The Strategy of the Crusades, 1096-1291

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@iGabenewell
@iGabenewell 5 жыл бұрын
Its interesting that there was no mention of the island of cyprus, I had always assumed that was the most important strategic location on the east med.
@StrategyStuff
@StrategyStuff 5 жыл бұрын
Cyprus was important as a way station for the Italian war galleys: a typical galley with supplies for c.1 week and without reliable navigation on the open sea was heavily dependent on a system of naval bases (Crete/Greece/Rhodes etc etc) in order to make the Italy-Holy Land route. But its importance was still based on the availability of suitable bases/harbors in the Levant. After Baibars destroyed the Levantine harbors, Cyprus could only be a Crusader holdout/pirate haven, with no hope of retaking the Holy Land. This status was reinforced further once Baibars successfully redirected Italian trade to Alexandria.
@fabiosanti7153
@fabiosanti7153 2 жыл бұрын
@@StrategyStuff Please, produce new videos ... They are awesome!
@michaelhenman4887
@michaelhenman4887 5 жыл бұрын
If only there was a Christian power in the Eastern Mediterranean with a professional standing army, that was also opposed to the Muslims and could help out the Crusader states without having to send armies as far as Western Europeans would. Too bad there wasn't one.
@niccolorichter1488
@niccolorichter1488 4 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@aqui1ifer
@aqui1ifer 4 жыл бұрын
Especially after...uh...1204...cuz that happened...
@rosalind1635
@rosalind1635 2 жыл бұрын
Is this some kind of joke I'm not getting?
@michaelhenman4887
@michaelhenman4887 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosalind1635 The Byzantine empire was such a Christian power. The 4th Crusade dealt it a blow from which it could never recover.
@rosalind1635
@rosalind1635 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhenman4887 LOL. I'm slow 😵🥴
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 5 жыл бұрын
Considering the odds stacked against them, it's truly remarkable that the Crusader states lasted for 200 years. That Europe was able to undertake the enormous logistical effort required to launch numerous crusades speaks to not just the power of faith - a motivation that cannot be underestimated in history, for good and ill - but the extraordinary vitality of medieval European civilization.
@aksmex2576
@aksmex2576 5 жыл бұрын
Muslims at the time were even more divided then crusaders. With invasions from turks and later mongols and also some massive revolutionary style rebellions in iraq. All these wrecked the muslim world. Its only a miracle that islam was turned into a minor religion like judaism.
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was divided. But the Crusades were incredible undertakings based on sheer logistics alone. Just getting to the Middle East was a huge task, before you even had to fight for it.
@opakular
@opakular 5 жыл бұрын
But at the end of the day, the Crusaders, formidable as they were, could only take a small amount of territory. Muslims, although divided, kept the Crusaders hemmed in, and if Crusading armies dared venture further inland, they were halted by powerful Muslim armies. Contrast this to the Mongols, hailing from a land materially poorer and much less populated than Europe, yet they conquered almost all of Eurasia.
@TheTariqibnziyad
@TheTariqibnziyad 5 жыл бұрын
valar nah just thank venice for the logistics, also lot of islamic rulers helped them, belive or not Seljuks werent really conserned about islam. and Normans who represented the third of crusaders were used to move armies by ships throughout seas, Viking style.
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 5 жыл бұрын
Your comment partly reinforces mine because the Normans and Venetians were both Crusader forces at varying times, and therefore count as contributing enormously to the effort. And it wasn't easy for either of them. Yes, the Seljuk Turks weren't initially overly concerned with expanding Islam like the Arabs had been and only periodically expressed the same zeal for jihad. And the divisions in the Muslim world and alliances sought with the Crusaders absolutely helped the latter's successes. Interestingly, the last point would be true in reverse of former Crusaders and descendants of the Seljuks later on. Tamerlane was furious with the Venetians for transporting the Ottoman army to safety across the Bosporus after his victory over the Ottomans at Ankara in 1402, but Venice preferred the enemy it knew to one that it didn't.
