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@Levinsbun6 ай бұрын
Thrones of Decay pregame
@Demonsul6 ай бұрын
Those cannon shots scything through the chaos knights... makes my dwarf heart proud
@jawafreak2306 ай бұрын
Yesssss. Dawi shot is not to be underestimated!
@kapitankapital65806 ай бұрын
Takes me back to Empire Total War...
@sirunklydunk88616 ай бұрын
He's playing 2 of the 3 factions in Thrones of Decay. Coincidence? I think NOT!
@MrGiegon6 ай бұрын
And on an Empire road nonetheless.
@Beorn_6 ай бұрын
11:05 SHORT?!?!?!?! THAT GOING STRAIGHT IN THE BOOK!!!! Also great game❤
@eliludmir95065 ай бұрын
Damn it I was going to comment that lol
@lolsovs6 ай бұрын
9:09 that skidmark of chaos knights is a sight to behold...
@WatcherEight6 ай бұрын
I literally CANNOT tell you how excited i am about DLC for Empire and Dawi....
@xyro36336 ай бұрын
And Nurgle, right? Right?
@Insomnia97PC6 ай бұрын
And Nippon
@FUNBadTime6 ай бұрын
@@xyro3633 Whenever I talk about this Dlc, I have to mention that Nurgle is the one thing I look forward to most. New content for the filty mentide and beardlice is also nice tho.
@WatcherEight6 ай бұрын
@@xyro3633 Yes my friend, nurgle too :)
@WatcherEight6 ай бұрын
@@FUNBadTime You know that goes into the book ;)
@tz03w7tz36 ай бұрын
11:04 ..........Snorri....get the book
@jawafreak2306 ай бұрын
Lmfao
@zaviwaher95366 ай бұрын
Always awesome to see a Dawi win. Originally found your channel when you used to play a lot of Dawi and Empire years back
@lich1096 ай бұрын
Plague Toads have trouble dealing with heavy armour like what Hammerers have, so that hill engagement is very noticeable because infantry will instantly die from being punted down the hill. It lead to the Hammerers taking way more damage than they should've, and was a great engagement by the Nurgle player.
@cinder89266 ай бұрын
Yeah pretty sure Hammerers batter shielded Chosen in a straight up fight. Taking two charges knocking dozens of models down the hill to insta death massively impacted there morale and damage output in that fight. A shame Hammerers are fairly glass cannon despite high stats and armour but they can do amazing in infantry fights and they didn't get any chance to show off against a perfect target in this game.
@obombomattatetrahondamog14616 ай бұрын
Poor Hammerers died to gravity after the charge
@liamcullen30356 ай бұрын
Each time the toads charged the hammerers, multiple hammerer models got knocked down the hill and died upon landing. That hill hurts!
@AurioDK6 ай бұрын
I think the Hammerers did extremely well, their holding power was immense considering what they were up against. Sometimes that´s all you need, for a unit to just hold.
@phoenixblaze54916 ай бұрын
I usualy try to bring at least 1 chosen unit when i do nurgle. They are the kind of unit that can just solo hold a point against crazy odds.
@sandercohen97126 ай бұрын
I really start to question whether the GW dwarf warriors are worth it over the regular ones. I mean, sure you get AP, but you trade 10 MD for that. chaos warriors don't have stellar MA either, so the regular dwarf warriors will hold out longer, if not do more damage because of that. The GW did almost nothing to the chaos warriors, most likely because of their high MD. Not to mention you have to pay an extra 50 gold for what is essentially a sidegrade.
@thepiousskeleton60466 ай бұрын
As Nurgle, what may actually be a decent call in against cannons in this matchup are Plague Drones with Deaths Heads. You can move them into the back field to fire at the cannon crew. If they call in Slayers because they expect you to land, you just stay in the air and keep firing and if they call in a ranged unit like Quarrelers or Bugman's, you can dive them and potentially get a free pick.
@idle_q36996 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say so. Those cannons would eat plague drones out of the sky if they stood still. Don’t know if deaths head has fire whilst moving but it would take far too long to kill every cannon crewman model with the poop grenades looking at the unit count. Not to mention 80 armor for a crewman unit. Nurgle just has a shit time with this match up. Both sides don’t have a lot of MA or AP but the difference comes out to the ranged units. I honestly don’t know how you’d approach this as a nurgle player.
