The Swedish Navy in WW2

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@HiddenHistoryYT 7 ай бұрын
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@billt6116
@billt6116 7 ай бұрын
Is it just my imagination, Or does that thumbnail Swede ship carry EXCEPTIONALY LARGE Cannon?
@uranusismightybig5111
@uranusismightybig5111 7 ай бұрын
​@@billt6116its kind of like the "pocket battleship" the Germans used. Its not sized and armoured like a battleship, but they had the guns...well a little scaled down at least. He mentions it briefly in the video... If my memory serves me right, the heaviest ships were around 8-10,000 tons, and heavily armed with artillery...biggest guns were two twin turrets with 280mm pieces....i think that is the one in the thumbnail picture. This is only from my memory, so if someone knows more, please feel free to correct me.
@ConradAinger
@ConradAinger 7 ай бұрын
Fun fact: At the outbreak of World War One, in early August 1914, the Russians assumed that Sweden would fight alongside Germany. The Russian Baltic Fleet went looking for the Swedish Fleet off Gotland. But happily it was elsewhere.
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@misterpotato427
@misterpotato427 6 ай бұрын
*Fortunately
@Wulfzz
@Wulfzz 6 ай бұрын
No​@@misterpotato427
@jacklundgren4308
@jacklundgren4308 6 ай бұрын
My great grandfather served in the Swedish Navy in ww2. And was out on the sea most of he's life 🇸🇪
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@hrvojelasic5794
@hrvojelasic5794 Ай бұрын
you lost your country to migrants
@craiggleason8386
@craiggleason8386 7 ай бұрын
I think Sweden was concerned by the Soviet invasion of Finland
@garyhakala5168
@garyhakala5168 7 ай бұрын
And the provided Finland with munitions
@mickc7388
@mickc7388 7 ай бұрын
Neutrality = cowards
@Snobiker13
@Snobiker13 7 ай бұрын
@@mickc7388 Very few countries that don't have imperial ambitions enter wars if there's a way to avoid it.
@ulfosterberg9116
@ulfosterberg9116 7 ай бұрын
​@@mickc7388so you say the Americans are cowards?
@svenerikjohansson8130
@svenerikjohansson8130 7 ай бұрын
Of course, and by the German invasions of Denmark and Norway.
@stevewindisch7400
@stevewindisch7400 7 ай бұрын
My grandfather was born in Stockholm and joined the French Foreign Legion to fight the Germans in World War One, as many Swedes did. He told me that Sweden had become neutral after the Napoleonic Wars (around 1815), not WW1. Interestingly, this happened because the women of Sweden got together and threatened to stop having children unless their demand was met. A highly effective strategy!
@nissafors
@nissafors 7 ай бұрын
Thats not a True story I think. Greetings from sweden
@stevewindisch7400
@stevewindisch7400 7 ай бұрын
@@nissafors He was born in 1898, so apparently Swedes of that era believed it to be true. I know he did.
@markgarrett3647
@markgarrett3647 7 ай бұрын
Sweden is the Saudi Arabia of feminism. *Julian Assange*
@hansericsson7058
@hansericsson7058 7 ай бұрын
@@markgarrett3647 Feminism is good in this aspect cause women doesnt start wars as often as men
@markgarrett3647
@markgarrett3647 7 ай бұрын
@@hansericsson7058 That's because it kills societies at the most basic levels which is the individual.
@chrisberlin1552
@chrisberlin1552 7 ай бұрын
Thank you…at 53 still learning something everyday…;)
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@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@svenerikjohansson8130
@svenerikjohansson8130 7 ай бұрын
A lot of historical facts in only 16 minutes. Thank you for a well done video! from Sven in Sweden.
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@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@svenerikjohansson8130
@svenerikjohansson8130 6 ай бұрын
@@HiddenHistoryYT Same to you!
@warp9p659
@warp9p659 7 ай бұрын
Churchill never met a war he didn't like? That's quite a pronouncement. The UK was already at war with Germany before Churchill became Prime Minister and gained control of the government. He may not have been on the appeasement train with Chamberlain, but Churchill didn't start the war with Germany either.
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@HiddenHistoryYT 7 ай бұрын
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@jonatanraaum107
@jonatanraaum107 6 ай бұрын
@@HiddenHistoryYT bot answear
@Merecir
@Merecir 5 ай бұрын
Churchill planned to ATTACK neutral Sweden to take the iron mines, and hit it behind helping Finland against the Russian invasion. So yeah, Sweden should definitely trust that person after that....
@derjaeger3321
@derjaeger3321 7 ай бұрын
A lion can eat a porcupine but it chooses not to. Besides the Swedes knew not to do anything to force the Germans to attack. It had vital trade relations with the Germans. And as you pointed out she played both sides, that is what neutrals do.
@ben-c5t
@ben-c5t 7 ай бұрын
They also had a more neutral point of View to the root causes of that war, especially how it was escalated otu of an local border conflict about danzig and traffic routes. Birger Dahlerus was a swedish citizen who tried to bring poland to negotiation-table. But the british deniers denied.
@derjaeger3321
@derjaeger3321 7 ай бұрын
@@ben-c5t Hitler was going east no matter what. The corridor was just an convenient excuse.
