The Story of Ny'alotha, The Waking City [Lore]

[@lordsetarurare]

his defeat being one of his visions would make a lot os sense, make them think they won, let them deal with the Banshee queen the the threat she poses, the enemy of light and void, then when we think all is done Azeroth her self awakens as a Void Titan.

[@akirasho962]

Let's hope it's like that - I really wished for a black empire expansion (where we can play as servants of the old god or rebellion? Since horde and alliance are working together most of the time anyways)

[@beerdrinker1486]

What if he let us "kill" his body on purpose so his mind can occupy our body, like the titans occupied the bodies of the keepers after sargaras killed them, so he can travel with us to the shadowlands and spread his corruption there.

[@akirasho962]

@@CB-nz7be yeah true ;) let me keep my hopes until it's over !

[@emetsalt2678]

you guys are giving blizzard's writing too muh credit lul the story was mediocre deal with it

[@DisemboweII]

@@emetsalt2678 Story was legit trash, they're all about the pick-up-and-play EZ VILLAINS now, don't expect another Illidan or Arthas. Now players just shit on Old Gods like they ain't shit. All of the original writing talent has long gone.

[@MysticZefer]

This should've been a 2 month Patch, where every week a new zone is corrupted by N'zoth. Eventually you are forced to strike at his heart as the black empire grows. With the release of the raid after 8 new corrupted zones. Maybe a few corrupted dungeons would've been cool too... The ending should've been N'zoth killing everyone on Azeroth and we all awake in the Maw in the Shadowlands...

[@EmilKlingberg]

And so nobody would complete the end raid, since your character would be useless for a year....

[@HavocHounds1988]

@@EmilKlingberg According to Ion, players that die in Ny'alotha cannonically would be dead for good. Possibly not even going to the Shadowlands because it's an entirely different plane of existence than that of the Great Dark Beyond.

[@zacharyortopan5645]

OMG YES I WOULD HAVE LOVED THAT!

[@cainabel6356]

@@HavocHounds1988 Ion says a lot of thins that do not hold water.

[@magnuscarlsson9969]

Honestly they should just had done the battle for Azeroth campaign differently. After the loss at Battle for Dazar'alor Sylvanas should had lost some grip on the horde. Sylvanas whould then made a deal with Azshara, when she noticed other leaders questioning her rule. Then we whould have no Nazjatar... instead we whould get the return of Thrall and Saurfang and ofcourse rescue Baine. In a act of desperation Sylvanas launches a attack on Thunder Bluff making the horde playerbase unite against Sylvanas(and one of the emerald nightmare dreams come true). But Instead of Siege of Orgrimmar 2.0 we whould get remade zones; Mulgore, Barrens and Durotar with some campaign stories and a raid leading up to Saurfang challenging Sylvanas at the gates of Orgrimmar. Sylvanas then spills the beans and flees. In the 8.3 patch, instead of N'zoth we whould end the expansion with Azshara invading and launching a massive attack on Azeroth, ending with a massive Naga raid on Stormwind. Essencialy ending BfA with a invitation from Azshara to her domain. Then instead of Shadowlands we whould get a whole new expansion called Rise of Azshara. Then they could really had made a better job at fleshing out the Wrathion stuff, given us a more indepth Nazjatar with properly fleshed out zones around it. If Rise of Azshara whould then have a N'zoth final boss they could properly fleshed it out with more then one patch.

[@mattflub]

What if NZoth's corruption was so powerful that it broke the fourth wall and corrupted the animation and story budget so that's why the ending cinimatic sucked.

[@bonefetcherbrimley7740]

I dunno man, I loved it.

[@bonefetcherbrimley7740]

I don't know, I think it was pretty baller! But then again, I just can't bring myself to actually care about N'zoth or the old gods, and thus didn't care when the events of the cinematic happened.

[@bonefetcherbrimley7740]

And I just realized I replied to you two months ago. My bad, ignore my previous comment.

[@shubwub_]

@super batarang The Activision Blizzard merger was 13 years ago, stop acting like they're still 2 separate entities. It's not that Activision did X or Blizzard did Y. This is entirely the fault of Acitivision Blizzard, the Blizzard of 13 years ago died 13 years ago.

[@sarysa]

We true believers who never removed N'Zoth's eye will bring him back...in two to three expansions.

[@HavocHounds1988]

Doubtful that it's us, but there is someone I have a theory will do just that. It was her purpose from her creation.

[@HavocHounds1988]

We do get our own whispers in the raid I've noticed, which is awesome. Things like "Topple my underlings, assume their place at my side" and "All eyes are opened, yours were the first."

[@kevinsullivan5091]

@@HavocHounds1988 Dont certain npcs still speak of whispers after his fall?

[@HavocHounds1988]

@@kevinsullivan5091 I believe so from what I've seen that was data mined.

