The Stone Roses Waterfall Live The Other Side Of Midnight

[@HappytubsDoncaster]

One of the best drummers ever

[@htimsdekim]

absolutely

[@JulioBatista66]

Severely underrated drummer!! He is one of the greatest, I so agree with you there!

[@HappytubsDoncaster]

​@@JulioBatista66 for a drummer to engage with ravers in the 80;s to me was a great thing

[@gonzaloreyes8782]

Reni solo simply amazing

[@colinsweeney2628]

I agree , so underrated

[@signoguns8501]

For a group of lads who had that cocky football swagger, they wrote some of the most beautiful songs of all time. I absolutely love the stone roses. Music that brings pure joy.

[@David-vg8lx]

Sheer lies

[@duckbrew]

For 1 album anyway..

[@MrFirefox]

some people just got that soul

[@HThomson21]

@@duckbrewsecond coming ?

[@spamwagon]

Man, that drummer defines the term "In The Pocket". Just perfect, and backup vocals too. Brilliant.

[@gregc2467]

My only criticism of Reni is that he's a City fan.3 Reds and 1 Blue.It's a Manc thing.

[@gpz550a2]

​@@gregc2467 He can't be! Say it isn't so...😫

[@jk5496]

​@@gregc2467 probably why left he first lol

[@julianevans9548]

This is what annoys me about Ian Brown - when he tries to sing, he's OK. Not good, by any means - not even close - but passable. Whereas normally he shouts and is awful, ruining every song.

[@daveloriw]

@@gregc2467 yet he is celebrating today. Go city!

[@davoid7914]

This show aired on January 15th, 1989. The first single released from their debut album was 'Made of Stone' on 6th March, 1989. The album was released May 2nd, 1989. 'Waterfall' was released late in 1991 and first charted on January 11th, 1992; nearly 3 years after the TV appearance. It charted for 5 weeks and peaked at 27.

[@andrewlynch2620]

Fantastic band Manchester s finest

[@bryancuttance9547]

Man, that drumming is sublime.

[@blakevincent5786]

Watching this 30 years later brings so many memories back and a smile to my face. It was a fantastic time to be a teenager, I feel blessed. For an all too brief moment in time, they were the best band in the world.

[@mikeschneider1624]

i feel your love and i smile

[@blunty9907]

oh shut up !!

[@blunty9907]

@@mikeschneider1624?wtf

[@mikeschneider1624]

@@blunty9907 sir, i guess i have to apologise for my posting. I don't want to delete it as a reminder to myself for how emotional i can gut when .. alcohol .. anyway .. this song is for you .. thank you for trying to make me be a better person .. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGSVZYupZahmnqM

[@andrewstubbs822]

Perfect post! 🙌 I couldn't have put that any better myself.

[@anthonycleary4676]

Great to see people giving it up for Reni! He's a legend, and Mani is just laying down solid grooves. It's hard to find a rhythm section this good.

[@robbiemontgomery581]

Best rhythm section of all time in my opinion.

[@captaincomputaa]

A band that totally nailed it,the looks,the style,the songs,the playing,the whole package.

[@poshladdie]

And the main one - don’t fuck with us attitude - on their own terms 🎯

[@Lexthebarbarian]

You nailed it on that one, mate.

[@greglarry11]

Horrible mix though, god.

[@brutallyremastered4255]

"the whole package." Like a product.

[@CKC411]

I love The Stone Roses music, but Ian has to be the most awkward and rhythmically challenged front men ever.

[@RockaFellaa]

Tony Wilson was certainly the last of a living generation, pure admiration for music, abstract, obscure, weird, new, waves and waves of encouragement for all new acts. A class act we sorely miss

[@MOCONKLIN]

I still find it very weird he initially didn't get the roses. Tony could spot a band a mile away

[@m.i.t.s6437]

Can you imagine a better introduction than having Anthony Wilson personally apologise to you because you're absolutely fckin class?

[@nostamusica4690]

Ren = style, rhythm, technique....badass drummer

[@Kelly14UK]

elpercho Clever drummer that backed up vocals. A talent to be envied.

[@vincentbrannelly8786]

Spot on my friend . So fluid , just superb .

[@hainzy]

The Hendrix of drumming

[@mattiemclean9882]

Phil Collins wannabe

[@notdrivingaminimetro]

and he sings

[@fitzerelli1]

As an Irishman I can say easily that Britain has produced some of the greatest rock bands ever

[@altomic73]

As an Australian I can say easily that Ireland has produced some of the greatest Stout ever

[@MrAgbxl]

@@altomic73 as a scotsman i can safely say australia has produced some of the best day time soap operas for teenagers in the late 80s

[@staygreenponyboy]

@@MrAgbxl As an American, I can say confidently that the Scots are fantastic at tossing large wooden poles

[@NGGlynn]

.......with a fair amount of Irish blood in a few of them.

