k weekly before and it’s at 63 this weekend. Unless they do something I’d say trials won’t even be a thing by then.

[@PrototypePlatform]

​@@scottparrott5674 this is no different. bruh.

[@lightokamii]

If people are still playing Trials in that long I’d be shocked. Literally played the same team 8 times in a row the other day, ridiculous.

[@scottparrott5674]

@@lightokamii Yeah it’s dead. Was on the best map with the best gun in the loot pool too. I mean it’s just boring, PvP gets no content so there’s no casuals left. The numbers are extremely close to when they shut it down before so I wouldn’t be suprised if trials gets axed soon.

[@Kiiiyoshiii]

Funny coming back to those to see how numbers are continuously dropping lol

[@KapalAsin]

here's my poorly attempt of the video summary: Trials sucked, thus uploads less often. Sets goal to reach 5k flawless trials and then take a break from destiny 2. Hopefully comes back fresh

[@EzioZ]

🐐

[@majora919]

He does this shit every year

[@jeffmeyer6820]

Not a "break from destiny" a break from trials until the next season...

[@kothar0430]

Decade chain smokers have had an easier time kicking a habbit.

[@pikapro951]

surely one day he will realize d2 pvp aint it anymore and move to another game

[@77nebula]

You're stuck eternal. You can never quit, you depend on Destiny.

[@Reaperliam-zi4zp]

bro ._. you make the same video every single season

[@thereyking9571]

bro feeling sad, coz he can not end the run for the other average players who wants to be flawless. now he is obligated to face the same skill players like him. welcome to the real world lol.

[@xCSORx]

oh this again

[@dxiong014]

😂

[@jamescameron9133]

Yeah, because it never gets fixed

[@KiiDSarajevo]

@@jamescameron9133 Well, tell Jake to fix himself.

[@Testogan]

Ppl are burnout of Jakes videos burnout 😂

[@goosetattoo1010]

Literally what I was thinking

[@brentbonham9427]

We were three stacking last weekend, and we faced the same team three times in a row.

[@MasonJF19]

That's me every weekend with the same people over and over

[@OsoViolent]

I vsed the same 2stack 6 games in a row and I’m a 1.5 the 2 stack was 3kd 2.8k flawless like bruh this game is dead af

[@manuelezz1]

Same I made it to 250 points away from the comp emblem got same team 5 games Ina row. Lost all 5, waited after every game even went to the tower once and still matched them

[@Pluto_nine]

Game gets pretty boring if you consistently play with the same opposing team whether it be casual or ranked, I typically find the same handful of people no matter what playlist I choose even if I jump into pve. New content barely lasts an hour with minimal to chase. Ingame lfg is like kwtd...just get rid of that mindset and teach the people then it might actually bring in more players or even help the ones struggling. I believe a huge part is the community driving away potential new players. But honestly raids have nothing for me to chase nor does the content they release it's just a rinse and repeat year after year.

[@jfern0927]

Honestly its sad but same happened to me, just we felt bad because the other team of 3 was very very and i mean very bad. Sure we went flawless but this was never a regular issue as it is now.

[@mojomanmurph1925]

I tried to play Trials but get curb stomped not to mention the toxic messages I get for "being a horrible player", "to quit Destiny", "a loser", "squid", "blueberry", etc. I'm sure I'm not the only player who has encountered this. I enjoy watching Jake, Frost, and others play but have no motivation to step into Trials. Add that the cheaters run rampant in PvP only adds to the player base abandoning the game. I will continue to watch but fully understand if they have to close down shop for good. Good Luck, wish you the best Jake.

[@MyCupOfTea101]

I've felt the same. Just decided to take a break from gaming to focus on IRL stuff going on. PvP & Gambit have rough. The toxic messages make it worse as well.

[@SaucexGaming]

Literally got told I was trash from the losing team in comp last night idk why I know im not good but if losing didn’t matter why message me directly after losing

[@Armzed1]

Same here bro,was doing a trials card and the dude who died more than me and kept running off,leaving me in a 1 v 3 situation,told me to delete destiny while we were on the second round. I try and think ,why would someone do that mid game,if anything it makes the situation worse and seals our fate. Then i realise that im dealing with a child,or a grown child,these are sad people,with no sense of comradery or honour! its ok,they need to somehow lash out and project their nasty feelings towards complete strangers,knowing that there is no repercussion...tells you something about them. Switch off your in game chat,make your PS messages friends only,your life will get better 👍 Do not engage these losers,they will try and get you to say something nasty and then report you,try and get you banned,these are spineless individuals,young amd old ,you know the type. Respect🙏

[@soundsaboutrightno8924]

@@Armzed1 its a sad state of gaming in general. the sore winner mentality is so confusing to me. sore loser is just as bad but the former just confuses my brain

[@Armzed1]

@@soundsaboutrightno8924 yeah,its a childish mentality,there is no age for this kind of behaviour....its just cowardice,weasely,rat behaviour....you get these types all over the place,not just online,just learn how to dodge them,ignore or block them if its online....nothing much else we can do. The hardest thing is,trying to learn not to let it live rent free in your head,thats the part where if you cant control it,then they win. 🙏

[@Marco-ii1sn]

Bro, how many of these videos do you make a year?? I swear I feel like I've seen this exact same conversation at least 3 times this year

[@adambarnes4191]

It's all about the money my guy. Gotta pay for that move to Europe.

