Hello to folks in the year 2024! This was the first tournament we ran over a year ago. If you enjoy this, check out our playlist of other BN6 events! kzbin.info/aero/PLBZvjQiQi7Wk4tydGA4MqFhgM6fAEYQ3g And if you'd like to learn more about PVP, I made a MEGA video for newer players. Everything you could want to know 🫡 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpbEg56Zl86WeZo
@MechanicalRabbits Жыл бұрын
I really love the 20 second countdown. It's probably the best thing Capcom has added to the collection (besides online play). It really killed the pace when people spent entire minutes just staring at their chips doing nothing, so forcing people to actually think on the spot makes matches way more entertaining.
@CantusTropus Жыл бұрын
I think it should be 30 seconds but I can see your point
@SoulXCross. Жыл бұрын
I think a timer for each Cust menu turn is absolutely necessary and valid. I just don't like the 20 second timer. 35-40 seconds is definitely a better number so that players have more time to develop a stronger turn.
@chimuoma390 Жыл бұрын
@@SoulXCross. I'd Murder Everyone In This Tourney With My PA Folder If I Could Transfer My Hacked Saves To This Legacy Collection!!!!5 PAs PER TURN!I'M THE CHAMP!
@Ghostdeth13242 Жыл бұрын
@Chi Muoma ahh yes the custom +30 ncp
@dspawn9874 Жыл бұрын
I think demi said it once that the 20 second timer is a little short but it would be way better if you kept the chips you already selected. I do agree that as a spectator 20 second timers are nice and keeps a good pace
@SoulXCross. Жыл бұрын
Thank you Demi for having me on the comms with you; it was such a fun experience! Love the tournament, 10/10 would definitely cast again for you!
@eclaire11k Жыл бұрын
This was one of the craziest tournaments I've ever seen.. Couldn't have imagined this game would be so in depth.
@knox7945 Жыл бұрын
The game has so much potential. And I can see this being an actual Esport if given the chance
@projectxrapture Жыл бұрын
@@knox7945 it's already been in esports
@knox7945 Жыл бұрын
@@projectxrapture in a minor setting, but I'm talking about being decently big
@Essman614 Жыл бұрын
Battle Network has some of the most dedicated fans of any game ever. Before the collection the game was still played competitively by fans on native hardware. BN fans are a breed apart
@ulquiorra7446 Жыл бұрын
@@Essman614 what you mean by native hardware?
@AndrevusWhitetail Жыл бұрын
Going BeastOver only to get denied by a split second Sanctuary was a sight to behold.
@knox7945 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully this will spawn more interest in the PvP market.
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
To newer players: I'll be continuing our "PvP Fundamentals" series soon! There's a lot to get excited about : ) You can find our Top 8 Steam builds right here: shorturl.at/uxNY6 Please @SoulXCross on Twitter if you enjoyed his amazing commentary!
@thedoublehelix356 Жыл бұрын
Hey do you think you'll be doing these kind of videos for other battle networks?
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
@TheDoubleHelix Great question Helix. BN6 is so much more balanced than the others so it would need a strong push from players for me to organize it
@thedoublehelix356 Жыл бұрын
@@scoutmasterdemi ya I have found that bn6 is way more popular, even in the grassroots scene from before legendary collection.... I do appreciate your videos though! Not enough people are making videos that explain the meta and the niches of the chips/folders/custs. BN is a very deep game and PvP especially so!
@vincentsissom4180 Жыл бұрын
Got an idea for a Tournament. Basically, I call it "Solar Power Tournament" where the only Chips allowed are ones with no printed Attack power, like the Gun Del Sol chips. You think this would make an interesting Tournament?
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
@Vincent Sissom Oh that's a fun thought Vincent! My only thought is if there's enough chips like that to delete the opponent? You'd have a lot of folder space for defense so maybe it turns into a buster war? Would be fun to see weird chips get used though!
@Corowku Жыл бұрын
Watching these matches really makes me wanna jump into BN6 and battle people. Great video! Great matches!