[@mrdarren1045]

@@altomic73 as an English man I can say Australia has contributed some of the finest mullets ever sported.

[@klausrain111]

I'm 73, been a rock music fan since '58, and completely missed the Stone Roses back in the day, not sure they were ever a big deal in the States. If they were, it was prob just in L.A. and NYC. Love the sound of these guys, great players and fine songwriters, too. Last month I even bought myself a really cool Reni hat. Reni's obviously a genius, defined as somebody who does something extremely well which is absolutely unique. Hendrix is one of those, so are Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Captain Beefheart and even Paulie!

[@johngonzalez624]

They didn't tour Stateside during their flash in the pan. King Monkey said the USA wasn't ready for the Roses. Then, they signed a behemoth deal with Geffen and disintegrated.

[@jameslivesey4684]

You can hear/see a lot of Ringo-esque fills.

[@marguskiis7711]

Reni!

[@alukuhito]

I'm about 20 years younger than you and Canadian. They weren't on mainstream radio, but all the alternative kids knew who they were in the early 90s. I don't know if mainstream rock stations ever played them, but in my world they were pretty huge. I remember people just waiting and wondering when they'd release their second album. I'm blown away by just how good their first album was. Most bands don't start so strong. It's hard to believe this recording is from 1989. They were so solid with their music, and nobody else was doing what they were yet.

[@ACNC1]

American dj's may thought that they were another Smiths spinoff band

[@MonsterHorror]

The drummer is so sick. Just watching him play makes me smile.

[@bodspafc]

MonsterHorror he’s so fluid, so relaxed.

[@TheMusicalElitist]

He looks rather well to me. He doesn't look ill at all.

[@minigrande1939]

Reni the drummer up there with Bonham. He smashes it on fools gold

[@laganas2008]

Very talented drummer. He played a few other instruments too from what I've read.

[@tompaulcampbell]

He's actually very healthy, and great!

[@TrapperJohn72]

Squire’s guitar tone & Reni’s drumming WOW 😮. What a band the Roses were.

[@pressureflipin1992]

"Will certainly be excellent"was an understatement, more like top 10 greatest albums ever.

[@jimruggiero5241]

Fucking FACTS

[@MsLiboma]

True , 99% of my record collection is jazz , electronic and African . I’m not a huge rock fan but this is one of my fave records of all time , transcends genres !

[@floridacrackerguitartips6004]

Some of the world's finest pop/rock/etc. music comes from the UK! Reni's drum groove is off the charts.

[@JT-sr2pl]

That guy playing the DVD player is amazing!

[@mrdarren1045]

Dvd players in 1989. Interesting

[@garymoore6041]

Mani is brilliant, four guys making music without a clue how influential their music was to become.

[@dbouquet]

Hats off to Cressa for solidifying the vibe. What a legend. Dave Haslam has written a biography of him, available online.

[@staffh3815]

Remember seeing this on TV, I was blown away by the whole thing

[@Mr2stardiver]

jesus they were so good this is perfection

[@screamingtrees9619]

That bass line just brings everything together. Thank you stone roses for this masterpiece

[@yellowjackboots2624]

Agreed. Reminds me of the bass line for the Beatles song Rain.

[@austynmcloughlin8727]

Hypnotic

[@TheIkaraCult]

Mani is the man

[@trefwoordpunk2225]

@@yellowjackboots2624pure macca bass line, nails the tone aswell

[@rumtumbugger]

@@yellowjackboots2624 Good spot!

[@Ridersonthestorm8899]

I watched this that night, i was on the dole so i could go to bed when i liked I remember the feeling of witnessing something special, i could hear The Byrds, they reminded me of Love and Arthur Lee, of so much more. What a cracking tune and that drumming.❤

[@chriswalter8092]

I wish I could have grown up out there instead of the United States music was just awesome and better

[@mandykhoo2473]

No roses ...no oasis

[@ant292uk]

Amen.

[@scherben8870]

Oh Manchester, so much to answer for...

[@robyn5977]

Preach 🙌

[@liamandrews4721]

stop talking shite

[@lucasm3879]

Mandy Khoo Roses were on a totally different level to Oasis. I liked Oasis a lot, but ultimately their music was basic. Noel's songs had soul and Liam's voice was great.The Roses at their best were more creative, better on their instruments and had more to say.

