Man I only recently just got here and I love your channel, the way you go into depth about things, the way you keep it simple but also highly detailed and great content. Keep doing what you do man, you deserve to make it big.
@Killerwins884 ай бұрын
I really hope they do something to keep the player base alive. I’ve really been digging this game for the past few weeks. Casual lobbies are dead and classic is full of juiced out fighters and cyros etc where it is hard to learn the game. Maybe have a map with bots for learning? Love the content and streams. Keep it up!
@xAndrzej423 ай бұрын
What about 3vs3 arena or mithril order mode? Its still decent. I cant imagine playing this game with such gear its just too expensive, unless these items drop in classic mode.
@ryanantheworld93284 ай бұрын
really good to mention casual loot players are learning enough to know how worthless the casual mode is but they havnt learned enough to compete with people who are experienced and have all purple so they just feel locked into classic or nothing im gonna do a video on these topics also ...really is a good game i dont know the size of the dev team but the sooner changes can be made the better
@Firebox7204 ай бұрын
@ryanantheworld9328 Yeah casual experience is important 100%
@АлександрЗайцев-ц9б4 ай бұрын
Game needs to change in order to grow, its a shame that this game is dying
@Firebox7204 ай бұрын
@user-ey7nm9zc3g yep fun game but changes are needed
@JamstaHonnn4 ай бұрын
I’m happy game is dying. Want firebox to stop streaming this already… was fun the first 1-2 weeks now game is sickening.
@Playmodik4 ай бұрын
Devs stupid
@kintsugi39324 ай бұрын
@@JamstaHonnn better than dark and darker xD
@Ltmoore880794 ай бұрын
The game is dying because all the try hards already have legendaries and think it’s cool to dice them and just go to casual castle killing everyone in 2-3 hits not giving new or existing players any chance to build up profit or get anything.
@NerdMeinster4 ай бұрын
I really REALLY hope mithril devs listen to your suggestions. These changes all sound extremely positive for the game and frankly needs immediate implementing
@Firebox7204 ай бұрын
@@NerdMeinster yeah... we will have to wait and see what happens
@PeXis4 ай бұрын
Me and my two friends were like 2 games away from quitting the game until we finally won a fight. It took us like 12 games before that happened. I guess we started too late to encounter other noobs. Since that first victory we've been doing well and usually win fights and mostly die to being third partied. The harsh learning curve might be one of the biggest reasons there are more people quitting than there are new players coming in.
@Chrislayer04 ай бұрын
Better loot in casual and more rewarding bosses seems like a great change honestly, because rats i believe was a symptom and the issue is the fact that is too slow to farm on casual and rogues rats entered with midar then killed mobs super quickly then get out with money, idk how to fix it honestly, like make the cyclops drop something that gives money i think Dark and darker has something like that, or maybe that would be an issue on itself, idk, but i know that i´ve went three times in classic fully juiced with full set and purple and then got oblitarated by a cryo but honestly that was probably a skill issue, im having fun on casual but is super slow even killing elites and cyclops Great video btw, preist has been very fun con clothos
@nawhz62924 ай бұрын
bro your charged mace attack hit for like 170 damage. thats crazy bro
@SeanAmsler4 ай бұрын
I love this game. Everyday I come home, I want to go Into the dungeons and loot like crazy. What I don't want is to spend the entire game looting. Only to be someone's pin cushion, die, and basically I was a slave gatherer for the better kitted player. Better fighter than me. Or a rat who waited for me to get slapped once by any ai to have that hp advantage when fighting that only ends in my death.
@nameless43604 ай бұрын
Yep. Loot for 10 minutes just to die when extracting by a rat. Sucks man. Just been grinding casuals at this point. I've got 3 mill gold and go in with common gear just to fight and have some fun
@Delta-u5f4 ай бұрын
I know I have hella bias towards destiny 2, but with that game dying and the drama surrounding it I really am surprised to see more games not copying core destiny mechanics. Clothos trial on paper is just trials of Osiris which I thought was cool. But if they want to really dramatically increase player count, a pve mode is needed. I’ve heard so many people talk about “I just wish it was pve” or “I wish I could avoid pvp” both online and in personal experience. Having the ability to earn uniques and legendaries with grind time in pve that you could then utilize in pvp (and lose in this case) is a core part of why destiny players love the game. Bringing pve players to the game will in turn bring more pvp because they’ll at least try it a couple of times and they may end up liking it, and more people would be willing to try because if they don’t like it, they still have game modes that they can go back and play without stress.