@ben-c5t
@ben-c5t 7 ай бұрын
@@derjaeger3321 0/10
@drmodestoesq
@drmodestoesq 7 ай бұрын
@@NoumenonAndPhenomenon Turkey is not going to be blamed for being neutral because no one thinks Turkey is part of the cultural construct know as The West.
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@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@kingmichealthefirstofroman2278
@kingmichealthefirstofroman2278 7 ай бұрын
Denmark: what are we chopped liver?
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@Loke_Musik
@Loke_Musik 6 ай бұрын
Great video! But as a Swede, I have to confess that the Danish navy was much better than the Swedish one, and was number one i Scandinavia. At least, until early 19 century, when the British navy ”stole” the Danish one after the battle of Copenhagen in 1807.
@MMP-1119
@MMP-1119 6 ай бұрын
Chopped *pig liver
@foo219
@foo219 6 ай бұрын
Chopped liver is just one of many tasty foods Denmark is famous for. Jokes aside, I love the stories of the Danish resistance. There wasn't a lot they could do but that didn't stop them trying! Also, what's WITH the British obsession with preemptively sinking your navy every time there's a war about to start? What did you DO to them!?
@grisspro
@grisspro 6 ай бұрын
@@Loke_Musikso true
@1891726
@1891726 5 ай бұрын
It must be remembered that Sweden had been at war from 1611 to 1718, for 107 years we had been at war constantly. Then a large majority of the Swedes were pro-German because of Russia. From the great Nordic war where the Russians declared a joint war against Sweden with Denmark and Poland, to the civil war in Finland when the red side tried to take control of Finland. Over a thousand voluntary Swedes went to Finland to participate in the civil war on the white side. Some went directly on their own, while others joined during the course of the war. Many left after being in contact with the association Friends of Finland, and they were placed in what came to be known as the Swedish Brigade and it was basically an elite unit that Finland benefited from. The vast majority of Swedes were quite tired of the Russians. I myself had taken the side of the Germans, as almost everyone did because of Communism and the Bolsheviks. Even our royal house was pro-German
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@HiddenHistoryYT 5 ай бұрын
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@davidmurphy8190
@davidmurphy8190 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this historical analysis.
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@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@richardcleveland8549
@richardcleveland8549 7 ай бұрын
Interesting. The Swedes did well in walking the tightrope not to fall off, but I suspect it was German reticence rather than any threat posed by the Swedish navy and army that allowed the country to avoid the fate of the three neighboring nations.
@craiggleason8386
@craiggleason8386 7 ай бұрын
Germany had more to lose by attacking Sweden
@gregsmall5939
@gregsmall5939 7 ай бұрын
Germany lost the Blucher to a Norwegian fort firing mk1 Whitehead torpedoes and most of their destroyers to the RAF in that campaign. I think their risk to reward ratio in trying to occupy Sweden would have been unacceptable.
@uranusismightybig5111
@uranusismightybig5111 7 ай бұрын
​@@gregsmall5939exactly so. The loss of destroyers in particular during the Norway campaign had a profound effect on the Kriegsmarine for the rest of the war. They simply could not lose any more of them. To be honest, it was simple math to come to the conclusion that invading Sweden was not really in their interest. The iron ore was the prize, and that was secured when taking control of Norway with Narvik...
@Redgolf2
@Redgolf2 7 ай бұрын
So did Ireland 🇮🇪
@DavidDougan-vs5gm
@DavidDougan-vs5gm 7 ай бұрын
The royal navy was responsible for German destroyer losses in the Norwegian campaign not the raf. 8:27 8:40
@LethalWiz80
@LethalWiz80 6 ай бұрын
Great summary of the swedish navy’s modern history 👍
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@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@marcsetmais7598
@marcsetmais7598 6 ай бұрын
I think that the Swedish government did more or less the right thing in order to maintain neutrality and avoid an invasion (although there were very questionable decisions made). I do not think however that their navy, coastal defense and armed forces in general were strong enough in order to avoid a German invasion. The number of coastal defenses might sound impressive but the Swedish coast was long and the effectiveness of coastal defense is questionable. Their navy was too small and outdated to really stop anything. And the Germans just could have bombed big cities, like in The Netherlands. The size of the country would have been excellent for serious resistance. The real reason for not invading was that neutral Sweden was very much in the German interest, they still pretty much got from the Swedes what they wanted. Still. All of it saved Sweden from the horrors of war.
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@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@noahwail2444
@noahwail2444 6 ай бұрын
Sweden provided both the Britts and the Germs with ballbearings throughout the war. British Airways had an allmost dayly connection with Sweden, witch brougth back both ballbearings and downed pilots. And the Danish atomic scientist Niels Bohr was flown to Britain in the bombbay of a civil Moskito, painted in British Airways livery. He then went on to become a part of the Manhatan Project. It flew unarmed, and with civil pilots, depending on speed to avoid the Luftwaffe.
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@williamfrazier4797
@williamfrazier4797 7 ай бұрын
Swedish naval buildup during this period appears to be more as defence against Russia.
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@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@Tybold63
@Tybold63 6 ай бұрын
Lol well we Swedes are brought up for centuries to fear Russia so ofc it was like that.
@foo219
@foo219 6 ай бұрын
@@Tybold63 I mean, it's not without good cause. Just ask Ukraine.