[@w4lknde4d25]

@@adambarnes4191why he movin to europe?

[@JLM7646]

Well it's because the game gets worse and worse and really he can't lie and say it's good. The game is done. Jake knows it and he is buying time to set up his next move. Is Jake this good at any other games? Let's hope so, because Destiny 2 is almost dead.

[@DiguisedDog]

@@JLM7646 I understand his concern, but let's be real dude had a good run. He made a crapload of money off of streaming this game. Putting all your eggs in one basket is never smart.

[@ProjGhost]

Now you know how most of the player population felt when we did play. Just trying to get 1 flawless a week was a goal. Now we are gone, have been gone. Your fault

[@cowwithbling1274]

You’re blaming good players for playing the game, it’s not our fault. You stopped playing because you’re bad, bungie have tried to make it easy to get at least one flawless a week for most players with the passage of mercy, and you can get adept weapons with the passage of persistence. Don’t blame the players for playing the game, bungie should do more to revive trials, but they can’t magically make you win 7 games in a row.

[@liverxtality-343]

​@@cowwithbling1274 I agree with this big time. I've long retired from D2 PvP and moved on to games like COD and Fortnite but the fact that people to this day STILL struggle to get 1 flawless or at least 1 adept gun is probably one of the biggest skill issues I've ever seen. Yes, there's obviously broken mechanics/gear in the game but it still doesn't change the fact that they pretty much give it to you for free at this point by providing 2 mercies or having a broken card with 7 wins you can trade in for it. Either way PvP is still rancid, and Trials is still one of the most flawed game modes that people still somehow struggle in despite the updates making it 90x easier than it was like 4 seasons ago.

[@cowwithbling1274]

@@liverxtality-343 Glad someone agrees 🙏. You’re right the meta and broken guns makes it unplayable at times, I’ve played the last couple weeks of trials after taking a few months break and it’s all the same guns and abilities. It’s so toxic and sweaty at the moment.

[@aidenrevetta4805]

​@cowwithbling1274 without a doubt. Bungie has made going flawless the easiest it has ever been in the franchise. The Ferocity card your first 3 wins are always locked in even after a loss is the easiest card imo. You focus on getting 3 wins, and after that you only ever have to get 4 wins in a row. After that you can farm the adept, which you can't do with the Persistence card

[@benwestgate515]

My experience on perseverance card win one lose one and repeat can’t even get to 7 wins lol

[@scoty_does]

Preach! Same here.

[@dragonFLAME337]

Same here most of the time

[@klubbs617]

I used to only do mercy, but switched to persistence a few weeks ago. I've had the same happen. Barely go on win streaks. I heard matchmaking is card based, so it's probably cuz of that

[@Nero7441]

That card is the worst thing design-wise.

[@bray4883]

Ferocity card >

[@chrisr2664]

To me the great thing about Destiny has been teaming up with friends and playing chatting, having fun together and I used to be able to do that with Trials, was a long time ago now as like Jake says playing in a stack is so super sweaty it's crazy, no fun. The long range pulse, scout meta is a bit boring as well a lot of players just sitting back and plinking away. I'm not sure what the solution is, it has to be rewarding but I think the key is to somehow get people playing together again.

[@buffhorses3632]

The game is dead brothers. Not even saying this to be toxic. People have been burnt for so long the patience is gone. I hope for the pvp players sake that bungie does something to help yall out but I dont really have any faith in them anymore.

[@stevenbanks1548]

Honestly the final shape was a great place to stop.

[@daos20000]

@@stevenbanks1548yup … I wish the game ended after it … like continuing this game into Apollo is not needed whatsoever

[@riothegod1831]

600k a day. How is it dead? Are you dumb?

[@Iron_Born_LLC]

Oh no!!😱 whatever shall we do?!?!? The random guy on KZbin says it’s over!😭 I guess we just give up and go around and make pointless comments letting everyone else know destiny is dead.

[@ItsDonBro]

​@@Iron_Born_LLCso you've never ever reiterated anything you've ever heard before in your life? You must also never use the same word twice when writing essays. Fuck you bro. We can complain

[@RomeFlash]

I fully support this choice. This is what everyone should be doing honestly speaking.

