The Systems Alliance, mankinds sword and shield.

[@scienceinsanity6927]

Gonna jump right out and explain a few things. FIRST, yes the video is as intended. I'm having problems with my editing software because i updated from DavinchiResolve 17 to 19. Some of my plugins broke/work differently and one of them was the waveform generator i used. It will be back next video when i fix it but feel free to let me know if you prefer it this way. SECOND, why so long between uploads? I was having a shit week and could, NOT, muster the energy to upload. Sorry, am better now. THIRD, This video may seem like context or information is missing at certain parts. That's because it is, this was a rerecording because the original got corrupted the first time me and Steve tried it and I deleted the original script to declutter things. So crappy remake essentially.

[@26th_Primarch]

@scienceinsanity6927 I got an (unusual for this channel) video suggestion: A "what if" scenario where the Galactica, Pegasus, and the surviving colonial fleet reached Earth, but instead of the post-nuke shithole from the series, that fleet jumps out over the UNSC's Earth from Halo around 10-15(ish) years before the Covenant shows up to spread the words of the Prophets. Handle it like one of your opinion piece videos.

[@dominiqueruggeri3408]

Shit happens. Recover, take some time, and regroup. Taking time for yourselves is also important. Only a small post telling I'm unwell, well it often does the work.

[@Ju66alo4Life]

Glad you're doing better 🤘

[@Animalover205]

I get it man, take your time. Upload when you can, we'll still be here when you do

[@scottjefcoats6645]

23:50 "It's kind of like the military has a state, not the state having a military..." So basically it's Prussia in space.

[@Tourniquet]

Turians: Heres the space Washington naval treaty Humans: yeah we've seen that shit before, and watch us get around it again

[@LurchTheBastard]

I mean, this does kinda paint the Humans as Imperial Japan, seeing as they were the ones that pulled the shenanigans that got carriers restricted in the Second Washington Treaty.

[@The_Viscount]

Council: Dreadnought are regulated based on species. Humans: Just Dreadnoughts? Council: Yes...? Yamamoto's descendant: Supercarriers it is then.

[@callen1904]

Kalibunga it is😂😂😂😂

[@Grizabeebles]

I can see about half the logic -- Mass Effect railguns can bombard planets with near-light or superluminal munitions, which makes dreadnoughts terrifying weapons of mass destruction. However, this also applies to basically every ship anyway and "big rock with engines" is an eternally viable tactic in sci-fi anyway. Im comparison, Carriers are essentially bringing a fully-staffed air force base to the gunfight.

[@306316]

@@Grizabeebles That one dude in the fighter munition R&D be like: "what if we just do tungsten rods on an orbital dive bomber..."

[@Ragnar_Steiner]

Turians: "no more Dreadnoughts!" Allianz: "ok. Battlecarrier go Brrrrrrr"

[@alessiogiovannetti513]

Alliance: “YOU FOOL! YOU TRADED A QUICK DEATH FOR DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS!!”

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

Turians : No War Elephants Alliance : Sighs ! Add Different types of deadly ant colonies on the menu

[@IrishJuggalo71]

Don't you dare insult my Mako. At least it's not made of paper and dreams like the Hammerhead

[@totallyahuman.2955]

At least we can fly, you oversized tin can.

[@aka-47k]

yeah imho ME1 was best gameplay while ME2 had the best story. gameplay in me1 was really great i felt the world, all the diff weapons/armors to have to explore with the mako really made the world believeble.

[@joshuatitsworth9190]

Always loved the Mako. Best ME vehicle.

[@soccerandtrack10]

@irishJuggalo who do you want me to insult?

[@lechking941]

​@@aka-47kso 3 don't sit antplace for ya.

[@barrybend7189]

Sci you missed one detail. While the newer carriers are bigger than Dreadnoughts alot of the first Generation carriers the Alliance fielded were just Dreadnoughts with the gun removed and a large hanger bay installed. It's Washington treaty 2 electric boogaloo.

[@Belligerent_Herald]

And had results that are about as predictable. No, we swear that’s not a dreadnought, it’s just a cruiser that really let itself go.

[@The_Viscount]

1000 credits says they left space for main guns to be installed later.