@joakimwohlfeil
@joakimwohlfeil 3 ай бұрын
Most people thoose days forget that Nazi germany and russia was allies from 1939 to 1941.... it was no middle ground to maneuver in until 1941
@iankingsleys2818
@iankingsleys2818 7 ай бұрын
Two contrasting Swedish naval issues in WWII come to mind. The first was the Psilander affair of June 1940 when the Royal Navy "captured" for Swedish destroyers en route from Italy to Sweden. The British were concerned these ex Italian destroyers would be handed to or seized by the RN and detained in the Faroes and Scapa Flow. The matters were resolved by diplomacy and the destroyers were allowed to continue to Sweden the following month. In May 1941 in seeking to break out into the Atlantic, Bismarck and Prinz Eugen were shadowed for two hours by the modern Swedish Cruiser Gotland in the Kattegat. The information was in the Admiralty by teatime- the information being supplied to the British by Sympathetic senior Swedish Naval officers
@millipedic
@millipedic 7 ай бұрын
Interesting
@carlcramer9269
@carlcramer9269 7 ай бұрын
Britain interdicting Swedish military ship is a continuing story over the centuries - as it is with most other European navies. :o Just ask the Turks.
@ecrins70
@ecrins70 7 ай бұрын
That information was not passed by Swedish "Naval Officers"
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@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@magnusdahlgren3461
@magnusdahlgren3461 3 ай бұрын
@@ecrins70 Yes, you just might be right about that. From what I have understood, the information about the German ships originally came from the ship spotters employed by the Swedish secret intelligens agency "C-kontoret" who saw the germans sailing through the strait between southern Sweden and the danish island "Zeeland", called "Öresund." From there the info moved ut the ranks and eventually reach the brits. So the German ships wasn't "found" by the Swedish carrier ship all the way up in "Kattegatt" - that happened long after the news had grown old. Not surprising, since that strait is so narrow that it is impossible for anything to move through without being noticed by countless of eyes on the shorelines - on both sides. I believe that you can read about it in the fact-based novel "Sekreterarklubben" - about "C-byrån" and some of its members and operations (particularly about the females that were linked to, and engaged by, the agency - for espionage and things in that nature. They called themselves, informally, "The Secretary Club."
@carlcramer9269
@carlcramer9269 7 ай бұрын
Sweden disarming before war and then having to desperately arm during war is very typical of our history. The present armament happening at the moment is very unusual in peacetime - but we did a more typical disarmament project 1990 to 2010.
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@HiddenHistoryYT 7 ай бұрын
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@bobbyggare8364
@bobbyggare8364 7 ай бұрын
Its a ever repeting cycle
@foo219
@foo219 6 ай бұрын
Well, Putin happened. And Trump.
@Merecir
@Merecir 5 ай бұрын
We are not presently rearming. They present it as such, but it is barely a token effort.
@ulfosterberg9116
@ulfosterberg9116 7 ай бұрын
What is overlooked here is the fact that Germany and soviet union was allies in the beginning of the war. The joint navy of soviet union and Germany could have done anything in baltic sea. Sweden is mostly turned to the baltic sea and it was suddenly a wide open road into Sweden.
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@HiddenHistoryYT 7 ай бұрын
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@conveyor2
@conveyor2 7 ай бұрын
Wrong. A non aggression pact does not = alliance.
@ulfosterberg9116
@ulfosterberg9116 7 ай бұрын
@@conveyor2 do you really think that a non aggression pact between two aggressors who aggressivly devided and invaded the smaller countries between them and attacked Finland would ever been looked at sangvinely by the Swedish government and the general staff? And that is before the other aggressor attacked and invaded Denmark and Norway....
@iwanegerstrom4564
@iwanegerstrom4564 7 ай бұрын
If you visit Sweden, try and go to Karlskrona, the old capital and main hub of the Swedish Navy. Beautiful city 👌🏻🇸🇪
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@HiddenHistoryYT 7 ай бұрын
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@MrOddball63
@MrOddball63 7 ай бұрын
Really? Capital?? Yes it's the capital of Blekinge county but have never been the capital of anything else...
@MattDamonIsAnOkActorAmirite
@MattDamonIsAnOkActorAmirite 6 ай бұрын
​@@MrOddball63as he said, the capital of the navy. You cant read?
@MrOddball63
@MrOddball63 6 ай бұрын
@@MattDamonIsAnOkActorAmirite I can but that sentence can be interpreted more than one way, obviously... I have no problem with "main hub"... But I wouldn't expect a finnjävel to understand the finer nuances...
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@MattDamonIsAnOkActorAmirite 6 ай бұрын
@@MrOddball63 jodå, jag förstår svenska, inte minst med tanke på att jag är född och uppvuxen här. Men visst, jag förstår din förvirring, vad jag däremot inte förstår är varför (om jag nu hade varit finsk, det hade ju troligen påverkat min förståelse för underförstådda meningngsuppbyggnader i det svenska språket) min förståelse för engelska -som jag för övrigt talar lika väl som svenska- skulle påverkas av att jag har ett finskt namn? Jag vet inte hur det är med dig, men jag har kunnat engelska i över 30 år vid det här laget och kan utläsa alla "finer nuances" i både engelska och svenska.