[@sarysa]

@@HavocHounds1988 In all honesty, I thought so as well...she's definitely a lingering plot thread, and N'Zoth wouldn't have released her without a purpose.

[@DarkDesperado25]

For such a smart old god, letting a prisoner keep the key to his defeat was a bit of an oppsie by N'zoth, or part of a clever plan... Not sure the writers know which yet

[@jtr7377]

N'Zoth: "Ny'alotha was only a setback!"* *Just as planned(?)

[@tiny_tony_gaming4326]

@@jtr7377 well he did leave roots of corruption on the emerald dream, and that is aparently conected to ardenweald in the shadowlands, woulld not be surprised to see him back.

[@jtr7377]

@@tiny_tony_gaming4326 I hope so, killing him off like this feels like wasted potential.

[@krel7160]

@@jtr7377 I can hear Warhammer fans crying in the distance, but also sharing the solidarity of being disappointed by terrible writing. But truly, it was *just as planned.*

[@jamu8060]

Krel Dear god yes! It’s basically that lol

[@vampyricremnent]

Have you heard the tale of Lord N'zoth the Pointless?

[@MPCrayon]

The Remnent he’s more sphere like

[@nickc6374]

It is not a story activision-blizzard is likely to tell you

[@Codexter1]

@@nickc6374 he was a old god so powerfull that he could be hyped up 4 expacs and then die in one patch

[@user-uq4gr5nl5o]

@@Codexter1 He wasn't just hyped, he did a lot of shit from behind the scenes during those 4 expacs.

[@DiscusvissenRocken]

maybe he should have stuck to playing behind the scenes...way more menacing than what we have now...rekt in one patch by a final flash -.- talk about anticlimatic -.-

[@CubeMasterChris]

So you finna tell me that N'zoth's dragon pet gave us a FULL expansion, but N'zoth himself gives us 1 questline and a raid? Bruh

[@MysticZefer]

Apparently lmao.

[@iHaveGrudgeAgainstUT]

Activision Blizzard

[@jamieweir645]

they done my boy extra dirty! Shamefull shit blizzard ;(

[@EmilKlingberg]

I think this is a bad comparison, although i do agree that Nyalotha should have been an entire expansion. In most fact and fiction stories, beings of influence and corruption gain most of their power from whom they can corrupt. Deathwing may have been the most powerful physical being on Azeroth, but his mind was weaker than N'zoth's. And so he became the weapon in which N'zoth used to wage his war on Azeroth. N'zoth is the type of being that needs other more powerful beings that can execute his will.

[@marijanspasenovski362]

@@EmilKlingberg The dude is big as few zones, tell me how is there anything physically more powerful than him aside from other old gods or Sargeras?

[@arthurtrebuchet8732]

love when you said he cant barely corrupt 2 zones, but deathwing destroyed azeroth

[@mikeg5039]

At blizzard during production: “How do we kill this end boss?” “Giant spirit ball lazer beam again?” “Genius!”

[@Riftimmortal]

"How does this guy come up with this stuff?!" *Applause* "It couldn't possibly backfire or disappoint the player base in any way." *Applause Continues*

[@luuxii]

"Whoever first came up with the re-usable laser concept was a genious!" "Give the man a raise!" "Infinite solution!" "Thank god for GoT season 8 for an example how to drive years of developement into the ground within few moments!"

[@zacharyortopan5645]

“Thank goodness for this Giant lasers never get old!” “ this Will surely make them forget about that giant blade in the planet “ “Bravo!”

[@Riftimmortal]

@@zacharyortopan5645 "What if we had the giant blade also shoot giant lasers?" "Whoa, let's not get crazy here"

[@noahczomski8882]

Special....beam.....cannnooooooon!!!

[@ChatBot1337]

And here it is. The heart of the Black Empire. And pew pew pew it's dead and you win.

[@JoyDaz00]

Satan is mocking you people, through games. Wake up while ye can, time is at hand. JESUS is returning to harvest the wheat. I was an atheist in 2019, I know what I am talking about, God revealed me the lies of Satan(angel of the botomless pit), which is the father of lies and deceit, Satan is not a red mosnter in hell, Satan is a spirit, like all the other fallen angels(demons). Hell was made by God to punish Satan and his corrupted angels. God revealed himself to me His Truth. Who has ears to hear, shall hear. Humble thyself, for pride comes before destruction. Do God's Will or perish, for this is what Satan tells to the sheeple: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law".

[@vaperking1503]

@@JoyDaz00 Fucking Lunatic...