[@WizzLock117]

Here's my take on this, when I play PvP on Destiny, I never take it seriously, I just run whatever I run and am comfortable with, meta or not and most of the times I would use the most dog water weapons out of boredom and I always come across people who abuses the meta and it really ticks me off and think about why do people really take a 7 year old nearly dead game seriously

[@C1eann_n]

i mean they wanna win who wouldn't want to win i mostly lose cause my teammates use straight up bull weapons

[@Sinnux_]

ur part of the problem lmao

[@C1eann_n]

@@Sinnux_ lol fr

[@Richieman2032]

Hey Jake, I completely understand. I've never played much Trials, but I've enjoyed watching you for years. You put so much time into Destiny and deserve to take some time off after the 5k goal. Wishing you luck!

[@Shikyo_Destiny]

I quit destiny 2, population is too low and I loved trials, 300 flawlesses and a 1.5 general, but the games dead and I feel a lot better not playing it

[@jamiecsala8449]

But your still watching destiny 2 videos? Lol

[@Shikyo_Destiny]

@jamiecsala8449 the topic of the video felt like something I could add my input too, if you don't mind, if you do mind, go away, actual dumbass 😂

[@Sp3ttro]

Jake I want to thank you, after a couple of years watching you and learning from your content I was finally able to go solo flawless. I won't lie I cried because I have tried for years and finally got it, if it wasn't for your content and coaching video and you answering my random questions in stream I don't think I would have gotten it. If anyone deserves a break it is you. Good luck on the way to 5000 flawless and my the pigeons forever favor saints strongest trials player.

[@Batdude]

My goal was to get better at pvp overall and I’m proud to say I’ve gotten really good at pvp especially since watching you play. After 5k flawlesses you deserve a break.

[@richardbuffolino9384]

This might trigger alot of people but adding adept weapon drops at like 3,5 and 7 win streak would bring in more players that tend to avoid trials and pvp in general. But that would also mean a new reward for full flawless to be worth it.

[@Ascent9]

Honestly they just need to give adepts even for losses at this point. If you aren't winning in trials you don't even get normal drops so you get nearly no loot for your time. The time investment for trials even if you are winning all of your games is pretty long let alone if you are losing games.

[@FeverSensei]

With the time investment per game vs how fast gms are now that sounds like a good and needed change, trials is ultimately a playlist for loot nowadays not some alt comp mode like how some PvP players see it and making it more worth for players to just hop in and play a few games for adepts would be a lot healthier then the current system

[@Le-Nova-]

rather than full on adepts, make trials weapons craftable and give out red borders at those points. This makes it so flawless is still somewhat worth.

[@PennytheWiseVids]

Kind of agree. Was playing on a persistence card, and doesn't matter how persistent you are, if you can't get off of one win you're not getting that adept regardless of the card.

[@jfern0927]

Didnt they already make adept weapons easier to get now? Im not up to date with the changes/updates

[@SuperMikeAttack]

"not scripted" = reading it off a screen to the side. Also, how many times are you going to make this video?

[@Valadi14]

Jake that was a nice check in for your viewers. If I don’t win a carry to the lighthouse may we meet in trials and I’ll ask for a hug there. Best of luck on the road to 5000, you got this brother!!

[@PrototypePlatform]

i used to carry people in trials in D1. i have never gone flawless in D2. and i've played since launch. D2 is a different breed. and requires a lot of teamwork and communication in trials. something it's dearly missing.

[@AnthonyMolinary]

There’s absolutely no need for these videos it’s like his 3rd one , just leave it be and take a break and play something else or enjoy the air outside , I took a 5 month break and missed all of up to episode 1 and episode 2 , came back and it lasted a few weeks. Game is just stale asf , wasn’t even hyped about prison tomb elders skolas returns maybe update coming next week. Take the time Jake , let it be , not worth explaining yourself to to a company who’s been neglecting the player base for a longgggg time.

[@KiiDSarajevo]

Trying to recoup that 100k through "my future in Trials videos" is dastardly.

[@dengue1981]

How many times you going to make this video?

[@OddSanity]

Dude, you deserve to be proud man. Forget everyone’s negativity. That’s a dope goal that not everyone can even remotely get close to accomplishing. You deserve to have a life too man. Thank you for all the great content

[@adambarnes4191]

The hand gestures when he knows Stonewall is recording are wild. Man looks like he's conducting an orchestra. Still waiting on the variety content from that video 8 months ago.

[@ukulaleb4160]

The variety is this video getting spaced between 3 month periods lol

[@reesewallace5448]

Think we just did this right?

[@mostrodemare]

in addition to the small amount of players, the real problem of the trials is the matchmaking, how is it possible to have three golden flawless x12 against you and 2 stellar pastry chefs with you? you find yourself in the titan team with the Loreley helmet or with the Sinto, sometimes I understand those who, exasperated, send private messages, no one should forbid anything, but doing a bit of practice in Crucible before venturing into the trials is recommended.

