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[@Antwannnn]

I don't think it's a coincidence that the Kids Network with less child actors is the least problematic one

[@Tony-fq5bn]

Was gonna comment this, makes sense they're less controversial since Cartoon Network doesn't have live action shows

[@KingOfGaymes]

@@Tony-fq5bn well they did for a little bit, it sucked

[@mauropereira187]

@@KingOfGaymes I thought destroy build destroy was pretty fun to watch

[@bulldogblast1945]

@@mauropereira187 that shit rocked, and hole in the wall

[@madkirk7431]

Less children > less pedos > less Twitter users > less problems

[@dyrr836]

The whole "should kids be introduced to racism" debate makes no sense. Do those people think kids just don't experience racism? Have they never heard how middle schoolers talk to each other?

[@brycedurham280]

A lot of parents and adults try to protect the “innocence” of children by not exposing them to complex issues and dark topics. Ironically, kids either recreate dark or complex behaviors by either coincidence, some sort of neurological/psychological (some may say spiritual) influence, or external influence like how they’re raised or what they find on the internet.

[@ksis86]

Seriously. I remember a white kid running around the playground saying the n-word when i was in 3rd grade. And another white boy told me i was ugly in middle school because my skin was the color of his poop. Like yeah, im talking to my kids about racism as soon as they can understand the basic concept.

[@xnotasweatx]

@@ksis86 jeesus forgot how brutal children were

[@MauveMimi]

right. i experienced racism in intermediate school (3rd-5th grade). The little kids on my bus curse like sailors when their parents aren't around. POC have to teach their kids about racism, especially since we might experience it and not know it. Kids are not as innocent or dumb as people think they are; some are, but many of them are not. Kids also learn racism inside their homes, influenced by parents.

[@deneshawatson5809]

I've experienced racism and colorism all through going to school. When my kid is old enough they will be learning about what racism is

[@Augrills]

I remember as a kid, Cartoon Network was considered the darker and weirder cartoon channel and Nick was the more mainstream and wholesome one. How wrong people were

[@Hwarming]

CN has always been more open to experimental art, which I respect a lot, Nick and Disney always felt more corporate.

[@M6A6T6T]

I went to a friends house when I was 6-7 and put on Cartoon Network and my friends mum raged screamed and yelled that it was evil and to turn it off she didn’t like me after that…

[@creepypastacraft]

@@M6A6T6Tfucking wild

[@darkpit37]

One thing that's extremely weird about the whole "beast boy turns into a cow" thing is that beast *boy* is you know, obviously a dude, so why the heck did the cow have udders and obviously the question everyone might ask is was that even actually milk?

[@kaibaiarrio1299]

Trans beastboy confirmed canon by cow udder (/joke)

[@sonicroachdoggjrraven3263]

The enchiridion title card was actually a thing where the artists drew it really graphic and kept drawing versions of it with less and less blood and gore until it became the one we got.

[@ChrisFV]

Yeah in an interview they mentioned that the network wouldn't let them show Finn holding a knife towards Jake, so the made a super gory one so they would make them "tone it down" to the original one they wanted

[@Zulf85]

What always disappointed me is that the original one was the only title card they uploaded in low resolution to Flickr - obviously for good reason, but it was so hilarious to me that they drew it like that solely to try and get a knife into their intended card

[@CureSmileful]

I was gonna say the same thing

[@Gundam_JAY]

Huh that's pretty cool

[@dascreeb5205]

@@ChrisFV trolling.

[@TheRaider1815]

Another thing about Ace in Gorillaz- in the Powerpuff girls movie there's a shot of a newspaper and one of the ads is for a Gorillaz concert. So Gorillaz and PPG seem to be set in the same universe.

[@avocadozombie5918]

Damon also wrote some music for that movie I belive he and one of the creators or buddy buddy

[@acegreen723]

Also Noodle has stated that Bubbles is her favorite and 2D is seen wearing a Mojo Jojo shirt in a piece of art (These were both in the first phase of Gorillaz), I heard that the creator of Powerpuff girls is a friend of Jamie and Damon

[@nickthatrick4262]

@@acegreen723 Mojojo IS THE GORILLA

[@Katy133]

13:07 - I am happy to report that the lost Johnny Bravo X Dragon Ball Z episode has been found as of May 14th 2023 (this week at the time of this comment), 23 years after it was lost. The full 25 minutes is now available to watch as an archived video (I tried to link it here, but my initial comment seems to have been removed by KZbin due to the link), found through a link in a May 2023 Kotaku article about the episode (article titled, "Lost Johnny Bravo, Dragon Ball Z Episode Found After 23 Years [Update]").

[@brandenhurt4468]

🎉

[@ericarvizo358]

Surprised what wasn't included was in the Regular Show episode "Meat Your Maker", Mordecai crossed his arms at Rigby and said "You pissed me off", but then they later edited it to "You ticked me off"

[@deijix]

The obsession with Pearl is very… odd but Pearl has never been portrayed as being underage. She just has a very flat and vertical body type. Plus her personality is literally the opposite of childlike 90% of the time. She’s very strict and maternal and mature. Even her voice is that of a grown woman.

[@BionicPIGtv]

Never watched the show so I wasnt aware of her personality. I just saw people mention the underage thing and assumed. Sorry!

[@deijix]

@@BionicPIGtv no problem! Not really defending him or anything just wanted it to be known. Thanks for reading my comment and keep up the good work 🙂

[@dziewiaty]

@@BionicPIGtv she is also a possible war criminal

[@Zulf85]

Yeah, plenty of adults - male, female, and otherwise - in this world have a slim build. It can kind of suck for skinny adult people with small boobs to be deemed that way lmao

[@Zulf85]

@@dziewiaty Most of the gems in that show are definitely war criminals lmao

[@TheGuardianssorrow]

It amazes me with how common famous people, big companies, and most show business are deep in sexual assault and abuse towards women. Then there’s Cartoon Network who’s sin is just having very adult minds and dark humor that’s not age friendly towards kids. Mad respect.