@charleslathrop9743
@charleslathrop9743 5 жыл бұрын
King Guy didn't go to Hattin because Saladin was ravaging the countryside. Guy had positioned his army strategically to force Saladin to come to him on Guy's own terms. Saladin, who used seasonal conscripts, wasn't willing to commit to such a battle and would eventually have to withdraw when the campaign season ended. Guy fended off at least one other attempted invasion by Saladin in this way. The reason Guy was forced to fight at Hattin was because politically the Grandmaster of the Templar's and those in his faction hated fighting the war without fighting.
@SpiritoGuerriero
@SpiritoGuerriero 5 жыл бұрын
My favourite part is at 9:40, specifically the sixth crusade, when the excommunicated Frederick II negotiated with the Ayyubid sultan, Al-Kamil and in 1229, Jerusalem, Nazareth, and Bethlehem, were returned without pointless bloodshed. This is a clearly example of military vs diplomatic approach. (The treaty was a consequence of the 5th crusade)
@aksmex2576
@aksmex2576 5 жыл бұрын
It shows that even 800 years ago muslims and catholics could get along perfectly fine. All crusades were very pointless. Less about protecting christians than conquering muslims.
@slipperyturk5080
@slipperyturk5080 5 жыл бұрын
Frederick II was a coward who dodged his responsibility of committing to the crusade multiple times. He dodged the 5th crusade which ultimately saw the crusaders lose Dameitta. His constant stalling and dodging his duty damaged the crusaders efforts. The promise of the crown of Jerusalem is the reason he signed the treaty. He even agreed in the treaty to not intervene in any conflict between the Muslims and the Christians of Tripoli and Antioch. If Frederick II had actually showed up at the siege of Dameitta Egypt could have been under the control of the Crusaders. Even if he arrived earlier during the 6th crusade he would have restored much of Jerusalem. But his lack of interest in the movement and his personal greed ruined the affair. In other words. F*** that guy.
@slipperyturk5080
@slipperyturk5080 5 жыл бұрын
@@aksmex2576 No! It was more about restoring the holy lands to Christendom and less about conquering Muslims.
@AdamNoizer
@AdamNoizer 5 жыл бұрын
@@slipperyturk5080 I don't think it's that simple.
@cool06alt
@cool06alt 5 жыл бұрын
@@slipperyturk5080 Nah it was about acquiring lands. You do realize majority of the crusaders, the normans were raiding the christian lands like italy and balkan? Talks about irony here man. The Emperor Alexios was so scared meeting with one of the leader of crusader, Behemond because this guy was just raid byzantine coast with his father not a decade ago.
@cyrilchui2811
@cyrilchui2811 5 жыл бұрын
Crusade was on a dying course once they put their flag on the soil and declared themselves king or duke. Their little Kingdoms might have survived if they managed to FORCE tens of thousands of migrants from Europe to occupy the land, which would provide ample supply of soldiers for Crusade. Relying on religious orders to provide professional soldiers was simply inadequate.
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 5 жыл бұрын
What the religious orders were able to accomplish despite the odds is pretty remarkable regardless. The legends surrounding them got built up for real reasons, not just the stuff that now fuels conspiracy theories.
@hugowebs6479
@hugowebs6479 5 жыл бұрын
yeah. but this could have been solved by actually forcing people to convert to Christianity in the area, thus creating the seed for future generations of Christians who would be loyal to Jerusalem. this sadly was not the reason nor the crusaders goal. They didn't envision it as a means to conquer and convert masses of people - unlike what the Muslims had done in the past and would do continuously each time they conquered new lands - but a return of the holy places to Christendom. the Christian concept of a holy war isn't/wasn't as sophisticated or flexible as the Muslim Jihad.
@mab7727
@mab7727 5 жыл бұрын
and that's what the zionists learned ...
@Powerofriend
@Powerofriend 5 жыл бұрын
@@hugowebs6479 Though in large part I agree with you that religion makes for a potent tool in both; the cause of a Casus Belli, and after the conquest, the consolidation of gained territory through hearts and minds, I doubt that it ever ocured to the medieval European nobility to expand christendom toward the middle east. It simply server as a convenient dumping ground for second and third born sons to win their spurss before entering into either military service as a somewhat renowned knight or in rare cases winning a piece of land for themselves to look after and work for in one of the Crusader kingdoms. The main issue in expanding those kingdoms was that a well armed European Knight takes up a huge swath of area to equip, maintain and most importantly keep loyal to his liege lord. A liege lord might be able to entertain the territorial and social ambitions of a score of knights maybe even a hundred. but after that There is no real political unity. Kings would bargain away their taxed wealth and credibility to ensure the support of nobles that had collected sufficient numbers of retainers. But I digress. The muslim community in the area entertained a similar system of feudal vassalage to the newborn crusader kingdoms. Only that the local military elite or "Sipahis" were more numerous by far, for the simple fact that there was more developed land to grant them and thus maintain their numbers.