[@clayton50]

I used to play trials often and enjoyed it. Now I cant even play trials because the solo, duo, and trio matchmaking is horrible. I have a 0.98 KD and Im being matched against 3.0 KD players. Its awful.

[@juiceboxhero3250]

That’s by design. There’s no skill based matchmaking in Trials. So there’s nothing keeping a 10 K/D player from getting into your lobby.

[@Recks37]

Don’t apologise, that’s just the state of the game at the moment. Always enjoy watching your vids no matter the cadence.

[@SilverSurfer17]

I have 5500 hrs in the game. I was truly addicted to the game. I haven’t played since the first season. PvP is just so uninteresting to me now. I’m always mad/annoyed. I’m over it, I’d rather enjoy my life than feel like I have to sink in a bunch of hours.

[@JRyan-OSO]

I’ve faced you a few times, both with and against, and I’ve got nothing but respect for what you do for D2. On a much smaller scale I’ve led my clan Fireteam Phalanx to the Lighthouse and I 100% think that D2 is no longer a game where 3 friends can load up and play, I can empathize with your results trying to carry folks. I’ll be rooting for you hitting 5k, nothing wrong with setting a personal goal to help you stay motivated and hungry.

[@MisterHabadu]

As an Asia Server player, playing trials every weekend is like pushing a boulder through a mountain. 1. Cheaters.... Soooo many cheaters are in Asia Server, if you think cheaters on America Servers are sometimes rare in Asia Servers they're rampant. (Ximmers are also included in this) 2. Snap Cancel, I hate this fucking movement tech on Warlocks so much. If you like this and you hate me for wanting this removed then give the Titans back their unlimited Shield Bash, Seismic Strike or Hammer Strike Then we'll talk. This single tech alone has been in the game for atleast a year now, Bungie needs to adress this and fix this stupid movement tech that looks stupid in your POV (People who fought a Snap-Cancelling Warlock knows what I'm talking about) 3. Fusion Rifles should be committed. So what do I mean by that? Basically if you hit your left click it should charge to full not like you can decharge it. Fusion Rifles especially Glacioclasm that has been sunbathing since 2022. Shotguns, Snipers, Traces, all guns once you left click a bullet comes out. Fusions should also be committed. (I use fusions too so I have the rights to say this) 4. Ass Matchmaking. The fact that you get matched to the same fucking fireteam for 3 times in a row shouldn't Happen in Trials, especially if you're in a duo or three-stack. Whether if your enemy team is the one who stomped you or vice verca, either way this shit shouldn't even happen. If you disagree to the bullet points I have in my comment, reply and we'll have a healthy discussion/argument about it.

[@j64]

Hey Man, congratulations on 5K!

[@c4yourself319]

I just want to see you win 1v3s again. I think thats all anyone on youtube is hungry for, those 1v3 matches. Hopefully that isn't stressful because it doesn't require flawless or anything. Love the vids!!

[@klubbs617]

Whats up with engrams? I do 6 comp and prob another 10 trials matches a week. I can barely focus 2 comp weapons and I have zero trials engrams

[@notsogreatone075]

Grenada to Jake talking about not being able to win matches at a severe disadvantage. What I hear: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA😭😭😭

[@tomakai3460]

5:48 Duos being removed???

[@soil23]

Cant wait until February and i hope you get your 5000!

[@gabrielgardner2054]

Hey Jake I’m rooting for you man. I know this game hasn’t been the same lately, taking a break is okay and if you wanna stream/play another game and make content for it I’ll probably watch cuz you’re entertaining I envy your ability to not get so angry after losses in trials lol

[@Harmonix05]

I’ve been solo flawless a bunch and gone in duos and trios a couple times. And I’ve played a lot of weekends where I didn’t even go flawless, but I have to say. This was the sweatiest most insane weekend of trials I’ve ever played by a million miles.

[@ravanelij]

I lose my motivation on the game. Couple months ago I missed my streak going flawless for 147 weeks. Nothing crazy I just try to go flawless at least one time every weekend. Life and work just happens and I lost my streak. After that my love for Destiny wasn’t the same anymore, still playing but never again with the same enthusiasm like months or years ago. I believed my streak is the longest on all destiny

[@sonicshyper]

I understand how your feeling about Destiny 2, I feel the same way as well, hope D2 PvP bounce back strong this year or next year, best of luck to all D2 players and streamers ❤

