The Story of Thaldraszus [Lore]

[@TheMonk3613]

I just did the feels like the first time quest on my Pandaren Monk today. Sent me back to the wandering isle. I was able to escape and run around a bit. The new players saw me and were super confused. It was great. 10/10 quest.

[@fallhayv8470]

lucky you, mine bugged out. It has sent me to Wandering isle but stopped mid-starting cutscene and sent me to gates of Stormwind. The disconnected me. Then sent me back to Thaldrazus. I appreciate the idea. I hate the bugs. Tried to restart the quest, same thing happened each time. Dunno, mey be it has been tied to my Legion monk campain?... It is finished and order hall is Wandering isle.

[@TheMonk3613]

@@fallhayv8470 I had the legion campaign done on my Monk. I don't know, maybe bad luck?

[@TheToneBender]

Wait, you *actually* get sent to the beginning are? That's not just instanced with the "players" being actually NPC's?

[@grennbalze]

I saw screenshots of the murlock timeline, so i knew it was coming. Was a legit “wow” moment when we went to the black empire. The main story was phenomenal throughout with Alexstraza focusing on the eggs, but still showing she cared about the black flight. The bickering between Wrathion and Sabellion. The blue flight coming together. The crazy time travel shenanigans. And most of the characters felt genuine and believable.

[@brat6969]

Was watching your Valdrakken stream and saw that's it's like 10 years you've been doing lore. I don't play anymore, but always watch your content. Thanks so much from Australia, and congratulations on a decade giving us *WHAT WE NEEEEEED*

[@razorback6416]

The dragon that appeared from one of the time portals is called Aeondormu, which is similliar to the infinite dragon Aeonus we fought in tbc, in black morass.

[@ethgratz2186]

I really wish all the rooms you find with books and scrolls had ones you could read. I also think there should be a legit library in the game and a npc named Nobbel that tells stories.

[@Ali-rb1mq]

That truely is a great idea. Besides central city and race libraries, small local random town and place ones should have random books and stories mostly usless local connected lore and stories and local history. Would be a cool addition. That really needs to be brought up to blizzard. Side quest ect could also be grown from them.

[@dantrethekid1539]

In the scarlet library dungeon, there were a bunch of books you could read that had a lot of lore.

[@EvLch3dd4r]

Omg when you spoke murloc I actually laughed audibly. Nice Level 70 ETC shout outs too

[@LibertyDino]

"Wholesome moments' Bruh, Nobbel, Chromie is pure evil like all gnomes are.

[@lelandwhitehead56]

Good thing she isn't a gnome then.

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@lelandwhitehead56 - Indeed, it's worse: she CHOOSES to be one! D:

[@harrisric128]

The original starting narrative flashback was a great touch👌🏾 I logged into to all of my alts just to do that quest 😂 and then went back on my main

[@SagittariusSisyphus]

Ultimately, Nozdormu has to turn into Murozond to allow his own defeat from us in Cataclysm. If Eternus is Infinite Chromie (which is subtlety hinted) then it means that even Chromie will have to recognize that this is the only way to preserve the timelines from shattering.

[@ASpaceOstrich]

One possible twist is that someone else could be Murozond. That's been done with a similar "see's the moment of his own death" paradox in Doctor Who. They didn't prevent the death from happening, but it was actually a body double. What I'm getting at here, is that Murozond could actually be Chromie or another dragon sacrificing themself for Nozdormu.

[@bc9554]

@@ASpaceOstrich won’t be chromie. Blizzard would never kill off the trans representation character

[@Cronoo]

These quests are friggin awesome, and Chromie's new models look so adorable! Always down to party with the Bronze

[@DanDanChair3427]

I can tell you had a lot of fun making this one.

[@brandonbutler7523]

calling it now.. chromie will be the next bronze aspect i can feel it

[@fallhayv8470]

Please no. I want more Nozdormu development. :C

[@hisokamorow6709]

I hope not.