@hansstromberg5330
@hansstromberg5330 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting, but of course a 15 min video cannot give the whole picture. The main goal of the government was to keep Sweden out of the war. It did, though by bending, from time to time to pressure from both warring parties. Given its geography, hemmed in by German-held territory, it had no alternative to bend to German pressure, the transit traffic to Norway (and to Finland before Operation Barbarossa) being two examples. Due to the fact that Germany dominated the North Sea, trade with USA and Britain was cut off (though a few vessels carrying petroleum products were let through. So Sweden had but one country to trade with. Germany wanted iron ore that could not be sold to the Allies, since Narvik was in German hands. Sweden needed coal, of which Germany had a lot to spare. Thus we had a deal: coal for ore. To save on oil, all the ships used were coal-fired steamships. Hitler could, perchance, had invaded Sweden,if he had wanted to, and maybe he would have liked to, but to what avail? Sweden sold its ore, and he was the sole customer:Why bother? Had he occupied Sweden, he would have to allocate troops, which he did not have and surely met a resistance movement sabotageing the iron ore mines. Despite the fact that German culture had been influencing Sweden since medieval times (remember the Hansa), nazism was a very marginal movement in Sweden from the outset, its influence vaning steadily throughout the war, the German attack on our Nordic neighbours Denmark and Norway of course causing an outrage. Hans Strömberg, jouralist, Stockholm, Sweden
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@davidlittle7182
@davidlittle7182 6 ай бұрын
‘No alternative’ doesn’t mean you have to be 100% compliant to Nazis
@joakimwohlfeil
@joakimwohlfeil 3 ай бұрын
@HiddenHistoryYT Thanks for an interesting video. However a small correction. Swedish naval officers historically mosyly served in the French or Brittish navy as part of their training. The ties where really tight as the Swedish naval expansion in the 1770-1790's largely was financed by France than saw a strong Swedish navy as couterbalace to russia, then after 1809 the Royal Navy became the closest ally by Bernadottes U-turn on Napoleon and then for the upcoming Crimea war RN worked closely with Swedish navy in the baltic. The close ties and sympathy to RN in the Swedish navy played a political role in several occasions in WWI and WWII
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@markw999
@markw999 7 ай бұрын
The Scandanavian countries had to thread a needle, politically speaking, during WWII. They were sandwiched between expansionist Russia and Germany, and oh yeah, don't forget the Allies would have loved to have control over their resources as well. Hard to blame them for playing all sides against each other. It was smart.
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@warrengaul2518
@warrengaul2518 7 ай бұрын
My thought is that trade is critical minerals remained open (smuggling of such minerals to Britain) so there was no need to invade.
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@MaskinJunior
@MaskinJunior 7 ай бұрын
I would say Denmarks navy also rivaled the Swedish navy at one point in history.
@kaisera4423
@kaisera4423 7 ай бұрын
The danish navy was the strongest in northen Europe until 1807. so it didt just riveal it
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@patrickroos739
@patrickroos739 7 ай бұрын
The swedish coastal defence was formidable during ww2, the navy was just the first line of defence but on land we had countless fortifications with artillery the equivalent of a huge number of destroyers, cruisers and battleships. Remember that the swedish military was only focused on defence of the country. Amongst other we built the 500km long "Skåne line" around the most southern parts of the coast.
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@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo 6 ай бұрын
What defenses were there on the Norwegian border? After all, Norway had been occupied by Germany in 1940.
@Lassisvulgaris
@Lassisvulgaris 7 ай бұрын
Sweden has not been at war since 1814, when Norway was forced into a union, which lasted until 1907. So Norway was "the blue water navy" in that peroide. The union was dissolved at gun point, but ended peacefully. The Norwegian navy was strong at that time, but remained, more or less, the same in 1940, so little resistance was offered..
@N0rdman
@N0rdman 7 ай бұрын
Sweden has hundreds of lakes? Try 100,000 lakes.
@Soundbrigade
@Soundbrigade 7 ай бұрын
Getting into the large lakes like Vänern, Mälaren or Hjälmaren would require to go through rivers and canals. Blowing up a lock here and there would render such a mission impossible.
@paulhalpern791
@paulhalpern791 7 ай бұрын
At5 6:30, the small craft identified as a "picket boat" is actually flying the flag of the United States Coast Guard--see also the initials "CG" on the hull number.
@jameshenry3530
@jameshenry3530 7 ай бұрын
Given Sweden's geographic position, the supply of petroleum fuels to operate any military operations would have been dependent on German sources. This would mean Sweden's independence would be highly limited.
@Snobiker13
@Snobiker13 7 ай бұрын
Actually, lots of tankers reached Sweden across the Atlantic even during WW 2. Google "lejdtrafiken"! There was also some domestic production of synthetic fuels.
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@cpt_frostbite
@cpt_frostbite 7 ай бұрын
you do know that Sweden basically is the reason why the germans could produce so many tanks as 1/3 of all germanys steel came from sweden and we were just friends with them which was enough for them not to invade us
@riddleof
@riddleof 7 ай бұрын
Neutrality bands that were painted at the stern and aft of the hull ( 7.35 ) !?
@jadijozsef5974
@jadijozsef5974 6 ай бұрын
11:12 They were also made in Hungary.
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@mitchellsmith4690
@mitchellsmith4690 7 ай бұрын
4:15...check the age os USS Texas, and her sister ships serving in WWII
@chrisberlin1552
@chrisberlin1552 7 ай бұрын
“Green”? I thought what you described is referred to as a “Brown” water navy. I’m likely confused but I’ve never heard a nation’s local coastline and river patrol force as green water navy…?!?