@ausaskar
@ausaskar 5 жыл бұрын
@@mab7727 Israel's demographics are fucking awful.
@CaptainHaddocck
@CaptainHaddocck 5 жыл бұрын
Not a single mention of the fourth crusade? The consequences were vast, significantly weakened the Byzantine empire, therefore destabilising the northern flank and shattering eastern and western christian relations so much that in 1453 there was a saying that it was better to be under Ottoman rule than Catholic. If the Byzantines had secured Anatolia to the borders of the county of Edessa, the world might have looked different today.
@Armorius2199
@Armorius2199 5 жыл бұрын
He is talking about the Crusader States of Outremer not those of Greece and Minor Asia.
@H41030v3rki110ny0u
@H41030v3rki110ny0u 2 жыл бұрын
read video description
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 5 жыл бұрын
Great channel man, deserves A LOT more views.
@BlitzOfTheReich
@BlitzOfTheReich 7 жыл бұрын
We should definitely collab on things like this. I honestly think you deserve more exposure. Your videos are very crisp although the transitions are a bit cheesy. All the best.
@looloowhiskey
@looloowhiskey 2 жыл бұрын
My initial reaction to the title of this video was: there was a strategy for the crusades?!
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 6 жыл бұрын
Aw, I thought I had a clever comment of "they had a PLAN????" But you already ruin the fun in the first min 😤
@TheTariqibnziyad
@TheTariqibnziyad 5 жыл бұрын
Why let that stuff ruin a GOOD CRUSADE ?
@ns7353
@ns7353 3 жыл бұрын
I thought you played civ before I saw this video, then I saw the little icons and now I know for sure that you do.
@Waterboyofsuperman
@Waterboyofsuperman 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative!
@0ld_Scratch
@0ld_Scratch 5 жыл бұрын
step 1: go on a crusade step 2: ??? step 3: profit
@oddballsok
@oddballsok 5 жыл бұрын
and THAT is why the US army today ONLY invades and occupies and regime change a foreign nation when they HAVE THE RESOURCES to fund this endavour after succes; oil, oil, oil. the crusades tought them that. Iraq yesterday..venezuela tomorrow. (and n Korea has noooooooooooooooooooothing...no oil, no exclusive mining...).
@fabiosanti7153
@fabiosanti7153 2 жыл бұрын
These videos are awesome stuff. Why haven't new ones been posted for such a long time? Please ....
@ClamTheClammy
@ClamTheClammy 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting channel and factual video.
@uninterruptedrhythm4104
@uninterruptedrhythm4104 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the Crusaders actually managed to coordinate with the Mongolians
@AO00720
@AO00720 4 жыл бұрын
Absolute Grass well they tried
@thethirdjegs
@thethirdjegs 2 жыл бұрын
just realized: Sid Meier doesnt mind us using his icons from his Civilization games.
@jangelbrich7056
@jangelbrich7056 5 жыл бұрын
Instead of strategy they might have thought more in religious terms - as far as the myths tell us. On top of that there was certainly a great deal of personal greed and longing for power, on all sides. It was interesting to see how weak both sides essentially have been in reality. The major factor both sides had to deal with, was the heat of the desert, as most of that land behind outremer is by large not inhabitable. The only "resource" both fought for was Jerusalem as the symbol of both religions. They do that to this day ... Then given that the "lines of communication" were limited to the speed of a horse, or a camel caravan even, it is clear that coordination was extremely difficult.
@ShahjahanMasood
@ShahjahanMasood 5 жыл бұрын
This is soooo cool
@daichukun
@daichukun 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the crusades. hidethepainharold.jpg
@Hussar-bt8sv
@Hussar-bt8sv 5 жыл бұрын
1204 was a mistake
@Timrath
@Timrath 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hussar-bt8sv And we're still paying the price for it.