[@JoyDaz00]

@@vaperking1503 Satan is mocking you people, through games. Wake up while ye can, time is at hand. JESUS is returning to harvest the wheat. I was an atheist in 2019, I know what I am talking about, God revealed me the lies of Satan(angel of the botomless pit), which is the father of lies and deceit, Satan is not a red mosnter in hell, Satan is a spirit, like all the other fallen angels(demons). Hell was made by God to punish Satan and his corrupted angels. God revealed himself to me His Truth. Who has ears to hear, shall hear. Humble thyself, for pride comes before destruction. Do God's Will or perish, for this is what Satan tells to the sheeple: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law".

[@Tazdingoyahahahahaha]

Truth In Plain Sight No, I’d rather perish into an infinite void than exist eternally in Heaven or Hell thank you very much

[@JoyDaz00]

@@Tazdingoyahahahahaha God's Kingdom will be on earth, we will be able to be with all kinds of animals(sharks/lions/etc), there will be no more pain, lies, death, sin, or corruption, we will have a glorofied immortal body like Adam and Eve had in the beginning, before the curse of God upon mankind, as a punishment. Heaven is not a boring white place full of clouds, heaven is this life but 10x better, and God even says that no one can even imagine what he has prepared for the elect.

[@epicfail3167]

Ah yes, Nyalotha, home of the ancient all-powerful old gods, never before unleashed like N'zoth. The same old gods that wreaked havoc for millenia, corrupting countless lives. The most powerful enemy ever encountered. Pew pew he ded

[@DrApplezman]

I love that magni calls the player a child of azeroth when there are more than one playable race that is a newcomer where the player character would have been born on another world.

[@FatalHog]

Eh, he could mean it as a figure of speech.

[@jase_allen]

Children you adopt are still considered your children.

[@austinjacques6913]

No matter the race Azeroth is the players home now

[@chickencrusade3886]

@@jase_allen big fat thumbs up for you

[@popdartan7986]

#racist

[@TheClarkBark]

Ugh, disappointed would be an understatement. I’ve been looking to a expansion dedicated to Azshara’s return and the one dedicated to N’Zoth for years, and this is what we get. I think this expansion killed any excitement I have for lore moments anymore. Clearly the people making the game have no love for its story and lore.

[@ninaloveray]

Well Azshara is still out there

[@leeallen5132]

I mean, in the WoW universe as a whole, the old gods are pretty small fish. The void isn't defeated yet, all the madness etc that the old gods bring is still around

[@markus2584]

Yea, it was fine before because we thought we had something to look forward to. now its just "Is this it? is this what i've been waiting for?"

[@parafoxl7619]

I no longer Play the game...Kind of glad at this Point since Old Gods were my absolute favourite Thing in the game lore and this patch really did them dirty...so thank you even more Nobbel for letting me partake in the Raids Story of my favoourite wow-lore even if I'm not playing!

[@quillsnwhiskers]

7:27 ”Recommendation: Proceed with caution.” *random Nelf proceeds to die*

[@benjamingrant6203]

Lol when Magni said We don't do caution at the same time the random nelf died i died inside

[@quillsnwhiskers]

@@benjamingrant6203 It was like right after, but who's checking...

[@archdruidbookwalter951]

he did not proceed with caution

[@RRRanTV]

*Ny'alotha, The Waking City* - long long time ago, when Sauron went into retirement, N'Zoth took over...

[@lloydthehedgehogirving6049]

Of equal power? They might not be...

[@dusek1990]

Magni: She is Safe now! Me: The freaken Sword is still in her!!

[@arkking552]

Hopefully we can do something about that in War Within

[@lolosh99]

For me the raid ended with the carapace of N’zoth. N’zoth the corrupter fight never happened.

[@MysticZefer]

forreal....

[@MPCrayon]

Forreal...

[@mechanicobra]

As far as I'm concerned this expansion ended with 8.2 and the end of the war.

[@loreaver3882]

Agreed

[@JohnDoe-vn1we]

Stupid weeb.

[@twoac]

Can confirm n'zoth is still out there - had a sadistic desire to do an island expedition last night

[@GoadedGoblin]

Took me forever to find a story-oriented version of the Raid. Thank you for this!

[@monsteratemehcookie]

This raid instance… feels like playing StarCraft and Diablo and Warcraft all at the same time.

[@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind]

Darin DePaul really is crazy talented.. being able to N'Zoth, Blackhand, Reinhard, that Apex guy and so so many more.

[@MPCrayon]

Solving the Zandalari’s blood troll problem for them? Zul’dazar under the better leadership of Talanji? Azshara freed in Ny’alotha? N’Zoth potentially wanting this outcome? Pfft, my night elf warrior will stay in bed next time

[@alexl8864]

I usually hate commentary with video game...videos...but the way you do it I really enjoy. Thank you for your hard work in creating this video. This video made it sooooo much easier for me to figure out what is going on, and in an entertaining way without all the overlapping dialogue. It has reignited my interest in the story of WoW and is the video I subscribed to your channel on.