[@rushpatriot2866]

Don't get it twisted both sex get assaulted you just don't hear about it for guys cause y'all make fun of male SA victims. Ironic really

[@sexygirlmax2019]

@@rushpatriot2866 Actually its mostly men that mock and do not believe male victims. On videos where men share their stories or videos of boys that got groomed and assaulted by their female teachers..You see men either praising them, saying "be honest this is every guys fantasy" or saying it didnt happen..And tons of women saying they know men irl who have talked about their assault and didnt even know or believe that what happened to them was horrible and wrong and illegal on the older persons part. So this is just untrue and also derailing the point OP was making.. Yes, it happens. Way more than we realize. But men are the ones that are quick to deny it, because they are taught to always want it and to not cry or share their emotions or be weak. Not women trying to block it out or call them liars or trying to silence male victims But bottom line, this was just a really unnecessary and untrue comment, and its interesting to me how there is ALWAYS a guy shouting over ANYONE who brings up women being abused (esp in this case where it was just a passing mention of how Nickelodeon and Disney are FAMOUS for lettin horrible people work for them knowingly and how many women and children were taken advantage of and abused (dan schneider, john kricfalusi etc) in these cases its mostly females coming out about their story BUT john kricfalusi also groomed boys and dan schneider would give the underage stars (boys and girls) alcohol

[@rushpatriot2866]

@수키 suki nah they weren't the only people supporting him were men. That's why people like cardi b get away with it. Every dude you talk will take it seriously unless they're 10 which is most of TikTok and the majority of guys that are decently attractive have been assaulted. I know you like spreading sexism and all but this is a serious matter nobody has time for your brain dead selfishness.

[@christrontherobot4100]

​@수키 suki yikes

[@niggachu420]

​@@Nabiiaayikes it's funny you think it's mainly men lmao ofc u , a female is sayin this 😂 watch videos of women laughing at a man getting assaulted by his girlfriend 🤦🏿 if it was a girl they wouldn't , stfu

[@kayhoudini]

I’m surprised you didn’t mention Mad TV the remake they did (Warner Bros & CN) was only on the air for 3 seasons but I vividly remember watching it come out when I was 10 thinking to myself “this is not something that I feel like is appropriate” even to the point where my mom didn’t want us watching it and I remember catching most of the adult jokes. It seemed like a kid version of Robot Chicken

[@TheUnknown06]

I fucking loved MAD but my dad saw the episode where 2 guys almost kissed and he wouldn't let me watch it😭 still gay thooouugghhh

[@BabyDanny_]

Omg I remember that show, it was honestly interesting for me as a kid but I was traumatized when I saw lightning mcqueen got smushed and the car oil (blood) started coming out

[@epicminecraftgamer2811]

I remember watching it. There was one episode where there was like a claymation music video, and there was a part at the end where one of the characters face melted off. Now, this isn't scary at all because it's clay, but I was so scared I never watched the show again.

[@elaynadiedinside]

My cousin (who's younger than me) tried to show me that show one time and I literally refused to watch it because I thought he was lying about it being for kids lol. Occasionally I watch clips of it now whenever I go through Robot Chicken stuff

[@ShadeyNshade228]

Omg that is such a good and accurate comparison definitely children's version of Robot Chicken is the best description to give it.

[@twoodbeats]

I remember seeing that Dexter's Lab episode where they were cursing somewhere on TV. I remember it playing out with bleeps but you understood they were cursing. CN says they never aired it but I truly believe it was a one-and-done

[@linaemerald6413]

Pretty sure adult swim aired when they started running dexters lab.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

"Rude Removal"

[@frankiesinn3557]

I came here to say i remember that episode

[@l0uiezz]

It definitely aired me and my brothers remembered watching it and this was a day before we went into foster care so it still was fresh in my mind and became a memory

[@pandapotatoess4538]

Same! I asked my brother about it without the context of it “never being aired” and he remembers it too, mainly because it was one of the only times we both wanted to watch the same thing on TV.

[@tobyrightenger9748]

The show “Dude, what would happen?” Really made me wanna pursue engineering. It was a like a PG Jackass show

[@OilyAnimal3]

And destroy build destroy

[@KLA611]

More like Mythbusters

[@pentilex4338]

All 3 of them for me

[@Antwon22]

same for me with destroy build destroy, made me want to design something, and i forgot about that show completely and just like he said all the memories flooded into my head like he just popped a dam wall inside my brain

[@ashikjaman1940]

There was an episode about whether a bag of feathers and a bag of other stuff would fall faster right?

[@somecanadian_guy]

As someone who watched TDI as a kid, I did see a version of the topless heather scene, but slightly different from how you described it. She did get her top torn off by a branch, but nothing was pixilated. Instead we got a black bar as a censor

[@devilishchrissy5033]

I literally searched to see if someone mentioned this because I thought I was just misremembering. I remember that episode but the way he described it did not sound right to me, and once he played the clip I was positive that wasn't what I saw. A black bar sounds way more familiar, I feel less crazy now XD

[@tobylefebvre790]

I had no recollection of the heather scene until you mentioned the black bar, I actually do remember that.

[@jcoolguy1548]

@@devilishchrissy5033 I saw the pixelated one

[@sorakii-bw6hh]

it was so funny how against it he was like she was real lol the teen titans go facial one was weirder than that

[@Zvwry]

I remember the pixilated one

[@BananaPhoPhilly]

I think the main objection to the Steven Universe anti-racist PSA wasn't that kids are too young to be exposed to racism and lessons teaching against it, rather that the PSA was done in such a horribly cringe fashion that it just seem half-assed. It had been done much better before in other cartoons

[@OneAndZer0]

Everything being labeled "cringe" is annoying imo. Its a PSA using a kids cartoon about love and friendship. Its not gonna be a deep critique on racism.

[@BananaPhoPhilly]

@@OneAndZer0 Just because it’s for kids it doesn’t mean it has to treat them like they’re stupid

[@prageruwu69]

hey quick question, did you watch anything at all past garnet saying "don't be racist"? because that was a psa WITHIN a psa, meant to be an exaggarated version of an anti-racist psa because its within another psa. like how shows within shows usually dont have a alot of depth. the actual psa part is after they finish filming the clip everyone who has never seen a second of anything steven universe related shared thinking it was proof that its shallow. its like using an itchy and scratchy clip as proof that the simpsons is shallow and violent.