@HistoryTimes
@HistoryTimes 5 жыл бұрын
There is a need to mention a bit more about the role of local Christians mainly Armenians in the crusader's strategy for conquering holy land.
@jansenjunaedi4926
@jansenjunaedi4926 5 жыл бұрын
This sounds similar to Israel's geo-strategy we see today. Keep the muslim world divided and fucked up, while slowly grabbing the all the geographical barriers. Seems they learnt well from the failures of the crusader states.
@StrategyStuff
@StrategyStuff 5 жыл бұрын
Well it's more like the Muslim world keeps dividing itself. Even under Netanyahu, whose policies one assumes would at least cause all Muslims to deepen hostility towards Israel, Muslims and Muslim Arabs have continued to divide themselves over Iran and the results of the Arab Spring. Hard to see a new Ayyubid conquest coming about under the existing international framework.
@usuarionormal6778
@usuarionormal6778 5 жыл бұрын
So the crusaders from japan kill a vampire
@charleslathrop9743
@charleslathrop9743 5 жыл бұрын
Richard chose not to attack Jerusalem because Philip of France was attacking English holdings in France.
@niccolorichter1488
@niccolorichter1488 4 жыл бұрын
no myth
@niccolorichter1488
@niccolorichter1488 4 жыл бұрын
Philip attack only after Richard was out of Holy land
@DarthPlato
@DarthPlato 2 жыл бұрын
Richard did not attack, because he knew the attack would fail unless the source of reinforcements from Egypt was shut down. In the absence of this, Richard withdrew.
@genovayork2468
@genovayork2468 Жыл бұрын
Spain did not exist and Genoa and Venice were not in Italy.
@therealoldnosey8689
@therealoldnosey8689 5 жыл бұрын
Why does he keep saying Utramaer? I've never heard of this region called that. I've heard of Syria, the Levant, Jerusalem, middle east, but never Utramaer
@StrategyStuff
@StrategyStuff 5 жыл бұрын
I thought Outremer best emphasized that I was talking about the Crusader regions (NOT just Jerusalem) and the Crusader point of view.
@xXxSkyViperxXx
@xXxSkyViperxXx 5 жыл бұрын
Outremer directly translates to Overseas. in spanish, this is called Ultramar
@xXxSkyViperxXx
@xXxSkyViperxXx 4 жыл бұрын
@rajat mehndiratta well if you call crusaders as overseas men, though usually ultramarino would be described for overseas products but im not a native spanish speaker to fully answer that
@Saracen.
@Saracen. 5 жыл бұрын
Some of the comments on here simply cannot fathom why the Mamelukes were more than a match for the Crusader Knights ! During the crusaders long presence the Muslims saw no need to adapt their armour to face the crusaders. The Muslims continuously fought each other and having heavy armour and travelling long distances in the burning sun to fight against muslim armies was a disadvantage, (lest we forget the crusaders never travelled inland to any extent beyond Jerusalem or failed miserably in the majority of times they did). This all changed when the Mamelukes focused their attention on expelling the crusaders & introduced larger numbers of heavy cavalry to specifically combat the crusaders and this is when the Mamelukes became more than a match one on one.
@IAmTheAce5
@IAmTheAce5 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, there was strategy? [video starts] Oh
@caronm15
@caronm15 5 жыл бұрын
Those civ 5 symbol at 0:52
@Rosemary-nx5pq
@Rosemary-nx5pq 3 жыл бұрын
I am from the part of Tripoli and from the north mount leb est of Tripoli
@artelislt
@artelislt 3 жыл бұрын
Baltics?
@rudi8192
@rudi8192 5 жыл бұрын
They should have listen emperor Emanuel, attack the seljuk and bring them out of Anatolia, he was olso willing to boster their armies with fast cavalry and infrantry wich would make crussade armies unstopable, and olso many rebeling byzantine generals isolated in anatolia would make thesw conquest easy. Their change of direction was the couse of byzantine crussade conflict. Than the second and third crussade would be succesfull. Olso anatolia would serve as a natural fortes for christian states against islamic jihads. Olso they would not provoke Saladin and Fatmid empire who were in war with Seljuk before crussades.