[@CC-ii4rf]

Tony, you came round eventually, you're forgiven!! RIP Mr Manchester.

[@lofideltaguitars8484]

Two Fender Twin Reverbs in stereo thru an Alesis processor. Oh the humanity!

[@MarcusBeard]

Blimey they don't make 'em like they used to. Fantastic.

[@ChubbyChecker182]

Damn they were SO good at that time. The look, the moves, the feel, the sound. Perfect.

[@xcx8646]

89 was their big year.

[@bigbowlowrong4694]

I am not familiar with this band at all, this was the first track of theirs I’ve ever heard. It’s brilliant. I’m a drummer myself and watching that guy behind the kit is an absolute pleasure. Very loose and relaxed yet in complete control. Also nice to see someone utilise the bell on the hi-hat. What a performance!

[@Tom-uv7ry]

They are a great band This is the one is my favourite song of theirs

[@dimulaidari3714]

That's why British Music is Great!!!👍👍👍👍

[@backgammonbacon]

Reni is the name of the drummer and is also the joint singer of the band (at least for this album), if you listen closely you will be able to hear there are two people singing.

[@Laters3]

@@terryjross1184 what’s it called

[@terryjross1184]

@@Laters3 made of stone Great show

[@gpz550a2]

Drumming masterclass from Reni. Feckin' awesome.

[@Leejunn666]

They still sound as good now as then they need to be apriciated now before its to late ..what a sound never be anything like these guys again..

[@pullingteeth20]

Easy to forget that The Roses really broke through via word of mouth. They hardly ever got played on the radio and did very little TV, but they were the band that the cool kids talked about. The hype was real.

[@bydand9148]

One of the biggest influential bands of my time and at 52 I still love them

[@lewistasso8866]

Wow! This brings back memories of my youth. This band had everything...even a dancing monkey.

[@smethdog]

If only kids today realised the importance of this gang.

[@MrLordwoodbine]

First time listen. Now a fan. Didn't realize how damned good these lads were. The Byrds for the newton generation.

[@lucasm3879]

The Byrds and the psychedelic 60's sound was a big influence on the first album. They chose to go Led Zep style swamp rock on the second which was a mistake imo.

[@jonnydavies6968]

I'm a guitarist and a singer so I know that drummers are the butt of many a joke (not by me i hasten to add, but it is well known in musician circles), but Reni. Reni is the master. Effortless. Absolute genius. What a groove. If Reni set up his drum kit at Manc Apollo, I'd be there.

[@vincentbrannelly8786]

well said . Only the deaf could disagree.

[@scherben8870]

So, if he just set up his drum kit and then left it there unattended forever, you'd be there?

[@lennycook206]

Let's be honest... "drummer jokes" isn't as big a thing as you imply it might be. If you hear more than 1 Drummer joke, you really should get new band members and friends.

[@jonnydavies6968]

@@TheMusicalElitist No, you fuck off you touchy get. Jeez, I fucking love Reni.

[@jonnydavies6968]

@@lennycook206 You're right. please be my friend so we can cry over drummer jokes.

[@WeggieQueen2005]

They were so young to come up with such perfection.

[@dannythomson5239]

christ, im nearly 50 and this still manages to send shivers though me.

[@jmc0075]

Haha I’m 51 and still love all this as luckily in my youth seen these live brilliant night from what I can remember 😂😂

[@Pazuzu82]

Ian voice here is really brilliant guitar and awesome drums then mani filling in the bass lines, what a track what a band!

[@mickrileybcn]

Highlight of my week this show when I was a student in the North West back in the late 80's. Remember this performance like it was yesterday.

[@robertpalmer384]

I'm 54 years old, there is soo much nostalgia in this clip it's unbelievable.

[@Jcushing5]

The lyrics to this are seriously worth reading

[@michaellongstaff1734]

Stone Roses and Tony “Mr Manchester” Wilson, MUFC

[@HELLOTHERE-pn4jz]

When I was 4-5 I used to have 3 other mates and we went trick or treating as the stone roses 😂

[@Luxarium]

Skitz

[@FLAVCO]

Love the sound of that Gretsch :)

[@verticalpatrolsofficial]

Try the 1978 Atkins Axe and super axe

[@MarceloFarias]

Everytine I watch this video I cry... What a band!!!!

[@mallafets]

Not a better performance on youtube, simply sublime.

[@oysterboy9]

I've listened to this song and this album so much that its a part of my being. I feel privileged to have found this group when their debut album was released and I was just a teen in Toronto. Absolute gold.