[@haydencox8006]

almost kinda wish they removed trials not to piss people off but to really go and revamp rework and redraw trials to be more fun for both they have tried and strived so much to add content but all it has been in weapons and armor and nothing actually new whatsoever the list is big so many sbmm changes anti cheat just not working and underpaid loot rehashing stat changes that people exaggerate so heavily on reputation changes that just don’t fit normal standards because souls syndrome mfs just ruining what some people would like to change to actually enjoy it for once scammed LFGs network issues TLDR the list is really effing long i predicted by the time final shape released i already knew how this was gonna play out and i didn’t use the same prediction cycle this time either i spreaded out to see new possibilities in this mode and nothing special happened at all not even a mode change or anything even fun all this sucked out was replayability and that’s it the devs don’t just hate money but they don’t wanna invest in fan time anymore just what they want transparency is clearly at a all time low these events have really damaged enjoyment and i’m surprised people just don’t even go play halo if they hate destiny pvp that much or just any other game to go play when a mode is in mediocrity sweats will take advantage of that and that’s what kills it off and what it’s worth even is these wildcards have really taken this game down the bin and has been a bummer that i only destiny 3 could really save us or heck even the effing mobile game could do what bungie can’t do because they think it’s out of there reach one day we will just purely play destiny rising and bungie will turn to that probably somewhere down the line

[@shavage8437]

Keep on keeping on Jake and slay the run to 5k. You have always been great to your followers and put out fun content. I quit playing this year, and it was hard as i have been hete s8nce D1 Day. But between the fomo, repetitive grind, and them making it even more harder for a solo que giy in PvE i burnt out. Will continue to watch your content 💯

[@JtsTubes]

I feel ya brother. Pvp used to carry me through the pve content lulls but I haven't been playing for many seasons. Really since they sent the devs to marathon. They've shown that they don't care if the playlist dies. Basically gambit now.

[@hawaiianmango4556]

Yes you best take a break, all that sitting on your ass must be so tough…

[@V3n0m7_84]

Just a question...What are the "GOOFY STUFF" he says he was using while others using meta?

[@jakkett1035]

Has anyone in this community tried playing more than one game? Of course its gonna feel repetitive if you're playing it every day. Take a break y'all its not that hard

[@ThataGhost66]

I tried to do trials on Friday. First match was against a sweaty duo while me and my team were just bad. I'll admit I'm bad on pvp, and I can get frustrated(Though my nephew talks smack to everyone when things don't go his way). But seeing just sweaty players taking over pvp in destiny 2 just kills the fun, especially casual game modes in crucible. So now I decided to just play crucible when there are challenges for pinnacle or power gear to increase my guardians light level. Crucible imo needs an entire rework with the loot pool, the matchmaking, and an entirely new system that will make it fun for everyone.

[@MADOYS]

The result of not adding solo matchmaking playlist. Hope the short-term win was worth it over a long term sustain for you.

[@errøsplz]

if you solo queue you match other solo players, sometimes a 2v2 but barely

[@MADOYS]

@@errøsplz yea and those moments happen way too much. It's just beyond frustrating getting a duo with 2 ret--rds against 2 meta sweats.

[@matthewpowell8557]

They just need to treat trials like they do with GMs. If I get platinum in a GM then I am guaranteed an adept, but if I don’t get platinum then it’s not guaranteed. Same thing should apply for trials, going flawless guarantees an adept but you still have a chance of getting one if you maybe get 7 total wins on the card. The lighthouse should be more of a cosmetic thing at this point if they want a chance of bringing more players back.

[@dustinj11977]

they have a card for that (and if i remember correctly it doesnt count losses anymore).

[@Iron_Born_LLC]

I’ve played Destiny since the very beginning and never stepped foot into trials or competitive since last year and have had plenty of other things to do in the game that have kept me busy without even having to think about PvP. It’s just one small fraction of the games content that pops up on weekends. Don’t get down on yourself if it’s just too much right now PvP alone is something that you have to dedicate a lot of time and patience into to get good at. Most players in PvP that’s literally all they do and have no clue how to play any other parts of the game so don’t feel bad that you’re killed a lot.

[@xdylanwx]

I don't wanna play trials and get my head kicked in every game, it's not fun.

[@pyr0lyZer]

I have way fewer flawlesses than Jake, but I suppose his point about the population is what makes playing trials not so much fun. Let’s face it…losing is not fun, regardless of how much someone tries to tell themselves otherwise. If you play 50 games and lose 30 or 40 of them, its not going to be “fun” no matter who you are. Either way, as a 1.2 lifetime, even with low population, the game consistently puts the players on my team who are evem worse than me. So much more than the population, I will always believe that there is a problem with Bungie’s matchmaking algorithms. I have the same experience in Comp where the game thinks I can carry 2 players. That also contributes (for me) having zero fun. Trials and crucible is dead for now and I am not sure Bungie can save it. 10+ years of Destiny and it may be that people are just moving on, never to return

[@nerothelost9605]

Tried to play last night. Very bad for average players. 😢

[@frommyhighhorse]

unplayable for me for months now

[@nerothelost9605]

@@frommyhighhorseit simply makes no sense. I asked myself why I was doing this to myself amd went to bed lol.