@ObscureGaruda
@ObscureGaruda 2 жыл бұрын
You need a better map
@cczz0103
@cczz0103 5 жыл бұрын
You should do Prussia
@Rosemary-nx5pq
@Rosemary-nx5pq 3 жыл бұрын
3:5 whattttt
@iuriepripa3171
@iuriepripa3171 5 жыл бұрын
Civ V goods this time ayyyyy
@maverikmiller6746
@maverikmiller6746 5 жыл бұрын
As you said from the beginning there can be no Crusade Strategy, because there can be no strategy that leaves all of Spain and North Africa to Arabs and charges straight ahead to some coastal city 1500 kilometers away, located in the enemy's heartland. Any descent Crusade would start 1-) Liberate Spain, thus secure land bridge to Northern Africa via Gibraltar (also change name from Gibraltar to something Latin while at it.) 2-) Start taking Africa back from west to east coastline, building kingdoms along the way that is easily supplied/reinforced from Europe through naval power. 3-) Take Middle/Eastern Mediterranean islands back from Arabs which are used for pirating raids, decimating European trade and peace. Reinforce with castles (like Rhodes) That would "permanently" reclaim Mediterranean basin and starve the Arabs long term, dropping them to some irrelevant local element in long term.
@Armorius2199
@Armorius2199 5 жыл бұрын
Yep just like that! Easy.
@anon_148
@anon_148 5 жыл бұрын
Except nobody had any interest in creating another power in an unified, christian Spain centuries earlier than it happened IRL.
@maverikmiller6746
@maverikmiller6746 5 жыл бұрын
​@@anon_148 3 Things: 1-) Yeah. You know who does not want a strong power in Spain ? Arabs. 2-) When "Holy Land" was captured there was no single kingdom, there were multiple ones, each were independent from each other. If desired so, after liberation Spain could also be separated into liberating forces' different Kingdoms. 3-) It was very much in the interest of "Western" peoples to have strong powers at geographical choke points and reclaiming the lands that were lost. Just remember this: 2/3 or around 60 percent of old Western ( or Christian) lands (roughly the Roman Empire territory) are lost to Muslim people's today... Let that sink in.
@anon_148
@anon_148 5 жыл бұрын
@@maverikmiller6746 Christians didn't hate Islam that much, remember that a few years later France and the ottomans became best buddies against fellow Christian states. The monarchs cared about their own power, and giving away free land to rival Christian states using the blood of their own soldiers is not going to help them much. Also I think it would've taken many campaigns to liberate the Iberian peninsula, and without a goal to unite everyone like liberating the holiest city in Christianity it would've never happened.
@AdamNoizer
@AdamNoizer 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@gastonlinares5593
@gastonlinares5593 2 жыл бұрын
They fight for survival. So, basicly, Israel is the 1940s electric bungaloo cruzade pretty much... 😂
@mishmohd
@mishmohd 4 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know what motivated the crusaders to begin with. What was unsaid but understood. Why would you attack and attempt to steal something which does not belong to you - how dehumanizing was the rhetoric at that time to moralize these attempts?
@StrategyStuff
@StrategyStuff 4 жыл бұрын
Well there were so many overlapping motivations for the crusades: Byzantines wanted help vs Turks, Pope wanted to mend the Great Schism under Catholic leadership, second sons in feudal Europe looking for land, the Italian republics wanting a better trade base, the inherent weakness of the Near East due to the Fatimid-Seljuk struggle...
@internetenjoyer1044
@internetenjoyer1044 3 жыл бұрын
It's hardly any wander what the motivation was. Aside from all the strategic, political, and personal piety components, you have a set of medieval civilisations with Christianity being the only thing uniting them, and another group with a strange new religion conquers most Christian lands; the motivation to take them back for Christianity is self evident
@DarthPlato
@DarthPlato 2 жыл бұрын
For the Byzantines maybe--not for Europeans.