[@dreenarmookington2240]

Another Sunday evening, another Nobbel vid to sleep to

[@baileygregg6567]

If you can sleep through the ads Maybe😹

[@tristamfs3542]

Bailey Gregg theres literally barely any ads tf unon

[@baileygregg6567]

@@tristamfs3542 well I love him enough to complain about it. In my opinion you should be paid enough to not even have to get ads. Look at the company he has to put up with to put out things about their art

[@jamieweir645]

@@baileygregg6567 pro tip, skip adds to last 5 seconds or so of video, let it play an end, press replay, easy life. Make sure auto-play is off. Works every time lol

[@matheusmterra]

I defense of the story of the “why only now?”, well... Mother was the one who discovered how to focus the Forge of Origination’s power to kill only the old god without killing the planet, and ever since the Titans were killed off the facility Mother was in charge of has been isolated and her research kept going. Additionally the Chamber of the Heart was hidden away until Sargeras stabbed Azeroth, so all the pieces that were required to tune the Forge of Origination and the Engine of Nalak to this “surgical scalpel” were not available in the time of the Titans. So this was legit the first time ever in which an Old God could be killed without opening another Well of Eternity level of wound on the planet, so in that sense I think the writing was very consistent with the previous lore. Although I do agree that it felt rushed. In my humble opinion, the Black Empire should have been its own expansion, maybe with revamp of many zones in a level similar to Cataclysm. At least the raid was really good and visually impressive, really sold the idea of this massive god the size of a continent and the terror it represents.

[@dannyjames8894]

Agreed

[@anneselby2293]

I agree, for what it's worth

[@Yanchea]

Nobbel does NOT sound excited at all, which is how I feel about this patch as well..

[@Meagreee]

You can tell? With his extremely forced "gotta sound at least slightly cool" voice? I'd believe you if he sounded at all genuine.

[@anneselby2293]

He's not exactly an impartial commentator is he? Sounds so bored.

[@TheGoldenKing20]

TFW you realize Il'gonoth and his whispers are more interesting than N'zoth...

[@endofexistence2149]

Ily'gonoth is N'zoth whispering

[@TheGoldenKing20]

@@endofexistence2149 No, he serves N'zoth, but he's his own entity. He refers to N'zoth in the second person during the Emerald Nightmare raid.

[@dangeroussecondaccount893]

End Of Existence you would know

[@TheBeastr]

He really looks like Kil'jaeden with a new skin

[@JoyDaz00]

Satan is mocking you people, through games. Wake up while ye can, time is at hand. JESUS is returning to harvest the wheat. I was an atheist in 2019, I know what I am talking about, God revealed me the lies of Satan(angel of the botomless pit), which is the father of lies and deceit, Satan is not a red mosnter in hell, Satan is a spirit, like all the other fallen angels(demons). Hell was made by God to punish Satan and his corrupted angels. God revealed himself to me His Truth. Who has ears to hear, shall hear. Humble thyself, for pride comes before destruction. Do God's Will or perish, for this is what Satan tells to the sheeple: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law".

[@gerardodeluna9553]

I really hope the ending of the raid is just another dream. I dont mind using the forges cause it's about time they do something with it but they should of finished the ending better

[@micahskaret]

I don't think Il'gynoth should be dead, his whispers have been so fun to talk about.

[@jtr7377]

N'Zoth: "Insolent whelpling! You desecrate that which you were bred to serve!" Wrathion: "Okay, boomer" N'Zoth: *angry noises*

[@phajthoj]

Wrathion: you mad bro??

[@lloydthehedgehogirving6049]

N’Zoth: *Booms*

[@cherylborkowski5398]

23:34 wow n'zoth sounds ferocious and mabey in a little pain , can the old gods even feel pain ?

[@fumarc4501]

Shame this was only a raid. I would have liked to explore this world beyond the looking glass.

[@VoiceOfTheEmperor]

I saw a meme where Prince had photoshopped red eyes. And he looked JUST like Wrathion...I can't un-see it...

[@samtemdo8]

Prince?

[@Kylora2112]

@@samtemdo8 The musician dude; Prince Rodgers Nelson.

[@MPCrayon]

ReconCrusader Why? 😂😂

[@DrCornelius]

The black Prince indeed

[@DoctorSinister1987]

Great video Nobbel, well narrated and well edited. Thanks to Squshy for sharing his raid footage. Yes, I have to wonder if N'Zoth is actually dead. This patch really did not do him anywhere near enough justice. Think of the whole deathwing and N'Zoth comparison as that moment in the wizard of Oz where the tiny little wizard is revealed behind the curtain!

[@anthonyyao7351]

Make a video raid with a lore story. Keep on touch mate, your'e the best story teller. Since 8 years i never played wow it feels nostalgic to watch people going for raids. Keep up Mr. Storyteller im gonna watch all lores you got.