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
That makes me so happy to hear! Let us know if you have any questions, it's such a blast : )
@chimuoma390 Жыл бұрын
@@scoutmasterdemi Too Bad You Can't Hack P.A.'s Into Your Folder Like In The Game Boy Version!
@LAGEMA Жыл бұрын
This was so much fun! Thanks for the invite bro!
@CarpetSnakes Жыл бұрын
great ending
@UltimaKeyMaster Жыл бұрын
Huh. I never knew JudgeMan's chip had a secondary attack that's effectively one of those revenge areagrab moves.
@nbehring09 Жыл бұрын
This was extremely fun to watch and the commentary was top notch!
@HashiNuke Жыл бұрын
That was just the most intense Net Battling I've ever seen. Especially that final Colonel Force from Lagema, that was just... Wow.
@jest5837 Жыл бұрын
This was awesome! Thank you for hosting this. I'm hoping for more people to do tournaments for this game.
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jest! I can't speak for others but this one did so well that I'll absolutely do another late May : )
@retrospect Жыл бұрын
Love the new Network scene!
@thanderhop1489 Жыл бұрын
I read through the folder submissions for the players in the finals and the only chip in either folder that wasn't a staple, a defense or support chip, or a mega/giga was a single copy of Gun Del Sol 3 Q.
@poonzor7087 Жыл бұрын
toolbox meta has been around for a while. hopefully the community can implement a banlist similar to yugioh so we can see a little more chip variety
@RexZShadow Жыл бұрын
@@sirgarde2293 rather than ban set some limits. Like only x amount of chip from group a or whatever. Make people pick which of there meta chips to take.
@thanderhop1489 Жыл бұрын
@@sirgarde2293 Problem there is that a lot of chips that were mega chips in BN3-5 became standard chips in BN6, which was one of the few things that game did wrong imo. Lots of people run Sanctuary, Life Aura, Atk +30, Double Pt, Bug Fix, and Full Cust all in one folder. Ordinarily, that would be 6 mega chips right there already. If they were still correctly designated as mega chips, people would still run them, but they would compete with your eraseman, judgeman, and elementman for utility, and they would totally crowd out hard hitting SP chips like Groundman, Protoman, and Blastman. (And btw, if the folders we're talking about lost their navi chips due to using their mega slots on sanctuary, life aura, attack +30, full cust, and bug fix in one of them, they'd be left with just 1 attacking chip: Colonel Force. Seems like a kinda sacky meta to be encouraging when your only offensive plan is having one specific chip work. It's not exactly like that of course because you get some extra offense from your crosses (especially something like slash with area grab) and your beast out charge attacks. This however is actually another factor unique to BN6 that makes folders like these possible (you can convert some of your unneeded support chips into damage using beast out). It does seem odd and sorta contrary to the folder building spirit of the BN series for your folder to be built to make your crosses good rather than your crosses making your folder good so to speak. If people wanted to experiment with a sort of "banlist" to shake things up, I would suggest starting by taking all the "legacy mega chips" and requiring that they be treated as actual mega chips for the purposes of folder building. Maybe then people would build folders with a good amount of standard chips intended to deal damage (idk, put in a bunch of aqua chips and use aqua cross, put in a bunch of cursor chips and use erase cross, etc).