[@msjkramey]

​@@prageruwu69do you think the actual PSA was effective? I didn't even know it existed before today

[@roberthan5109]

One that I also want to bring attention to is the case of Paul Boyd, who worked on the show Ed edd n Eddy that was shot and killed by police in Vancouver. Don't know the specifics but they said he was creating a disturbance, one thing lead to another where the police ended up killing him. They even gave him a in memory credit at the end of one of the episodes

[@lennybird]

Rip Paul Boyd man... he didn't deserve to be shot like that :(

[@jackcampbellmaniacjack2064]

Cartoon Network was straight master class! Please do an adult swim iceberg next!

[@joeysullivanTM]

Yes!

[@johntangalin2391]

Yeah, I really thought that Adult Swim/ Toonami would be considered part of the Cartoon Network iceberg, but I think Pig was saying that would warrant its own iceberg instead (e.g. all the Rick and Morty controversies with Dan Harmon, the harassment of a R&M animator, etc.).

[@Euro.Patriot]

Dantavius did a good one.

[@Kase3322]

This!

[@Hamantha]

You don’t need an adult swim iceberg, just watch adult swim and you can fill in the blanks

[@eerieeric834]

Why are you wearing a Nickelodeon T-shirt while talking about Cartoon Network

[@joeysullivanTM]

That's the real mystery to be solved

[@tackyoptic]

That's illegal

[@negritotenfold]

It’s like wearing adidas and Nike with the same outfit

[@milenagiaouris7340]

Lol

[@rtp6343]

Never let them know your next move

[@random_person72.]

14:07 Netflix: are you still watching? Somebody's daughter:

[@YoungDope252]

Rude removal DEFINITELY aired on Cartoon Network when I was a child! That episode stuck with me forever

[@spicypoptarts662]

the pure dread he has when he says "yay" for the annoying orange show is the gold.

[@xxpulkaxx]

Cause that show is straight trash like idky they did it cause I was maybe in my preteens or mid teens when this happened and did find it very annoying and why I even decided to watch an episode *facepalm*

[@kikibbgaming4963]

*yay*

[@nailuvsmonkeys]

im negl i liked it

[@skylerc5253]

I feel like that definitely wasn’t Edd with cornrows but meant to be stringy thinning hair showing he’s balding at a young age which would explain why he never took his hat off. If he took the time and pain to get his hair cornrowed he wouldn’t hide that shit 😂

[@GenericProtagonist118]

I heard a theory that said he might have a nasty childhood scar he's embarrassed of.

[@hughjanus2252]

Facts

[@JustAPrinnyDood]

I remember somewhere fans got to write to characters of different TV shows and someone asked Edd why he wore a hat to which he wrote back "It keeps my brain warm" leading me to believe for years he had an exposed brain.

[@graceartsy4414]

he got the Linus cut from Charlie Brown

[@arstulex]

@@GenericProtagonist118 It's most likely this. The balding/odd hairstyle theory kinda loses validity when you consider that, in one of the episodes where DD loses his hat, Eddy asks him something along the lines of "does it hurt?". Cornrows especially doesn't make sense because it wouldn't fit DD or his parents' character. His parents are implied to be extremely strict (which is why DD is the way he is), so it's unlikely they would want him to have cornrows, and it's not like DD would choose to have cornrows (while using the hat to hide it from his parents) either. It's almost definitely some kind of deformity or injury.

[@autumnfox7189]

Hi I am a Canadian I can definitely confirm that the scene with Heather shirt coming off did air in Canada and it was not pixelized

[@Yosh227]

I love how he shouts out Cartoon Network for being his favorite while wearing a Nickelodeon shirt. Well played

[@barrycreation6476]

I’m surprised I’ve never seen anyone mention the Tobuscus bumpers that existed around the time of the Annoying Orange show (since Tobuscus is a character in that show). One the bumpers even had him turn into his iconic animated design.

[@robbiesilverwolf]

Yeah I’m a little upset he gave Tobuscus the cold shoulder while talking about annoying orange

[@KingOfGaymes]

@@robbiesilverwolf kinda deserved

[@Lthe1]

@@KingOfGaymes not deserved, he was innocent and had his life ruined

[@StevieMcKenna10]

@@Lthe1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIKknoKugpehZq8 Definitely not innocent, some shit he did was really gross

[@ac-fp9lx]

@@Lthe1 no he wasn't, there's plenty evidence he was an abuser and creep.

[@VolatileVolcarona]

The total drama island thing with Heather was real, it was shown on the first airing of that episode and never again. I remember pointing it out to my sister the first time it played.

[@lavenderrayne1963]

I had to go back to the uncensored episode and yeah it's very real

[@jonshields5649]

I never saw the first airing of that episode my satellite went out during a storm and couldn't watch. The second airing was definitely the censored pixelated version. I can't confirm anything else.

[@thetiannamick]

Odd.. I watched it live as well and it was for SURE the censored one

[@amaikarai5007]

I remember watching it as a kid, and my mom being in the room, and yelling at me for watching inappropriate cartoons, lmaoo

[@garrettspikes1267]

Same

[@selinnazsur2328]

My issue with the SU bumper (even as a former fan of the show) is how ham-fisted and blunt it honestly was. There are shows out there who do a way better job at introducing kids to such serious and complicated issues. Things like this require some sophistication, you shouldn't rush or sensationalize it. So a minute-long animated clip is a very weird way to go about it, it feels more populist than anything. The show itself wasn't too bad but I'm just _ehhhh_ about those bumpers they made...

[@Karosing30]

I was there during the Boston bomb scare. The whole event was honestly probably a precursor to what would become memes. I remember being at an anime convention and it was just a joke to everyone. People would cosplay as a mooninite or pass around stickers of the little dudes, they made amvs featuring mooninites blowing things up set to tchaikovsky's 1812 overture. It was great.

[@namecomingsoon9517]

Whoever saw Pearl and thought she looked under aged. I always saw her like a late 20’s early 30’s mom figure

[@ventedthesenuts]

Yeah while wired the guy helped make the show and liked the fictional character people draw porn all the time he'll the main character draws Ed edd and eddy porn don't really see it as all that wierd

[@Nekoszowa]

Seriously tho, everyone had a self insert phase where they shipped themselves with a fictional character. I clearly remember writing Ulrich(Code Lyoko) x Me stories as a kid, and far a long time I wrote bad smut about Ash(Pokemon) x Me when I was like 11. Really nothing weird about it.