[@fotis3v480]

Average players put on. A fusion a cheese kills even vs 2.5s mate. I don't get what's the issue considering you have access to something that would be banned in 90% of fps games.

[@SilliestGanker]

@@fotis3v480 wrd theres 1kds out there with like 400 flawless ppl need to stop complaining that everything isnt handed to them

[@ianmills6260]

Im a 1.5 and it still sucks ass. The skill creep has gotten so bad.

[@i3deal]

Stay strong, my dude.

[@UnpopularOpinion42]

That break is going to do you good!

[@Silentmike88]

Reach that goal brotha ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

[@pincushiontimmy]

They made so many positive changes recently. They really put in a lot of the stuff we've been asking for for years. But 10 years in is too late to start implementing this stuff. Too many people left. I un-installed before act 3 of the first season this year, and I've never been happier. This game didn't deserve to die like this. Its fans deserved better. Oh well.

[@chefpunjab]

Awesome man. Love the game more and more... and played for 4 hrs after work last night. The comments are crazy.. for every person saying the game is dead just know those people are the ones who play every game that comes out because they follow everyone else... They say destiny is dead....and go play call of duty to goooooo camo grind??? Funny stuff.. Love your content and ive learned a lot from ya....Peace bro

[@sonicXtreme12]

As someone who loved Destiny for most of the entire 10 year lifespan, I have been taking a long break as of a few months ago. Been enjoying other games or things to do with my time. As a top 500 trials player, PvP was my favorite aspect of the game, but now with the population being as low as it is, it is so hard to enjoy going flawless since I have to play the solo lottery matchmaking pool and there’s not enough people online to make a team. So it made sense to take a break from the game. This game I believe has run its course, as someone who was in denial for so long about it, I think it’s time to let the game go. I hope Bungie maybe does something to bring the player base back to the game, but I don’t think they will. And for that, I will not be playing Destiny anymore.

[@zackward5516]

Jake you should be proud man of 5000 flawless that’s a lot of weekends you are not spending time with your family. Get to 5 k and take a well deserved break. I have been watching you since D1 . Have a great day brother .

[@90sWasBetter]

This actually makes him sound like a sad pathetic human lol you did him no favours here

[@russdavis71]

I’m happy that you’re getting closer to your goal and I hope it happens before the end of the year. Bungie needs to make an extreme change in Trials to get the community interested again. However to look at things through a lens of realism the game is and has been in a downward spiral for over a year now that I don’t think Bungie can correct. A CEO that the community doesn’t like or respect as well as decisions that killed the game for a lot of players that have no intention of returning to the game. Good luck on the 5000 flawless trail.

[@mreasyclap]

Don't always agree with your takes but this is super accurate about the state of trials and pvp as a whole

[@Ottydova]

Gg Jake, enjoy your life!

[@zerouno15]

I dont want to only play against good players, the cannon fodder is gone so I quit - Jake every few months. Surs & Buincey say hello btw

[@Forever_weird]

Just have fun man if you aren’t having fun people won’t enjoy the content, so the first thing you need to focus on is you enjoying making your own content

[@ludokai2691]

Expected this and I'm okay with this. Over the last year it's gotten far harder to watch Jake. The excuses, the "wah-wah" mentality he has at times. Take a step back. It'll help.

[@richardbell1427]

Yeah it sounds like its break time. Im also taking a break since the start of the episode and might start again during the next act OR episode depending on if bungie actually makes some big changes.

[@UnsafeCoyote]

I used to play trials....used to enjoy trials....but at some point last year it became insufferable. Got more and more toxic and metas more annoying. I stopped playing trials completely because every session was absolutely miserable which was not the case before. This probably applies to most other people too. The most fun point recently was the first weekend Immortal was up for grabs....then back to shit after.

[@Webbzy]

The 5k flawless should be a massive auction on the channel

[@QuantumSigns]

from the screen to the ring to the pen to the king ⚔

[@peterterpstra4737]

Honestly i would just love to watch you play full cards. If you edit out your time in orbit and maybe show the roll of the adept weapon you get out of the lighthouse chest id be more than happy to grab some popcorn

[@awesomeingsauce]

10 years is a good run for a live service game. Not every game can be WoW or Final Fantasy. It’s been a good run. Once I killed the witness in the final mission/raid, it felt final. Destiny will always be one of the best games of all time, I think we just need a rest.