@thanderhop1489 Жыл бұрын
@@sirgarde2293 I really appreciate hearing your thoughts on this. Maybe as a thought experiment, we could theorize about how to directly counter the strategy we saw in this mirror match. If the ideas I suggest here can counter this and also just do generally well against other strategies, then I think that reflects some good overall healthiness and balance in the game. Goals: 1: Survive. 2: Deal more damage than our opponent. First, in light of goal 1, we want to analyze our opponent's offensive potential. That basically comes down to 3 things: 1: Colonel Force. 2: 5 navi chips (the big 3 and 2 more that are usually going to be harder hitting SP chips). 3: Cross charge attacks and beast out charge attacks. The main thing I notice there is that our opponent doesn't have very much offensive potential. As such, we probably don't need to run that much defense per se (since only about 6/30 chips of our opponent deal significant damage, it's not like we should feel that desperate to use invis or antidamage every turn). In light of goal 2, it seems like we get better value by trying to suppress our opponent's offense with our own offense rather than running more defense than our opponent's offense calls for. Idea 1: Run anti navi and beat. Countering navi chips like this proportionally affects our opponent's offense more than usual when they don't run very much else. Idea 2: Focus on cross breaking. We want to bring a decent amount of chips that break the most offensively dangerous crosses. These are basically all the gregar crosses (maybe the fire crosses are the least dangerous, but they have double the representation). We don't want to only plan for fighting gregar even though that's how this thought experiment started, so we'll also mention tomahawk (2x3 charge attack is dangerous with just 1 areagrab, and the status guard is extra reason to plan for this), and we also want to bring cursor chips if we can since they break traps and falzar has 2 breaking crosses (I would say this is of secondary importance). If we break our opponent's crosses, they start running out of offense very quickly. Idea 3: Run a good amount of HP. We probably need at least +800 or +1000 in the navicust to avoid getting sacked by colonel force. If we have the more offensive strategy, we want the battle to go the distance so we have time to prove it. Idea 4: Run slow gauge. If our opponent runs triple invis *, we want to not let that stall out an entire turn. We also want to have time to use our buster to bait out anti damage so our chips aren't blocked. We also want to invest in our buster so our cross charge attacks also deal good damage to complement our use of slow gauge. I do find it interesting looking at the folder submissions that one player ran double slow gauge while the other ran double fast gauge. Interesting stylistic difference despite running similar folders. Idea 5: Given our more limited space for staples, prioritize field control over defense. No matter what, we still have to avoid getting areagrabbed and beaten down early by cross charge shots or colonel force, and we have to deal with sanctuary and life aura. Therefore, we need to bring our own areagrabs, grab revenge, panel breaking (in case we need our elementman * for something else), wind racks, etc. However, we probably don't need to bring triple invis and triple anti damage and stuff like that.
@driumissimo Жыл бұрын
Yeah the community already killed this, everyone is running the same shit. Would be nice to see banlists targeting the top 5 meta decks specifically to push for variety.
@narutop2244 Жыл бұрын
This is dope, we need this game in EVO
@theguardianarchives433 Жыл бұрын
💯
@NTH_SR Жыл бұрын
Those were some crazy matches! So much to learn!
@MushySR Жыл бұрын
true
@LightningFear Жыл бұрын
So glad I witnessed it live on stream. Was an amazing and fun tournement and I can't wait for the next one. Thank you very much for organizing such an event!
@solidussnake1906 Жыл бұрын
have no idea whats happening, just numbers flying around to me but it's cool to see people get hype for such an old game.
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
That is SO understandable! I'll be continuing our "PvP Fundamentals" series to help break all the complexity down!
@davidgood840 Жыл бұрын
Same. Just playing MMBN1 for the first time now and I can't follow what's happening here lol
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
@@davidgood840 Check out the rest of our series! I make videos to break down PvP in less complicated ways : )
@Mavuika_Gyaru Жыл бұрын
I haven't been this hyped watching a gaming tournament in ages. This was intense!
@ginia100 Жыл бұрын
this turnoment was so much fun to watch! i cant wait for the next one! Im so hyped to see demi for several hours a day!
@hakimalam7753 Жыл бұрын
Man that was fun, I hope this can get more attention for competitive scene
@NoBodyUKnow100 Жыл бұрын
What exciting matches! I'm surprised at how similar and yet very different the competitor's styles were. With the LC out, I'm hoping I can do more PVP when back in the day I couldn't and learn things I hadn't before.
@werti4894 Жыл бұрын
awesome set of games, was on the edge of my seat the entire time!!!