[@almas4663]

@@fallhayv8470 Nozdormu is destined to be evil, and is probably gonna become corrupted at some point during the expansion, so Chromie will take his place at least for some time, to either find a way to save him, or if he'll be killed - replace him

[@fallhayv8470]

@@almas4663 oe they could pull out something crazy like Murozond isn't that bad, actually, and not really crazy. Or Chrome could sacrifice herself to save Nozdormu from becoming black and crazy. The latter option would be heartbreaking and totally nuts, but that is why I love it. Besides, even if they pull out Murozond I believe they will make him a final boss 2 expansions later, not now.

[@almas4663]

@@fallhayv8470 It's so weird for me to now realize that people call evil Nozdormu - Murozond. Lmao. Despite my fluent english, my native language is Russian, and in russian localization, an evil version of Nazdormu (Spelled with an "A") is known as Darnozmu

[@H240909]

Murloc timeline? I... Love... This... Expansion! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Starkiller2725]

This has to be the best part of any campaing, quest chain and literally anything i've done in this game. 11/10.

[@kyogery8927]

I know my comment is newer but I freaking love the voice actor that did Garrosh, such a amazing voice. So hearing him with other characters is awesome

[@fdgdfgdffdg345]

Kinda weird that Soridormi is just there being a passive character within the story. You would think that she would be taking a far more active role in what's going on since it concerns her husband

[@andrewrenshaw2741]

Generally female consorts don't so much in WoW until their male counterpart has passed.

[@jsmth99]

@@andrewrenshaw2741 I mean it works both ways. Alex's consort was not really impactful until he just died. Do we even know who was Ysera's?

[@DKHZStudio]

@@jsmth99 wasn't Ysera consort that dragon that is in the sunken temple? eranikus?

[@jsmth99]

@@DKHZStudio ah, right, you are correct. Well way to establish his relevance I guess.

[@lesgrosgainz]

​@@jsmth99Hmmm Krasus is probably the character that came back the more in all Warcraft books. I agree that his role in WotLK was limited though.

[@2starkiller]

The time magic brought my draenei back to Azuremyst Isle and since my character is boosted, the starter quest was still there and I picked it up before I was returned to the present time.

[@fallhayv8470]

Same happened for me on my panda shaman, who leveled on exiles reach

[@TK199999]

Anyone else notice that Neptulon was missing from Black Empire vs. Elemental Lords war? The others were there, the water elementals were there...but not the Tide Lord.

[@TheSpoegefugl]

I feel like Nozdormu in Dragonflight has gotten the same treatment as John Snow in season 8. Just 1 or 2 lines he repeats, and a few other stuff to put a little flavor in. "My vision remains clouded". You probably need some glasses there Nozzy-boy

[@cxfxcdude]

My homie Chromie being the most wholesome being in all Azeroth. Love them

[@barthcellos]

In a future patch focused on the infinites, would be cool to have the caverns of time dungeons in the m+ rotation

[@kostasrh9529]

Really doubtful for some. Many of those rely on in-dungeon timers that spawn add waves and those, much like Dalaran's Violet Hold dungeons cannot work om m+ without redesign. They are also not as fun mechanically. The Cataclysm ones sound cool though. And I believe the one with Thrall's origin could also work.

[@ASpaceOstrich]

I'm kind of amazed there hasn't been an expansion based entirely on the timeways yet. Not just alternate timelines, but focused on the whole Infinite dragonflight and the implied elemental plane of time. Awesome sandy environments and whatnot.

[@CrazyShepard]

I believe a smart move would be to have Chromie be responsible for creating the circumstances that creates Murazond and then subsequently her rise to Aspect will be coming to terms with that.

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@JennLove - You know who really needs some character development? Anachronos, Nozdormu's named heir.

[@StoicEver]

The pronunciation of the murlock areas was S tier.

[@aster4jaden]

I'm looking forward to your new Old God whispers Video!