[@madkabal]

@@The_Viscount doubtful.

[@alicorn3924]

@@madkabal it's the first gen, I don't doubt it one bit.

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

​@@The_Viscountspace ? Hahahaha , Star fighter hangers are just empty space full of fighters , lifts , cranes , ammo and fuel tanks 😂🎉 , unload them and add a purpose built weapons module or hell attach orbital guns to the carrier , it's over

[@trevynlane8094]

The really interesting thing about the First Contact War is that the Systems Alliance forces were trading on a 1:1 rate with the Taurian forces. This was a big thing to the Council Races, as even the Krogan had a negative exchange rate with the Taurian military. It was a major reason why the Council treated the humans with kids gloves, as the Alliance would be costly to conquer. They could do it, but they would deplete their military heavily to do it.

[@cpob2013]

If anything we punched above our weight thanks to our carriers sending fighter swarms to overwhelm turian defenses and hit the soft spots with torpedoes. Their dreadnoughts were sand castles

[@306316]

Nah, Garius just hadn't been born yet, if he did the calibrations for the Turian guns they would have traded better.

[@addisonwelsh]

We weren't trading one for one. Every fight we won was only won because we had an overwhelming numerical advantage. We sent our military to beat up their cops, and before the Turians could send their proper military in, the Asari stopped them.

[@sakisaotome6753]

@@addisonwelsh you are also forgetting somethign very important. Humanity vs Turians circa the first contact war was the equivalent of the modern US military fighting off WWII era US military. during the Citadel dlc in the archives you can hear one of the turians complaining about how primatives are weapons were. I also do not recall every hearing that we had an overwhelming numerical advantage. the conversation you can have with admiral ahern during me1 pinnacle station dlc and the mission you get to play if you beat everything else suggests the opposite. ahern and his gropu and the face constant reinforcement. most of our numbers on shanxi were civilians not military personal which were the the targets of their orbital bombardments. so really the only advantage we had is the turians arrogance to assume that what they found was the bulk of a military, and the Turians dextro protein diet.

[@sakisaotome6753]

@@cpob2013 carriers caused a greater degree of havoc in the field that no doubt would have be beneficial to us, but carriers didn't negate the threat of a dreadnought or else everyone would have started making them by the boatload. and once we were made a council race we immediately invested our resources into building more dreadnoughts rather than just making more carriers.

[@totallyahuman.2955]

This is Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite channel on the Citadel.

[@addisonwelsh]

The Illusive Man does have a backstory. There's a comic book called Mass Effect: Evolution that goes into his backstory and fleshes out the First Contact War. The Turians did not force the Alliance to sign the Treaty of Farixen. The treaty existed prior to humanity being discovered, and we signed it to ingratiate ourselves to the Council. A single carrier cannot lock down a an entire solar system. GARDIAN lasers guarantee that any fighter attack is going to be bloody.

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

Well they can either focus on the fighters or the torpedoes , missiles , etc , at equal technology level , enough amount swarm of Starfighters can overwhelm any single ship , also there would be some weakpoint in defences too , or the direction they are attacking from or multiple directions too

[@addisonwelsh]

@@sumukhvmrsat6347 Codex says standard doctrine is to focus on the fighters, then the torpedos, since they're slower. Also, swarming one ship is great, but its not going to take down an enemy fleet flying in close formation using VI to synchronize their fire patterns for maximum effectiveness. Carriers in space are not the game changer they were in the sea, at least not in Mass Effect.

[@sakisaotome6753]

@@addisonwelsh my guess is that fighters are taking on the frigates rather the crusiers or dreadnoughts.

[@addisonwelsh]

@@sakisaotome6753 Considering how fast and maneuverable frigates are show to be, I doubt it.

[@sakisaotome6753]

@@addisonwelsh are you sure you're seeing fast and manerverable frigates or A fast and manuverable frigate? because normandy' sr1's tantallus drive is as powerful or if not more powerful than the typical drive core found in a cruiser. the normandy sr2's new engine is even more powerful than the sr1s. so the normandy can do circles around even the most agile/manuverable frigate

[@ThatEnglishGent]

Listening to you describe the Alliance Navy's fleet doctrine gives me ideas for how I want to play my next game of Stellaris.