@mitchellsmith4690
@mitchellsmith4690 7 ай бұрын
It's not common, but it's used....brown water, green water and blue water. I've heard USN people refer to USCG as green water... .
@MrOddball63
@MrOddball63 7 ай бұрын
@@mitchellsmith4690 The riverine patrol boats in Vietnam were a brown water navy...
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@choloxsamurai3647
@choloxsamurai3647 5 ай бұрын
What ship was that at the end
@greggweber9967
@greggweber9967 7 ай бұрын
2:15 400 (officers) and 9,000 men respectively? Or is it 409,000 men total?
@Balrog2005
@Balrog2005 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think he means the first... but it's quite confusing.
@Merecir
@Merecir 5 ай бұрын
Perhaps with all conscript mobilized to the coastal defenses. Sweden never came to full mobilization during the war, the military were only "on guard" with partial mobilization. But still, the total amount of people serving in the entire Swedish military during WW2 were about 1 million (not all at the same time).
@alexandrejosedearaujoperei1008
@alexandrejosedearaujoperei1008 6 ай бұрын
Cara! Se tivesse legenda PT seria um canal extraordinário. Parabéns pelo trabalho.
@Jetchisel
@Jetchisel 7 ай бұрын
Where did that unnecessary and ignorant swipe at CHURCHILL come from ?
@billwendell6886
@billwendell6886 7 ай бұрын
Fun side fact not until WW1 did the threat of all out war between Britain and France go away.
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@vivocanada
@vivocanada 6 ай бұрын
The front of a ship is called the bow and the rear is the stern. You referred to the neutrality bands as being painted at the stern and the aft of the hull. Essentially, you said the same thing twice.
@danielericsson9008
@danielericsson9008 7 ай бұрын
Bra och upplysande VUDEO 👍🏆
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@danielericsson9008
@danielericsson9008 6 ай бұрын
Thanks - that was very interesting 🏅🎉
@vicolin6126
@vicolin6126 7 ай бұрын
Swede here: If you are going to speak of something that belongs to Sweden, you would say "Swedish" - in English. The translated term, in Swedish, would be "Svensk" (with multiple variations). So, when you said that the Swedish Navy was called "Sverige Marinen" - that is not correct. In Swedish, it would be "Svenska Marinen". I think you could have easily found that out by looking at Wikipedia.
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@jasonrothbaum5995
@jasonrothbaum5995 7 ай бұрын
when the Germans were doing well, Sweden drifted towards them. When the winds shifted, so did Sweden
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@andersbergquist
@andersbergquist 6 ай бұрын
Total surrounded by Germany, they had few choices. Most of the Government was pro allies. There was lots of discussions in the government how much they hade to give Germany. And GB would not come to help. They planned to occupy Sweden in 1940s.
@Lassisvulgaris
@Lassisvulgaris 7 ай бұрын
It is also important to remeber tha Britain and France had plans to invade Norway, and then get access to Kiruna and the Iron ore in Sweden. The excuse was to assist Finland during The Winter war. That war ended before the plan could be executed....
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@Merecir
@Merecir 5 ай бұрын
"Access" = proper invasion and occupation of northern Sweden. Which would have forced Sweden in on the Axis side, like Finland.
@Lassisvulgaris
@Lassisvulgaris 5 ай бұрын
@@Merecir Yep. Norway still wants Jemtland and Herjedal back from Sweden....
@strfltcmnd.9925
@strfltcmnd.9925 6 ай бұрын
Blue, green or brown water The U.S. Navy can do it all!
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@nomennescio4604
@nomennescio4604 6 ай бұрын
Sweden had a VERY interesting naval history in the 16th c. - probably more interesting and historically significant than the later centuries. It fought what was still a major maritime power in the late Hanseatic League, the city of Lübeck in particular, in the 17th c. It fought another leading regional naval power in the Baltic - Denmark - in the 17th c. and usually the Danes won, being the better sailors. Only Peter I of Russia creating the Russian navy during the Great Nordic War did Russia become a significant naval player.
@Merecir
@Merecir 5 ай бұрын
And the Swedish navy still beat the Russians in 1790.
@Indianloppan
@Indianloppan 6 ай бұрын
In the end of the war the Allied Force did not accept Sweden to be neutral, they asked them to invade Norway, my Uncle was prepared to do this, but the war ended
@HiddenHistoryGaming
@HiddenHistoryGaming 6 ай бұрын
Brave country
@davidlittle7182
@davidlittle7182 6 ай бұрын
LOL no
@DS-gt1ft
@DS-gt1ft 7 ай бұрын
So... we'll just not mention the Vasa. Other than that.... it's a great Navy.
@Soundbrigade
@Soundbrigade 7 ай бұрын
You forgot the regal ship Kronan (the Crown) that lies in pieces outside the Öland island.
@nomennescio4604
@nomennescio4604 6 ай бұрын
@@Soundbrigade Might as well add "HMS Mars" that blew up in battle against the Danes and the Lübeckers in 1564 - the 140-gun flagship possible the largest in the world at the time - the wreck of which was re-discovered a few years ago.