@Delta-u5f4 ай бұрын
Also this is the only extraction game I’ve played and liked. I saw Tarkov and knew I’d never enjoy it, I saw dark and darker and thought oh ew it’s pvp, and then I saw dungeonborne and was like oh another pvp game, but then I saw the heirloom system and the dice to keep some of your stuff and saw the fun more arcadey stuff like mimic potions and thought that looks different. And I promise you if I could like an extraction game, there are others that would too.
@FreshFish4204 ай бұрын
I want a survival mode against difficult monsters
@TheGanjaBob4 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for a conversation video about the current state, and i agree with all of it! you forgot the sword that literally heals you to full life after a kill. lol like wtf? The other thing i think they need to do is make the auction house where you can sell any item you want cause I'm sure half of all our money is going down the drain is just gambling for loot. Especially if you don't have a lot of money to begin with and you end up spending enough money to get 4 full sets but barely have one shouldn't have to buy gear in multiples in hopes to get 1. Also this 25% auction fee is ridiculous why does my fantasy game take a literal 1/4 of my earnings i thought i was trying to escape the real world? They better do something soon, because I'm with you its going to be time to move on soon if it just stays like this and especially with no real communication on the future.
@lashello4 ай бұрын
LOVE IT
@iMuTee4 ай бұрын
you keep saying "high TTK" but you mean "low TTK", the lower the TTK, the faster you die. And I 100% agree, TTK is ridiculously low in high gear lobbies, especially druids with storm caller, rogues with maxed gear and gale flight. It's not fun.
@Firebox7204 ай бұрын
@@iMuTee oh yeah I think people got my point though my b
@POTATO-pl8kt4 ай бұрын
Yeah. If you have storm caller, you are in high level gear
@Zuteage4 ай бұрын
devs need to pull their heads out the sand, instead of these weird ass balance changes they made to rouge today, i agree with every point you made i hope they change something sooner than later untill then ill be putting my time else where
@l1wzEqsWwy4 ай бұрын
Are you going to go back to dark and darker after the wipe this week? Not that I don’t mind this game but just wondering
@Xamothth4 ай бұрын
I think the game is really good in the current state and promising, and the devs are busy cooking the upcoming content... However the current balance is off and this is pushing players away, which is a shame... They need to spend some more time on that to make sure the players that want to play the game in its current state can !
@Xamothth4 ай бұрын
Also what was that fight against the druid ! What was he doing haha
@Desode4 ай бұрын
Can anything be done with this class in a Solo all green build? or are you just totally screwed?
@NerdMeinster4 ай бұрын
Priest really needs external sources of damage. The base kit just doesn't do enough. I don't think you can play priest without gear at least not solo
@Drarcaon4 ай бұрын
Nice build but I must say this, the flaw that I see in this game with the matchmaking is the fact that it punish those undergeared people for playing in classic. What I mean is, as you can see, you can enter with a legendary item and getting a 49 gear score, and you can enter within a lobby with people with 15 -20 gearscore (and of course with other high level gear score). My point is, that if there is people that has played more the game, has more money and can gear themself to those highs, those aren't all the people there are and not have enought money to get a high level gear to try to be on the same level as those people. The gearscore to enter on classic is just the minimun you need to be able to wistand the PvE aspect of it, and you can get that with only greens, but if in your same lobby there are people with gear over 25 or 30 or over 40, if you find them, well, most likely will bite the dust. I think that the pople that enter on classic with a gear of around 15 are those that don't have the means yet or the money to get better gear score (or they are saving). Those "undergeared" and those with high gear are entitled to enter those modes, of course, but guess who is going to get stomped more often than not when they meet. Yeah, I know... this is a PvPvE game, this is how it is envisioned, but this won't be healthy for the game when you can have a singular person to be able to stomp a full lobby of 11-13 people and losing all the gear you were able to farm or buy.