[@Fighting_irish493]

If you want players back in trials this is How you do it you make it so that passage of persistence just gives you an adept weapon if you play 7 games win or lose that’s how you bring players back it’s too hard to get 2 wins in a row against Stacked teams especially if your a solo player

[@Skm00n]

just get the normal weapon if you're not good enough. Adepts are a flex means more than anything. Especially now since there's almost 0 difference between adepts and normal. The new mods give more total stats than the adept ones. Why are people that never play pvp so insistent on getting the adept version when they can the normal version. What should change is the reward based rep gain and rewards. Reputation should be given amply for finishing a game. Also the reputation system should be changed. It should be a fix amount instead of increasing in the higher levels for the same amount of rewards. That way trials engrams are easily farmable now. Flawless should be more prestigious with special ornaments and adepts should get a little bit of a rework to actually be worth it. Maybe a special cosmetic thing like

[@SilliestGanker]

pvp isnt for you then

[@Fighting_irish493]

@@SilliestGanker no I like Regular PVP it’s chill but trials unless you have been flawless a bunch of time it really isn’t welcoming to new players I’ve also revived very hatful messages as well telling me to get out of the game mode how do you expect new light to come in and feel welcome I’ve been playing destiny since destiny 1 I’ve been around the block I’m much more of a PVE player but new lights dude if an enfranchise player who has been playing the game for a decade feels he doesn’t stand a chance how do you think new players are gonna feel playing this game mode for the first time I’d really like to hear your answer

[@adxmartistic5974]

Brother I stopped playing after playing for 9 years straight. Honest speaking. This doesn't make me wanna go "DAMN I NEED TO REINSTALL". I think the game's time has come sadly. I loved it. But nothing can convince me to go back now. Because there will be another "the end of destiny" to come and I cba for it

[@retiredboi3175]

Honestly stupid idea, adepts should only drop for flawless. But…. They need to give it the rise of iron treatment, NEWWWW WEAPONS, badge of them, NEW ARMOR, cool looking + ornaments for flawless runs, and take the flag mechanic out while trying to make the neutral game as fair as possible. One thing to do is reduce speed cause shit happens so fast as opposed to d1

[@AznSlickSlaya]

Much respect to you sir!

[@robertreyes6994]

Just imagine how the rest of the community feels I know my opinion may not matter, it’s not about the game being dead. It’s more about people using cheats and products that reduce flinch and all this other stuff on console and PC and make match harder for people who just wanna enjoy the game you can’t get more player based to get on the game when there’s these constant issues on the PVP side

[@evolutiongamingandautomoti6798]

Didn’t Bungie state that they added loss protection for solos matched against teams? Meaning there is in fact not separate solo/duo and trio playlists to have “one full of sweats”? Ultimately it’s the nature of a competitive pvp mode that requires good performance in order to get the desired rewards. People who are capable of reaching the goal continue to play, while those who can’t don’t, they aren’t going to just sit around being food for the tryhards. Personally I say bring back the D1 “win based” matchmaking, so in order to go flawless you need to prove yourself to others on their flawless game. Make flawless actually mean something again, instead of being treated as an “entitlement”. I say go one step further and make two distinct playlists, trios for teams, and lone wolf for solos, ditch duos altogether. Either go in as a team, or tackle matchmaking solo and prove legitimate skill by going flawless. Solo flawless emblem would clearl distinguish true skill from carries. Bungie will never do it because there are far too many fragile egos, but those are my thoughts on bringing back the significance of the mode.

[@woodywoodman4309]

They need a select playlist that is 3 vs 3 trials but every game your weapons are randomized

[@francishollcraft7148]

To help the playerbase, they should make a ticket that doesn't get you to the lighthouse. Instead, once you've played seven games it lets you focus the ticket to grind games for a specific Trials weapon with a high drop rate. And with a chance of dropping the weapon with a second perk slot on wins. Ironically, its not hard to get weapon drops anyway or to just focus weapons with Saint. But I wonder if this would generate interest since it would be a more direct line to: Play the games=reach the goal=get the reward.

[@OsoViolent]

No

[@francishollcraft7148]

@OsoViolent You make a compelling point, but have you considered this... Yes.

[@JayMcB]

I’ve been doing this for a year or two

[@OsoViolent]

@@francishollcraft7148 if you can’t get flawless with a card that only takes a win if you lose or with 2 mercy’s you don’t deserve a adept drop this game has catered to noobs this whole year and all it has done is put Jim’s on my team in duo q against 3 stacks and they get protection but I don’t??? .01 kds against 3kds shouldn’t happen but bungie do anything to keep retards happy

[@Godstone93]

Ive just come back after 9 mouths on destiny

[@scottparrott5674]

Yeah just 64 thousand this weekend for trials and it’s the best weapon on the best map. They shut it down when it reached 50 thousand weekly before, so it’s getting dangerously close.