@jakkeledin4645
@jakkeledin4645 6 ай бұрын
Why you didn't speak Finland. You can't speak Sweden WW2 without speaking Finland. Of course everybody knows that Sweden Säpö ( secret polis) and Finland ( Vapo) change a lot information in war time. Sweden own army specialist knows, that if Finland collapse, then Sovjets will also conquest Sweden. So Sweden gives support secretly for Finland, like money and Great Bofors guns. Navy; Sovjets one of the main target was cut Finland merkant ships road. It cut sametime Finland main defence. Even peace time Sovjets attack, like how they drop civil airplane Kaleva ( what was full USA and France diplomats). Finland has to use Sweden sea area and Sweden navy protect them more and less. Anyway Sovjets didn't attack Finland ships who was near Sweden. After war Sweden built or give money for houses what kriminal Sovjets has bombed. Finland and Sweden navy continue working together after war. Secret of course.
@ThomasH7887
@ThomasH7887 7 ай бұрын
I think you should read up on the danish navy 😉
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
The Danish Navy in WW2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/emm4omyZdq6FopY
@ThomasH7887
@ThomasH7887 6 ай бұрын
You start talking about 1700-1900 😉 ​@@HiddenHistoryYT
@olov87
@olov87 6 ай бұрын
In Sweden we also say: Flottan = The fleet.👍🏼
@mplate1792
@mplate1792 7 ай бұрын
The swedes were very accommodating to German wishes. Thus, the Germans didn't have much reason invade Sweden.
@peterwright997
@peterwright997 7 ай бұрын
That's a very simple viewing of history ! They were just as accommodating to the alliance too! Look up the Stockholm express where mosquitoes flew agents back and forth!
@williamromine5715
@williamromine5715 7 ай бұрын
It is a very simple read of the situation. Germany needed iron ore, and Sweden was willing to sell it to Germany, and let the rest of Europe's countries fight to protect Sweden's commerce. If Hitler had been successful, Germany would have invaded Sweden too. Churchill was right in his assessment of Sweden. ​@@peterwright997
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@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@Morz44
@Morz44 6 ай бұрын
"Sweden has an impressive naval standard, especially by Scandinavian standards" - Laughs in flagship Vasa
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@Merecir
@Merecir 5 ай бұрын
Like saying that the US does not have an impressive air force today because some prototype F-22's crashed a few times.
@tomw377
@tomw377 7 ай бұрын
You want to know effective the Swedish Navy would have been in WW2? Just look at the respective invasions of Denmark and Norway. Both countries had navies with surface ships that were very similar in age, size, function, armament and performance. Other than being better prepared for an invasion, the Swedish Navy would have suffered much the same fate, albeit in a more drawn-out fashion. The advantage for the Swedes probably would have been the fact that their land forces were fully capable of putting up a very stiff fight on the border and in the mountains. I'm guessing that would have helped keep their naval bases largely free of German occupation.
@07HAGE
@07HAGE 7 ай бұрын
The Swedish destroyers were smaller than the German ones. But fast and maneuverable. German losses during the invasion of Denmark and Norway made the situation tricky för Die Kriegsmarine. Sure, the Swedish navy would have been whiped out if the Germans hade used all of their assets. But that were never going to happen. The big ships were needed elsewhere. Besides, Tirpitz and Bismarck were not worked up and ready for combat in 1940. And with the sisters fighting Renown and sinking Glorious in the North sea, Swedish losses might not have been as big as you might think.
@PSPaaskynen
@PSPaaskynen 7 ай бұрын
In 1940 the Swedish Army was incapable of putting up a credible defence of Swedish territory. They were understaffed, underequipped (almost no tanks and too few AT guns and also the air force was woefully weak) and they lacked fortified defence lines. All this would be addressed in the following years and after 1942, the army had grown into a somewhat potent force. In 1940 the Swedish navy was stronger and better prepared than the Danish and Norwegian naives put together and in their evaluations the Germans themselves identified it as the major obstacle to an invasion, not the Swedish army.
@niclasjohansson4333
@niclasjohansson4333 7 ай бұрын
The Swedish navy was ALOT stronger than that of Norway and Denmark together, it had a lot more ships with much better performance ! 6 of the Swedish destroyers and 6 of there submarines were very modern, (the navies of Denmark and Norway did not operate any modern warships at all) and the 3 Sverige class "armoured cruisers" was totaly superiour to any other in Scandinavia ! Another perhaps even bigger difference was that the Swedish navy was fully manned, trained and ready for combat after the Soviet attack on Finland late 39 !
@PSPaaskynen
@PSPaaskynen 7 ай бұрын
@@niclasjohansson4333 I think the readiness was indeed the bigger difference. The Norwegian and Danish navies were at the time building new ships and some of those had already been commissioned (The Norwegians had a brand new minelayer and some light destroyers, the Danes were building new minesweepers and submarines), but it was nothing that would deter a German invasion.
@niclasjohansson4333
@niclasjohansson4333 7 ай бұрын
@@PSPaaskynen The Swedish navy had several destroyers, the other Scandinavian navys did not have a single proper ship of the type, regarding submarines the Swedish navy was also superiour to its neigbouring countrys, and there was even 2 small cruisers, the Swedish navy was a lot stronger then than the other navys combined.
@zillsburyy1
@zillsburyy1 7 ай бұрын
did you know that for a brief time sweden allowed german troops to cross over their country into finland
@Soundbrigade
@Soundbrigade 7 ай бұрын
My father was guarding the Germans traveling to and fro Norway. They were nice guys, he said, often polite and sharing a fag or two.
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 7 ай бұрын
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@Merecir
@Merecir 5 ай бұрын
To help Finland...