[@anevilstripper6095]

What was it that restored the oathstone exactly? Chromie and the Infinite working together? Curious

[@ASpaceOstrich]

Resolving the current existential threat to the one true timeline. Getting Chromie back was the last big anomaly but we dealt with a bunch of other ones before that point.

[@danielcamara8647]

We know that the dragons, in order to restore Tyr, they need the discs that are lost in time, so...what if nozdormu knows that he has to shatter the timeways, so they can pin point the artifact location and find the discs, but he slowly fades into madness and hos sacrifice is to go mad and fullfil his destiny to restore Keeper Tyr

[@jsmth99]

That sounds really plausible tbh.

[@Anachronos97]

Here's me hoping that Anachronos will have a part to play, and in the event of Nozdormu's fall, will be crowned as the new aspect as his lore always suggested.

[@nakenmil]

Hot take: they will find a way to split Nozdormu, so that even when part of him becomes Moruzond and is killed, another part is with us or something.

[@Thromash]

Murloc Deathwing dinged me 70, just made it even better lol Also looking forward to your video about those whispers because there was more than one voice! 1 obvious but the other, it sounds familiar but can't place it.

[@sohkaswifteagle2604]

Chronormu will be the reason why Nozdormu become Moruzond. 1- all the oath where inactive EXCEPT the Bronze one 2- I mean the titan asked Nozdormu to maintain and respect the "sacred timeline" the one the titan chose as the "real" one. During that timeline we know the Nozdormu is bound to become Moruzond, the leader of a Dragonflight who want to free themself from the "sacred timeline" Chronormu just said that he'll search all timelines to find the one where Nozdormu won't become Moruzond. But by the definition of the "sacred timeline" this timeline where Nozdormu do not transform, is not the sacred timeline, meaning choosing it will break the oath of the bronze dragonflight and there for transform Nozdormu into Moruzond. Which is why Nozdormu is proud and will always be proud of Chronormu, since he will be the one triggering the final vision of the titans.

[@mokarokas-1727]

Okay, but how do we fit in the Old Gods corrupting Nozdormu into Murozond?

[@etain21918]

Old gods offer him a cookie That's my offer Or the more serious they corrupt chromie/soridormi who causes the corruption as a swap places by changing the past

[@cvanims]

Were the old gods that were whispering aware we were time travelers? Their words felt a little targeted, making it that much scarier. lmao

[@etain21918]

Apparently N'Zoth knew But I honestly can't remember where I saw that mentioned I think N'Zoth noticed you came from somewhere else, maybe felt a part of themself on you considering the N'yalotha raid and being a smart old god when it comes to that type of thing put two and two together The others don't know

[@cvanims]

@@etain21918 I really like that idea. Like, all this time we thought we killed him, but he's been preparing for our arrival for a millenia.

[@jinx17]

I really enjoyed the time fuckery quests in this zone, the one going to the starting zone surprised me a lot 😂

[@calebstearns5571]

so my main curiosity is, did the old gods recognize our adventurers?

[@warbosspapasmurf]

One of the lines: “I know what you will become” So probably yes

[@monkeysk8er33]

Funny enough, we still have our Gift of N'zoth buff (those that kept it) even now on live.

[@Heron11177]

As it is said, the Void can see through all possibilities, uncountable futures or just lies to fuel the madness brought by their influence. So I think it is possible that they could've seen their demise by the hands of the Titans and later by ours, but since it isn't a certain future they may have thought it wouldn't fulfill

[@monkeysk8er33]

@@Heron11177 Well it's 100% verified that the Old Gods live, plus all they are is just the Void equivalent of the Titan Keepers, and they're immensely more powerful than Titan Keepers are, so we have only seen a fraction of the Void's power. They are still the big bad of the Warcraft universe. More terrifying than Sargeras and the Legion, more terrifying than Zovaal and Death. We don't know who the First Ones are, or what they want, or if they're even still alive, but the Void has ALWAYS been our enemies. The only time we were "allied" with the Void, and I use allied loosely, is when we helped Xal'atath. But that wasn't us helping a friend, that was us being manipulated to do the Void's will, as we so often are. The Void accounts for all possibilities meaning they are the most dangerous threat, since most other Forces merely adhere to a single path. Remember that the Void has the Infinite Dragonflight on their side as well, as Infinite Dragons are seen working with the Old Gods, Void, and Deathwing. They have time travel powers, and plan for every possible outcome. They will win, it is inevitable. Until we stop Murozond, at least, which hopefully is this expansion.

