The Super Artillery Army

[@LegendofTotalWar]

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[@SereglothIV]

Welcome to Avelorn, gentlemen! I will not lie, the chances of your survival are small. Some may even turn against your friends as ancestral heroes.

[@darkrite9000]

Well, it would appear that's exactly what happened.

[@ethanwilliams1880]

Know this video is 4 months old, but absolutely killing me watch him shoot the artillery with rockets and say the stack can't handle single entities, when he has eagle claw sniper rifles. Don't remember if he likes replies pinned comments, so ima just vent here. Those things can snipe a foot lord hiding in a tight formation, from max range. I didn't make the army, but I imagine that was their purpose, they are pretty bad at killing everything else, for artillery, at least.

[@gautieryrondy4769]

Ancestor spirit : Never thought I'd betray my clan with elfs. Archmage : How about in a broken doomstack ? Ancestor spirit : Aye, I could do that.

[@JB-xl2jc]

"What about side by side with an ERROR: Object reference not set to an instance of an object?" "...aye, I could do that."

[@christhovhannisyan2074]

This is Gold, and deserves 3k likes

[@wauek]

10/10 doomstacks back in Wh2 so we've got 19 nobles 10/10 doomstacks now we've got 19 heroes from 19 different races

[@ryanmoore8707]

How does he have hero's from different races?

[@Sham_Seer]

@@ryanmoore8707 it's an exploit... get an immortal hero wounded while borrowing someone's army... then give the army back... when the hero recovers hes yours.. (technically you can get non immy heros if they get wounded via hero actions but that's more random chance than planned)

[@JB-xl2jc]

"The gang's all here"

[@bahamut256]

@@Sham_Seer They have to die via attrition as the only unit in the army.

[@runmuch5303]

I used to go through this every day to get to school

[@CZARCA5T]

wow just like my mom and dad!

[@parsa1372]

Dad?

[@darkrite9000]

That sounds easy I had to traverse the chaos wastes and fight 2 bloodthirsters to get to school. For lunch I had to get past a whole battle between Nurgle and Tzeentch to grab lunch, there was magic everywhere, and you can bet that physics wasn't invented yet.

[@garethr4138]

Average Estalian school 😢

[@AlexanderTheGoodEnough]

If you don't keep pace they'll melt your face

[@Omertahun]

Legend just earned a whole chapter in the book of grudges! What a slaughter!

[@SereglothIV]

And with their own ancestral heroes no less!

[@darkrite9000]

@@SereglothIV We get a 2 for 1 sale on grudges there.

[@FinalArchitect]

At this point, the Dwarfs might need a second book just for Legend.

[@virgolaniakean8001]

More like 'the Legend of Grudges'

[@BigPapaKaiser]

Legend has a separate tome and a special lactose intolerant scribe to record the grudges.

[@benpearse7565]

Me at the start of the video: man this is hilarious, but such a pain to set up me after the video: Totally worth it

[@rootbeard9123]

Through runes fueled by sheer magnitude of grudges and rage, the Runelord levitates into battle. This is now canon.

[@swolium]

this is how the danes must’ve felt when prussia invaded

[@friendlyneighborhoodcrusad4242]

Was not alive back then but can confirm.

[@vahlen5281]

Second season of 1864 looks lit.

[@MollymaukT]

HAUBITZEN!

[@heinrich8390]

„Invaded“

[@spinekingjrgensen5779]

@@heinrich8390 yea that is in fact exactly what happened. You can argue wether or not the invasion was justified for any altruistic purposes, but as a Dane I will say we got what was coming for us when we basically annexed Slesvig-Holsten. Not so much karma as common sense, don’t force proud peoples into an unwanted national identity.

[@bruceluiz]

This is the kind of tomfoolery that Balthatasar Ghelt wetdreams about...

[@thatonewolfguy]

7:23 Because there were no throne bearers, I straight up thought the dwarfs were being led by a slann

[@iain-duncan]

Could be even stronger with waywatcher and some skaven Heros. Really amazing concept

[@kakaomilch5905]

fcking op skaven...

[@daxl505]

It would be an unstoppable army with the skaven. It is way too hard to get tho

[@Helios_Therian]

@@daxl505 Not for the high elves, intrigue at the court has you covered for all of your diplomacy needs

[@R03333]

@@daxl505 What about Cathays artillery?

[@Vardisk]

How do you steal other factions heroes? I wasn't aware this was a thing.

[@AbdhullaWashiu]

I feel Eltharion with his endless volley would have made a better lord for army like this. Plus he is very powerful even on his own.

[@Indolthir]

I genuinely had a moment where I forgot which race he was playing with all of these stolen heroes and allied troops. XD

[@Andrew-kd1xz]

How has he stolen heros?