@adampiorkowski8124
@adampiorkowski8124 7 ай бұрын
ORP Orzeł :)💪
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@10_z-ro_tone
@10_z-ro_tone 6 ай бұрын
where gaijin where?
@ara7057
@ara7057 7 ай бұрын
Swedish navy, where was it 1939-1945? Newer heard about it..
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@Merecir
@Merecir 5 ай бұрын
Defending Sweden. As it should.
@ara7057
@ara7057 5 ай бұрын
@@Merecir just asking... 😉
@tibrokillen111
@tibrokillen111 6 ай бұрын
You know that the Swedish navy are even older then the Royal navy, and i believe you should explain why we let germans go throw sweden. tell them about the midsummer crisis
@Roacha9
@Roacha9 6 ай бұрын
We should have 2 carriers 8 battleships 40 heavy cruisers. Oh its only me playing HoI4
@natte8470
@natte8470 7 ай бұрын
2:17 is that adolf hitler on the second right
@RichardMontgomeryYT
@RichardMontgomeryYT 6 ай бұрын
The vasa was truly one of the warships that ever sailed. Well i say it sailed...
@DanskerneFraDanmark
@DanskerneFraDanmark 7 ай бұрын
When will it be added to war thunder
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@grisspro
@grisspro 6 ай бұрын
What about denmark
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 5 ай бұрын
The Danish Navy in WW2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/emm4omyZdq6FopY
@emwjmannen2
@emwjmannen2 6 ай бұрын
Sweden had 1 050 000 soldiers during ww2, 850 000 men and 200 000 women
@Merecir
@Merecir 5 ай бұрын
In partial mobilization, on guard duty.
@rossdavies8250
@rossdavies8250 7 ай бұрын
Swedish Navy? So, I am guessing there is a reason that the ship in the thumbnail is flying the Dannebrog?
@liverbirdpool
@liverbirdpool 7 ай бұрын
Son You're so wrong - Denmark had the STRONGEST Navy in Scandinavia until 1807
@jonasandersson7367
@jonasandersson7367 6 ай бұрын
Nope^^
@I_dunno_man_but
@I_dunno_man_but 6 ай бұрын
As far as I can tell, the danish navy itself wasnt necessarily stronger than the swedish, it was the fact that the danish had an alliance with the dutch which meant sweden had to face both denmark and the netherlands who had a rather large navy at the time.
@kaspernielsen9149
@kaspernielsen9149 7 ай бұрын
ubåd = undervands båd = Under water boat :D
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@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@MinnaMe01
@MinnaMe01 6 ай бұрын
Godoy and informative video, but it feels like you use a lot of AI generated images when you don’t have to
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
Honestly don’t know what you’re talking about
@gangalo68
@gangalo68 6 ай бұрын
”Sweden has 100’s of lakes”. We have more than 100 000 lakes, so a bit off the mark. 😊
@adriankramer3493
@adriankramer3493 6 ай бұрын
swedens coatsel defence line is nothing against that of the atlantic wall
@conveyor2
@conveyor2 20 күн бұрын
The use of present day maps and flags is...unconvicing.
@felldin
@felldin 6 ай бұрын
Swedens neutrally came from the traumatising event of losing half its landmass to russia.
@EchoesofWarYT
@EchoesofWarYT 6 ай бұрын
Beasts
@m.h_productions
@m.h_productions 6 ай бұрын
War Thunder PLEASE! I'm begging on my knees.
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@StiXWasHere
@StiXWasHere 6 ай бұрын
Karlskrona mentioned. RAAAAAAHHHH
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@Macovic
@Macovic 7 ай бұрын
Try more than houndred thousand lakes
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@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@pavelgaming5470
@pavelgaming5470 6 ай бұрын
using AI art instead of taking 20 seconds to google a picture L
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
Honestly don’t know what you’re talking about
@gustav331
@gustav331 7 ай бұрын
"Sweden has an impressive naval tradition, particularly by Scandinavian standards. From the 1700s to the early 1800s, the powerful Swedish Navy... had only one other naval power in the Baltic that was its rival: the Russian Navy." This is patently false. The Swedish Navy spent most of the 1600s and early 1700s getting defeated by the Danish Navy, and the primary rival of the Swedish Navy up until 1807 was always the Danish Navy. The Danish Navy was also consistently stronger than the Swedish Navy from c. 1715 and onwards. The Swedish Navy only really rivalled the Danish Navy during a brief period in the 1780s, where French subsidies had allowed Gustav III to expand his sea-going force. The Swedish Navy generally had problems ranging from poor crews and officers (Scanian War), incompetent admirals chosen due to royal titles rather than merit (Russo-Swedish War of 1788-1790), or just poor up-keep due to a lack of resources and money (last years of the Great Northern War).
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@soderstadion77
@soderstadion77 7 ай бұрын
2:13 this cant be from a Swedish ship, some asian country?
@mogges
@mogges 7 ай бұрын
AI-bild. Titta på ”händerna”.
@soderstadion77
@soderstadion77 7 ай бұрын
Geez, ok låter rimligt trots allt
@noahsarkvideos5981
@noahsarkvideos5981 6 ай бұрын
This is inaccurate as Denmark had a larger fleet and was the leading naval power in the baltics before the napelonic wars
@Merecir
@Merecir 5 ай бұрын
Because Sweden was busy fighting land wars against Russia and Poland.