@florians99496 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t the cannon shoot the drones? Because dawi crews can actually aim.
@thepiousskeleton60466 ай бұрын
@@idle_q3699 At max range, a cannon is able to take out about 1-3 models before the Plague Drones position above its firing arc. From there their ranged attacks do decent damage to the crew and easily kill the cannon models while being unable to be shot by it. I don't play a lot of dwarfs but I have played a fair amount of Nurgle and it seems like a pretty even matchup to me and Nurgle has solid AP in their great weapons, toads, throwing axe cav, and rot flies and plague drones which I think are being slept on in this matchup. I think the Nurgle build wasn't optimal at all here. Too many knights that were called out well after he lost the value trades, marauders in the opening for easy blasting charge targets, not enough flyers to pressure Gyrocopters, slow af Festus who is vulnerable to character goon squads & Gyros with no support. In my experience, you want a mobile caster with lore passive spam, great weapon warriors to weather the inevitable blasting charges and cleave through their frontline, and either Exalted Heroes or Cultists to pressure their ranged assets. Personally, I prefer the Exalted Heroes as they can hold up in melee against Dawi heroes better and the summons are hard to get off if they manage to tarpit you in infantry.
@thepiousskeleton60466 ай бұрын
@@florians9949 At max range and flying in a straight line towards them, cannons can only take out about 1-3 models before they get over its firing arc and can shoot its models and crew unimpeded.
@Freekymoho6 ай бұрын
@@florians9949they cant shoot straight up
@insearchofprometheus6 ай бұрын
The problem with the hammerers was they were fighting on the downhill side of a slope. It provides a massive debuff and a significant buff to the higher unit, and falling damage when they get punted is significant and can instakill models.
@Deech-n-FFOx6 ай бұрын
@6:30 Gotrek bein' a bit of a demi-god character: Agreed! Even in AoS tabletop, he destroys! Love my little mohawk boy :)
@AngryLemon196 ай бұрын
Hey Turin rewatch that battle and watch the toads charge your hammers. You can see about 1/3 of the models actually die due to fall damage and don't a chance to fight. I was wondering why the got smashed so quick and I watched it back a couple times
@AngryLemon196 ай бұрын
Having your units positioned on the edge of a hill makes it very easy to use that fall damage against you. Its pretty clear in the replay Subatai isn't doing it on purpose so maybe that be some forbidden tech you can whip out on this map or others
@Даниил-в1и8п6 ай бұрын
11:43 that value difference... my oh my
@irodwen6 ай бұрын
dude, half those hammers were killed by fall damage. those toads hit them on that downhill charge and it flung them far enough to die from fall damage. thats rough.
@donfluffles11546 ай бұрын
As someone who has proudly Mained dwarfs for a while I’ve found a a few more niche things. Firstly dwarfs have no mass outside of their characters so always have max which can be really easy with thanes only costing 500gold, gyrocopeters aren’t that good and probably shouldn’t be brought in any match up, hammers lack the stat line to be worthy of an elite infantry but absolutely clean though warriors they’re good but need to be supported with a dwarf warrior filtered in. Giant slayers despite the large cost far exceed regular slayers and come recommended with factions that don’t have range I’ve used them so many times and chaos knights, soul grinders, dinosaurs, even elemental incarnate always folds in a minute or less with the right engagement. Though I’m of the firm opinion that the dwarfs need some massive buffs and new units in TOD
@NatesMiniatures6 ай бұрын
One of my favourite matchups, I am excited to see Dwarfs get some love in Thrones of Decay as well. It was also awesome to see Hammerers get some play 👌
@Anvilarm076 ай бұрын
I love seeing victories in Dwarf domination battles.
@oldrin18766 ай бұрын
Awesome battle Turin!
@Angeloflight4446 ай бұрын
Great Dawi army selection Turin! I think half the game was won with the army composition and the other half with excellent tactical awareness and choices! GGs to the both of you! 🙂 I don’t know what it is about hammerers but they seem to be a bit lackluster at times.