[@dspserpico]

@@ThatEnglishGent play as humans, but midway between the United Nations of Earth and the Commonwealth of Man.

[@cpob2013]

Theres 2 great mass effect mods Beyond the relays which has a special map generation into disconnected clusters and need mass relays to reach each other Milky way unleashed has great portraits and traits and origins including a separate cerberus faction and a unified quarian/geth option.

[@Jesus_Offical]

Mass effect stellaris mod would be baller

[@Thedain14]

You were totally right about the first contact war. It’s why the turians had to pay reparations. Any pro Turian arguments made in game is just a disguise for hurt pride, distrust of humanity or denial of an easily preventable mistake.

[@alessiogiovannetti513]

Turians are still coping over the fact that THEM, the best martial race in the entire Milky Way got their ass beaten by the new kid on the block after attacking them unjustly and were forced to apologize.

[@TheCorrodedMan]

@@alessiogiovannetti513True but we weren’t really in the all clear ourselves either. There’s a _very_ good fucking reason why no one activates dormant mass relay’s anymore, and we were bebopping across entire clusters just flipping every damn switch we could. What if we had fucked around and let the Yahg out into the galaxy? What if we had made contact with a Raloi and contracted that disease they all carry but are immune to? So much could have gone wrong, and in that moment, the Turians just panicked. They knew what they were doing wasn’t exactly diplomatic, but they still remembered the Rachni Wars and the Krogan Rebellions, and they did not want a repeat of either.

[@luscinius2933]

Pirates are still classified as "hostis humani generis" - enemies of mankind, and I doub't ithis will change in the future, so executing pirates is not a war crime, it's an obligation. Also, correction, other races didn't have a *dedicated* carrier, humans were first in that, they did have a wing or two stashed in their ships, but nothing of the sorts that can just vomit a stream of snubs at the enemy.

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

So basically they had Starfighters in name only , like , yes we do have Starfighters, but the alliance gave their enemies nightmares of starfighter swarms in sleep

[@addisonwelsh]

@@sumukhvmrsat6347 No, we developed actually good torpedoes. If we hadn't, our fighters wouldn't have been any threat to Citadel warships, regardless of number.

[@davidlivingston9169]

Humanity was the one to introduce CARRIERS as a ship class to the Galactic Community, and was their way to get around the Dreadnought restrictions of the Treaty of Faraxin!!!!!!!!!

[@cpob2013]

We already had them. The other races had fighters but only as scouts or interceptors and in small numbers. We are unique in having our experience in ww2 and developing naval aviation warfare while the other species still relied on bug gun navies. In the first contact war our fighter squadrons overwhelmed the turian fleet and hit the key systems like shields engines and cannons.

[@addisonwelsh]

@@cpob2013 Actually, the thing that made human fighters different was the development of reliable torpedos. The other races didn't have those. Our experience during WWII had nothing to do with it, and I find it rather pretentious that you assume said experience is unique.

[@sakisaotome6753]

@@cpob2013 this is probably obvious, but most of the other race likely kept most of their fighters either on bases, carriers or dreadnoughts.

[@windwind3170]

Reminder that due to First Contact War and Turian stupidity, the Alliance's First Contact protocol has become: assume hostility. For proof look at the cutscene right after recruiting Javik.

[@TheCorrodedMan]

I mean it is a sensible approach. Sure these aliens might be humanoid but who’s to say they don’t view biting someone’s nose off as a greeting? Or maybe they’re like the Klingons and just like punching people in the throat for no other reason beyond “gurgling sound funny” If Javik had been pissed off, they probably wouldn’t have outright killed him, but those guns weren’t loaded with blanks either. Tranq shots maybe, or Stun-shots.

[@feldamar2]

An easy way to explain how we built so many ships? WW2 The liberty ship program. We built literally 1000's of 400 foot cargo ships. Hull, equipment, engines, bunks EVERYTHING. At an average speed of 2.5 weeks PER SHIP BER BERTH(We had 18 shipyards doing parallel building. Not sure how many berths.) The biggest limitation was not enough steel being delivered to the shipyard. The limitation wasn't even manpower. This was in 1944. This was just one nation, albeit a big one. Give 200 years advancement and an entire world with a focus like that and you could probably build just like that again, but with 40 shipyards. Battleship/dreadnaughts would take a bit longer. But if we had to, I can totally imagine a shipyard throwing one together in less than a year.