@gat0 Жыл бұрын
This was so dope to watch, GG's 🎉
@bluwzrdphone Жыл бұрын
That's awesome, I look forward to entering the next one!
@Nofappingh0es Жыл бұрын
SoulxCross is such a dope Bn commentator. Always brings the hype to the matches.
@SoulXCross. Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro!! That really means the world to me!
@neoshenlong Жыл бұрын
This makes me think we should have more esport focused turn based RPGs. Of course we have Pokemon but we could have a bunch more.
@RamenRiderX Жыл бұрын
Once Digimon TCG gets an online client its over.
@BARBERSHOPP Жыл бұрын
Insanity! Now pit the winner vs. secret final boss Thiago!
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
Thiago is SO strong! He actually competed in our Switch tournament and got far until internet issues kicked in : (
@pecoseem7164 Жыл бұрын
Never played pvp on battle network but as a teen I pvp on starforce. They need to remake those
@hakimalam7753 Жыл бұрын
Star Force 3 pvp about to be wild, Noise system is so good.
@NDUB10 Жыл бұрын
I hope there are more tourneys. This was fun to watch.
@ToiletPkay Жыл бұрын
this was hype asf, love how the megaman battle network collection turned the competitive scene alive
@scienceteam9254 Жыл бұрын
55:45 One step from eden actually gave them the opportunity to rerelease battle network because eden reignited the market.
@jonte6540 Жыл бұрын
More of these!!! The hype
@thejamiriley Жыл бұрын
Your energy is the best!!
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
JA'MI!! Thank you!!!
@Aluran Жыл бұрын
I WAS THERE AND I CLIPPED THAT MAN LEGEMA IS A BEAST
@tatiz111 Жыл бұрын
Gonna have to re watch this stream i missed it cry😢
@Hedgehog_Ninja Жыл бұрын
Saaaaame
@enriquevaldesmedina Жыл бұрын
Off topic. New subscriber. But just wanted to ask if you have a video or something about your collection for Battle Network? It looks awesome and I’d love to have a look-see. Cheers!
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
Oh goodness, thank you for asking! I'm a really intense chip collector and I'd LOVE to talk more about the things I've gathered hahaha! I appreciate your interest : )
@vladventura1928 Жыл бұрын
Guys small question, what kind of netcode is the PvP using? I vaguely remember BN was gonna use Rollback but I'm not sure
@grimsleeper6539 ай бұрын
I'm going to buy a switch just to get this game to play with you guys.
@AzemSP Жыл бұрын
For future stuff like this It be cool if you gave us more info on each players build. Id like to know their Navi custs, their decks, etc
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
Actually it's pinned to the top of comments! Take a look : )
@s7121n9s11 ай бұрын
I cannot wait to get finished with bn6 and get all the chips so I can really get into pvp
@scoutmasterdemi11 ай бұрын
And we can't wait to have you! It's a TON of fun! : )
@theguardianarchives433 Жыл бұрын
LAGEMA goes in I remember battling him back in the day
@epicnerf1 Жыл бұрын
SoulxCross commentary? Lets gooo
@SoulXCross. Жыл бұрын
If you're playing BN, then I'm your boi! I'm here for it all bro!
@mirahsan2 Жыл бұрын
I hate how capcom didn't include side games in their collections, 4.5 real operation was ahead of it's time
@syrelian Жыл бұрын
4.5 Real Op is an amazing game, but its inherently incomplete without excessive editing, since it was designed for the Chip Gate
@vanidy0115 Жыл бұрын
colforce ain't gonna sugarcoat it
@BlueTurn Жыл бұрын
Love seeing pvp for 6 while im still playing through 3.
@itranscendencei7964 Жыл бұрын
What track is playing in the background? It's one of the best in the series and I just can't remember which one it is.
@AndrevusWhitetail Жыл бұрын
It's the N1 / Ranked Battle Theme from Battle Network 3
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
It's called Great Battlers from BN3! The specific mix is from Kokiremix on KZbin : )
@itranscendencei7964 Жыл бұрын
Thank you guys!
