The Stupidest Trackmania Competition Has Returned

[@JosiahBradley]

The scary idea of Kacky Dip, 50 kacky back to back in one try....

[@Asphalt9Stuff]

no

[@ldub0775]

so deep dip lmao

[@XAnihilator]

Hello inevitable heat death of the universe

[@fjore_starseer]

Welcome to Final Enigma without checkpoints

[@zackswitch9656]

That could be fun, if they made it difficult to dead turtle

[@ca1ebyt6]

"i quit deep dip because it is too mentally draining" *plays kacky immediately after*

[@GewoonEenNick]

I miss deep dip 😢

[@mikIay]

haha

[@plumber1337]

How many DeepDip2 did he finish in 3 hours? At least he finished one Kacky map.

[@TOBYSHERIDANWHITEPOWER]

Kacky is pretty mindless though, its quite chill tbh

[@the_banshee6708]

Kacky is pretty chill and he can actually talk and have fun with chat deep dip was the opposite.

[@EvanCalli]

If trackmania were rock climbing, Kacky is the bouldering to Deep Dip's free soloing

[@noobkanon2]

This is a surprisingly good analogy

[@noobkanon2]

Deep dip might just be sport though, even though you have anchors, you're not aiming to start mid way off those. If you fall you start again from the bottom, just.. without the dieing ya know.. Free solo would be like a patience map easier tricks but more mentally challenging and a hardcore mode so you only get one attempt. To wirtual's point about DD though, the crux isn't usually the last section of a climb. You have difficutly that drains you in the middle-ish, and then your still have to work to the end, but it's in sight. You know you've beaten the hardest part and you just need to "focus up" to the end.

[@berryesseen]

@@noobkanon2 I wonder how a truly "free solo" deep dip would look like. Every account has one try only. If you fail anywhere, your account is eliminated. So you either give up or buy a new account.

[@TulipsinAntartica]

Kacky servers feel like a glimpse into the realm of eldritch gods.

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@willowk6320]

On deep dip 2: One of the things I really liked about DD1 was how dense it was in the tower. It had the perfect density so that you could fall all the way down, but more likely you would hit a dozen things first and get at least a chance or two at saving it. DD2 is way, way more open, huge gaps with no floors between where it's just nothing. If the floors were stacked on top of each other rather than mostly spiraling around, you'd be way more likely to drop an average of 3ish floors whenever you fell, which I think is desirable.

[@cavalierliberty6838]

Yeah, deep dip 2 seems like it should have been called "welcome to hell".

[@leodataco1151]

Skill checked

[@qandrshow-m7k]

he looks so young again

[@Anikin3-]

It's almost like he's still here with us

[@SemiCollin]

aged 10 years when he was playing deep dip 2

[@misourfluffyface1417]

Wirtual never fails to leave GothamChess out of his videos

[@dolger4308]

Wrong channel bro

[@dustinlykins3439]

Lmao

[@_TriGN]

?

[@SilverSlayer]

Lmaooo only high IQ people get this comment.. well done ♟️

[@sandro7]

I mean you’re not wrong technically…

[@Zenith-ly7pr]

If Deep Dip 2 just had more soft checkpoints, it would've been much better IMO. Just make certain floors have large safety nets, so that if you fall at higher floors you aren't always falling all the way down.

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@Tyler.8046]

ngl, it's even fine to have some jumps that send you back to the bottom, or at least significantly further down the tower, but when every jump does that...

[@RubyPiec]

The circle in the middle was evil

[@pyrefox]

When I watched your videos of Deep Dip, I sometimes thought "Wow, thank god this is edited, watching every attempt and every climb would be horrible". So I can't even begin to understand how terrible that thing is to PLAY. Congrats on getting free of it, but also congrats on how far you managed to get. Don't ever think it's your fault for wanting to stop, you're a person and you deserve better. Also, kacky is fun, yes! And fun to watch the craziness without the endless grind too.

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@m0002856]

Speaking on Deep Dip 2: I think they can build a mammoth of a map like they did, but they need to release it in practice sections simultaneously. And I don’t mean like a floor by floor breakdown, but maybe since the map has 16 floors you split it into 4ths. Floor 1-4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-16. Then, the challenge won’t feel as mind numbing. You build up practice runs to master each section but the final challenge is mastering it all without failing a single time. Just doing one run on Deep Dip even after you’ve gotten decently good at all of the tricks is still going to take a long time where you’re forced to focus HARD. And I think this would allow you to make the map even bigger and more difficult while not making people want to rip their hair out. Once the map is fully cleared, you can then release individual floor practice maps for players who really want to grind one specific section. I understand the challenge they want to go for with this, but I think building bigger and harder challenges doesn’t work well unless you’re giving people the ability to practice for the big full challenge.