[@sonicroachdoggjrraven3263]

Yeah I don't understand how she looks underage

[@namecomingsoon9517]

@@sonicroachdoggjrraven3263 even with Amethyst. She acted like a kid but i never saw her as being a child

[@corenlavolpe6143]

@@namecomingsoon9517 Amythest felt like a rebellious teen and older sister to Steven, but like all the other Gem characters she's way older than any living human

[@GhostlyPhantom]

It's hard to believe CN has a better track record when it comes to controversies compared to Nick.

[@snakesonaframe2668]

It’s likely because CN has a lot fewer in-person child actors.

[@KingOfGaymes]

Why…? It’s all cartoons, Nick has actual child actors getting creeped on 💀

[@GhostlyPhantom]

@@KingOfGaymes yeah, and that's Nick's fault for having people on set like that, CN has always been better and always a real GOAT

[@ltee7911]

@@GhostlyPhantom you still haven’t explained why it’s hard (for you) to believe that CN has a better track record lol

[@rushpatriot2866]

@@GhostlyPhantom it's gonna stay happening. Whether y'all wanna believe it or not there's a ton of pedos in hollyweird and they got their clicks.

[@TheoRae8289]

PPGZ is pretty cute and absolutely keeps in line with what you'd expect from PPG, just with more detail and transformation sequences. I'm kind of sad that it never hit the US because I saw it through a fan subs prior to the Ocean Dubs. I legit thought the ad campaign in Boston was a handful of edgelords just posted the character in random places. There IS a post-apocalyptic Scooby-Doo comic series that I highly recommend.

[@LeoIsDIO]

I really wish there was more iceberg content you could make, I really love your formatting for them!

[@luciengremaud1117]

Literal kids drawn having sex together is somehow less weird than a relashionship with Pearl who is clearly depicted as an older/mother figure? Ok.

[@luckyman6774]

Ya that was quite the double standard eh.

[@user-me3ge8de4o]

Double standards, double standards everywhere...

[@amazingspiderlad]

Yeah, I hate to be that guy but if a male cartoonist had been found to have drawn child porn he definitely would have been fired

[@user-wg1hz]

@@amazingspiderlad someone didnt watch the nickelodeon iceberg w/ Steve Ressel doing this exact thing .

[@amazingspiderlad]

@@user-wg1hz Different standards, man... Nickelodeon is notoriously sketchy with shit like this, they didn't even fire Dan Schneider when they definitely knew what he got up to, same with John K and I could go on forever with examples

[@Boatkid139]

I have another disturbing thing, in “the amazing world of gumball” there is a clown in the background of every episode it was very unsettling for me

[@NotMe-yh5gi]

I don’t think he’s in the background of every episode

[@susbedstain2900]

@@NotMe-yh5gi he is

[@jovanidiaz3745]

@@susbedstain2900 he’s not. the episode surrounding him simply edits him in spots of different episodes to make it seem like he was always there

[@KaytheWooper]

He only appears in one episode

[@donzigre]

@@KaytheWooper what episode is it?

[@Natasha_4]

This was such a great fun video!! Keep up the good work 👍🏽

[@victoriachamberlin3461]

That small mention of China Illinois made me wanna binge it again

[@otdreamer193]

Still hoping that show makes a return.

[@yanderetotodile69]

In mentioning bumpers like the Cartoon Network City one, there was also the short film that (I think was split into bumpers or just aired as one short) called The Scooby Doo Project which was a parody of the Blair Witch Project. Then years later to promote the hella forgotten show, The Secret Saturdays, there were multiple "found-footage" cryptid attack/sighting bumpers that felt like they could've been ripped straight from Lost Tapes. As for other icebergs, you did mention Adult Swim/Toonami (maybe split into two and encompass some popular anime in general with Toonami or combined), which could be fun to do in progressing from Cartoon Network. You also do true crime content on streams, so you could combine pop culture media and true crime cases like the Invader Zim Dark Harvest murder and Randy Stair/Ember's Ghost Squad along with any other film/media "inspired" cases (Child's Play 3, Scream, etc.).

[@bilepunch]

The child’s play 3 thing is just speculation

[@brainrich1358]

Or the time when Cartoon Network was taken over by aliens and how they teased it at first by using found footage type video of a little kid telling his dad that there were aliens outside his window.

[@brick.jonas1]

I totally remember those two Especially the cryptid one cause I can never seem to find videos of it

[@SolflareYT]

me as a kid discovering at after 10 pm the channel switched to adult swim made me feel like I discovered the secret to the illuminati

[@raelogan]

I remember seeing the DBZ episode of JBVO when it aired. I didn't think to put a tape in the vcr to save it because I was a dumb kid, but I remember just laughing so much at the sped up footage, Johnny doing his "Whoa Mama, look out Goku!" shtick while Frieza was fighting Goku as Namek is just getting more and more desolate was just perfectly fun, and it was condensed into an 11min segment. I would pay good money to see a full release of that again.

[@TheRealWoopSlap]

Glad one of my favorite channels has the least amount of controversies

[@acegreen723]

I don't know if anyone else mentioned this but Ace was also in the Tranz music video. He even had lines that were cut! Recently, in the Humility commentary version of the music video Murdoc has said that Ace wrote him a letter last Christmas saying that he's ''moved to the dessert, stockpiling food and ammunition, and waiting for the 'endless dark'. There's still references to Ace in some of the recent art!

[@justasimplenobody2666]

"Why did you cancel Chowder?" dude I feel that 💯 that show had some iconic animation and wonderful humor. If there were any 2 Cartoon Network shows I would bring back, it would be Chowder and an extension of the original Teen Titans. Chowder is so special to me and I'm still sad it didn't get more seasons.

[@kortvuxen]

currently binging your whole channel, you’re welcome for this months paycheck xoxo

[@TiLTNationGaming]

I remember that Dexter episode too 🤔 nice video. It was nostalgic to see sum of these clips

[@Eligon_1965]

There was also a steven universe blackface controversy. Basically, they released a Steven universe artbook, with one of the pages featured concept art for a scraped character. That charater was a black women with big lips, that was descripted to be stupid and unable to read. People got pissed over this and the showrunner had to apologize.