[@Zerosinker]

Well considering that space mineral harvesting would have ramped up, combined with the xenophobic sentiment it wouldn't be surprising if the alliance mobilized a shit ton of people to build them alongside the resources from outside of Earth Combine that with newly founded colonies, that need alloys for construction of infrastructure the production of said alloys cranking up would also be a natural thing

[@Grizabeebles]

23:58 -- It was at that moment that I realized that Mass Effect is really "East India Company Simulator"

[@James-ep2bx]

Ruthless isn't the only background associated with the Human Batarain conflict the Warhero background has you saving a colony, while colonists has you being a survivor of one of the raids

[@cp1cupcake]

Cerberus is in ME1 as {spoilers below for Steve} basically a human supremicist spy organization gone bad. There are a number of missions where you basically have to go clean up after their unethical stuff, including the assassination of a general and creating EDI.

[@lukasz88888888]

Another spoiler for Steve about Cerberus Around First Contact War Cerberus was just part of the System Alliance Intelligence for some black ops. More about this was in the comic book.

[@weldonwin]

To quote Joker on the matter "Hey Commander, one of our experiments got out and killed a bunch of our guys, can you go take care of that for us?"

[@evanperes7382]

Like the fat electrician cameo

[@zeehero7280]

First Contact War was the Turians going "We haven't done war crimes in a while, lets get going boys!"

[@BaxterAndLunala]

Well, the Alliance was only humanity's shield prior to the Reaper invasion of 2186. As Shepard puts it, Cerberus was meant to be humanity's sword, not a dagger in its back.

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

An enjoyable review of the Human Systems Alliance. They are indeed one of the neatest forms of an Earth/Human sci-fi faction created. It'd have been interesting to hear more of this channel's thoughts on the ground doctrine and the command structure.

[@aidanjohnston7505]

9:50 implies that SI never lets the council live... fair

[@AKlover]

There is neither gain or penalty for doing so really. Focusing on Sovereign is the correct choice.

[@Seresh-j8m]

I kept them alive because I wanted to keep their fancy dreadnought alive, just to learn that in ME3 it does nothing other than appear for a few seconds in the final battle cutscene.

[@Drave_Jr.]

@@Seresh-j8m Destiny Ascension is actually weaker than the asset total lost from the unbroken fleets from the Alliance.

[@Seresh-j8m]

@@Drave_Jr. I didn't know that. I knew it appeared in the final game and wanted to actually see it shoot at something. They made it out to be the most powerful ship in the franchise after all. But it was not to be I guess.

[@Hartzilla2007]

@@AKloverI mean you do get them admitting they were wrong to not trust Shepard in the third game.

[@trevortammen2341]

Im a filthy imperium of man enjoyer, but the systems alliance and their starship design is basically my peak vision of a space travelling human government

[@tv_tim]

Why the Mako hate? I love that tank, and had a blast driving it. My best memory of it is when I got it stuck on it's roof and 'drove' it around by using jump jets until the game decided I had enough fun and teleported me right side up.

[@dariustiapula]

Somehow we have a reputation of being more violent than Krogans.

[@weldonwin]

We're just better at it. Krogan military doctrine boils down to Leroy Jenkins'ing in massed hordes towards what ever they don't like. Alliance doctrine, is more like Mohamed Ali's Rope-A-Dope tactic, of stringing out an opponent until they are exhausted, before going for the knockout.

[@WhenGoatsWentBaa]

I agree with the giant hand thing. The first scene where you see a Reaper descending on the marines in ME1, it looks like a titanic hand reaching down from the sky

[@EpicSOB_]

WTF, A RECOMMENDATION ON RELEASE! I'M ACTUALLY EARLY?!

[@Hierachy]

There are actual differences between the Alliance ships, if you really give them a look. they just have a very strong visual look to them. I just see it as like every tracked armored vehicle we have on the planet, to an alien they probably all look the same, but if you look at it a little closer, you'll see the differences.