@Drarcaon4 ай бұрын
To be constructive about this issue, there are many things that I would suggest to improve the situation. One that I would like to see is some points in the map where you can extract the gear and items you have "adquire" without leaving the game to be able to at least save some in the case end up dead. I could be something like an NPC or wheel where a thief guild is waiting to get your stuff out in exchange of some cash. As we all know, there is gold that can be farm by midas or by breaking stuff. Let's say that you need at least 100 gold to extract an item, 200 for 2 items and so on. That way it cannot be so easy to be exploited. I also would spawn one of those extraction points for each player inside and once you use one, it disapear. You could also say that this will be used by "rats" that could just wait invisible near those extration points to try to farm you for going there. A fair point indeed, and sadly I wouldn't know how to fix that issue that it isn't to just search por any player that could be near.
@citizenred16844 ай бұрын
I agree with the balance changes you suggested especially with the loot in casual games. It’s not really fun for new players or rewarding.
@xAndrzej423 ай бұрын
With the next update where they remove these cubes and you no longer can save an item, prices of items will moon
@amorrious4 ай бұрын
I agree with buffing loot in casual, and one thing I think they should do if they wont do that, is add GBMM to classic, because I want the good loot, but I dont want to put in all purples because thats the people I will run into, I dont think the high loot reward should come at the price of bringing all purples soley because of the players and not the dungeon itself.
@leejason34184 ай бұрын
Change BGM when?
@JKKCO4 ай бұрын
I agree and this is just sad that it’s dying I’m very disappointed at what they are doing and if they don’t change gg’s I guess.
@Mattytdawgmang4 ай бұрын
All of the buffs/nerfs we can talk about for ages. But an IMMEDIATE fix for all brackets across the board would be smaller lobbies. Nothing worse then winning 2 or 3 of the biggest fights of my life, only to get bonked on the head by a 4th or 5th party. I don't see ANY reason for a solo lobby to have more than 8 players. 10 in duos and 12 in Trios. The maps are SIMPLY too small.
@blubasaur90534 ай бұрын
You know, the player base may be dying. But it could be worse. It could be like concord.
@lordgrave574 ай бұрын
Check out Chiv 2 Guy
@voldimore54484 ай бұрын
i think the atk/def level thing needs to go it's an added bonus to higher gear, that is already stronger set bonis also need to get looked at
@sethsonnier58434 ай бұрын
Gear cap casual lobbies to 15 max gearscore. Classic minimum entry is 15 gearscore. Casual is easy enough for new players to grow and not appealing enough for Classic players and smurfs. What you guys think about that idea
@nicholasluckey39214 ай бұрын
love this game but judging class nerfs and buff based on choice % when you are asking them to focus play a class every week then nerfing them because the choice % jumped is crazy
@sethsonnier58434 ай бұрын
There's no reason to contest bosses or even mini bosses. Look at games like League of legends. There's a reason to want to fight a boss you get something that's worth it and rewarding to put yourself at risk for a fight and a desire for the team to attempt to deny, steal, or contest it
@lukarito4 ай бұрын
try weapon damage instead of max damage alot of abilitys scale better with that
@Dargaud894 ай бұрын
The Legendary / Unique items combined with the dice mechanic are really problematic in my opinion. Zero risks for a very high reward in a game that should have a risk associated with bringing such powerful items into the match sounds like a bad idea and getting destroyed by better gear never feels good. Possible solutions... ... Legendaries / Uniques can't be diced (-> we probably won't see them anymore) ... As soon as you equipe a legendary / unique item you get put into a separate queue (probably not possible because that would probably mean, that those games are empty and people just get to freefarm) ... Massively nerf the items (a bit unfortunate as some of the items have very interesting / unique effects but it's just unfair right now) ... Massively increase drop rates for legendary / unique items (to make them more accessible) Just some ideas, but I honestly don't see a clean / easy solution to this problem. Edit: Just removing the stupid dice mechanic entirely also possibly fixes this.