[@GC1CEO]

I admit N'zoth's stuff was a bit underwhelming -- I was hoping for an entire expansion around N'zoth after BFA -- before Shadowlands got announced.

[@Pdudi]

I lost every respect for Blizzard. The old gods were always one of my favorite threads to Azeroth and now just a side note in the game.

[@MPCrayon]

Pdudi wait till future expansions dude

[@gamefan987]

@@MPCrayon did you just say "wait at least 2 years, maybe more for possible retcon?"

[@Pdudi]

@@gamefan987 Thanks man. Thats the point. N'Zoth had his chance for a good implementation into the story and game. And they just made him "the weakest" and finished it with a Raid patch.

[@metalllich3493]

Sorry, but Old Gods suck and always sucked

[@C0rnvillain]

They were only heralds of the void lords.

[@jd_27]

Old Gods should be put back in their prison, not killed.

[@constipation4650]

Was rather a disappointing use of this city that was teased 4+ expansions ago. Deadass Deathwing, a minion of N'zoth gave us something better than whatever this is. GG Blizzard.

[@Deathflare56]

They have such potential to involve Yogg'Saron the "God of Death" in the Shadowlands. Though given how this patch ended, that's something that will never be considered by the devs. Shame.

[@stormblade3408]

F to *BOW DOWN BEFORE THE GOD OF DEATH*

[@Auroche]

I really hope it's just one of his visions, cause giving us the childrens book of "No, you can't be corrupted, you're a good guy!" then overpowered with strong energy is such a bullshit ending to what could be an amazing villian.

[@wowlfu]

I think the point is that N'zoth is better at manipulating and controlling other's actions. That must be the reason why Deathwing and Azshara gave us so much more trouble than the old god himself. As soon as we discovered how to counter his mind controlling (his strongest power) he was no match for us. Shame we didn't get to see more from the black empire, though.

[@odst123451]

Technically we only beat Azshara. The Dragon Soul and Aspects beat DW. The Heart of Azeroth and Titan tech beat N’zoth.

[@Mysterialic]

Say what you will with the quality of this questline but that N'zoth voice gave me tingles.

[@MPCrayon]

They do a lot of good stuff here

[@markus2584]

Blizz have always done voices so god damn good My morning alarm is Yogg'Sarons screams 10/10 alarm. would shit my pants in bed again

[@Emcron]

so let me get this straight: Sargeras stabs Azeroth -> Azerite bleeds out -> we get the Heart of Azeroth -> Azshara actually uses it to free N'Zoth so she can kill him -> we end up using it to kamehameha N'Zoth into oblivion?

[@Sky_Marshal]

Pretty much. Magni also says Azeroth is healed an dont feel the pain anymore, which makes me wonder; did he forget about that humongous sword sticking out of her?

[@windrunner9158]

@@Sky_Marshal "Azeroth is a nascent titan, or world-soul, growing within the core of the eponymous planet." - wowhead. Azeroth can be healed even if the sword is still penetrating the planet. The world soul is like an unhatched chicken inside of an egg. The egg shell may be partially broken, but I believe that Aezeroth-- given that she is conscious of her existence(talks to magni, is scared of sargeras & void etc-- is ready to "hatch".

[@TheSkinken13]

Wait wait wait did aszhara just do an Allo Allo reference ? "Listen carefully I shall say this only once" if people have seen that show they will know it

[@gubbikiller]

that was where i had heard it before. thanks

[@macduncan7687]

With the new Dragonflight Nzoth lines and his lines after Wrathion's "defeat", it stands to be that he very much still is in the background influencing the story.

[@Nimezid]

CHAMPION FROM AZEROTH!!!please fetch me 5 racoon bums now

[@jd_27]

bear asses

[@greyworld6242]

The black emperor sounds like an awesome ass title. If N’zoth was defeated this lazily then imagine what we’ll got when we fight the void lords. Cause something tells me the next expansion is suck more than this one. Being Ra is suffering.

[@felixdesjardins4030]

Grey World I dont see any threat going further than a raid and some cutscenes, but they should probable get their lore right 🤣🤣

[@talisredstar1543]

I've been away from the game since beginning of BFA. But with shadowlands looming, I feel that old but familar call. That ache deep int he bones. The Calls to me, Do dare draw my sword one more time? Or have broken the chains completely? thanks again for the run down Nobbel87. You make it so hard to stay away.

[@davidfioravanti5765]

It should have ended like this: - Addicted to the massive amounts of azerite we've been collecting for him, Magni consumes all of it becoming corrupted by N'zoth. - We smack him and deal the final blow with the heart. - N'zoth escapes into shadowlands having made us kill our BFF and hurting azeroth-

[@100DexTeR001]

Quick question: what happened to the "we can't kill old gods or they'll destroy the planet like Y'shaarj almost did" part of the lore?