@DarthPlato
@DarthPlato 2 жыл бұрын
All the Crusades were different. Talking about them, collectively, as the Crusades actually serves as a form of tunnel vision. A popular view by the first crusaders arose from the Pax Dei movement. Channeling their martial skills into something better than fighting each other. Sometime around the fall of Jerusalem in 1071, there was an end to pilgrimages from Europe, though the city changed hands a number of times. For most of these participants the pilgrimage was the overriding factor--the Normans were another matter. And of number of these were heads and heirs of great fortunes in Europe--not "second sons." Not sure where that myth comes from--possibly Runciman. The success of the First Crusade served as a template for future rulers, kings, popes to motivate potential followers and channel their beliefs, desires, fears into a weapon. Most of the participants of the first crusade departed as soon as Jerusalem was secured, which proves what their overriding priority was all along. What happened after that was up to a different set of actors.
@larrybedouin2921
@larrybedouin2921 2 жыл бұрын
Murdering hoards of ungodly men who served their God of forces.
@Timrath
@Timrath 4 жыл бұрын
Kudos for pronouncing "Outremer" correctly. Most English speakers - even educated ones - mispronounce it as "Out Reamer", which is silly. But even more impressive is how you correctly pronounce "Ghazi".
@Aristocles22
@Aristocles22 5 жыл бұрын
Mamluk cavalry was no match for a European knight one-on-one. There were just too many of them for the few knights in Outremer to beat.
@StrategyStuff
@StrategyStuff 5 жыл бұрын
A funny anecdote is how Muslim lances grew longer and longer throughout the Crusades, almost like they were trying to keep the Franks as far away as possible!
@cool06alt
@cool06alt 5 жыл бұрын
@@StrategyStuff This is funny, longer lances were to increase momentum and kinetic energy, also to defeat the infantry spearmen reach advantage. Yet this is ridiculized while 7 feet lance of Polish hussar that so long you need special sling to the armpit get praised.
@cool06alt
@cool06alt 5 жыл бұрын
I might argue that Mamluks are pretty much equal if not better than European knights. Theser were the armies that regularly beat mongols at their game and also receive very strict training. Ever heard crusader knights doing swimming, diving practise to increase endurance? Ever heard crusader knights doing polo game to increase horsemanship skill? Jousting in circular formation? Practising lancing while covered with burning candle just to train coordination? Who beat mongols cavalry by doing feigned retreat and ambushing them, while western knight need their stone fortification just to be successful against mongols onslaught? You had no idea what you are talking about.
@Aristocles22
@Aristocles22 5 жыл бұрын
@@cool06alt The Mongols lost almost every time they fought the knights of Central Europe. Their defeat of Hungary at Mohi was only due to Hungary's lack of modernization and the lack of the heavy armor and weapons used by knights in Western Europe. When the Mongols attacked Hungary a second time, they were beaten with ease, thanks to the upgraded Hungarian weapons and tactics, adopted from Western Europe. As for the other stuff you mentioned, the Mamluks took centuries to defeat a tiny number of European knights occupying a tiny strip of land clinging to the Eastern Mediterranean. If they were more than a match for a knight one-on-one, their greater numbers would have destroyed the crusaders kingdoms far, far sooner. Most of that other stuff you mentioned (like swimming) is nice, but it doesn't do much to improve prowess in combat. In short, you are the one who doesn't know what he is talking about. Even the Muslims of the time held the European knights in high regard, at least in terms of their combat prowess.
@oddballsok
@oddballsok 5 жыл бұрын
@@cool06alt wow..swimming....how come the young turks living in western europe suck at swimming then ? every summer dozens of turkish immigrant kids drown in swimming pools and in shallow lakes.. (heavy cavalry riders doing swimming sounds as stupid and ineffective (swimming in anatolia ??? mountainous region ??) as pretending they learned mathematics and navigation by the stars..all, and each Mamluk.....). You have no proof.
@veratikon7882
@veratikon7882 5 жыл бұрын
DEUS VULT!!!!!
@veratikon7882
@veratikon7882 5 жыл бұрын
We will retake Jerusalem!!!
@markdawson9094
@markdawson9094 6 жыл бұрын
Subs++
@Aristocles22
@Aristocles22 5 жыл бұрын
Bullshit. The Mamluk cavalry was never a match for a European knight one-on-one. Only by vastly superior numbers could the Muslims win in the field of heavy cavalry.