@ApollonianSoldier4 ай бұрын
Literally sweated my ass to win some fights lately only to get piss-all because they had diced their leggies. Double the effort, less reward (cause at least if they had a good purp weapon I could sell it). What a shitty, whale-feeding game mechanic imo.
@Dargaud894 ай бұрын
@@ApollonianSoldier I agree. Kinda an RMT incentive, too.
@carterfn59394 ай бұрын
I used to hate the dice system until I got my first legendary and realized how much I enjoyed it. First off in this game unlike many high risk games the legendary and time slot gated and feels almost impossible to get in game so you pretty much have to buy one if u want one. Imo I think being able to dice one legendary makes it worth the grind rather then putting in 200+ hours to get an item and losing it instantly. If this game had no dice with stuff like clothos being in the game no one would bring in there legendaries. However it’s FUN if you own a legendary to bring it that’s part of the appeal and that makes the grind worth it. I think once almost everyone has a legendary ppl will be a lot more open to the system. Dice also get expensive I didn’t respect the price but sometimes I’ve paid more over 50k on dice alone for one match. This makes it so I don’t even bring the legendary in most the time unless I am going all out. Bottom line is I was a dice HATER like a big hater until I actually had to start using the mechanic and realized I do think it has a place in the game. I don’t think this game is aiming to be as hard core with the risk everything mentality which is why they have game modes u can play where u risk nothing and have seasons so you’ll always keep your gear. I personally enjoy games where I can keep the gear u worked for not have it wiped. I think if you want a risk it all game more hardcore I think that’s where Dark and darker comes in which is where many ppl will go back too
@SuperDarkBankai4 ай бұрын
I lost a 17th key and a white star sword (both diced in different games and 10 day apart) from wrong justice bringer bug or w/e (mojito bean told me he didn't lose diced items when it happened to him) support says check your firewall with the same automated messages that they send to everyone with the problem and say no refund for these things😂 Which they are not even acknowledging , still not patched or said a word about it . How am i supposed to play with good gear if i might just get randomly "unjustice bringered" out of nowhere. Support is just bots,posts are useless ,devs or the community managers don't respond... Game might be dead already if they don't take some responsability, gameplay aside 😅 And i say this as a person who already put almost 100 bucks into it. They do not care.
@ag0nii4 ай бұрын
Don´t know why the player base is on the decline in the US but here in EU the population is high. Almost always full lobbies and if not full then atleast 10 per match. Though i think the game is dying because of the things you talked about. The casual players "IE" me, are getting dumpstered on casual by high geared players. And it´s just not a good time. Me as a beginner to these kind of games stops playing the game if the sweatlords take over too much and i feel that is what has happened in this game. It´s just not fun for a casual player anymore. Not everyone can sit and grind this game out for hours everyday and get better gear and eventually get better at the game. It´s not a good system what they have atm and i hope they fix it because i really want to play the game cuz it´s fun but the fun stops after seeing ppl with full blues and some purples t-bagging on you in casual.
@user-bi7ue8vg3z4 ай бұрын
Disagree, in casuals i have like 6 players (EU)
@sadasdsadasdas8514 ай бұрын
the game is imo just a more casual dark and darker with whacky things such as the set bonuses, it has the same issues dark and darker has in terms of players like me who dont want to buy the market pass preatty much unable to sink our teeth into the game and with how the game is ( really dumbed down) it makes it realllyyyy hard to acutally kill people with market access getting ktis with multiple passives up and potentiall set bonuses. i quite quite a while ago and it was mostly due to that issue of no progression cuz i dont want to buy the market pass, the game also just feels janky when i can put my shield up and have such a big dmg reductiuon from all dmg in 1 direction and lastly the progression felt horrible.
@luckytofu96174 ай бұрын
I went in classic. Found a crypto with fairy ring. 4.5m build vs 80k build. After I die. I found a trio working together in a solo lobby. 😂. Too much problem, Its hard to imagine dev fixes everything n revive the game.