[@Indolthir]

@@Andrew-kd1xz There is a glitch currently which consist in the following: If you have an ally from which you borrow an army, and this army have heroes that have immortality/are ranked 20+, you can purposely have them get wounded. If you give back the loaned army before the heroes return from their wounded state, they will stay in your faction instead of going back to their original faction. I am not sure if you need to give back the loaned army before the heroes heal from their wounds or not.

[@Andrew-kd1xz]

@@Indolthir Ah cool, gotta try this before it's patched. Thanks!

[@lordmaur180]

CA should make outpost allow you to recruit your ally heros, that would add so much customization and potential to your games

[@zadovrus1624]

Getting rid off the 4 unit limit would do better

[@lordmaur180]

@@zadovrus1624 why not both?

[@zadovrus1624]

@@lordmaur180 Exactly!👏👏👏

[@drewpreston6478]

I know legend has said in the past (and I'm sure many people agree) an 'op' strategy like that should be perfectly fine in a long form single player experience, with probably only the same downside that comes with late game in general, which is struggling to find a fair fight.

[@OtterTreySSArmy]

​@@drewpreston6478it'd be nice for them to revamp the campaign AI to allow it to be more strategic. For example, forming sensible alliances and actually fighting massive multi-faction wars. Because if the AI got access to that, tailored doomstacks could be more easily countered by the AI

[@Ninjaa320]

What's so strange to me about doomstacks like this is by the time you've set them up, you've already won the game

[@Sercotani]

that's doomstacks in general. I like the idea of crapstacks better myself, early game units that can be spammed that can generally win specific battles with certain factions.

[@MusMasi]

Is there a way to maybe have a third wave of chaos or somethign to fight to make the game longer and more challenging so there is a point in putting in the effort to assemble these doomstacks?

[@Ninjaa320]

@@MusMasi I don't think CA intends for the game to be played this way, so probably not

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

@@Sercotani Agreed, these are generally a lot more useful to know how to make than doomstacks.

[@Vandelberger]

Imagine being an ancestor dwarf spirit, forced by wood elves to kill yer kin.

[@Reemus4]

forced? Thats Belegar Ironhammer, despite having 4 full stacks and lots of power, he still is not conquering Karak Eight Peaks. its turn 150 by that point his ancestors just want to kill him, for his massive ineptitude.

[@martinnolhaf3151]

@@Reemus4 ecactly. Sometimes you need and Elf to settle a grudge

[@welsh7858]

It's just another "End of the Times" scenario.

[@quint3ssent1a]

This army looks like something that was put out entirely out of mercs: half of the heroes are stolen, half of the artillery pieces are "borrowed", and the army is very elite, but not that great in numbers (like merc army would be.)

[@TeaPotTom]

This abomination of an army is... chefs kiss. Love it

[@rumplstiltztinkerstein]

What if you gave all of those buffs to Skaven ratling guns? The precision of the batteries was insane.

[@bibby659]

This honestly seems like a perfect Order tide doomstack hero's and lord from every order faction in the game.

[@Kyndral22]

that last barrage before the army losses was absolutely glorious, im so glad you caught that with a perfect view.

[@Ax_Dj0]

21:46 Does anybody notice chaos hero on warshrine that belongs to this player?

[@MasterObservato]

Probably related to the Military Access Broken with Kairos. There's some End Times Teclis scheming going on here, and I don't like it...

[@tlf7674]

Should've done it as Yvresse, Eltharion's ammo regen would be hilarious.

[@halwakka504]

3:01 Banner is absolutely fantastic in a properly equppped Thane doomstack.

[@WhiteBuffaloWakanGli]

One thing that’s great about WH3 is the changes to how equipment works. I actually pay attention, and put on equipment regularly. Plus there’s some great gear too.

[@kizumimikoto4617]

Collage of Pyrotechnics (The Rouge Army) Cooler Collage of Pyrotechnics (This Army)

[@AegonThePomsky]

Might be a noobish question but how do you get legendary heroes from other races when playing as HE or in general?

[@liamswyr1071]

I also want to know

[@dystropyko]

Borrow an army with a hero through alliance mechanics,. wound the hero(either by killing the army with an immortal hero or enemy agent actions) 5 turns later he appears as your hero.

[@nullpexception]

That was perfect terrain for an extended artillery engagement.

[@dinosaurkin5093]

That enemy lord borrowed some Slann mobility chair technology.

[@xBox360BENUTZER]

Would love to see one with Cathays Fire Storm Rockets, I think they are better then Hellstorm Batteries

[@Jade.Phoenix]

That is ridiculously awesome! 😎 While this army is very situational, having it as a support army would then cover its weaknesses.

[@nicholasthurmond4006]

This is definitely going in the book of grudges.

[@Vaprous]

2:30 - Imagine what deep dark secrets Avelorn had to dredge up to where siding with Elves against your own clan was less dishonorable for those Ancestor Dwarves.