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

But atleast , the designs should differ alot , like being thicker or thinner , longer , flater , or with modules , or gun emplacements should differ , a cruiser ,destroyer , frigate would need turrets for their fast Maneuverable flexibility, a dreadnought would just sit and spit deathfire , a carrier has open hangers , Armor plating and thickness should add to the ships bulkiness too , not a upsized downsized picture

[@Hierachy]

@@sumukhvmrsat6347 in reality we have only seen 2 pure alliance ships, a dreadnought and cruiser. you have the Normandy, but she is a blend between the alliance and turians. the dreadnought has a different 'nose' section and is visually longer/stretched forward. there are 2 cruiser models, One called the Berlin class, the other is called the Geneva Class. they both have 2 modules, one on each of the 'Shoulders' and the ship has an exposed gun on the bow. Differences are in the 'nose' shape, One is from mass effect 1, the other is from mass effect 3. forgot which is which. The only real difference is one is the older cruiser being replaced by the other. They had to come up with a reason for the differences because us sci-fi nerds would notice. there are meant to be frigates and destroyers, but we havent seen them at all. hopefully we see some more in the new ME game!

[@jibarogriffin7284]

Glad you're better. Happy to see a new upload. Would have loved to have seen the original, but I'll take content when I get it.

[@IAmTheAce5]

12:55 my only regret for the Mass effect universe is that the starships were so nearly copy/paste per race. Trying to figure out the diversity of spaceship configurations to match the diversity of in-universe fluff-text of roles and classes was a doozy.

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

Yeah , so much potential yet so less creativity

[@addisonwelsh]

I've seen a few people who create original designs for ME ships, though I'm pretty sure KZbin will block it if I try to send you a link... that, and I lost all my links.

[@RomLoneWolf23]

Well, can't blame the game devs for taking shortcuts when they had so many ships to make for fleet scenes.

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

@@RomLoneWolf23 Yeah can't blame them for the shortcut , but they can't blame any other fact for less fanbase and shipgeeks popularity for the game

[@CharliMorganMusic]

This is for Steve's lunch.

[@vi6ddarkking]

I honestly would love a 4X game set after the Bad Destroy Ending of Mass Effect 3. With the galaxy in absolute tarters and now is everyone for themselves as the old and new empires rebuild after the end of the Reapers.

[@Drave_Jr.]

By far the most interesting system will be Sol, since at least 80% of Naval Assets are there. Will there be a big bloody fight for their peoples or is the New Citadel Council is established?

[@addisonwelsh]

That wouldn't be possible, because the Mass Relays are destroyed in the Bad Destroy ending. It's gonna be a few thousand years before anyone starts doing any empire building.

[@vi6ddarkking]

@@addisonwelsh Didn't you watch the Video? Mass Effect Ships are perfectly able to go FTL without a Mass Relay. It's just nowhere near as efficient and it has the static build up problem. But you'd be perfectly able to build an interstellar empire. It'll just be more concentrated and the various races won't have the luxury of being picky when it comes to their colonies. So plenty of Domes on every rock with the bare minimum of gravity.

[@addisonwelsh]

@@vi6ddarkking It's not just inefficient, it's slow. Non-relay FTL maxes out at fifteen lightyears per day. You're not going to be crossing the galaxy in a timely manner at that speed. Also, pretty much every planet was either under siege or occupied by the Reapers at this point. Their industry and infrastructure was in ruins. Combine that with the fact that some planets were likely reliant on resources being shipped from other worlds, and you're looking at a scenario where a few millions across the galaxy don't have access to the basic necessities of life. Some newer colonies are just outright going to starve. So again, we're not gonna be seeing any empire building for a long time.

[@vi6ddarkking]

@@addisonwelsh You truly have no concept of distance in Space. There are at least 65 stars under fifteen light years from Earth. And over a million with in a thousand light years. That's two and a half months distance, if you account for the time needed for static discharge at a planet's atmosphere. During the era of discovery we had empires running with travel and information lags greater than that. So yes it's a slow restart as everyone began rebuilding, but FTL speed isn't a problem.

