The Suffering:Ties that Bind - Morality Beginnings & Endings

[@dubsquad156]

Okay so what I’m getting from everything I’ve watched about The Suffering is that Torque has a split personality who he has developed over years of Rage and Crime and the two have been at each other’s throats for years with them living their lives as two separate yet equal identities. Eventually in order to gain full control of Torques body he decides to attack his family in any manner that is presented because of the morality system and at the end depending on your actions and morality Torque either gains full control of his body, They still live as destructive entities within one body, or Blackmoore takes full control of Torques body and becomes a Kingpin. So in conclusion the entire story of The Suffering is about a man with a split personality disorder that kills his family through Blackmoore or himself and is sent to prison only to be tormented by his sins as Torque in the first game and then tormented by the sins of Blackmoore in the second either coming out on top as Torque, leaving himself in a constant battle with his inner demons, or Fully becoming the Devil known as Blackmoore.

[@willywheats6016]

I never understood if the monsters were real or just imaginary things where in reality he was shooting at nothing

[@dubsquad156]

Yeah neither do I but I'm just guessing

[@daividrod2497]

@@willywheats6016 well, other people also see them so..

[@combinecommando001]

@@willywheats6016 the monsters are very real, but Torque's monster form isn't. Only he sees himself as such, to everyone else, he's just going into a massive rage and kills things with his bare hands.

[@ChristianProtossDragoon]

@@combinecommando001 No. Torque's monster form is real. But it cannot be perceived by mere human eye

[@skullyskaric7779]

rest in peace..Michael Clarke Duncan :'( aka "blackmore/torque"

[@vozdux13]

Its nice that you wont forget about wonderful games like this one. Like

[@regulusmontgomery3807]

You're missing a few backstory flashbacks here, you get different backstories depending on the combination of starting morality and the one you get through the game. Good and neutral playthroughs give the same result and evil is different. There should be 6 different backstories.

[@Mihoyminoy65]

anyone else notice torque's girl is using lines from the song walk the line? she says "walked the line" "ties that bind" and "the happiness I know proves you were right." I always knew about the ties that bind part but i never noticed the other two

[@w4rudo]

5:54 I never seen that ending, how can I get it? I did the Evil morality (but with Evil beginning) but it never appears that scene of Torque hitting Cory and Malcom

[@tg.Sacred]

This is not an actual ending but close to the end of the game when you meet and talk to blackmore. All you have to do is being at evil morality. Just make sure you don't skip it because there's nothing special to do to unlock it.

[@w4rudo]

Sorry, but I only mean to the scene of Torque hitting Cory and Malcom, not the ending itself. But what I mean is, I never got that scene on Evil morality, I receive another one, about Torque talking to Blackmore about "Doing something that I should have done long ago" (killing his family). That's why I'm asking about the Cory and Malcom scene

[@tg.Sacred]

Hmm... What version do you have? Pc or..?

[@w4rudo]

I have the PC version (but in Spanish because y'know)

[@blitzkrieg2928]

well boys i was asking that same thing myself i depends on the intro you chose and then on the morality you pursue "Torque's backstory changes depending on your endgame morality and the way you started the game (good, neutral, evil) Good-Good:Blackmore told his thugs to scare Torque's family but they ended up killing them due to a misinterpretation. Good-Neutral:Blackmore told his thugs to scare Torque's family but they ended up killing them due to a misinterpretation. Good-Evil:Torque himself hired Blackmore's men to kill his family because he thought that they were holding him back but was caught at the scene of the crime. Neutral-Good:Blackmore hired one of his thugs to sell Cory "rock" under the promise that it would make him a big man. After seeing Torque accidentally kill Carmen Cory goes into a drug induced fury and kills Malcolm and himself. Neutral-Neutral:Blackmore hired one of his thugs to sell Cory "rock" under the promise that it would make him a big man. After seeing Torque accidentally kill Carmen Cory goes into a drug induced fury and kills Malcolm and himself. Neutral-Evil:After seeing Torque accidentally kill Carmen Cory goes insane and kills Malcolm and himself in revenge for Torque always beating him. Evil-Good:Blackmore forged divorce papers to convince Toque that Carmen was cheating on him and was getting a divorce, Torque went into a fury and killed them. Evil-Neutral:Blackmore forged divorce papers to convince Torque that Carmen was cheating on him and was getting a divorce, Torque went into a fury and killed them. Evil-Evil:Torque decides that his family is holding him back and decides to murder them to gain freedom. When asked by Blackmore why he wants to kill them he said "Do I need a reason, they're holding me back"." source : the-suffering-ties-that-bind.wikia.com/wiki/Torque

[@MrHds46]

I wonder what happened to malefactors and hell-holes if you get good ending.