[@Mooms]

And they had to remove the character from later editions of the artbook

[@sunnivamhagatun]

i feel like it must’ve been a very very unfortunate mistake. rebecca sugar seems pretty liberal, not the type to draw stuff like that on purpose

[@KingOfGaymes]

@@sunnivamhagatun she very much is considering how progressive the show is, I think it was just a really bad coincidence that she put that design with those traits 😬

[@noellegamerstudios6933]

@@KingOfGaymes there’s no way that can be an accident Like, NO WAY I don’t care how “liberal” someone seems People tend to present themselves as better than they actually are to compensate for their more problematic tendencies. But those tendencies slip sometimes. This doesn’t mean they are a bad person, it just means they have some serious problems to work through.

[@gilbertorubiovillafuerte9724]

I think it was a bit blown out of proportion considering some of the best characters she created also look like black women ie. garnet / bismuth / amethyst. I do think the character was problematic but definitely not as bad as people made it seem

[@dejanratkovic5955]

I remember reading that creators said the reason you don't see adults in the ed edd and eddy is because when you were a kid and the summer vacation started somehow you haven't seen any parents of your friends or just don't remember them.

[@trippykoa8204]

Great video man. Watched the whole thing!

[@Orion_TheyThem]

I thought Courage was based on small town Kansas. The show literally says it takes place in Kansas. In the city of Nowhere (fun fact, there used to be a small township named Nowhere and you can still find a sign for it, in Kansas).

[@therealCrazyJake]

The purgatory theory is interesting at best, but it very clearly doesn’t line up with all the characters’ proposed timelines. The show was first aired in early 1999, and Jimmy was established as a supporting character during the first episode, so he would not have died in the 2000s if he were already in the Cul-de-sac in 1999.

[@analurangel2396]

I see what your saying but i doubt time would be linear in a purgatory

[@therealCrazyJake]

@@analurangel2396 that’s a fair assumption, but also there’s nothing to suggest Jimmy being from the 2000s either, considering that there’s not anything you could point to about his wardrobe, hairstyle, or mannerisms that would reasonably put him in that time frame. Personally, I feel that he better fits the description of a ‘70s kid, given his clothing style and the fact that he wears headgear, which would have been a lot more common in the decades prior to the 1990s. Jimmy appears to me as someone from post ‘60s, yet not quite of the ‘80s. Personally, Eddy also strikes me as being from the ‘70s, given the aesthetic of his bedroom, as well as his style of clothing (albeit the flashier style of the ‘70s). Though I understand why people like to think of Eddy being from the Great Depression, but his home décor would suggest otherwise.

[@bluepyro6840]

I don’t care if it was controversial or not the “don’t be racist” ad is unintentionally one of the funniest pieces of media they’ve ever released

[@roberthan5109]

I heard that the black and white billy and Mandy episode you showed was actually a school project the creator had to do when he was in school for animation. That was his end of the year project and he later on turned it into a show. So I guess it's kind of a pilot episode, but that's the story from what I heard

[@SaintSoda]

Love the video, there’s a clip that repeats at exactly 26:00, I notice that happens random videos often

[@ember_Matic]

I mean with that scooby doo theory that just makes shaggy and scooby being a stoner and eating Scooby snacks a lot more depressing when you think about it, but also kind of funny

[@claytonmitchell5685]

I knew you would talk about the Courage the Cowardly Dog Skinwalker theory, cause it's a decently well known theory and it's crazy fascinating. I did some looking into this not that long ago (got inspired to look up stuff after your previous iceberg videos so thanks for that PIG, loved those videos). Something else about that theory that is worth noting is actually the part about the skinwalkers. Here's what I found about them in an article: "From what we can gather, a New Mexico skinwalkers are defined as humans that have crossed over to the dark side in a sense. Almost like they “signed with the Devil”. This happens after being mind-controlled by different skin walker. After being sought out by one and converted, the new skinwalkers is given a certain power, whether it be flying or morphing into a wolf, and they change their form. As a new skin walker they roam the landscape in a similar fashion to a human, while also being “different in every sense.” The true meaning of their existence is an absolute mystery. Skinwalkers take interest in a human before attempting to convert them. It could be an obsession with their strength, or a lust for their beauty, but they will stalk for many months before making any moves." This kinda sounds like some of the villains that are encountered in the show. Not entirely human, but not necessarily full on monsters, that are just kinda evil without straight up murdering people all the time. However the article that I got that quote about skinwalkers from earlier contains art from 1995 that someone made of a skinwalker, and it looks a lot like King Ramses from the King Ramses' Curse episode of Courage. (Skinwalker art: todaysfive.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/image-6.png; King Ramses still: todaysfive.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/image-7.png). So yeah, I think it's pretty safe to say that the creators of Courage had some legit inspiration for the show, even if they won't admit it publicly.

[@whocares4583]

Wow nice comment man

[@xxpulkaxx]

And scarred me for life. As a kid, I was scared to watch this episode along with majority of them but I still watched them cause I like the show lol

[@sexygirlmax2019]

the similarities are uncanny wow

[@WD_RatLad]

_r e t u r n t h e s l a b_

[@howboutno126]

I thought powerpuff girls anime was famous in other countries, because here in the Philippines it was really big. Honestly, it was really good because it aired on free tv alongside OG powerpuff. It's actually nostalgic now you've mentioned it.

[@gemini1005]

LOVED this iceberg, and that shirt awesome man

[@KLA611]

Should have mentioned the cursed Powerpuff Girls (2016) dance and one of the animators involved made some creepy tweets when working at Netflix

[@DC-FGC]

I was surprised that the Buffalo Gals episode of Cow & Chicken didn't get a mention. I actually saw it the one and only time it aired. Now it's kind of infamous.

[@VictorCowo]

I believe the Heather boob censorship thing is a part of the script has to come down to the show's premise of it being a reality show like Survivor where things aren't scripted and the plot of the story is pushed by Chris to get more viewers...in the show there were moments that happened organically not at the fault of Chris...so in that case when her top came off the executives and standards and practice in their world have to censor it to not get into troubled or get a higher age restriction...but in our world since its a show targeted towards a teen (possibly preteen ) audience...they made the scene already censored since i assume it be a waste of time to re-edit a scene for a joke that lasted a few frames since animating things cost time and money but keep the joke to make things interesting

[@limitedsyd1866]

this is my first ever vid i’ve seen by you and you’ve got my sub! ur hilarious and cute and talk about shit I actually wanna know about, keep it up! x

[@oriononerom7985]

The dude that created Regular show grew up one town over from my home town...(it's crazy to see the Parks and various places in that show cause I see it IRL) He visits his dad during the holiday you'll see him at the mall Occasionally. HANFORD California

[@ChanceAndCoco]

There was also a bit of a controversy surrounding Class of 3000 that got the show taken off the air. Apparently the creator of the show had stolen the idea, or at least used one that was extremely similar to, someone that pitched it a few years prior. To avoid the scandal, Cartoon Network eventually just took the entire show off the air. It kind of sucks, because banana zoo is a bop

[@pinoyyya6948]

I'm from Brazil and they've aired Powerpuff Girls Z in here. I'll tell you: There are some interesting ideas on that show, even though it was not, generally, my cup of tea, likely cause i was not on the demographic it was designed for. I remember each of the girls had their own households with their own families. Buttercup was the only daughter of a masked fighter (wwe-like) and had many brothers. It basically followed the whole magic girl anime genre, nothing much to it.