@chadsummers22914 ай бұрын
Sinner's End is a better casual map. Once you learn the golden chest/red seal chest locations and the goblin mage/undead mage/evil eye locations. Easy 20k in casual every game. Just sucks that sometimes game will start with 1 person. It should take more than 2 secs for it to find a match and there should be a min player count before starting like 5 maybe. Absolutely zero reason for games to start the moment you search only to find 1 person
@indysrebel51814 ай бұрын
Too many things snare. Stormcaller without snare would be fine. Feary without the shield perk would be a reasonable nerf. Storm rage tier 3 should either not bounce at all or deal half dmg and still bounce. Pretty sure these things would be best options without complete reworks and still make them usable.
@sethsonnier58434 ай бұрын
I love this game, it's dying they literally won't fix matchmaking. Look at dark and darkers upcoming announcements they are giving them the matchmaking that people in dungeonborne are asking for Just give us matchmaking!!!!
@Xnate13X4 ай бұрын
9:45 It's not the ring man.. It's definitely Cryo. I've ONLY used FOTL on my priest (I main priest) and it was OP for other classes but was PERFECT for priest duo/trio, the set was amazing. Then instead of nerfing Cryo/SM/DK/removing LOH from the game, they decided to just do 50% reductions of things which is still not enough (not even nerfing SM at all) which had no effect in changing meta. FOTL is now pretty crap for priest but still my favorite, but lacks the support it once had. I think it should have been changed for all classes, but function originally for priests only. At the same time, they've been absolutely gutting rogue and killed the class making it more and more viable to only play as a ranger class. The fact that they have just been tip-toeing around "fixing" things and not just straight up removing life gain from the game besides healing meds & priests/fighter Q, destroying rogue, not actually fixing the real problems has caused this. There should be no way on earth that any class should have a healing method when you have a class specifically made for that role. Also, it makes having to plan using meds and be smart. Fighter gets a pass because I think the short duration of heals and damage increase is very well balanced, in all fairness. AOE's also all need to work the same. Some AOE abilities hurt allies while others don't. They ALL should cause friendly fire or NONE should cause friendly fire. You can't pick and choose, it should not be that way. I have a screen shot of 0 people in my duo lobby besides my buddy and I, from a week after LOH meta when everyone was quitting and gave up on the game. It's sad. -Edit: I bought the legendary orb and my buddy and I also quit during that time too. It was fun. 300hrs in 3weeks play time :p
@Lerciezje4 ай бұрын
economical situation in the game will only grow worse and more hostile to new players, because of lack of seasons and therefore resetting, inflation will kick in and even greens will become ridiculously expensive with time, DB devs picked a lot of bad decision here and it starts to show, but yeah, taking a single heirloom item and landing with purple decked people did the damage already and these casuals will never return, I know I won't, I'll stick do Dark and Darker, combat is more hardcore, but economy is incomparably more friendly.
@Painjusu4 ай бұрын
"Very expensive" - just the ring alone is 5million+ with dmg%. On EU you only play the same 10 people btw, I see no future where the game doesnt die. :( they patch the game once in 5 years, it's sad. 5million bugs, balancing etc. and nothing happens
@Firebox7204 ай бұрын
@Painjusu yeah I paid 4M for it, extremely pricey
@AnEnemyAnemone14 ай бұрын
"they patch the game once in 5 years"... what?
@geronuis22954 ай бұрын
@@AnEnemyAnemone1 right? like once a week with fairly substantial changes
@christopherclark40384 ай бұрын
I havent touched the game since rogue was gutted, if it was a "cheap tactic" to farm goblins without people bothering me so i can pvp geared later than thats cool. Ill just take my "lame tactics" to some other game dude. Still watch people play it though same as tarkov but ill never play tarkov again at this rate.