[@karalstonalexstine7939]

I think that's only cause they literally ripped that one old god out the planet.

[@CodinskiSchwartzando]

Yeah, what happened with Y’shaarj was a HUGE ASS TITAN reached down to Azeroth and grabbed the old god with his THICK, MEATY FINGERS and ripped the thing out of the ground like a goddamn daikon radish. This created the well of eternity, an enormous bleeding hole in the planet. With N’Zoth, the idea is that we burned the old god down to its roots using Azeroth’s own power, simultaneously destroying N’Zoth and healing the planet without creating a GAPING WELL OF GOD JUICE.

[@alihorda]

I think that part only matters if you kill the old God on azeroth, they are too deep rooted to azeroth. but nzoth "died" in some other pocket dimension?

[@xaoc6084]

hajas ádám That doesn’t make sense though, just because Nzoth died in a “pocket dimension” still means the physical manifestation and imprisoned body of the old god on Azeroth has been killed. The whole point of the old gods corruption to my knowledge was that they were all so deep rooted in Azeroth physically that killing them ruined the actual planet intrinsically and not just because of being ripped out.

[@alihorda]

@@xaoc6084 the whole point of this patch was he escaped to an other dimension, the waking city? his physical body was not on azeroth? unlike other old gods he was freed from the prison

[@xwingz13]

Us to N'zoth: YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!

[@mechanicobra]

All the more sad that preparing has kind of been his thing for the last 10k+ years lol

[@RudeReaper]

When the aqir speak, if you listen closely, u can hear someone ruffling a bag of chips in the background. A nice touch

[@stueyman2099]

Sad I missed playing this raid when it was live. The Old God lore ranks among my favorite that WoW offers.

[@kittykatstealer]

was the best raid I've played yet

[@sundaesprites]

i legit thought the title said "The Story f Ny'alotha, The Walking City [Lore]"

[@triples2745]

22:29 The noise you make when you stub your toe.

[@DayzhSniping]

What about the fact that nzoth says: "Complete the circle, open the way"

[@Thromash]

Do we have an actual reason for Chromie being in the Heart Chamber? She says she is EARLY. But don't worry the time will come soon. Has this passed already? If not, could be a hint at something coming? I mean when Chromie shows up, Timey Wimey stuff tends to happen.

[@backtrakk2121]

She's there for taking us back stronger after Shadowlands to fix the "oops we thought a vision was real" mistake people are making now...

[@Icepawthewolf]

@@backtrakk2121 This would make a bit more sense than..oh yeah old gods...all of them even though we only dealt with one this patch..yeah they're all gone after we 'kill' Nzoth.... I mean hey if it's more like we put the guy to sleep.. go to shadowlands become gods ourselves and then Chromie sends us back and we beat the ever living hell out of N'zoth for real then that's not so bad. Go to Shadowlands only to come back and find out oh hey that was all a vision... Old gods are still here Azeroth is in grave peril Old God expansion for real to follow afterlife then... yeah alright that works..I guess... and if not then idk anymore. Old Gods especially N'zoth are good at lying after all... how exactly do we know he's truly going to die... maybe Mythic will add something extra?

[@moonrazor2039]

LOL @ at people being cringe after Xanesh. Those blockers were hilarious for some reason.

[@andres_sciolli]

When cthun was way more difficult than nzoth.... great job blizzard

[@factbeaglesarebest]

I mean N’Zoth is akin to C’Thulu... the weakest in raw power of the old gods, does his damage through corruption and insanity... C’Thun is a far stronger old god than N’Zoth

[@QartveliMamakaci2000]

N'Zoth is the weakest of the 4 Old Gods that were sent to corrupt Azeroth, but that doesn't excuse how bad the raid was.. He deserved an expansion at least

[@sortedevaras]

The whole city should have just been a daily quest zone.

[@kish2810]

THE SUBTITLES ON THE WRATHION CINEMATIC. WHAT A GEM

[@apblolol]

the "naughty words blocker" made me laugh

[@MooseMoto7]

So much detail, so much interesting lore, and then straight up GOT Season 8 ending... sad :(

[@Pelagion98]

The writing staff actually believed that GOT S8 was masterfully done. And you can see the paralels.

[@pandanator6681]

Pelagion Is that true? Because if so then... my god.

[@killerkat2112]

That would explain how Wrathion got the Blade of the Black Empire in the cutscene during the raid. I do hope we see Azshara and Xal'atath again

[@museves]

I miss Ny'alotha

[@dawfydd]

If blizzard was really smart they had two ways to play this. One is to fake us out and rather than shadowlands the next expansion is THE BLACK EMPIRE, and have all reveals be fake gameplay infact shadowlands looks like adapted/reused assets so it could be lmao.. and have us test the systems of the new expansion in these cheap not finished zones while not showing us where we'll really end up. The other saving grace option is the black EMPIRE! comes after shadowlands.. we spend the whole expansion in the shadowlands n'zoth didn't die but escaped in the dagger to rebuild slowly this time, and raises the black empire as a place on the planet and for some reason we can't speak with anyone at current timeline while in the shadowlands from outside of it.. so the secret keeps kept until the time is right, it'd need to be less secret that way.