[@cadge]

First time I heard them I had no idea where their influences came from, but I knew I liked it a lot.

[@liammurphymusic9962]

Oh shit brownie is actually singing the right notes. Damn he sounds good.

[@arricammarques1955]

Singing?

[@BIGNOIDS]

@@arricammarques1955 He could sing when he wanted to.

[@loontil]

@@BIGNOIDS let's see what you've got , fukwitz...

[@akwilson1676]

Well he's not high here. He was fucking high at Blackpool.

[@ERROL007]

Anything but singing too be fair.

[@ciaranmckenna1586]

Great performance by the stone roses and R.I.P. Tony Wilson

[@leejones4497]

This was a completely new way of doing things. I don't think the world was quite ready....

[@treesplease4053]

Groovy AF, man i spent so many incredible times dancing to this with the most incredible of friends, thats livin.

[@giulioluzzardi7632]

...dont forget the Guitarist people...2 fender twin reverbs and a country gent creating a swirl of whirly loveliness and trance inducing waves...plus the other 3 = total escape and groovy dancing.

[@guinnessharvey4476]

I was born in ‘76 in Stockport . This is my nostalgia . Special time and place to grow up

[@cleehomes]

I could watch Reni play all day! If you were to pick your best lead singer, base guitarist, guitarist and drummer to ever come from Manchester Reni would be first pick, I will let you guys decide the other three band members!

[@LXS1303]

This song is just stunning; I have loved it since it came out, never gets old for me.

[@imixmuan9081]

Feel the same way bout I Am the Resurrection. I can listen to that guitar forever and ever, pretty sure when I walk into Heaven that's what's gonna be playing. Squires knocked it out of the park on that track.

[@petejones879]

Always been one of my favourite songs.. Definitely my favourite from the roses

[@carpnstuff]

This is SO '90's....Man, I miss the '90's 😮‍💨

[@samConnellchannel]

John squire: best taste in guitars, best taste in pedals. Master of melody making

[@mrc2662]

What pedals did he favour?

[@samConnellchannel]

@@mrc2662 Ibanez CS9, TS9, fuzz face, Boss flanger, Wah pedal mostly

[@matthieusix3201]

@@samConnellchannel can you tell the setup here in this live ? i'm really curious

[@samConnellchannel]

@@matthieusix3201 Gretsch Country Gentleman running into the Ibanez TS9, then fuzzface, then Ibanez CS9, into the alesis midiverb (for the echo in the outro) then into two Fender reverb amps

[@matthieusix3201]

@@samConnellchannel that's amazing. i was not excpecting that much gear. the tone is incredible, can't found any guitarist having that so particular tone. thanks for the response

[@jimjam8949]

Brilliant album. Still listen to it sometimes from beginning to end.

[@thefeelcompany]

A song to point out you are actually alive. Run with it. Song n all.

[@barrymacdonald1820]

Squire making that greisch speak absolutely amazing

[@73BigMC]

Utter brilliance from the best band of that era. Superb drumming, obv, but the folk roots of the SR really came through too.

[@perryhunter3123]

That was the music of the Manchester I loved, and always will.

[@CAMMYSINCLAIR]

One of the best invisible bongo players in the business.

[@richardtromans6411]

Everyone thought getting Brown and Squire back together was the key...getting Reni back was the real key!

[@mrkipling2201]

Definitely. Best drummer in my opinion since Keith Moon.

[@PrestonDTLT]

@@mrkipling2201 Matt helders imo

[@kellyp3937]

Remember staying up late to watch this and in the words of tony Wilson “ this is Manchester we do things differently here”

[@neonelephant7110]

Follow the elephant! Love you all from Birmingham England!

[@user-bd2bh1cw3p]

Love the Stone since 1988❤

[@z00ts00t77]

The guy is the back with the hat on is legendary and almost certainly high as a kite on reefer.

[@henryparsnip]

Who is that?

[@joeoconnor5271]

henryparsnip cressa

[@YOYO-mx6ie]

z00ts00t77 he is a fellow jew

[@EclecticoIconoclasta]

He almost looks like the equivalent of the Monday´s Bez for this band

[@mrkipling2201]

Ian Brown-Vocals John Squire-Guitar Mani-Bass Reni-Drums, Backing vocals Cressa-Vibes That’s how it was listed!!

[@AndiRFauzi]

Reni absolutely stole the show. I believe he's got more screen time than Ian!

[@DoroteoVilla]

He was mad that he couldn’t be the lead singer. He whined to Hooky, who produced Elephant Stone, that he was a better singer than Ian Brown. Maybe he was but not a better front man.