@guerrero20154 ай бұрын
i love how firebox got coocked the whole stream and only piece together the good fights
@Firebox7204 ай бұрын
@guerrero2015 This was off stream and I never died during this gameplay. Nice try though
@psyencefiction97434 ай бұрын
I've already moved on from Dungeonborne. At least for now. Being in Australia and having no choice but to play with 180 ping just makes everything so much more difficult, and dodging anything pvp wise nearly impossible. They promised Oceanic servers, but it's still yet to happen. It's too time consuming to get a decent enough set, just to lose it because of ping dif. Nevermind that, from my experience anyway, the community is fairly toxic. I quit league to get away from that crap ages ago, never thought I'd find a community that competes with that lol. The discord is just a e-peen contest degen-fest. Heaven forbid you ask a question cause then you're a scrub and heaven forbid you complain about horrible balance issues cause then you just need to "get gud". And the mods don't give a crap about people just being complete knobs. So yeah. DB is a no go for me for the time being. Haven't gone back to Dark and Darker since either cause that's a whole different crapfest. At least they had Oceanic servers though... So I spose no fantasy looting extraction shenanigans for me anytime soon.
@josheror24554 ай бұрын
My thoughts from a terrible player: getting rolled sucks, but worse is the time taken gearing back up to play again. For greens and blues there needs to be a template players can save. I should be able to click one button to buy my base kit back. At purples and above, yes, I earn them or shop/hunt/browse etc. Mobs need to be a bigger threat in the game. The way I see players ignore them seems silly. I don't know if that could be tweak simply by positional hits like a back or flank strike from a monster doing way more, or perhaps it just stuns/slows. Right now the creatures are crappy (on casual) loot pinatas. PvP takes ALL priority and concern for the environment goes to zero. Some way to practice against a training dummy that hits back and/or uses abilities in the training level. Or a different game mode. Anything to help get the muscle memory down for basics would be welcomed.
@Vanlifecrisis4 ай бұрын
I stopped playing after i got murdered repeatedly as a rogue. Seriously those nerfs seemed wild, they forced him to be a melee fighter when hes worse at it in every way than other melee classes. Stealth was worthless. And they did it based on pick rates after having a rogue event?? Then they had an event for druid that flooded the server with them, after buffing him even more with self heal. yay?
@tw1zz1334 ай бұрын
I had fun on this game for a bit , but now it just looks so boring and unfun to even watch. Game gonna die
@Zach-kw6bw4 ай бұрын
Been killed by the mistake multiple times. People are farming the timers and no outsider stands a chance to get one. Dungeonborne is going to crap sooner than later and the devs are lazy
@РомаПет-щ4м4 ай бұрын
first at all p2w, reason why they nerf rogue it's because this only way to f2p player farm gold, want gold, buy auction. F2p player can't compare against who buy. Set gear cost 30-150k no way f2p player will stay. And classic must have GBMM, or why classic exists? Progression 0 gs u go to the casual, take 15 gs u go to classic, 30+ gs GSMM put u against juiced
@mrtendollarman61574 ай бұрын
I agree with everything but let me tell you this. If someone cant affort 4 dollars/Euros w/e, they shoulnt spend their time playing video games but instead they should be looking for a job.
@marcusciochina65844 ай бұрын
@@mrtendollarman6157that's such a close minded thought, there are tens of reason someone could afford to pay and not involving working (kids, third country...etc) I could easily spend it, would I? No, this game is dying by the day. The system is stupid, gives opportunity to sells items for 300k. I get the merch and skins, but I never stand behind a pay wall that gives this much advantage in a game that is broken, and all the update then given don't fix no problems. It hasn't been 2 months since big KZbinrs made this game popular (Aculite, jackfrags ..etc) and it's already dying. While dark and darker is thriving more. Sorry dude but you either or bot or drunk
@РомаПет-щ4м4 ай бұрын
@@mrtendollarman6157 So I can afford 6$ but I don't wanna give them to someone who kill the entire class for this, and don't do any normal patches. Because money it's your vote. And im must be priest main
@Angelous9224 ай бұрын
what the hell was that druid fight!? worst 1vs1 i ever seen from both
@Firebox7204 ай бұрын
@Angelous922 Ever learn how to play a class or did you start good at all of them?