[@Archon3960]

I think bringing Yogg and C'thun back _with_ N'Zoth would be an even smarter move... :)

[@sesshomiroth9709]

I feel like a simple small scene after it all with Xalatath sticking in the ground and some random person picking it up n walking away would fixed alot if issues. Maybe even have the eye on the black blade turn into one of nzoths eyes n start laughing would of been a nice touch

[@Dracorientalis]

Not the weakest. That's Azshara's opinion (a believe that ultimately leads her believe she could kill him, ultimatley serving N'Zoth plan even more), N'zoth was second to Y'shaarj in truth but was licking his wounds from a battle with y'Shaarj when the titans came back to "rid the infection"

[@TheAquaAuthor]

Well, if you do think more about it, N'zoth has been building along with everything else happening in BFA. It started to really show around 8.2, When the deal with Azshara was made.

[@Hunfrid91]

after watching and dwelling on the events that happened in this raid, the best outcome would be that N'zoth is pulling a killer bee from Naruto and hiding in the dagger, and is just waiting to pop back out and reform himself. Ogmots journal may make more sense if one of its pages is referring to nzoth as wrathion. "bound by the throne? no, free, FREE!" nzoth was chained at the seat of his empire which would make it his throne

[@GrobariNBGD1970]

Plot idea: Untill we are in Shadowlands meanwhile N’zoth establish Black Empire on Azeroth. This would be good time for Blizzard to update old zones and make them useful. Also make no fly zone for whole Azeroth, skyboxes and exploring black empire. In the end of expansion we will go into real Ny’lotha(not this one).

[@laurenford3951]

I love your dark and mysterious voice for this video

[@Koush88]

makes sense to me n'zoth greatest power was in his mighty servants and corrupting more to his will, lucky for us he was never released while deathwing was alive. plus for the titans to put all these old gods in cages and keep them there starving i would not expect them to be fully powered up when released. the climax that people wanted from n'zoth is something they built in there heads since story wise i see him more like a fox in a ever shrinking corner who was left no choice but to try an assault us with what ever he had left. the content we got from him was more than c'thun more than yogg saron and more than the sha, individually ofcourse, yet he is the weakest of them fair enough tho he is unleashed, i would consider n'zoth unleashed to be as equal in power to yogg saron imprisoned.

[@dulikon6300]

Thank you for that. Cause it shows that it is not all about the short end cinematic - the end of the Story is the whole raid. Again, thank you for showing that off!!!

[@tylerg213]

Patch is called visions of N’Zoth. What if the raid was a lie. N’Zoth isn’t dead he just wants us to think he is.

[@zoomin9397]

the “champion” thing was the most stupid thing about this expansion imo

[@gautamvaze1101]

Your accent is awesome. Love the vids!

[@BattleF08]

Seems pretty clear that the Titans just didn't know anything about the Old Gods. They tried to kill one, and almost killed Azeroth. And still left the lands tainted with its essence. From that perspective, imprisoning them and their corruption forever makes sense. Sure, it didn't work. And for us it seems obvious why, now. But unlike us, the Titans knew next to nothing about them. Also, unlike the others, N'Zoth was not nestled in Azeroth, but in another realm. So his destruction leaves no wound.

[@mechanicobra]

Yeah except the titans had been wiping them out for eons prior to even finding Azeroth, and the keepers have been studying them since they imprisoned them. Heck most of the info we have on the Old Gods in the game is provided by the keepers and their allies. And Wrathion who somehow learned more about them in like 5 years than the Keepers and Titans ever did through all of existence. And if the only reason Y'shaarj tainted the land upon his death was because he was literally ripped from the world, then maybe they could have, I don't know, had the keepers use the delete button we use on N'zoth themselves instead of just putting the tentacle bois in boxes and thinking that was good enough. Not to mention C'thun and Yog got retconned to death, literally. Meaning the keepers could have just poked them with pointy things until they died. Heck, the only reason they even killed Y'shaarj personally is because the Old Gods were beating the pants off of the Titanforged. And if N'zoth was in another realm then how did the titans imprison him beneath the sea. Where we know for a fact he was until he wasn't anymore because Blizzard takes to consistency like a cat to water. And if the Old Gods are supposedly on the other side of a veil on an already corrupted Azeroth then why not just, you know, use that one to bring about their Void Titan? Even if it does make sense in the case of the canon, the retcons and just poor handling of it make for an honestly pathetic end for the last big lore villain WoW had. Until Sargeras inevitably breaks free or we learn something about the Void Lords beyond 'they exist and they made the Old Gods'.