[@ASpaceOstrich]

@@monkeysk8er33 Wait what?

[@pixiemix5895]

I feel like we are going to see Norzdormu become Murozond in the next patch

[@philippeblais8594]

18:12 Chromie: Our oathstone! It's restored! And invisible apparently.

[@AndyJP]

Did the dragons used to have talking animations with moving mouths or am I misremembering?

[@mokarokas-1727]

Yes, for Dragonflight they decided to stop animating the mouths.

[@Rakshiir]

This quest send my DK back to the starting zone next to the LK. That was an interesting moment, standing next to a new player DK :D The whole bronze questarc was interesting and funny at times (Thrallgulgulgul was awesome :D)

[@KamiPain75]

ngl chef I tear up with that Chromie cutscene.

[@animelytical8354]

I should probably start at the beginning, shouldn't I?

[@theHeritress]

Maybe. I had started with the blues going down XD didn't even notice till nobbel mentioned the previously" at the start of one of the videos that I was watching outta order

[@NeinDao]

could you make the bottom right logo smaller? its cowering some of the subtitles

[@Skye4008]

It is blocking his face-cam. Whenever you see that logo, the recording is from his stream

[@nealsandy8464]

The CC had me laughing pretty hard XD

[@petrameyer1121]

I also wondered: could Eternus be a future version of Chromie?

[@Leon-mk1wn]

Imagine WoW reached a time where dragons are almost extinct in the world that seeing one is a very rare sight to have

[@andrewrenshaw2741]

So like Game of Thrones

[@Leon-mk1wn]

@@andrewrenshaw2741 yeah kinda. Like no more Aspects of ea flight but only a direct ancestor of one remains like a great granddaughter/son. It will make the Dragons more a sight to behold kinda thing and how much of an impact it will bring for world development of WoW. But i guess that will only happens if something happens to the Pantheon.

[@vortexfury7197]

The murloc quest was too good

[@heartless2147]

Blizzard can sprinkle wholesome moments all they want, it doesn't fix what Shadowlands and Danuser broke. The very worldbuilding of Warcraft has been destroyed, there is no foundation anymore, it's like making a house on top of quicksand.

[@lelandwhitehead56]

I don't think its as broken as you think it is. I'm not going to say shadowlands was good, but there are in-universe stated reasons for every 'plot hole' in Shadowlands I've ever seen identified. I think they have managed to salvage things.

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@lelandwhitehead56 - Then I guess you just happened to miss the thousand other plot holes that remain. The deeper you go into it, the messier it gets. So I completely get wanting to just ignore it.

[@dookinater9756]

i am so worried Chromie might be killed off cause of how that cutscene with her and Noz played out

[@ChouhouinNeko]

i feel like more he is grooming her to be his replacement so when he turns there can still be a bronze aspect

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@ChouhouinNeko - Must feel bad for his already existing heir, Anachronos.

[@ChouhouinNeko]

@@mokarokas-1727 i mean they change the lroe alot i feel they forgot about him

[@kevinmartinez114]

Did you ever do the lore for the green dragon flight I have not seen it.

[@mokarokas-1727]

Why don't you go to his newest videos and scroll down a little and find out?

[@kevinmartinez114]

@@mokarokas-1727 ooo so scroll down how far?

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@kevinmartinez114 - Oh my God just do it. It was like last month.

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@kevinmartinez114 - Better yet in these situations, use the search function on someone's cha nnel.

[@kevinmartinez114]

@@mokarokas-1727 let me get this straight we can search it whaaaaaat

[@PrinnySong]

Siaszerathelis sooo precious!