[@gabeherndon2415]

They probably all vanished and were sent back to the evil hell dimension they came from and the hell holes are closed for good

[@jimibarker2744]

both suffering games and tenchu games are my most fav of all timed

[@juggernaut_drive5206]

Man i only played the second game And the beginning was neutral,he was Alone And the end i dont know if its neutral,good or evil because Blackmore was "died" and torque looked on the Town and the game end,i think this is all the ending on ONE ENDING

[@MoonlightGraham0]

Who feels the first game was longer?

[@DynamicStar-u5n]

5:53 This Scene Shows Why In The Bad Ending Of The First Game, Cory Says "I Was Always Afraid Of You."

[@goldimari]

I remember torque having different pants based on the morality, it was prison, jeans or cammys.

[@knightsotl796]

Really?

[@ChristianProtossDragoon]

Pants? lol

[@foxboi9407]

I was waiting for this video

[@kamikaze4172]

Oh the ties that bind. Every time I see the title, I think of the song of the samr name

[@cristhianflores674]

5:54 how do you get this cut scene?

[@sotheofdaein]

how come i got the bad beginning even though i got the good morality ending for the first game?

[@johnorulzu]

This is old and all but I'm thinking that ya might got an old save or possibly chose a differrent option?

[@camilaredfield1]

How can I get those different beginnings?

[@tg.Sacred]

Camila Redfield I think you already found out right ? ;)

[@MaxPain1996]

*how do you start with the good morality??*

[@tg.Sacred]

If you play for the first time you can't.

[@MaxPain1996]

@@tg.Sacred what! then how?please tell me!

[@tg.Sacred]

@@MaxPain1996 You need to beat the game. Then if you want to play again it gives you the option to select a morality. There is a video in my channel with tips for the suffering 2 and I have that included. You can check it out.

[@MaxPain1996]

@@tg.Sacred *THANK YOU!!*

[@tg.Sacred]

hunter steel you’re welcome !

[@bleh2590]

9:26 is that woman white or black?

[@namedidii]

Yes

[@thecraplordsell4575]

She’s black

[@MrReaperofDead]

Yes

[@TheRemembranceofGonzotheManipu]

Good

[@aitaylor5614]

Good ending always the best. Neutral ending I only unlock once. It's the hardest one , Besides Banging the ground, you don't have any special power. Evil ending i will is waste of time. U play two to three hours for nothing. I never play und unlock evil ending.

[@det1xe544]

Which game is better?

[@tg.Sacred]

Ditaxe first one has a better storyline !

[@laurentiusmcmxcv]

Both are complementary

[@unitorico4512]

First one is the better one by far The sequel is really bad in gamplay and plot, a garbage game

[@alextintor55thespectre67]

​@@unitorico4512 🧠n't?

[@esothetics]

The sequel is much more expansive and nuisanced, yet it doesn’t miss a beat when it comes to the overarching psychological issues and dilemmas when it comes to real life plights.

[@nostalgiafest7318]

Damn you chuy

[@foxboi9407]

Moon Knight Productions why did you call me that :(

[@nostalgiafest7318]

Chuy Marquez I wanted to be first :(

[@JabamiLain]

Damm, this game is good !

[@DoctorFail]

tg i could kiss you for this

[@tg.Sacred]

Kiss me. :D

[@DoctorFail]

👓 👃 💋

[@tg.Sacred]

Dr.Fail ha ha

[@foxboi9407]

First

[@bleh2590]

Such bad animation & voice acting at the end. And that kissing sound, omg. Almost was a parody

[@vitormaodevaca8469]

its a 2005 game man,chill

[@letsplay9227]

This kid is probably 8

[@ZacharyLamb-rc8qb]

………💍 🪽( U-U)🪽🙏 *good morality scenes* ( intro & ending ) 0:11 . 4:54 . 6:21