[@andrewaiello6110]

I think that when we healed A zeroth, she purged herself of the Old God corruption. It was stated that the titan spirit is more powerful than even Sargaras.

[@owendoll2983]

Whoever voiced N’Zoth GOT that paycheck

[@KAIbanezA7X]

Fantastic upload as always, Nobble! Hopefully get to game with you again sometime :)

[@EloquentTroll]

My biggest question is who did getting rid of N'Zoth heal Azeroth when she was wounded by a big ass sword STILL STICKING OUT OF SILITHIS!!!

[@OFFICIAL-H-RUBBER]

Catching up with the lore moment: Oh no Ra-Den what have they done to you my brother!?

[@poundsofslothcigars]

Why do games fail to understand how the eldergods work? They always make them super evil and planning one step after the small races. When true Elder gods see us as moot either way.

[@Milacs123]

I think that everything that went down after N'zoth was released from his prison was just a vision. When the final cinematic plays and we see the outside shot, his tentacles just puff away, instead of collapsing, or at least getting burned away by the beam like everything else, as if they weren't even real in the first place. If N'zoth was fully aware of Azshara's plans from the very beginning he must have known that Sylvanas is planning tear a rift between the two lands, and that we, the players would follow her there to take revange, away from Azeroth. If he started corrupting everything and destroying the world right away after he was released, we would have stayed there and fight against him, with full power. But now that we think we defeated him, and probably got rid of the Hearth of Azeroth at the end of the expansion and going to leave the world, there will be nothing in his way anymore. He now knows our plan of defense in case if he actually emerged and knows where to strike to stop it, and whom to get rid of first. If he was able to make us believe that we were figthing against Wrathion, why couldn't he make us believe that we were fighting against him? If something similar wasn't Blizzards plan, then they could at least save N'zoth this way. All those years of build up just for one lackluster patch (at least story wise) with two zones being invaded here and there seems like a waste and rushed to me. Even Deathwing was a bigger threat than him, and he was supposed to be his puppet.

[@zyella277]

id want to believe that,but the writers arent anywhere near clever enough for that

[@tzoanast1061]

First of all I think it was a vision as well but I gotta say, I DONT get how people say "all those years of build-up", he has been doing shit since Cata and even WOTLK and even earlier, he has been moving things since AGES, how are people only now noticing his moves? Also Deathwing having more of a prescense actually makes sense, Deathwing has strength, A LOT of strength, thats what he relied on, Nzoth is the exact opposite, in the Shadows scheming.

[@pandanator6681]

Ádám Ördögh it would wild if Blizzard actually does something like that, but let’s be real; it ain’t gonna happen. N’zoth went out like a punk-bitch and that’s just how it is, as disappointing as that may be.

[@multivitamin425]

I havent played BFA, but this raid looks magnificent, I love the "living and breathing" raids/dungeons where you actually navigating through some place and not just jumping from boss to boss

[@Aronim1980]

Thanks Nobbel, great Work, as always

[@Danielerrden]

I don't think this is the last time we see old octoboss. Remember his ability to fuck with your head is without equal. We fought azshara in the eternal palace in nzoths presence and he is still weakened when we fought him being imprisoned for so long. I think he got in our heads and sent us on this journey to "kill" him. Now that we think he's dead he can rebuild his strength and then hit us with full power. Whatever his plan and the voidlords plan are he has time now to plan and build toward it. And now with us going to the shadow lands and some players having the gift of nzoth the void may have a presence there now just like it has a presence in the seat of the titans because of us. This is a small taste I think the full course will be coming later

[@nesto2947]

When they going to finally give heros of the storm a old god announcer? They sound so cool

[@MrMango331]

N'zoth was the most underwhelming thing they ever made. They better take it back and say "all of this was just an illusion while N'zoth actually killed the world"

[@neusapacheco5793]

What if we messed up with wrathion using the blade to break open the carapass and was suppose to use it at the heart

[@Liamjack96]

Your describing of Drest'agath is amazing I'm in love with you.

[@seankkg]

"Maybe someone should have taken the time and tell him the Titans are back." Oof.

[@ContemporaryCompendium]

Such a missed opportunity Blizz let slip through their fingers. Nyalotha should've been an xpac unto itself.

[@terrorbladetai]

another fantastic video nobbel!

[@Twinrehz]

"With a bit of a mind twist you're into the time slip!"

[@pyromike7237]

I loved everything about this raid except for the ending cinematic

[@strandedgeek]

I wonder if our Knifu Xal will play a role with the Void Elves, like she starts talking/whispering to Alleria either to help or corrupt her? Ooh that also just gave me some shiping ideas.