[@Hollowdude15]

Nice video dude 👏

[@Lavenderskullz]

The total drama island one is real. It’s a Canadian tv show and they don’t have as strict censorship laws so they were able to include cussing and nudity. But they had to censor it for American television, that’s why there’s bleeped out curse words and the boobs.

[@compassionandhumility]

Yeah, it also isn't a cartoon made for children. Still weird to animate them if they are supposed to be 16(I haven't really watched it).~

[@Lavenderskullz]

@@compassionandhumility yeah i think its a little weird, but i dont think it was supposed to be sexual, its a teen camp and it does seem like something that would happen (a girls top coming off and everyone making fun of her) , its just weird to think about lmao

[@arstulex]

@@compassionandhumility 16 is the most common age of consent in the western world, by quite a margin. Most US states even use 16 as their age of consent. Still kinda weird, sure, but not _illegal_ weird.

[@hannahisadisaster337]

yeah! i remember the censorship of cursing (im from california) and i was kind of confused and thought i was watching adult swim😭

[@compassionandhumility]

@@arstulex It seems a little weird and unnecessary to make the distinction when I didn't mention any illegality. lol

[@Gambito99100]

If you guys wanna know a very sad, dark and real thing related to CN, search what happened to Paul Boyd, one of the animators for Ed, Edd n Eddy

[@dovahkiin6488]

Jhc, I just searched it up and it is heart wrenching

[@serpentmongrel]

I was still a kid when I heard about that. It was me and my bro's favorite show. That was a very dark day :(

[@mikebakster2540]

Care to explain?

[@stevem.o.1185]

@@mikebakster2540 he had some kind of manic episode and was executed by the police while crawling on the ground.

[@PastelFangirl]

I was just gonna make a comment about that! I was surprised that wasn’t on here because it’s pretty tragic what happened.

[@kikurosai]

I wouldn't call this a controversial or disgusting thing, but there was once an official Cartoon Network MMO with many of the different cartoon network characters from many of their shows all in the same universe, called Fusionfall. It was released in 2008 or 2009 I believe, and it shut down August 29th 2013. I think it was around 2019 that fans of the original game (they called their team "Fusionfall Universe") finally finished rebuilding and released the game under "Fusionfall Retro," with plans for an updated graphics and continuation of the game called "Fusionfall Legacy." Cartoon Network had a "Cartoon Network Legacy" app coming out, and this is what caused the company to DMCA the fan-made recreation and it was ultimately shut down. However, they still have the game playable as more of a "debug" build under "OpenFusion," and they have "Fusionfall Retro" with its additional fan-made events and updates available to play under the name "Retrobution." They are currently still putting their work into that updated graphics continuation of the game, but under the title "Saturday Morning Invasion." I highly doubt this will ever be seen, but I really do hope this is read. I think it's fascinating and I grew up with Fusionfall in my childhood, so any talk about this just makes me very happy.

[@selinnazsur2328]

Four months late but I was there when that happened... Both the OG Fusionfall and Retro. FF Universe's shutdown was devastating, ruined my week and still hurts to think about. Though wasn't there some issues with the devs of FFU being falsely accused of some gross things over Discord causing CN to go into PR mode and send them a DMCA? That's what I remember at least. If it's true I hope whoever made the accusation gets his comeuppance, I hate him. I'll always be sad and bitter about what happened, even if I get into the open source version some day. 😢

[@greywildflowers]

Interesting stuff. The editing in this seems a bit rushed but cool content. The skinwalker theory sounds intriguing and I wish you gave some more info about it. That Toy Box Killer stuff is crazy! I can't imagine being one of the victims. That's so horrible.

[@kokirigotrupees1071]

"You yourselves do not own...a pair of raycon earbuds" Me watching this with my E25's Bold of you to assume sir.

[@Alterbrap]

I'm surprised your didn't talk about the writer for the 2016 Powerpuff Girls series that would ship himself with Blossom from the show (who's in like elementary school) and would turn his fan fiction into actual episodes... P.S. would love to see you do an iceberg video on adult swim!

[@yanderetotodile69]

Bruh I forgot about that shit, probably because that show was just cringe in general

[@Mooms]

The character that was based on the writer wasn’t created by him, it was created by another person as a “joke”

[@biptari]

plus some episodes of that show are straight up fetish shit. never watched it but saberspark did a video covering one

[@arstulex]

@@biptari Totally Spies has entered the chat

[@arstulex]

@Dxity It's one of those things that was originally misunderstood and very quickly became overblown. It was originally pure speculation that the character was a self-insert. People quickly took it as fact, spreading it as such, and never really looked further into it. Then CN themselves had to point out that the writer in question wasn't even involved in the creation of the character. The character was actually created by a completely different writer who modelled it after him because they felt he fit the character and figured it would be fun to have him voice it too. The problem is this correction by CN garnered nowhere near the same amount of attention, so people like OP still falsely believe the "self-insert" myth. A lie can indeed be half way around the world before the truth has even put its shoes on.

[@andrewmavaddat6433]

Great iceberg video

[@Hollowdude15]

Cartoon Network tv shows was a work art and masterpiece! I hope you do an adult swim iceberg next :)

[@LittleDarkLies]

The only thing about the Steven Universe thing that doesn't make sense to me is that fans of the show literally "simp" for the characters and draw their own OCs with them and that's seen as fine but when the creator who built the character from the ground up does it, it's considered weird.