[@EpicSOB_]

Please make a video about the military structure of the Alliance and possibly the other races

[@-TakingSomeLs]

MASS EFFECT CONTENT LETS GOOOOO

[@Reaper_03-01]

The music from FTL is a nice touch and very appreciated. Also, please do the video on the ranks of the Systems Alliance.

[@Bonzeggva]

Hooray, we’re getting into Mass Effect lore!

[@jacobgreer312]

Mako is awesome hands down

[@pappicusrex1238]

I've said it more than once... The only way that humans as a race will form up as a race is if there is some sort of external threat... Like aliens. Thank you Taurians for helping us get along!

[@wheelcha1rman2]

Fuck the Batarians, the Elcor are alright by me though. The Elcor diplomat in ME1 was chill.

[@davidbryant4664]

That Batarian insult was DIABOLIC!

[@johnclark3531]

A pretty good coverage of the alliance.

[@domenicoazzia4153]

You should do a video on the Citadel Council and its member races and their utter incompetence!

[@sakisaotome6753]

""Look. If you're fighting a bear, and the only way for you to survive is to sic your dog on it and run, you'll do it. As much as you love your dog, it isn't human." -Prophetess Ashley Williams

[@alpreston8209]

The System Alliance's first steps onto the galatic stage sounds almost exactly like Earth Force and Babylon 5

[@dspserpico]

Kinda. The Centauri “uplifted” humanity on a mistaken belief that Earth was the location a legendary lost colony. Earth curbstopmed the Dilgar, but as a part of a multi-species coalition. The first contact war with the Minbari almost ended with humanity’s extinction, but didn’t because plot reasons. Mass Effect is basically Mirror Universe Babylon 5. The Earth Alliance survived because of good will, diplomacy, and plot armor. The Systems Alliance survived because of they walk around carrying a big stick.

[@ryank5424]

Damn. I don't really like the batarians either but I still didn't want to drop that mass relay on them 😆 and I least tried to warn the colony. As usual enjoyed this video

[@zeehero7280]

Batarians suck because they were just crybabies when the council told them slavery is not allowed and then blamed humans for it.

[@th3kyuubimast3r68]

Idk if it's been said but went on a binge of the battletech Playlist and you have the viper video saved in it

[@sakisaotome6753]

despite how crazy things went on Torfan, the battle that likely kept the councilors up at night was the Skyllian Blitz. one of the major reasons that the council gave us all that favoritism isn't because of how we had so many ships. the council considered humanity a sleeping giant not because of the size of it's military but the size of it's civilian population. Humanity has the largest population of any race in the galaxy. 11 billion on earth alone with a large number of colonies both in and outside of citadel space. more over we likely spread into the colonies and planets of the other races. and while we have a rather large military force (though not at large as the turians) only 3% of the human population actively serve in the alliance miliatary. During the Blitz, we did the thing that the council had feared about us from almost day one. when we were attacked our civilians picked up guns and defended Elysium with their lives. they didn't fear our 330 million soldiers the feared what we might do with the remaining 10.7 billion potential soldiers we have that could potentially be activated at a moments notice.

[@DavidRichardson153]

Hey, the Mako excelled in achieving this: it made the ME Milky Way _feel_ big without having to make the ME Milky Way actually _be_ big.

[@The--Illusion]

Pls do the Andromeda Initiative as well. I know not alot of people liked ME:A, but I am not one of those. I really liked that game. Wished they would have stuck with it. And yes, there is ALOT of lore hidden around. Enough to put into a 40 minute video.

[@HunterDrone]

to be fair, he's not wrong. the alliance only has four hull layouts...

[@davidlivingston9169]

Where did you find all these Mass Effect pictures of Alliance Vessels????

[@o.k.productions5202]

The alliance hands out the biggest bags of freedom, they give you freedom whether you want it or not. Also as a console gamer I unironically love the Mako, I find it’s chaos fun.

[@CaptainSovereign]

Don't have backstory... Should we tell him?

[@Simoncressey99]

If you want to know more about the setting up of Cerberus and the elusive man. Read the novels by Drew Karpyshyn. There very good

[@valueunknown2153]

19:19 Nice Robbie Williams reference 👌

[@kongilian]

Now you've got me wanting to play more Stellaris. Thanks.