@gen.tucker6024
@gen.tucker6024 6 ай бұрын
2:30 Just me or does this guy look like John Cena
@johnord684
@johnord684 7 ай бұрын
Thar is not star trek that is jj abrams version of star trek
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@ShermanistDruid
@ShermanistDruid 6 ай бұрын
What happened to the gold the nat'socs payed sweden? Why did they refuse to return it to lesser nations when they found out about its origin?
@StroinkdudeEmil
@StroinkdudeEmil 7 ай бұрын
What is a U-bat, it's called U-båt
@Lassisvulgaris
@Lassisvulgaris 7 ай бұрын
English speaking people don't know the letters "Æ","Ø" and "Å".....
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@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@arndtczepluch6919
@arndtczepluch6919 7 ай бұрын
The grates enemy of the swedes navy was danmark not russia and sweden was not only by frindship close to germany, for a very long time great parts of north germany have bean a part of sweden.
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@kaspernielsen9149
@kaspernielsen9149 7 ай бұрын
pfff. The battles of Køge Bay, Møn and Øland disagrees with you. ;) Denmark usually beat the Swedish on water, but lost of land (mostly due to manpower difference)
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@VoicesofWW2YT
@VoicesofWW2YT 7 ай бұрын
Ibrah!
@Snobiker13
@Snobiker13 7 ай бұрын
Excellent relations with Germany? Not in the 1600s ...
@mkmt6396
@mkmt6396 7 ай бұрын
HAHAHA Sweden's navy in ww2. fascinating stuff. Without listening to this let me summarize, Sweden's navy did nothing all ww2 just like ww1, and ever since this is after having their butts handed to them hundreds of years ago so now avoided any sort of nasty fighting relying on others to suffer whilst hiding and making lots of money off pure evil. Sweden's navy was so super good, and suffered no losses and lost zero men all war because they sat in port polishing their medals given for doing nothing. Such a heroic military tradition! Well done Sweden you are amazing.
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@HiddenHistoryYT 7 ай бұрын
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@staffangoldschmidt2721
@staffangoldschmidt2721 6 ай бұрын
🇸🇪✌️💙🧡
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@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@nhientran4142
@nhientran4142 6 ай бұрын
warthunder pls add sweedish navy brah
@HiddenHistoryYT
@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@scotfield3950
@scotfield3950 7 ай бұрын
Without swedens iron ore and other minerals ww2 couldn’t have happened
@PSPaaskynen
@PSPaaskynen 7 ай бұрын
The Germans put a high value on Swedish iron ore, because of the quality. However, it was not like they were short of ore. It tends to be forgotten that Nazi-Germany had a treaty with the Soviet Union, a country overflowing in iron ore. The Soviets could deliver any amount the Germans needed. The problem was just that Moscow required payment in gold and in technology, while the Swedes mainly needed coal in exchange for their ore. This is why the Germans preferred Swedish deliveries. Still, it is a mistake to think that the Swedish ore was the deciding factor that made WWII possible.
@nattygsbord
@nattygsbord 7 ай бұрын
When are you going to talk about your military alliance with nazi Germany that started world war 2 Ivan?
@nomennescio4604
@nomennescio4604 6 ай бұрын
Except the Swedish iron ore wasn't useful for actually making weapons. Besides, pre 1941 imports form the USSR was massively more important for Nazi Germany, and from 1940 onwards most German iron ore needs were supplied from occupied France. However, Churchill in particular had a pet-idea about Swedish iron ore being Super Important (and a reason to invade Sweden and take it), and wrote it into his WWII history (the one JM Keynes referred to as "Winston's autobiography disguised as world history").
@PSPaaskynen
@PSPaaskynen 6 ай бұрын
@@nomennescio4604 Your first point is incorrect. Swedish iron ore held very high quality (60% iron compared to 30% for German iron ore, so it was far more economical to exploit and process) and it was especially suitable for creating high-grade armour and gun barrels because of low phosphorus content. (Sweden also produced iron ore with higher phosphorus content, but that was not what Germany imported. The French minett iron ore did have high phosphorus content and was therefore not very suitable for arms production.)
@nomennescio4604
@nomennescio4604 6 ай бұрын
@@PSPaaskynen no it is not. The German use for Swedish iron ore was not for weapons.
@neilcombrink5231
@neilcombrink5231 7 ай бұрын
Wrong flag dude
@DirkVD63
@DirkVD63 7 ай бұрын
Where?
@PSPaaskynen
@PSPaaskynen 7 ай бұрын
Also shows Japanese sailors when talking about the Swedish Navy; very poor editing, as always with these AI-produced videos.
@JohanDuck
@JohanDuck 7 ай бұрын
Minesweeper
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@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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@SgtMclupus
@SgtMclupus 6 ай бұрын
It's not "Sverige marinen", it's "Svenska Marinen"! If you're going for saying what the name is in Swedish, then get the fucking words right, will you???! I can accept that you butcher the pronounciation; that's fine, but to say "Sverige" (the name of the country) instead of "Svenska" (What country the Navy is part of) is just too much! It's like saying "America Navy" indtead of "American Navy", but even slightly more than that
@UnicornGamingRX03
@UnicornGamingRX03 7 ай бұрын
Sweden in Azur Lane when?
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@HiddenHistoryYT 6 ай бұрын
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