[@666stonewall]

Now I want to see an army comprised ENTIRELY of stolen legendary/named heroes.

[@rasmusjrgensen1566]

How did he get those heroes from other factions? Last time i played, i believe you could only get units and not heroes through alliances. Is it a case of controlling an allied army, and then moving units from that one to your own army?

[@tlf7674]

If an allied Immortal hero dies while you're borrowing the army, when they recover they're permanently yours.

[@lutscheysoos4007]

No, you take controll of an allied army with an immortal hero in it, you then let that hero die in Battle and when he respawns he is permanently in your Faction.

[@Omertahun]

You need to check allied armies for immortal heroes, borrow the army, lead them to their death and when the immortal heroes wake up, you will have them for good. You most likely will need 80-100 allience point to get an army and you must lead them to their death before the contract expires. You on the other hand can steal all their equipment and banner just by borrowing them and strip them off.

[@rasmusjrgensen1566]

Appreciate the replies guys, thanks!

[@MusMasi]

@@Omertahun lmao hire some mercenaries then strip them of their gear and send them to their deaths!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 thats be diabolical!!!

[@kafilkafish2152]

Can’t even think about how to go about setting up this kind of army. 😂

[@Falsimer]

I did not realize you could recruit ally heroes as well as their units. How does that work?

[@sevenayashinedown1283]

High elves decided to try kidnapping and slavery like their cousins. They're still working on the kinks though.

[@ARK_Angler]

I'm not sure if this is the case in wh3, but in wh2, if you buffed too much arty range past like 600s or so then the artillery projectiles would disappear (at least with skaven arty that I remember).

[@thomaschinyere-ezeh6676]

Glad to see more out of the box well thought out doom stacks.

[@garwynrosser8907]

I suppose the advantage of using fire against a fire neutral army is that you could have fire resistance and reduce friendly fire from artillery?

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Potentially, though I think Fire damage in general reduces the healing cap a bit, which while generally pointless on the AI, is annoying for an army like this. Could be wrong on that though

[@CZARCA5T]

god... one day I hope I can be half as good at the game as this guy is.

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

"Tosses random bastillodon stacks around" Uh huh.

[@Loj84]

@@trazyntheinfinite9895 what?

[@potatowithbbq7373]

So this is Order Tide zipped inside an Army

[@benjyibreeg]

"Lets jump to the wall here" XDDD Gotta love auto subtitles xD

[@scottishwanker6202]

This is one giant crossover WHERE GELT

[@ROIBR]

hahha Love it when you "mimik" your Subscribers

[@almasyelesbayev736]

What do LegendOfTotalWar and the Incredible Hulk have in common? They both think that a Banner makes them weaker.

[@darkrite9000]

That's a terrible joke, but I smiled so take a like, but I'm still gonna call you a gobbo.

[@almasyelesbayev736]

@@darkrite9000 Fair enough. But beware of sneaky-stabbing!

[@trixus4768]

I was about to write that, you could've save some ammo by using Zhufbar 42 pounder ability on that first blob but it went flawlessly anyway😂

[@ventusvero4484]

I like the weird doomstacks. My favorite are the 'early game/easy to make' stacks, but this was different and welcome!

[@TheBoxGhost_tm]

If he wanted to keep the artillery motif of the army, replacing the eagle claws with either little groms or organ guns would help out with the single entities. Also leading this with Eltharion for ammo regen.

[@CarolusBuchwurm]

This army is running like a well-oiled machine. Nice.

[@Mithirael]

The magic meter went on holiday this battle lol

[@VyperByte]

Grand father…is that you with the elves?

[@thecursed01]

"gentlemen.... HOWITZERS!"

[@jago668]

Have a Balthasar army with 10 rocket batteries. Battles can be rough depending, but other times it's glorious. Have to have different armies for different purposes.

[@deanthelis5578]

Because the Warlock Engineers' ammo boost is multiplicative, as is Frugal's, you could just replace those three Eagle Claw Bolt Throwers with more of either. I'd use at least one Warlock Engineer, because this army has no answer to flying units that might path past the hero blob, and Howling Warpgale might help with that.

[@anoriolkoyt]

I think it would be a nice feature to add a diplomatic penality everytime you lose an ally's unit.

[@Thot-Slayer-420]

this is why we can’t have nice things

[@baudsp]

cool army. And I like how the army was followed by a goon squad of foreign heroes Dat deficit, though

[@IoannisKleanthous]

Hm is that not the idea of the bolt throwers though? 2 target single entities? With rank 9 bolt throwers and the extra accuracy the bolt lt throwers will rain terror?

[@King_Muffin2961]

7:22 The Ultimate Slann

[@Sokaku5]

7:23 - Dwarven engineering just keeps getting better and better! Dawi master race!

[@groothorty4566]

Nobody talkin about the Chaos Warshrine hes also got near the army?