[@manuelezz1]

I play the same 12 people in comp literally all day. I’m 1000 points from getting the emblem but keep getting the same 12 players all day. It gets to the point where I’ll fly to the tower then back to match making just to get the same people. The player base is too low for sbmm to work properly. They just need to open it up for the whole community at this point it take 5 mins to 10 mins to find a match just to match someone from another country because the game is trying to find players at your skill set

[@donogoodatgames]

Sorry Jake, i tried to be the 1000th like, you'll get to 10x that in no time though 👍

[@aegis-vii3071]

I just came back for a little bit, I’m a 1.5, 2kd at my best season, and it was very hard to win matches, so I thought I was crazy because I was like damn I used to get 10 flawless a week but I agree it’s just dead

[@nyoin2028]

I'm playing games from 2005 with higher player numbers. Anytime i try to come back, the game still feels the same. Idk if im still burnt out or what. But been gone since witch(season) that should be long enough..

[@ericbaek3706]

for pvp, i'm not good. When they said they will change trials, i was excited. Maybe i can get an adept trials weapon by just playing. Now looking at what they did, a card doesn't say, "when you lose the match, you lose the win record." No where does it say you can play 7 games and get a free adept from saint - 14. I know the meta changes but not once did i think that i would like to actually try and win. I just played some games and for some reason, the trials engram didn't pop up. This happenned for the second season and why i didn't even attempt to go flawless. I also know they said, when you win 7 games, you get the adept you already got. But, it has to be in the loot pool. So far the team mates i play with just tell me that i'm bad or i should go to pve. They don't realize that's how you lose players in pvp. I'm literally not gonna play trials ever if people just trash talk me. I'm doing for the pinnacle and the loot i don't have. Okay, done ranting. The reason i'm doing it is so i can get a pve role for the new guns i don't have and compare it with the guns i already have.

[@davidb3425]

I stopped after i finished the final shape. Game is not even installed on my xbox, feels good most of the time but i miss the crucible sometimes.. just not enough to reinstall.

[@guillermopacheco5005]

I’ve never done Trials , I don’t want to be exposed to the toxicity

[@The_Reaper101]

It’s sweet don’t trust me

[@guillermopacheco5005]

@ sweet as a hole in the head lol

[@tayloranderson8018]

I took a break for like 2-3 months and before that break I was a top 15-10 percent pvp player. I could go flawless occasionally with difficulty but enjoyed it. Now it’s just too sweaty. I’m glad people enjoy it but I do wish more people could play and enjoy it. Even when I lost I used to enjoy it cause I could still get a few kills. At 26 I’m bout ready to hang up my hat in competitive pvp. Back in the day of mw1 and 2 it was always about fun and that’s all I want gaming to be about anymore for me. Not looking to be the best. I already can’t play COD anymore so Destiny is all I have.

[@carlohernadez6829]

I started playing Destiny around the 30th aniversary and tbh the game has improved in many aspects ever since, however the comunity at large was in a negativity that end up killing the game. This is the game that was killed by its comunity negativity. Reminds of those videos "Destiny Killler(?)...

[@haydencooper5911]

Jake download snow runner grab a drink and just drive a truck. It’s such a nice change of pace 😂

[@ALEXACEDEATH]

The past few weeks, playing trials has been literally hell. I’m usually capable enough to get my flawless in one go, but when the hand cannon was the drop, I felt it, I managed to go flawless but man was it hard. With the rocket I gave it my best shot, but I literally couldn’t get past 2 wins no matter how hard I tried. And last week? I went into duos to help out a guy and we couldn’t even get a win streak going. If there isn’t an actual player base, bad players become useless cannon fodder, normal players seem like terrible players, and the top 1% have to play every game like it’s their last. And good luck knowing how matchmaking will sort it out. I was curious if these low numbers would affect trials players like Jake or Frost, but this speaks volumes… I do hope that somehow, this game regains its footing, I love this game, I hate seeing it in this state. It really does feel like it’s actually on life support…

[@biggjozzdogg]

What are you going to do with yourself during your break?

[@xSpyCx]

We need to 3 stack like we did when I played with you. Me you and Gold. We’ll get your 5000.

[@dominickmajeska28]

I wish Bungie would give me the opportunity to give them ideas for the game! Plus after doing a ton of lore research I feel confident that OGs and others would be ecstatic! I already have ideas for how to end Destiny 2 and bring on Destiny 3! I’m not even trying to sound arrogant or crazy but I just love the game and lore of Destiny that I would do everything to make the game great again!

[@adxmartistic5974]

Just finished the video. Gotta be honest. I think the games time has come. I had a 2.2 in trials. Over 530 something flawlesses. I quit because i enjoyed the final shape but other games were dropping. GOOD games too. I uninstalled and played other stuff and look back at destiny and its an exhausting thought. I see the "this is how we bring players back" comments and its ALWAYS been like this. Nothjng can convince me to go back sadly. There are better things to play. I saw this vide and checked it out. Thought id drop my thoughts because i loved destiny since i was 14ish? But i just look now and think "ugh. Not again". I hope destiny players can find something as fresh. Nothing will feel like destiny. But that isnt a bad thing. Go enjoy some new and exciting stuff!

[@xAJAxY]

Id like to see you catch a dub in Apex legends !