@FS-cu9uj
@FS-cu9uj 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂 die by your rage The mamluk soldiers start training from a very early age this why no one can match them And this is why the destroyed the mongols cavalry in ain-jalout
@Aristocles22
@Aristocles22 3 жыл бұрын
@@FS-cu9uj European knights began training as a page at age seven. They also had better weapons, armor, and tactics. Even the Muslims of the day deliberately avoided engaging them unless they had at least a 3-to-1 superiority in numbers, or something close to that.
@FS-cu9uj
@FS-cu9uj 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aristocles22 this is absolutely bullshit In battle of alyarmok caliphate destroyed the Eastern roman empire though they were heavy armored The muslims were around 70k The romans 200k Also another example is the battle of Al-mansora in Egypt in the nine crusade French knight got destroyed by the mamaluk Even king Louise the ninth got captured and imprisoned in ibn-lqman dar His large paid tribute to free him
@Aristocles22
@Aristocles22 3 жыл бұрын
@@FS-cu9uj Those numbers are gross exaggerations. The entire Eastern Roman military didn't have that many at any time! That account was garbage.
@Nutmegp
@Nutmegp 3 жыл бұрын
@@FS-cu9uj Bullshit, take your muslim lies elsewhere
@joshuapongwattana6252
@joshuapongwattana6252 5 жыл бұрын
Your premise is all wrong, there was a grand strategy. You'll have to go back and study the purpose of the Crusades. When you called Crusaders fanatics you imply they have a religious mental problem which is a juvenile way and completely biased way of looking at the situation. All the other periphery details are ok...
@averinus7706
@averinus7706 5 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with this. Crusades were a geopolitical calculation, given the Turkish conquest of western Anatolia. We can't understand this today, but Nicaea was one of the richest regions in Europe at the time, and untill then it had NEVER fallen to an occupying force. To put things into perspective, imagine if some hostile non-european power managed to conquer London or New York today, just giving you some perspective. The strategy thus was this: if Asia Minor has fallen, Europe will soon follow suit. What was to be done: reconquer Anatolia for the Empire and create a buffer zone (Outremer) and Eastern Anatolia which will prevent further Muslim incursions
@Hussar-bt8sv
@Hussar-bt8sv 5 жыл бұрын
@@averinus7706 I wish crusade was to renconquer anatolia instead of jerusalem too
@averinus7706
@averinus7706 5 жыл бұрын
@@Hussar-bt8sv I understand, but there are some things to consider. The heart of the Christian faith was under Muslim occupation, Syria, Palestine, Egypt, Lebanon, etc were **majority Christian** And as OP mentioned, important trade routes passed trough the area. It's a good question whether so many soldiers would answer the call to arms if the target was anything other than the Jerusalem itself
@tacitdionysus3220
@tacitdionysus3220 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I tend to agree. They were not a random act of misplaced piety, although that might have motivated / propagandised some of the participants some of the time. Factors include a desire to reunite eastern and western christendom following a request for support by the former to the latter (that didn't go well, especially in the 4th Crusade), diverting the frequent fighting (mostly for plunder) that was common in Europe to an external foe, a misty desire for 'liberating' the 'Holy Land' for pilgrims, and (underpinning much of it) a desire for adventure, glory and treasure by participants in far flung lands. More controversial are (i) the concepts of an adaptation / continuation / refocusing of the expeditionary Viking / Norman culture that had, by then become Christianised and permeated several key parts of Europe; and (ii) the effects of the Medieval Warm period which increased the population growth, prompted greater urbanisation, favoured younger demographics (more angry young men looking for trouble) and made travel (and the logistics of expeditionary warfare) somewhat easier. The colder times that followed ended the era, notably through dramatically lowering the population courtesy of the Black Death, and creating an oversupply of infrastructure and shortage of labour that effectively ended feudalism. By then the seeds had also been sown for the renaissance, the enlightenment, the spread of universities and rediscovery / development of scientific method; partly through the rediscovery of the Greek classics (notably Aristotle) largely lost in the West, but still preserved in parts of the Islamic world.
@ibrahimyilmaz4861
@ibrahimyilmaz4861 4 жыл бұрын
Brother Judas none of these places were mostly Christian at all. They had Christians *minorities* but nothing near a majority
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