[@joohm]

Or they should have made Checkpoints after floor 5/10/15. So you didnt need to drive from 0 if you fall from floor 14 or 16

[@hihitherethere1]

@@joohm Checkpoints would really ruin the theme of the competition, I would suggest instead moving the harder floors more to the middle, so players fall less from floor 14 or 16 and instead fall more from floors 7-9, which is a lot more manageable.

[@Alexey-qs6nr]

just add more pools

[@achnebe]

Just don't fall, EZ GG

[@MartinFlaa]

Its supposed to be hard, let it be hard then. Like what the fuck are you talking about

[@Clove_Core]

as someone who got into wirtual by kacky i love to see this come back!! also so many people are hung up on deep dip 2, just have fun playing whatever and we'll always be here to support!!

[@sveed2605]

18:19 kacky disrespect is crazy

[@salty3567]

For deep dip 3 they should put the super difficult floors inbetween some of the easier ones so it doesnt feel like your progression gets absolutely halted, and the dread of only having several more difficult floors ahead

[@known1443]

They just need to add more "floor" just before hard floors so that you have a better chance of being caught and only falling one floor. Falling all the way down should be a risk, no the result of any bad jump.

[@lalez88]

I am extremely happy that TMNF is still around and thriving. You can try all sorts of maps and things for free. Do I suck? absolutely, but I am having fun.

[@crankpatate3303]

I think deep dip 2 could have been great, if it had secret skip paths, that people could have discovered over time. Especially to skip the earlier parts of the climb and make it less of a grind. But they probably built it the way it is to make it the hardest map in the game and to keep a successful climb a testament of skill and resilience. Everything that makes it easier takes away from the prestige of getting to the end.

[@DrStuttersAU]

"Who will win Deep Dip 2?" "I can predict the fuuuture, it will be Bren" Narator: "Wirtual would be correct in his prediction"

[@Konrad_Kecskes]

"The real "deep dip" is the finishes we made during Kacky..."

[@stumpy990]

Can't believe they misspelled "best" in the title

[@paolocagliero8590]

I'm addicted to the green timer as much as Wirtual is addicted to hitting a wall over and over again

[@OfficialEsco]

People whining about Wirtual quitting Deep Dip 2, just go play Deep Dip 2 if you love it so much, you got like 2k hours of content

[@yokoyyang1264]

I’m too poor to play it :(

[@binchamers]

@@yokoyyang1264I’m to poor (at the game) to play it

[@jackivan7632]

15:01 SC has a Copyright detector that automatically blocks the upload if it detects too much similarity. even if its just the instrumental

[@ks_brittain]

4:01 YES PLEASE!! Like if you want new beginner friendly videos from Wirtual. I just got into the game and I need HELP

[@neon-rust]

It's baffling that people compare this to deep dip and think it's somehow similar... It would be similar if you had to redo all kacky maps from the beginning on every fail.

[@fisch37]

The amount of times this video has clips with viewers being like "meeeeeeee, gimme Deep Dip 2" is disappointing.

[@Mustard11]

Wirtual will be delighted to know that they are making a deep dip in tmnf

[@Jay_Playz2019]

Glad to see your usual bubbly commentary! Love it, that’s what I come here for!

[@pugsnhogz]

It's funny how mastery just shows through. I don't play Trackmania, and I just started following Wirtual maybe a month ago. But watching the first few days of Deep Dip 2, I also decided that Bren will probably be the winner.

[@WoodenBench]

positively glowing without the weight of the tower holding him down

[@ersgutertilman]

I wanted to start trackmania and was looking for a basic tutorial of the basic mechanics like sliding different surfaces and racing lines but i could not find any. If you were to do a tutorial series please not only focus on harder stuff like ice but also the basics for one video or so :)

[@fiskfisk33]

From deepdip to kacky, we are truly blessed

[@5ANDW1CHES]

the reset simulator is upon us.

[@DontWatchAdsJustRefresh]

Watching Wirtual is always wholesome. But kacky after deep dip hits different 😄

[@madcroc111]

I Wanna Be The Guy fangames have over 10 years history on building insanely difficult platformers. They figured the hard part first easy parts after thing a long time ago yeah. Good games do it always that way. Hard jump first followed by easy ones into checkpoint, then hard one again into easy ones.

[@brawldude2656]

Bro is so traumatised 2:35 💀

[@MegaDoorKnob15]

I know it’s so cringe

[@NussbertBeinhart]

Kacky is truly the TikTok to Deep Dip's 5h video essay

[@Bassalicious]

awesome to see TMNF back on the channel

[@DaimonWalker]

I have the solution for Deep Dip - dynamic floors. You beat floors 1-4, that opens stage 2 where floors 5-8 are unlocked but floors 1-4 are put on top of 5-8. Repeat this process until all floors have been unlocked, then have a final map. Essentially practice maps but reward would be unlocking the next sections.