[@soccerandtrack10]

4:05 this is why to watch the video other then intersting/don't remember the story stuff fully now either apparently.

[@drewgilbertson]

Citadel: Humans are thugs, but at least they are our thugs.

[@corywilliams2255]

For the sake of accuracy, the phrase "Possession is nine-tenths the law" actually means that if you are caught in possession of something that does not belong to you, that is 90 percent of the case AGAINST you. So many people use that phrase without understanding what it truly means. lol

[@ZandarRatesGames]

Just wanted to let you know, the Illusive man does have a Backstory! It's only in the comics though so hard to track down.

[@soumyajyotimukherjee4752]

My favourite human faction. Not tyrants or xenophobes like UNSC or Warhammer 40's Imperium and so cool

[@jstalk1]

It's been awhile since I've dives into ME lore but if I recall correctly, the Council was less scared of the Alliance Navy and more afraid of its potential. I have a vague recollection of codex entry labeling the Alliance as a "sleeping giant" because it's a volunteer fighting force and only about 3% of humans volunteer. End result is probably the same but I felt like noting that.

[@sakisaotome6753]

arcturus is big and important enough that multiple fleets call it home (fleets 1, 3, and 5.) the 63rd scout flotilla is a frigate flotilla that makes up the 5th fleet. it is commanded by the read admiral mikhailovich the admiral that insists on inspecting your ship in me1.

[@Ju66alo4Life]

If you can't drive the Mako, then you simply just can't drive lol😂😂😂

[@merrick1588]

Batarians are basically Space Iran ... and are about as sucessfull

[@addisonwelsh]

I always preferred to compare them to North Korea.

[@merrick1588]

@@addisonwelsh It's the funding of terrorism that that makes me pick Iran

[@Zirodays]

​@@addisonwelsh Well Batarians fund terrorists and crime lords all over the galaxy so in that sense they're like Iran. However after they got their asses kicked they isolated themselves and bombarded their population with propaganda so in that sense they're like north Korea.

[@ilias856]

Well the batarians aren't going anywhere, but Iran definitely is.

[@Zirodays]

@@merrick1588 it looks like youtube got rid of my comment As I was saying in terms of Noth Korea the batarians isolated themselves and push propaganda onto their population however like Iran the batarians fund pirates and terrorists.

[@Jake9066]

Specifically, the very beginning of ME1, Sovereign definitely looked like a giant hand coming down from the sky in the video

[@coreystockdale6287]

Carriers go boom baby

[@snideaugustine2143]

Now we need a full vid on Cerberus and the Illusive Man. Please. 🫡

[@harbofdoom]

Wow I never thought I would see a Fat Electrician reference here 😂

[@dspserpico]

Mass Effect: Babylon 5, but the Mirror Universe version. Humanity got shafted in the Mass Effect equivalent of the Washington Naval Treaty. So they just went IJN. Even the doctrine is similar to Kantai Kessen. Attrit the enemy to the point where you will win the decisive battle, then do the decisive battle.

[@saqwana25]

The naval treaty was actually created after the krogan rebellions if I recall. Humanity was added to it after the 🥇 rat contact war.

[@windwind3170]

Tell your friend to wait until ME2 and its Hammerhead sections then we'll hear how he sings.

[@basara7]

There is a back story for the illusive man, just not in the games, the Mass Effect comics that Dark Horse did gave a backstory for him I believe.

[@abandonallhope7646]

*batarians try to bully humanity like they did others* Humanity: hippity hoppity, get off my property

[@CatholicDragoon]

8:55 It's literally a NATO and Russia situation It's literally a NATO and Serbia situation It's literally a Saudi-US and Houthis situation It's literally an Israel and Syria, Iran, HAMAS, Hezbollah situation ...I could keep going but I'll leave those for others in the comments.

[@sakisaotome6753]

the other races may have started using carriers but only AFTER the alliance introduces them them to the galaxy. the carrier is a uniquely human invention ... kinda like medigel. but as others have said the Treaty of Faraxin wasn't imposed on the humans by the Turians. It has been the law of the land for over a thousand years when the Turians joined the citadel council after defeating the Krogan. the treaty essentially establishes the 5:3:1 ratio of dreadnoughts between the Turians: Council races: non-council races. this shifts the burden of defense on the turians from the other council races and ensures that no other non-council race like the krogan can attempt to take over the galaxy like the krogan did.