@ashinothulung36049 ай бұрын
From which games are those battle chips from??
@scoutmasterdemi9 ай бұрын
This is all Battle Network 6! If you're ever interested in multiplayer PVP, it's the best one for that by far : )
@kobefan24723 ай бұрын
Where do you guys mostly play? Steam? i wish it were crossplay but just glad its back :)
@scoutmasterdemi3 ай бұрын
Hey Kobe! For Legacy Collection most play on Switch. If you're on PC most play on Tango which enables rollback net code and 100% saves. Let me know if you have other questions!
@kobefan24722 ай бұрын
@@scoutmasterdemi im playing on my oled switch i wish i could play on pc but i have a mac but still possible with paralells its great on switch tho! i could only imagine the fun with some mods and ppl to play with :)
@zeronamagem8617 Жыл бұрын
Never have battled a real person before since nobody I knew played BN, I bought the legacy collection just so I can try PVP. Almost done with 6 then I'll start looking things up. Hope there's people to play on switch.
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
There absolutely are Zero! Switch is the most popular LC platform, hope to see you around so we can answer questions : )
@nintendokings Жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@zetsun0 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, new here, but what are the online differences between the new LC and the old gba games?
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
Hey Zetsun0, great to meet you! The biggest difference is an unfortunate one: the 20 second chip timer they implemented is just way too short
@DBest18 Жыл бұрын
Hey man! How much would you sell that Plug-in PEt In the back?
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
Hey D! Unfortunately I wouldn't sell my boxed one. I do gave an opened blue Plug In however. Hit me up on ebay, I upload new 99 cent listings every Monday for Battle Network! www.ebay.com/usr/demidyourmc_twitch_streams
@carlmcbrode4837 Жыл бұрын
Im curious how they have all the chips when it barely just came out for switch, ps,xbox, and steam
@BananaReidy Жыл бұрын
Two nerds battle it out for the title of the steamestt virus buster.
@04alvas Жыл бұрын
Where is the plug for the N1 ?
@bobosstroll9798 Жыл бұрын
These people would get wrecked in switch lobbies lol
@MrVariant Жыл бұрын
1:00 wild card * chips are legal? I hope there's a mode some day to limit but I know people want as many battle chips played as possible in a turn.
@VioletSteel13 Жыл бұрын
That sanctuary saving non stop from Geddon blew my damn mind
@Nofaz Жыл бұрын
Steam or switch version is the best for the mmbn legacy if you want to play pvp? I love this game.
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
That's a hard question to answer. I can tell you that Switch is a lot more popular for finding opponents (we had 48 Switch players in our tournament compared to 27 Steam), but PC is great too!
@Nofaz Жыл бұрын
@@scoutmasterdemi thanks for the reply but one more question, can we play against player with different version? For instance gregar vs falzar version.
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
@@Nofaz Absolutely! It's a lot of fun to see what your opponent does with a different set of abilities
@rossofinale Жыл бұрын
I haven't played BN in years before the collection came out and didn't know there was a competitive scene but I've been watching videos lately and wanted to ask, why do people not just use the Mega Buster to remove the Anti-Dmg the opponent might have?
@aegisslayer5808 Жыл бұрын
The Mega buster by itself does not proc the antidamage, only charged shots.
@GOGOROBOv2 Жыл бұрын
hype hype hype
@alfredoarellano6606 Жыл бұрын
Never followed the pro scene for this but why is the casting so biased for Nonstop? Kind of even feels like they are more upset that Nonstop lost then Lagema won.
@jorgelumill158 Жыл бұрын
Nonstop's read and counters were on point. Chef's Kiss.
@Littelfighter17 Жыл бұрын
Which nt game is good in the collection to Start and it is true there is a rank system? I want buy it for the switch in the future.