[@Wreckzone14]

had the same problem with steering left after the start, just tap gas sometimes while the countdown is goin and it schould go away

[@NFSHeld]

The thing you're describing with DD2 is the reason why I never liked playing games like Flappy Bird, Icy Tower, but also Candy Crush where they make some levels super hard on purpose to coerce you into buying boosts, but it just means you will fail a 25-move-limited level over and over and over until you're out of trials for the moment, then have to wait, and then you try them again.

[@KyleBJobey]

Those Deep Dip 2 streams sure were entertaining to watch, huh. But glad to hear Wirtual giving up if he doesn't feel like it, no need to burn out over a vidya

[@csabaszita4777]

The chat is ready to be muted. TMNF is THE Trackmania. What kind of question was that?

[@ouwle6618]

Can't wait for Deep Kacky 3 to come out

[@katzendruide]

TM Nations brings back childhood memories for sure :D

[@BMB]

glad to see him play tmnf again :)

[@xaius4348]

Nice relaxing break from deep dip 2!

[@ordinaryadonis8711]

Now I know I’d never be able to do deep dip 2 in fact I don’t play so I doubt I could do any of these. But maybe deep dii 2 is exactly what they wanted. All the things you don’t like about it are the things they were going for. Idk. But maybe they wanted to make it as spirit breaking as possible.

[@realtimez420]

Its crazy cuz I watched this stream from the beginning and didn't even know, thought I was late

[@lakshaymd]

It would be cool to have a progress bar at the end of these videos like there was for the deep dip 2 videos.

[@SlippyLegJones]

Imagine 17 kacky maps connected vertically and you have to do them all in sequence without failing any.

[@dracozeon_]

Do you plan on doing the desert discovery sometime in the next little while? I had so much fun playing it and would love to watch you play and learn more about the desert car

[@stemba16]

At 19:32 i felt like my soul disappeared, the green one

[@josiahsimmons9866]

20:46 Excuse me... is that Test Drive from How To Train Your Dragon in the background!????

[@Niflheimrr_EL]

Would love a start to finish "how to start playing" guide

[@weirdedits7889]

I edge bugged to this

[@Eddyithink]

2:55 good moment to point out that Wirt's camera, in his livestreams, is obnoxiously huge, compared to other streamers. It'd be nice to reduce the size of the facecam, thanks (:

[@mouth.9930]

Holly shit kacky is back. The dope levels in my brain has skyrocketed

[@sanderschat]

2:33 a little bite at the DeepDip2 map he? :)

[@nacii.]

do you ever think about how many hours of your life have been spent just waiting for the 321 countdown at the start of every race

[@jrgenthinn5776]

no kacky christmas song this year :(

[@Womcataclysm]

Will you do a commentary on the full 1:06:42 run of DD2 by Bren?

[@kazii_the_avali]

kacky is basically the good side of fuck around find out.

[@Catacomb02]

Jack lacks a track with tacks in kackiest kack.

[@potatosordfighter666]

Deep Dip 2 might have been more tolerable as just the last 8 floors. Floor 8 was reached on day 3 as you said in the watch of Brens run. So the last 8 floors still took 90% of the overall time and after the first 3 days the first 8 floors were just tedium that were almost guaranteed to get (For anyone who had a reasonable chance to win the competition).

[@RubyPiec]

Wirt makes this seem so easy... I've tried Kacky for 5 hours and no fin yet

[@nifty235]

I wonder if Deep Dip 3 (if they make one) should have some sort of checkpoint system which is well balanced between rewarding and lenient for players who've become incredibly consistent at levels. A couple ideas could be every two levels could be a temporary checkpoint that you only unlock once you complete the two floor prior, but once you respawn at the checkpoint you lose it (and you respawn at the previous checkpoint two levels lower). This would require having to do 2-4 of the top floors repeatedly but if you're not consistent in those floors you can still be punished by doing more levels. Another option could be you respawn at half the distance that you fell, so if you drop 14 floors, you respawn at floor 7 to continue, and so on, but it's only an ability that unlocks after a certain floor, like floor 8 maybe.

[@radical_dog]

Something you could do without modding would be some drop-down tunnels with checkpoints in. So e.g. you have got up to floor 6, you can dive down to floor 4 and collect a floor 4 checkpoint.