[@lionheartx-ray4135]

In a weird way I love the Mako do to it broken physics.

[@TheEyered]

Some FTL jams

[@whyjnot420]

As a whole, the fan made speculative art of post-3 ships for Mass Effect (especially Systems Alliance ships) have really stood out to me. I've seen this done with countless settings but its generally forgettable even if competent imo.

[@cpob2013]

I prefer the mass effect alliance origin than the star trek federation origin. We built our own future rather than nuking ourselves to oblivion and getting uplifted by aliens.

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

Yeah , even if we got nuked to oblivion and uplifted by aliens , we gonna nuke someone else sooner than going peaceful

[@Alzir-n9m]

Unfortunately the latter is far more realistic with the way our modern world is going.

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

@@Alzir-n9m🤣🎉 ,United Earth is the only Way to Stepping into space and also not nuking ourselves

[@Alzir-n9m]

@@sumukhvmrsat6347 Oh I agree.. The issue is when it its going to happen, if ever.

[@23GreyFox]

It took me a while to get that the video is about Mass Effect. Never played the series.

[@evanperes7382]

Gotta get that steve mass effect ship design rant

[@frosteyknight]

of curse we want to talk about the 14 ranks of officers.... we are that kind of turbo nerd

[@wartang]

the maco, you either love it or hate it. Me It's great.

[@Tsunamiatunzen1]

Still not sure about fighters in space due to how they're all moving through the same medium. Although I guess eggshells with hammers might apply here.

[@cp1cupcake]

I think the reason they are supposed to work in ME is because the main guns are in fixed positions facing forward because of how big they are. This means that PD are a lot weaker letting the fighters be able to outmanuever the larger ships.

[@heathmorris6100]

11:39 Never played mass effect but these cerberus guys seem pretty reasonable

[@Troollls]

The mojahadeen were pretty reasonable in the beginning to

[@ilias856]

​@@TroolllsOh yea they were the "good guys" because they were trained and funded by the Americans.

[@Troollls]

@ilias856 I mean the soviets ran baby's over with tanks

[@ilias856]

@@Troollls Well I'll just assume that's what the Americans actually did, because they fucking love projecting their garbage to other countries.

[@thewonderingwolf6509]

The first contact war was 26 years before the start of the first game ME1

[@FluffyBoi_Carolus]

28:52 The Alliance Fifth Fleet was the fleet partaking in The Battle of The Citadel Edit: Shoulda continued watching a bit, oops

[@emilysmite9356]

In the friend's defense, they are all the same ship :]

[@valor1omega]

What are you talking about, The illusive man does have a backstory. And the unalived a good man because he was digging into what happened to his missing men.

[@Hartzilla2007]

The Mako does seem to drive a little better with a controller.

[@IAmTheAce5]

15:43 is this the basis for all the the AI generated HFY vids I get now?

[@tednelson1254]

I love you.

[@ThatSlowTypingGuy]

Mako Team Reporting!

[@derekburge5294]

To quote another youtuber, Ashley was right about *everything.*

[@stephenm3667]

Governments are good at talking about things when they should be doing and doing when they should be talking.

[@justiron2999]

Ok but what about a super mega dreadnought that carries dreadnoughts.

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

You mean shipyards 😂🎉 ,(I'm joking , ) you mean battle moons?

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

Why should Super mega dreadnought carry other dreadnought, like a Starfighter needs carrying because , they don't have jump \ warp drives or long time fuel and weapons , they just go brrr and come back reload refuel and go brr again , dreadnought don't need another dreadnought to carrythem , unless they are a shipyard or dockyard or repairship It's like , a bigasse man carrying another big asse man , Only reason could be as a transport like how a Amphibious assault ship carrier tanks , there should be a good reason for a dreadnought to carry another dreadnought ,

[@valor1omega]

However being more advanced at the time the lizard birds also had more military could have wiped out humanity in the end had the other two factions not get involved to stop the war.

[@gwyn5144]

Hey. Iv noticed you've not talked about the Phoenix Hawk. Dew it