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
Start with BN2 if you've never played! BN1 is not very fun IMO
@Littelfighter17 Жыл бұрын
@@scoutmasterdemi thanks
@justlearning1881 Жыл бұрын
Would love a Stylized 3D megaman FPS,
@Kyvinn Жыл бұрын
So are people mostly playing, what is this? Six? I wanna play multiplayer but 2 is my favorite but haven't seen a lot of multiplayer on that one
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
This is BN6 yes! It's by far the best multiplayer experience. BN2 is a fun game for single player but possibly the least balanced for PvP unfortunately
@ByakuganWhite Жыл бұрын
I hate how this guy moves on the chip selection screen . Bouncing around like he's having a seizure. I don't know whyI hate it. It's very petty. But this was otherwise a great watch.
@Xenohaste Жыл бұрын
Now that done with the xenoblade 3 dlc I need to hurry and finish bn6 so i can play in these! Also quick question why even have the steam version isn't that just playing the N1 with extra steps?
@RexZShadow Жыл бұрын
Because it will have way higher player base because it's on steam.
@cobeoe Жыл бұрын
I couldn't do it I really wanted to but I couldn't participate sadly
@jamiele296 Жыл бұрын
Idk what’s going on how do I get into pvp
@TayoEXE Жыл бұрын
This is one e-sport I don't mind watching.
@JuanRamirez-xs2ko Жыл бұрын
Was this played on the switch?
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
This was the STeam tournament finals, tomorrow I'll upload the Switch finals!
@DrRobGilles Жыл бұрын
Is anyone willing to compare libraries? I’m on ps5. Looking for a falzar player ideally to get mega chips.
@yoyoprofessorxavier Жыл бұрын
The strategizing is really cool to watch but I'd probably just cut the part of chip selection because those parts are so drawn out and boring.
@CYBERBEAST21 Жыл бұрын
How can I play this??!
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
Hey Augio, can you explain your question?
@aceventura9841 Жыл бұрын
which battle network is this?
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
This is BN6! I make videos going over lessons for new players : )
@fatherofrose4027 Жыл бұрын
Are they on pc or switch? How tf they get their chips that fast xD
@syrelian Жыл бұрын
"Steam", PC version, and the answer is collaboration and guides for collection
@fatherofrose4027 Жыл бұрын
@@syrelian yeah collaboration with mods
@syrelian Жыл бұрын
@@fatherofrose4027 Nah, the N1GP is buddies with the major English Speaking speedrun community for the BN Games, so we're just drowning in guides for stuff like All Chips across the games, alongside other useful ones, throw in people doing trades and its not that hard to build a library fast, especially if you don't spend time clearing 1-5 first like most casual folks are doing
Was there a chip ban list or something? Because these chip folders are poorly built. Also, I didn't want to play through 6 in time for this tournament but I wish I did because it did not look like either of these players knew what they were doing. Maybe I didn't understand the rules or something but both these players needed to be way more aggressive
@fatherofrose4027 Жыл бұрын
Oh nah they definitely ruined online player with the timer and damage gauge
@scoutmasterdemi Жыл бұрын
Damage gauge isn't new but the timer is absolutely way too short.... Even an extra 10 seconds would be huge
@syrelian Жыл бұрын
Damage Judge is actually a vanilla feature, that was how the game always worked, the Custom Timer is painfully short though, 10-20 more seconds would help a lot
@iroison Жыл бұрын
i feel like the 20 seconds is good 3 turns taking a min for customization is good where as 30 seconds for two turns nah
@syrelian Жыл бұрын
@@iroison As someone who has played a lot of PvP before the collection came out, 20 is very much too short, 30-40 is more appropriate considering that you're pre-planning an entire turns worth of interactions, including predictions Solo play, 20 would be fine(but pointlessly frustrating), things are simply and clean and most of the time your hand prep is just figuring out how you wanna deal damage, with minimal defensive planning, but its not the same for PvP
@YourACun..t Жыл бұрын
This is pissing me off how everyone out here PvPing and I can’t get a single match anywhere in the world or is it all private
@SoulXCross. Жыл бұрын
Check out the N1GP!! There are tons of players play BNLC there!