[@FluffyFerretFarm]

I am definitely enjoying this content over the DD2 style.. glad it's been conquered.. it took it's toll on multiple streamers

[@NoHeros247]

Kinda crazy how he said how he felt about deep dip and peoplenare begging him to jump at it again. Being a youtuber is hard cuz that shit would have me annoyed as fuck.

[@paperman-y3k]

Who asked him to go at it again?

[@hyperventalated]

The maps this round are what the FGC would call kusoge

[@Vintang]

I think a collab with @HealthyGamerGG would do amazing, especially with your deep dip experience

[@pesoen]

around 21:56 there is an awesome version of Mayday by TheFatRat, anyone know the exact version? been searching for almost an 30 minutes now, no luck finding it.

[@unbelievable5967]

It's not a waste if you do it for a living. It's just a matter of how bad you want it and if you're willing to do what it takes. Challenges like DD2 are my fav. It's a test of willpower and consistency over just how good you are in the game. It's a good representation of life and it's own challenges. Everything takes time no matter what. It's just a matter of how long, and if you're willing to get to it.

[@lordofutub]

Bro the whole deepdip 2 problem is fixed is they make floor 11 a full floor without or with few gaps, making it a soft checkpoint. You're welcome deepdip builders

[@MartinFlaa]

2 ez

[@curlybloke101]

I been playing TM 2020 since it came out, never really touched TMNF, decided to try kacky and got a finish first day. Im in love with the game. + Dont like the TM20 direction with so many new cars and surfaces.

[@ARudePanda]

lol he predicted bren would win deep dip 2, insane ;)

[@1990erre]

I personally find Kacky way more fun to watch.

[@nickaww]

KACKY IS BACK FUCK YEAH

[@plumber1337]

If you lose progress in a Kacky map you only lose 60 seconds, losing progress in DeepDip 2 means losing 6hours of progress, and mostly repetitive.

[@MartinFlaa]

your number is wack

[@plumber1337]

@@MartinFlaa by a few hundred hours right?

[@austinish]

Seconding the guy who asked for more tutorial videos. I've tried playing trackmania ps4 several times, but it's hard for me to figure out what to do to improve on my own.

[@1zzKolby]

I somehow went 3 minutes before noticing it was tmnf

[@Trekiros]

Video idea: can you finish trackmania in action key 1?

[@davinci69]

They should make 2 separate maps for deep dip, an easy one u gotta finish first and then the hard ones in a second map for the best of the best.

[@TheAcoustically]

the deep dip did the the break

[@gam1ngfr3ak]

I love Kacky and I love you Glad to see you doing what you enjoy

[@Cloudyyyy88]

Can you select a specific map??

[@tomcherokee69]

on wirtual maybe you can do episode about longest times to get shortcut that saves small amounts of time

[@Totally_Not_A_Pigeon]

8:52 does anyone know what song that is in the background?

[@Sora-MMK]

Kingdom hearts music for ending, so good :D

[@Bali_tricks_Devon]

Cheese is... quite delectable wouldn't you say Kacky...

[@georgplatzer8213]

Kacky has more difficutl tricks but it is 269 hours shorter maps

[@thescenesnotdead]

"Kly Bing" ❤

[@kunalpatel5]

ahhh tmnf kacky, home to the most stupid and brain melting maps

[@drumsofberk]

At 0:26, I tried to click the full screen button... On his video, not mine XD

[@iamsushi1056]

15:30 is jus a great visual.

[@cactusman0403]

lets make deep dip with kacky floors... now thats evil

[@Motorboatasaurus]

Whoever says this is the stupidest trackmania competition has forgotten shitfest.

[@TheLemonyOne]

Woo, kacky's back!

[@brennanruiz1803]

So from what I understand of the whole Kacky vs Deep Dip debate is that Kacky is bad because it's a shitpost but Deep Dip is bad because it's tedious?

[@nixiontm]

There is no such debate and kacky is not bad.

[@zynstein]

Neither are bad. Kacky is 1-3 very hard tricks, you clear it and you move on. DD2 is a marathon. It's 10000 tricks of all sorts of different difficulties. Individually they're easier than kacky but the consequences of failure are far much brutal. potentially an hour gone rather than a few seconds and that's mentally taxing.

[@calmun1619]

what;s the name of the song around 2:20 ?

[@PDTopGun]

That one's driving me nuts too. I KNOW I've heard it before.

[@PDTopGun]

Got it! It's an arrangement of "Mixed Nuts," the first opening theme of the anime Spy x Family. This version is called "NUTZ - A Spy x Family Orchestration" by Rush Garcia.

[@calmun1619]

@@PDTopGun THANK YOU

[@SpaceBoiProot]

wait from when is kacky on tmnf

[@WR_WR_WR-uw7vt]

YEEES! KACKY IS BACK!!