[@jamescole7614]

Fans creepily sexualizing underaged cartoon characters is seen as normal, but a cartoonist doing it is somehow salacious! Classic double standard. Some Cartoonists draw beautiful adult content, my comissioin from a former Disney animator in he 70's/80's (so ya the detailed stuff from when Don Bluth worked there) cost me $500. Rebecca Sugar's choice of subject being children is concerning however, cause yes context and subject are important!

[@ripleyandweeds1288]

Its mainly because modern day fandom doesn't see the creators of these shows as actual human beings who own and have authority over their creations and just see them as content machines or their 'friends' who they can treat anyway they want. Plus back then there was a way bigger seperation of communication between the fandom and the creators, in our day and age with Twitter and other social media sites its too easy for some random fan to talk to their favorite creator and know more about them, therefore making it easier to harass them.

[@jamescole7614]

@@ripleyandweeds1288 That is a pretty big contributor also the age of the fans contributes as many are teens or young adults. People who have yet to grow out of wild hormone swings and the general narcissism most people suffer at that age (you feel the world revolves around you, that only you have REAL emotions) and social media platforms like Twitter feed that mind set. The fan comes to believe they have a Right to the creator's time, a right to make demands and the creator is required to fulfill thier demands for free. Creators who listen to these toxic fans frankly ruin thier projects and ones who make projects aimed to incite that kind of fandom create bad projects. I feel like Steven Universe and Adventure Time tried way to hard to appeal to the Twitter/Tumbler crowd in later seasons, the message got in the way of the story. Though CN's worst crimes are still Teen Titans Go, Thundercats Roar and the Powerpuff Girls reboot, they made these shows because they where cheap and it's easy to make memes from them.

[@foxthewatersnail4999]

It’s an adult drawing children porn it’s honestly pedophilia and they should be arrested

[@jamescole7614]

@Dxity Oh it's pretty common in a lot o fandoms, fans simp for the character and become overly emotionally attached to the idea of who they think the character is and make a OC as the character's perfect partner. Of course said OC is a thinly veiled self insert. These fans will flip out of the creator introduces a love interest for the character they simp after. In every fandom there are people who impose thier own version of the characters and will absolutely lose it if you question it or then show doesn't go the way they want. There are rill Harry Potter fans who HATE Ron Weasley because they wanted to see Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson as a couple. Once Hasbin Hotel finally comes out soooooo many fans wll lose their shit because it isn't exactly what they expected and the characters don't pair off

[@destinedforgreatness3030]

As a kid that was born in 2000 I really loved Cartoon Network I loved the 90s shows that carried over to when I was a kid and also that came out when I was a kid I miss these 2000s shows

[@pwned2231]

YEEEEAAAHHH baby this is what I have been waiting for!!! 🥳🥳

[@fandomsnake]

I actually remember seeing a small bit of the Dexters Labratory episode you're talking about! I remember seeing the rude Dede and Dexter coming out of the pod before me and my grandmother changed the channel. Or maybe I'm just remembering something that never actually happened. It's hard to tell

[@quartzossie]

Was expecting a ton of purgatory/coma theories in the fourth tier, pleasantly surprised to see the Scooby Doo one actually held water.

[@raven666447]

The Purgatory Theory for the Edd, Ed, and Eddy show actually doesn't work! It doesn't take into account the movie that aired right before the last season, where we do get to meet Eddy's older brother (he sucks). Also, the last season starts with summer ending and all the cul-de-sac kids going to school together. If you want to go down an interesting and weird little rabbit hole, there's also a fandom wiki for a secondary Edd series that never aired. The series is incredibly detailed and the person who wrote it heavily features their own character as one of the main characters.... It's very bizarre.

[@otdreamer193]

I remember learning about that show but cant remember the name to look it up.

[@braydenmunster8713]

I remember the total drama scene. It was also aired in Australia since it had cartoon network airing on the weekend. I distinctly remember it uncensored because my grandmother was glancing at the tv, since the kitchen was open concept into the living room, I got reprimanded for it. She banned it in the house, never to watch TD at her house again. Since this always aired at least an hour on the weekend. I had to change the channel or result to disks when I visited. Not really much to go on but my word. But this is a crazy revelation

[@sushiroll66]

The “Rude Removal” episode of Dexter’s Laboratory was definitely aired in Romania in the early 2000s. I remember rude DeeDee with her messy hair vividly. I was too small to make sense of the title pic though.

[@TXRcos]

Dude when i first found out Ace was in Gorillaz, I literally went ape shit. A character from one of my favorite shows as a kid joins my favorite band as a adult. WTF more could I ask for?!?!?!

[@Artjoxas]

I love your iceberg videos. You do a great job explaining them.

[@LucreciaCrescentIsBestGirl]

My favorite thing that I wanted to see on this iceberg was Giant Robot week. For a while, there was apparently an event where, for a week, they would air episodes from various mecha/robot shows. One of the shows that they decided to air was Neon Genesis Evangelion. They only aired two (very censored) episodes of Evangelion before stopping.

[@jasper8178]

Editor slept a bit on this one, still great video!

[@StealthViper212]

Pearl is very much not young. She looks like a literal adult and is considered one

[@divine555]

Tbh while she is an adult she does look like a teenager, a tall one

[@StealthViper212]

No, not really

[@CaloBrown]

Tiers 1 and 2 was just a nostalgic overload, so much came back to me so fast I literally hurt my cheeks smiling at it, and if I am to take a guess as to why much isn't found on CN as far as controversy is because cartoons in the past. A lot of what would be considered controversial today, was done back when people didn't look to deep into it, (ironic I know) but cartoons using profanity, adult references, and racism were depicted in a time that no one bothered to speak out on it.

[@TheFreshPrinceOfSaiyans]

I need the Johnny Bravo narrating the Dragon Ball Z episode with my whole heart.

[@tommieberryjr.3843]

i'm surprised he didn't mention of the Steven Universe rape vs seduction/deception dilemma with Pearl & Garnet.

[@snakesonaframe2668]

I’ve never heard of the scooby doo depression theory, but I like it because I always wondered why everything was always so dilapidated in the show.

[@unwantedaccount4404]

Pearl looks young to you? She looks like she in her mid 20's. The segment this comment was made from was removed [I guess] so just ignore this comment.

[@KingOfGaymes]

I always saw her as 35 💀

[@2ndpartycrasher954]

When did he say that though, i looked through the entire video..