[@lucasm3879]

When he first joined in the mid 80's he was the star of the band. He played with Pete Townsend for a charity gig and PT said he was one of the best he'd seen.

[@mykelc205]

They did it. They really did. Proud to this day.

[@69waveydavey]

Whenever I think of them, this is what I hear and see in my head. I watched this when it was first broadcast. I miss not only those times and the band but Tony Wilson big enough to admit he made a mistake RIP Mr Manchester.

[@User-jk8wq]

Love how Squire’s guitar sounds exactly the same as on the studio recording. If there was any doubt as to which of his guitars he used on the album version, I think this answers it. Long live the Gretsch Country Gentleman

[@snakedriver]

Don't think the gretsch is on the album much, producer wouldn't let him use it because it sounded muddy. Sure I read he used a strat mostly

[@User-jk8wq]

@@snakedriver I’m sure I read that he used the pink Strat for the janglier stuff like She Bangs the Drums and Resurrection, but the Gretsch for heavier parts like I Wanna Be Adored. Then again, who knows coz there’s dozens of overdubs and layers on most of the songs

[@Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55]

​@snakedriver you're right, the studio album is pretty much all strat

[@karmapolice6888]

So many legends in this video including Tony H. Wilson. Reni for me is the best drummer of all time. His effortless command of the kit is mesmerising, and the sound is pure wonder and awe.

[@Rehash84]

Have you heard Phil Collins on Selling England by the Pound? Different league. Perfectly accomplished drummer though Reni is, he's playing some very basic stuff in comparison.

[@ianclarke9192]

This is pop perfection ❤

[@wilfredwilde161]

Heard this album for the first time in 1990 in Bavaria adventure training in the army.A lad from Birmingham lent his tape to me .It was a religious experience let me tell you .Not one bad song on there.I can remember it like yesterday.

[@cdogensis6392]

Similar here - mate gave me a taped copy after I'd fallen in love with Elephant Stone. First listen I thought - pretty decent. Second listen I thought - actually really pretty good. Third listen - mind blown. As you say, not one bad track. I love a lot of music, but nothing ever came this close to perfection for me.

[@pddaniel8033]

such an amazing song from a brilliant (albeit too short lived)band!

[@JubeProductions]

Just perfect, jangly, early brit-pop. Reni just laying down that complex beat that set up the songs with such a groove. This is just brilliant.

[@heaveauhu1335]

This certainly ain’t Brit pop mate 😂😂😂

[@eugenemclemmont4045]

Madchester was coined around 1990 and the Mondays, if you have to tag it with anything. Back then though it was just Indie as were the Smiths in the 80`s ect.

[@stuartwray6175]

​@@heaveauhu1335 As much as Oasis and Blur were influenced by 'Madchester' he's not far off the mark. The Charlatans and Inspiral Carpets are also notable.

[@JubeProductions]

@@heaveauhu1335 it gave birth to Brit-pop invasion of the 90s. It was the start of it

[@laravelisbullschitt3281]

The Byrds invented this style in the 60s....

[@mountaingoat3012]

Photos within the album sleeve were taken at this filming. Cool 😎

[@cultureofcritique9735]

Christ man, Reni's drumming is something else.

[@toxic_badasss9656]

superb !!, great live version of a classic Stone Roses song and the guys look so young 🎶🎶🎶❤️

[@drstevie]

They really were THAT GOOD !!! :)

[@dominicstockton7102]

New favourite band

[@mikethompson5549]

Just the guitars is enough for me. Drums and vocals make it even better. Unbelievable band. Saw them Spike Island. Atmospheric hazy..

[@0207gatecrash]

perfection

[@marcelofabiogouveianogueira]

Amazing... one of the greatest bands of all times!!!

[@JT-cf7dq]

Great Band!

[@fossilmatic]

Compare this to how any other chart band looked in 1988. I was desperately looking for good new guitar music. I read reviews for The Electric Boys and The Stone Roses. One was the beginning of the future, the other the end of the past.

[@danielconnolly8565]

Watched it as it happened. Still get chills.

[@vincentbarbes7672]

amazing! RIP Tony Wilson

[@TheIkaraCult]

Mani, Reni and Squire... absolute magnificence.

[@richardholliday6651]

Reni drumming is such a perfect example of a creature in its natural habitat, he should have David Attenborough narrating when he plays.

[@Aceofwands688]

Couldn't have put it better.

[@hazysativa3045]

I never knew playing a rack mount delay could be so fun...