[@Dan-vo7vc]

Shouldn't the Lord be by the artillery for the "loose" aura reload skill?

[@rogofos]

I like to think that they kidnapped the ancestor heroes and that's why they're fighting angrund

[@debaser5779]

Legend didn’t even equip the banner of eternal flame, I knew he was bad at the game 🥴

[@JayvH]

Can someone explain how to get the heroes of other factions? Is this a new HE mechanic in WH3?

[@xkblxcripple]

Burrow a military allies army and get the legendary hero wounded it will come back as your faction even if its a different race.

[@JayvH]

@@xkblxcripple Thanks alot. So this works for every faction, I guess?

[@iain-duncan]

Holy shit.... warrior priest buffs on a aspiring champion stack would be crazy

[@Ax_Dj0]

Dawi on the both sides, who's grudge is this?

[@denry100]

How are there so many different races and factions in the same one army??

[@alemorikec]

As SoT , Talon of Kurnous lord on a hawk to give sight, grab a warlock engi or 2 from Metable Hemlock. I think they have somepassive from tech or buildings thats ammunition all armies as well.

[@superyerfdog]

How do you steal units from other factions?

[@brandonteague7605]

Even against single entities I think prey of anathrama and focus fire from the bolt throwers and heroes would do well.

[@Trigfire]

Practicality: 0/10 Fun: 11/10

[@FandangoJon]

Does anyone know if Legend ever makes the save files available to us? I would LOVE to play this battle myself...and I'm far too incompetent to actually make this army.

[@p.p.wienersson]

Doesn’t missile resistance only protect against small arms fire? I was under the impression that it had no effect on artillery fire

[@xkblxcripple]

Missile resist works on all ranged dmg the difference with hellstorms is they explode and do secondary AP explosion dmg.

[@p.p.wienersson]

@@xkblxcripple Nope. missile res doesn't apply to artillery. read the wiki and the in-game description

[@OutcastPyros]

How did she get those heroes as Averlorn? Is there a way to recruit heroes from other factions?

[@damsoyinc9235]

Vampire counts would be difficult to fight against, but imagine how satisfying it would be to rocket a swarm of zombies tho :p

[@xkblxcripple]

with the nerf to VC leadership and hellstorms already doing fire dmg they wont be able to regen and will crumble from under fire leadership debuf.

[@Gnippots1]

How do you get heroes from other races? Especially the ghost dwarfs?

[@-V-_-V-]

Are these heroes from the import character mechanic?

[@eamonworden4369]

Do you have a video on how to “steal” the clan angrund heroes?

[@darkdragon213]

Can you save stolen heroes and if yes do they get saved for the original faction or the faction where you saved them(don't own TW Warhammer1/2/3).

[@xkblxcripple]

You "Burrow" a military allies army and get the legendary hero wounded it will come back as your faction even if its a different race.

[@profc9916]

How was it possible to get this mix of heroes/units?

[@KingofGeo]

I just imagine a right of Primeval with with the cold one summons...

[@elmerjfapp5730]

how did he get heros from other armies? can you mod in changes to confederations?

[@maboigrandmaster2993]

How do you get this diverse armys? save heroes or how?

[@xkblxcripple]

Burrow a military allies army and get the legendary hero wounded it will come back as your faction even if its a different race.

[@maboigrandmaster2993]

@@xkblxcripple so i borrow them and just attack some strong army until he is revived back and i have him?

[@Aa-zc8di]

Could this army use Eltharion as the lord for ammo regen instead?

[@BvzSA]

I was wondering. It would be brutal, my god.

[@connorparfrey9191]

Most definitely

[@yof106]

Lore of Nehekara is missing, could have boosted damage output with reload time

[@natonie3506]

Wouldn't the banner still be useful on the hellstorms because they already do fire damage so they would only gain the damage boost?

[@xkblxcripple]

That banner only does melee base dmg not missile damage, it is useless on ranged units.

[@danielarmstrong1575]

Perfectly countered by 1 flying unit, chefs kiss

[@me2tal]

Highlight of the video: Runesmith on his mobility scooter/hovercraft at 7:24

[@Brickman509]

So I get how they got allied units, but how are they getting allied heroes?

[@Shrade-0]

Seems like Eltharion would be a good lord choice here.

[@Sparkero-]

How do I get legendary heros from a different faction of another race ?

[@JackTenrec-qk4zp]

How do you get all those different heroes ?

[@ashleyblewitt1921]

The runelord became a slaan mage

[@lordcaedus8713]

That’s going in the goddamn book!

[@CloudWallace]

Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen

[@angelfan16]

How did he get other factions hero's as Avelorn?

[@irishtom30]

Stupid question I know, but what button do you hold down to move your guys in the current formation they're in? And is in the same in WH2?

[@dmcc5110]

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