@tommasocreatini25136 ай бұрын
holy crap... Thorek is super jacked.
@parkerconnolly24846 ай бұрын
11:06 SHORT??!!!!!
@Isaakmedextraa6 ай бұрын
Call me a Grudge because I was satisfied by this.
@scattyork41766 ай бұрын
So Hammerers exist since day one of Warhammer 1 in game and never ever have they been any good. I think it's about time to change that.
@Anvilarm076 ай бұрын
They are stubborn in tabletop so they last forever.
@geoclaw6 ай бұрын
Grudges have been settled
@kapitankapital65806 ай бұрын
Honestly I've always found Hammerers to be kinda trash. They're pretty weak to missile fire but they're also not great against other infantry. They can dish out damage, sure, but only 36 melee defence means they'll be taking hits from even mid-tier infantry pretty consistently. Their gimmick seems to be high weapon damage, but the problem is they're way to slow to pick and choose their engagements and the Dwarfs have plenty of ranged options that can dish out DPS without taking a load of damage in return.
@westleybridge45136 ай бұрын
Really good teq for this match up would be Plague ridden on a rot fly as the healer spell caster and Festus as the damage caster. Switch out furies for a unit of rot flys w/ death heads and it would make a big difference.
@fedrickosvald5936 ай бұрын
I feel like dwarf matchup is unplayable for nurgle, at least for me its insane pain
@iain-duncan6 ай бұрын
3 units of chaos knights that did literally nothing
@revaril68596 ай бұрын
Always love to see a Dwarf game
@grun12396 ай бұрын
Dawi hell yeah. Why not bring felix? Same for Ekrunds, frickin love those dudes
@staticdrutis25666 ай бұрын
its always sad seeing our papa take a loss but after this coming update i hope to see alot more viability coming his way
@kubka46 ай бұрын
Nurgle is actually not doing that bad. Someone even won a Turin SFT tournament with them a few days ago. Although that definitely wasn't expected.
@staticdrutis25666 ай бұрын
@@kubka4 oooh I'll have to watch that one
@ryanquinlan97186 ай бұрын
They should make gotrek the new high king of the three dwarves faction in AOS so they all go under one faction. Dwarves respect strength and gotrek could whoop any duardin lord from Aos in a hot second.
@sushanalone6 ай бұрын
7:46 about 40 of those Hammerer models got killed due to fall damage after being flung on charge. Thats not good.
@MusMasi6 ай бұрын
Thankfully the Dawi are short enough for the cannon to shoot over........................"SHORT"!!!
@julianspaghi45926 ай бұрын
Jeez Turin, plis stop with this dawi showdown, my "Gob-lobber" can only get soo erect! What can Barfdemons do against such reckless hate? Everybody knows dwarfs eat farts 4 breakfast!......(Hol' up) on a serious note, Loving those cannon shots, gyroo's, gotrek+thane squad & lovin those bugman rascals and slayertides. Likewise im a bit disappointed on the hammerers -shortcomings- bad performance, watching them flying of the hill like 10m down dying instantly makes me sad (it really wasn't their fault)
@Dramn_6 ай бұрын
Bugmans have passive healing? Wat the hek
@dollarsex90206 ай бұрын
Gotrek, RAF, hammerers, love to see it ))
@florians99496 ай бұрын
Man you know you’re slow when a dwarf can outrun you. Also Festus learned to fear the DAF.
@toxlequa6 ай бұрын
Nice win
@dearberlin6 ай бұрын
I think I have short memory.
@grun12396 ай бұрын
Anyone know the amount of winds of magic you get to start and in reserve?
@eisenhorn75886 ай бұрын
KHAZUKAN KAZAKIT-HA!!!
@teball316 ай бұрын
2 melee foot heroes also a foot lord good in melee Brings Gotrek NO FELIX You deserved to lose this, sorry not sorry
@deknof33966 ай бұрын
I think 1 giantslayers istead of an normal one might be better just to have something agains armor
@geoffroyperrault48086 ай бұрын
"something you forget is that bugman's ranger have charge defense against large foes" Indeed, you forget that