[@bassiedappie635]

Glad Garrosh is back

[@charlespaape2258]

I just want Murloc expansion for the bronze Dragonflight now

[@patlee4858]

i feel like murozond is nozudomu who us free from the order magic the aspect receved

[@chasegetson1125]

gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood

[@dwayne8273]

And soridormi, now shes just a egg layer basically, sadge

[@lelandwhitehead56]

That's all a consort ever was.

[@bc9554]

Always was

[@Hawkens4k]

They really love the garrosh voice apparently.

[@jsmth99]

I don't blame them, the VA is amazing. But if you ask me now, I can't recall who the character was. But I recall going "Oh, Garrosh!"

[@lelandwhitehead56]

Garrosh? I think you mean Dio Brando.

[@lelandwhitehead56]

Also FWIW the same guy voiced Arthas.

[@Hawkens4k]

@@lelandwhitehead56 /Sprays with water No! No JoJo references!

[@bonefetcherbrimley7740]

Chromie sounds so cute.

[@Graavigala85]

the subtitles at 2:05 :D

[@YGOHermit]

Hope Chromie can save him

[@lesgrosgainz]

Please no Chromie aspect Blizzy😅.

[@BIacklce]

They couldn't afford Martin sheen again huh

[@CharlesLeechocolatefactory]

We just changed the means of his death

[@8ferarry8]

They did Chromie dirty...

[@theblackgoatofthewoods]

Why does Chromies dragonname sound male?

[@mokarokas-1727]

Because he is male, but presents as a female gnome.

[@theblackgoatofthewoods]

@@mokarokas-1727 So... He's Warcraft's own dragqueen?

[@fightingfaerie]

You can ask her that yourself actually

[@etain21918]

Chromie on their visage day was asking others why they picked their forms, and apparently Chromie felt happier being a female gnome instead of being a male gnome, when you ask why their name is, Chromie is like I am Chromie this is me It's meant to be trans representation that they transitioned with their visage but the dragon is still male, just female visage

[@saellenx3528]

So Nozdormu wont die it seems. Another retcon of something that should happen. Why cant they just let characters die and replace them with new ones.😒

[@Terrados1337]

That's a pretty cool questline :) I always needed Ibuprofen to deal with Chromies headache inducing optimism :D Future aspect confirmed (tm)?

[@Terrados1337]

@nobblel87 shut up bot

[@gerry7767]

Hellooo everyoneeeee❤

[@mrcavetroll7268]

Chromie is awesome and her voice actor is even better

[@mokarokas-1727]

Really? Because I feel this was a real step down, with the forced "children's TV" cadence. It makes her seem naive, and Chromie is anything but naive.

[@bc9554]

@@mokarokas-1727 this whole expansion has cringe voice acting to be fair. nobody talks like a real person, they all have “theatre voice”

[@arbenzotaj8342]

it is unknown if nozdormu will never become murozond and nozdormu will be saved.

[@chronowendigo2199]

the fucking subtitles

[@lilesmw]

It just seems so lame like it’s not introducing. It’s not breathtaking. It’s not informing and smart timescale meshing It’s just garbage fully animated, poorly. To be clear, you sir are amazing, I’m not referring to you, but to blizzard.

[@Yeshuawillreturn]

They took chromie and made her annoying.

[@andypac2233]

Second

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

Eugh, Chromie's terrible voice

[@bc9554]

The implication that evil timeline chromie is a cis male based on the voice is kinda funny

[@fightingfaerie]

What are you talking about. Eternus sounded female. Besides does it matter?

[@TheChrisrock55555]

First

[@rampo401]

your usage of the words "they/them" are so confusing. I've noticed you're starting to be more "inclusive" recently. but man.. its so annoying. just say she/her he/him.

[@mokarokas-1727]

Examples?

[@bc9554]

@@mokarokas-1727 eranog. Hes obviously a guy but nobbel says they