[@unwantedaccount4404]

@@2ndpartycrasher954 idk if he cut it out, but it was originally the E.T finger guy, him talking about a guy drawing images of pearl [here was the origin for this comment], then sugar drawing Ed Edd and eddy. But now it's gone, it had to be there at some point because 37 people agreed with me and 1 comment that he thought she was mid 30's.

[@rexrip1080]

15:30 I remember this Dexter episode, it has aired in Balkans in the 90's. It was actually on Tv. We did bootleg a lot of stations from the neighbouring countries so it was not aired on tv exclusively in my country...

[@grimtwin5581]

You won my heart the second you mentioned Yu Yu Hakusho

[@mr.tomasiorubinshtein]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Evil Con Carne at all. It had some disturbing stuff there: 1. In the pilot, the show's protagonist, a talking brain, was chewed and spat by a soldier. 2. General Skarr, a popular character, is rumoured to be based off Nazis, although it was never confirmed that he actually was a Nazi. When he was introduced in Billy and Mandy, he made a salute similar to what the Nazis did. In the episode "Emotional Skarr", he wears a hat with an eagle that is similar to the one used by Nazis in propaganda. 3. Whenever there was an action scene in ECC, sometimes you could see General Skarr's bones visible, probably dislocated. 4. The show sometimes had a certain dog whose name I forgot. In "Ultimate Evil" he was eaten by a bear and was never seen again. 5. In the final episode's credits, Skarr was executed after a failed siege on London. He asked the executioner if he could be saved, but he answered that he "ran out of luck". The execution was not seen. 6. In the show's intro, it is said that Skarr likes to kick puppies. In the Billy and Mandy video game, he actually confirmed it. 7. Speaking about the video game, the brain's bear, Boskov, whom he used as a replacement body, makes a cameo in one of the stages, where he was used as a rug. This could mean that by the time ECC was over in favour of Grim Adventures, Boskov was hunted and made into a rug. If I'm not mistaken, Hector, the brain, also appears in that cameo, also dead. 8. Skarr's skin was peeled off by Boskov in "The Right to Bear Arms". You could see Skarr's muscles beneath the ripped skin. In that same episode, by the way, Skarr and Boskov's arms were switched by accident, so in order to get them back in their proper characters, a chainsaw was used. 9. I theorize that in Billy and Mandy's Christmas episode, Skarr made an Eichmann reference. Adolf Eichmann was a Nazi scientist who experimented on Jews. When Eichmann was kidnapped and brought to justice in Israel, he said that, in his defence, he was just doing his job. Skarr, when beaten by mall visitors who believed him to be the true Santa, said that "it's just a job!".

[@mati.benapezo]

I remember that episode of Billy and Mandy where Billy is blind and Grim tries to make him see again, and at one point he gives Billy "real" eyes. And the way the way he looks it's creepy and the stuff he sees with the eyes is as well.

[@TheoriginalBillBraskey]

Eichman wasn’t a scientist

[@ARDIZsq]

5:17 Actually, this is incorrect. Aniplex DOES have the distribution rights to FMA, Kill La Kill, and Gurren Laggan in North America, but they weren't the ones who created it. In fact, they didn't actually create any of those anime. (They may have had production credits on some, but other studios actually CREATED the anime) Fullmetal Alchemist was made by Studio Bones, Kill La Kill by Studio Trigger, Gurren Laggan by Gainax, Gintama was made by Sunrise (and only the DVDs were distributed by Aniplex), and Bleach is by Pierrot with Viz Media handling the distribution in NA (though Aniplex did handle the DVDs in Japan). Aniplex does own CloverWorks and A-1 Pictures, so some of THOSE anime you might be familiar with are: Fairy Tail, Sword Art Online, Seven Deadly Sins, Darling in the Franxx, Kaguya-sama, Bunny Girl Senpai, My Dress-Up Darling, and most recently, Spy X Family. 17:21 I'm pretty sure the uncensored version is fake, especially when you consider that there have been people who have made very convincing Total Drama content in the past. (I think some people almost made an actual season of the show themselves once too) I believe I also heard once that someone who worked on the show confirmed that the uncensored version was fake. Also, looking at the censored version, it doesn't look like a censored image added on, rather it looks like an effect that was just tracked on top of the shot. Like, it seems that the pixels just flip between random variations of her skin tone without reason, whereas if it was a pixel filter, you'd most likely see darker pixels near her nipples and lighter everywhere else. Also worth noting is that none of the pixels ever turn black (her outline color) or blue (the background color), seemingly indicating that the pixels are a separate asset overlaid on top of her instead of being a real blur filter. Now, they probably DID actually draw her breasts, but they probably didn't add nipples (kinda like a Barbie doll) because you know, they wouldn't be shown. Now if you choose to believe that the uncensored version with nipples is real, I probably can't convince you otherwise, but looking at everything we have available to us, I don't believe it is. (I think some streaming platforms even have the Canadian version of the show and it's still censored there.) 28:00 I mean, yeah, that's pretty fucking weird, but a LOT of artists who make it big started out by or have at some point drawn porn. Hell, most of the people in the anime and manga industry have drawn porn before going on to make wildly successful series, so it's not a stretch in the slightest for that to also be a thing in the western cartoon industry.

[@Goat_dood2]

I either saw the rude removal on Hulu or on a DVD collection of random cartoon Network episodes. The DVD had Fosters home from imaginary friends, Dexter's laboratory, and samurai Jack. I too remember watching the episode as a kid.

[@kingg023]

These types of videos always say it was "never aired" but I remember seeing these episodes as a kid like the heather topless scene

[@theMimicsBox]

I remember (though I've had a hard time finding the statement recently) hearing that the reason Chowder was canceled was because it "encouraged childhood obesity" during a time when our government was pushing for healthy eating during Obamas presidency. Not sure if it's true, but no matter the case I'm disappointed, especially knowing a Chowder movie was potentially in the work

[@Sea_Anemone]

I'm surprised nobody ever mentions the me-mow adventure time controversy. Allegedly they stole the character and made a fake contest to cover their tracks.

[@5cream5]

i rember

[@ma_junia]

14:20 We literally can't have basic slime/whip cream/milk gags anymore because of people who take cartoons too seriously and immediately think "haha funny bodily fluids that's inappropriate" lmao

[@elaynadiedinside]

I mean, to be fair in that scene specifically it does look a lot like.. ya know. But I totally get what you're saying